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Joan in GB-W  
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 More options Aug 28, 9:24 am
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From: "Joan in GB-W" <jjkr...@aol.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 18:24:39 -0500
Local: Thurs, Aug 28 2008 9:24 am
Subject: OT: male equivalent of bitch
What is the male equivalent of bitch?  It has to be an insulting word as
bitch is.  It can't be something as innocuous as assertive or aggressive, or
can it.

John McCain had no trouble laughing when he was asked the question at a
rally . . . How do we beat the bitch.  He laughed.  He laughed!  And I
imagine many of the women, if not all in the crowd, laughed along with him.
When women accept the use of bitch so easily it becomes the word of choice
for aggressive or assertive women, or simply any woman you disagree with.  I
would propose a ban on the word, but what would I then call Ann Coulter?

Joan


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David Johnston  
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From: David Johnston <da...@block.net>
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 23:53:06 GMT
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Subject: Re: OT: male equivalent of bitch
On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 18:24:39 -0500, "Joan in GB-W" <jjkr...@aol.com>
wrote:

>What is the male equivalent of bitch?

Bastard.  At one time calling a man a dog was an insult as well, but
that day is past.  Two many men adopted it as a compliment.  

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Francis A. Miniter  
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From: "Francis A. Miniter" <famini...@comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:57:11 -0400
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Subject: Re: OT: male equivalent of bitch

Joan in GB-W wrote:
> What is the male equivalent of bitch?  It has to be an insulting word as
> bitch is.  It can't be something as innocuous as assertive or
> aggressive, or can it.

> John McCain had no trouble laughing when he was asked the question at a
> rally . . . How do we beat the bitch.  He laughed.  He laughed!  And I
> imagine many of the women, if not all in the crowd, laughed along with
> him. When women accept the use of bitch so easily it becomes the word of
> choice for aggressive or assertive women, or simply any woman you
> disagree with.  I would propose a ban on the word, but what would I then
> call Ann Coulter?

> Joan

Before the recent intensification of the use of the word
Bitch, I had always thought that Bastard was the male
equivalent.  But Bitch has taken on a new set of
connotations (or several sets of them) in the last five or
ten years.  And I agree with you that it is galloping
alongside Strident as a way of denigrating women.

As to what to do, first I think that it should be recognized
that overuse of the word reflects a paucity of language
skills by its users.  It is up to those of us with such
skills to find more interesting and varied descriptions to
meet our occulter needs, maybe courtesan of the conservative
coven,  My mind jumps to that wonderful monologue in Act 1
of Cyrano de Bergerac where he skewers his opponent for his
lack of linguistic imagination.  (I always liked the Jose
Ferrer version best.)

Cheers,

Francis A. Miniter


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Janet  
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From: "Janet" <boxh...@maine.rr.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:18:22 -0400
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Subject: Re: male equivalent of bitch

"Joan in GB-W" <jjkr...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> What is the male equivalent of bitch?  It has to be an insulting word as
> bitch is.  It can't be something as innocuous as assertive or aggressive,
> or can it.

> John McCain had no trouble laughing when he was asked the question at a
> rally . . . How do we beat the bitch.  He laughed.  He laughed!  And I
> imagine many of the women, if not all in the crowd, laughed along with
> him. When women accept the use of bitch so easily it becomes the word of
> choice for aggressive or assertive women, or simply any woman you disagree
> with.  I would propose a ban on the word, but what would I then call Ann
> Coulter?

> Joan

I would suggest prick.

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Francis A. Miniter  
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From: "Francis A. Miniter" <famini...@comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:24:40 -0400
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Subject: Re: male equivalent of bitch

Ouch.

FAM


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Discussion subject changed to "OT: male equivalent of bitch" by Dorothy J Heydt
Dorothy J Heydt  
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From: djhe...@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 00:24:22 GMT
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Subject: Re: OT: male equivalent of bitch
In article <6hm622Fmq88...@mid.individual.net>,
Joan in GB-W <jjkr...@aol.com> wrote:

>What is the male equivalent of bitch?  It has to be an insulting word as
>bitch is.  It can't be something as innocuous as assertive or aggressive, or
>can it.

Bastard, usually.  Including the sometimes use of "bitch" to mean
"female bastard."

Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
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Janet  
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 More options Aug 28, 10:32 am
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From: "Janet" <boxh...@maine.rr.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:32:26 -0400
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Subject: Re: male equivalent of bitch

"Francis A. Miniter" <famini...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:A7-dnawSUt3NbSjVnZ2dnUVZ_oWdnZ2d@comcast.com...

I guess that means it works? Not that I would ever describe you in such a
way, of course! <G>

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Wes Struebing  
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From: Wes Struebing <str...@carpedementem.org>
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:14:36 -0600
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Subject: Re: male equivalent of bitch
On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:18:22 -0400, "Janet" <boxh...@maine.rr.com>
wrote:

Prolly not strong enough, Janet.

SOB (sorry about the association) is close...
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From: Larisa <purple_bov...@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 21:13:44 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: OT: male equivalent of bitch
On Aug 27, 6:24 pm, "Joan in GB-W" <jjkr...@aol.com> wrote:

> What is the male equivalent of bitch?  It has to be an insulting word as
> bitch is.  It can't be something as innocuous as assertive or aggressive, or
> can it.

> John McCain had no trouble laughing when he was asked the question at a
> rally . . . How do we beat the bitch.  He laughed.  He laughed!  And I
> imagine many of the women, if not all in the crowd, laughed along with him.
> When women accept the use of bitch so easily it becomes the word of choice
> for aggressive or assertive women, or simply any woman you disagree with.  I
> would propose a ban on the word, but what would I then call Ann Coulter?

> Joan

I'd say that "bastard" is the equivalent, and I will further note that
I am sick and tired of the word "strident" applied to Hillary by
fellow Democrats.

LM


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Pogonip  
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From: Pogonip <nobo...@nowhere.org>
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 21:30:02 -0700
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Subject: Re: OT: male equivalent of bitch

Joan in GB-W wrote:
> What is the male equivalent of bitch?  It has to be an insulting word as
> bitch is.  It can't be something as innocuous as assertive or
> aggressive, or can it.

> John McCain had no trouble laughing when he was asked the question at a
> rally . . . How do we beat the bitch.  He laughed.  He laughed!  And I
> imagine many of the women, if not all in the crowd, laughed along with
> him. When women accept the use of bitch so easily it becomes the word of
> choice for aggressive or assertive women, or simply any woman you
> disagree with.  I would propose a ban on the word, but what would I then
> call Ann Coulter?

> Joan

Ann Coulter is a woman????   Who knew?
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From: Pogonip <nobo...@nowhere.org>
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 21:34:49 -0700
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Subject: Re: male equivalent of bitch

Agreed.
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