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Subject: Re: use in court?
From: mark <mkbr...@mitre.org>
To: rationale <rationale@googlegroups.com>

Sorry Tim, no pointers to judges.

A related question is =93Have lawyers used Rationale to prepare a
case?=94  If yes, then how is it used?  If no, then why not?  If
Rationale is useful for lawyers, you might think they=92d use it.  On
the other hand, the same can be said of intelligence analysts.  A
question for this group: What obstacles have you found to using
Rationale outside the classroom?

I=92ve asked three attorney friends =96 educated at top law schools in th
U.S., two are litigators =96 how they organize and make sense of their
cases/arguments.  Specifically, I asked whether they create any type
of argument hierarchy, i.e., hierarchy of supporting/refuting claims
and evidence.  They basically answered =91no=92.  They informally identify
major issues in the case in their heads or on paper.  They sometimes
organize evidence by type, or group evidence by some legal issue in
the case; often on paper, rarely using a computer.

[Note: someone please cross-post to argu...@yahoogroups.com]

On Apr 28, 7:45=A0am, Tim van Gelder Austhink <t...@austhink.com> wrote:
> I was asked "Have any judges in Australia (or anywhere else) ever accepte=
d
> the use of *Rationale* by trial or appellate counsel to sketch an argumen=
t
> about the evidence in a case?"
>
> I know one judge has at least threatened to require Rationale
> use<http://www.scribd.com/doc/309694/US-Department-of-Justice-Court-Proce=
...>but
> do not recall hearing of any examples of this actually happening.
>
> Any pointers?
>
> - Tim v.G.
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