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Hello Anna,

Your response makes me curious. When do you consider a map to be 
'ridiculously large'?

I am interested because, like Fearless, I use Rationale and other 
mapping tools mainly to prepare document structures. My maps easily 
get large.  I have had several software tools slow down or simply 
give up when dealing with them.
Another application where this happens is in note-taking: a two hour 
meeting generates about 500 nodes. Is that large?

And to Fearless S.: How large (in numbers) are your students' maps?

Sincerely,

Malik de Kok

De denkwerkplaat
tools for thinkers


At 06:41 10-3-2009, you wrote:

>Hi there,
>
>Thanks for your message. About the performance problems, we are aware
>that with ridiculously large maps it can slow down, and have tried to
>improve performance as best we can. It's still on our developers'
>list, and they will look into it again the first chance they get.
>
>It is possible that you're running an older version which doesn't
>include all the performance improvements we have recently made. If
>this is the case, you might want to consider upgrading to Rationale 2
>- we offer discounts for existing owners of Rationale.
>
>All the best,
>Anna
>
>On Mar 7, 4:31 pm, Fearless Speech <marioivanlo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Rationale creators,
> >
> > I have a question/suggestion in regards to the use of Rationale. I
> > really love this product, but would like to know if you could possibly
> > improve the performance of the software when using lots of materials
> > in maps.
> >
> > Some of my students have used the essay planning template for creating
> > some very marvellous essay structures. However, the downside of this
> > is that the software really slows down when there is a lot in there.
> > Have others had this problem?
> >
> > I don't recommend my students to use it for full on essays (I ask them
> > to keep to broad themes and materials supporting them), but as some of
> > them need to show me arguments in detail so I have trouble going
> > through materials due to the processor taking so long to churn it
> > along.
> >
> > BTW, I have a top range Toshiba Dynabook and do not have this problem
> > with other applications (or even when I have various open at the same
> > time).
> >
> > I very much like this software and at my University we now use it to
> > teach around 100 students. It is great and really helps cut down time
> > in checking students maps before they start to work on their essays in
> > complete form.
> >
> > Any comments on this?
>
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Hello Anna,<br><br>
Your response makes me curious. When do you consider a map to be
'ridiculously large'? <br><br>
I am interested because, like Fearless, I use Rationale and other mapping
tools mainly to prepare document structures. My maps easily get
large.&nbsp; I have had several software tools slow down or simply give
up when dealing with them. <br>
Another application where this happens is in note-taking: a two hour
meeting generates about 500 nodes. Is that large?<br><br>
And to Fearless S.: How large (in numbers) are your students'
maps?<br><br>
Sincerely,<br><br>
Malik de Kok<br><br>
De denkwerkplaat<br>
<i>tools for thinkers<br><br>
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</i>At 06:41 10-3-2009, you wrote:<br><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Hi there,<br><br>
Thanks for your message. About the performance problems, we are
aware<br>
that with ridiculously large maps it can slow down, and have tried
to<br>
improve performance as best we can. It's still on our developers'<br>
list, and they will look into it again the first chance they
get.<br><br>
It is possible that you're running an older version which doesn't<br>
include all the performance improvements we have recently made. If<br>
this is the case, you might want to consider upgrading to Rationale
2<br>
- we offer discounts for existing owners of Rationale.<br><br>
All the best,<br>
Anna<br><br>
On Mar 7, 4:31 pm, Fearless Speech &lt;marioivanlo...@gmail.com&gt;
wrote:<br>
&gt; Hi Rationale creators,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I have a question/suggestion in regards to the use of Rationale.
I<br>
&gt; really love this product, but would like to know if you could
possibly<br>
&gt; improve the performance of the software when using lots of
materials<br>
&gt; in maps.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Some of my students have used the essay planning template for
creating<br>
&gt; some very marvellous essay structures. However, the downside of
this<br>
&gt; is that the software really slows down when there is a lot in
there.<br>
&gt; Have others had this problem?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I don't recommend my students to use it for full on essays (I ask
them<br>
&gt; to keep to broad themes and materials supporting them), but as some
of<br>
&gt; them need to show me arguments in detail so I have trouble
going<br>
&gt; through materials due to the processor taking so long to churn
it<br>
&gt; along.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; BTW, I have a top range Toshiba Dynabook and do not have this
problem<br>
&gt; with other applications (or even when I have various open at the
same<br>
&gt; time).<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I very much like this software and at my University we now use it
to<br>
&gt; teach around 100 students. It is great and really helps cut down
time<br>
&gt; in checking students maps before they start to work on their essays
in<br>
&gt; complete form.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Any comments on this?<br>
bubbl.us, toch niet het ideale schrijfgereedschap - Zie
<a href="http://www.mindmapblog.nl/" eudora="autourl">
www.mindmapblog.nl</a> <br>
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