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EHWollmann  
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 More options Oct 15, 1:36 am
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From: EHWollmann <arcturian...@earthlink.net>
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 08:36:27 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Oct 15 2009 1:36 am
Subject: Re: Admins that will be served subpoenas
On Oct 13, 10:05 pm, The Chief Instigator <patr...@io.com> wrote:

You mean like Ken Kizer?

http://www.amazon.com/Rebirthing-Life-Astrology-Emtional-Healing/dp/0...

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From: "Der Kommisar" <derkommi...@berlin.de>
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:20:17 +0200
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Subject: Re: Admins that will be served subpoenas
In article <4AD549F0.1...@earthlink.net>

Every time you take one down, it pops up somewhere else.

http://tinypic.com/r/4k6xit/4


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Chris  
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 More options Oct 15, 6:13 am
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From: "Chris" <a...@grevillec.freeserve.co.ukNOSPAM>
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 21:13:39 +0100
Local: Thurs, Oct 15 2009 6:13 am
Subject: Re: Admins that will be served subpoenas
"Chris Krolczyk" <arfiend2...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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On Oct 10, 4:12 pm, chris <chrishask...@myguide.net> wrote:

> On 10 Oct, 18:50, Chris Krolczyk <arfiend2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > As dumb as Spamford was, he's not that dumb.

>> Spamford was before my time, I'm talking about Jamie aka Spamtard.
>Meh. Like kooks, sometimes you can't tell the spammers
>without a scorecard.

Very true.

>What's really strange here is that he
>only happened to think of this strategy
>nearly 11 years after the DMCA was passed
>by the Senate. As laughable as his tactic
>is, it's incredibly late.

It only took Mr. Baillie 2 years or so to realise that you can't copyright a
usenet post, maybe it has taken Mr. Willmeen 11 years to realise that this
was a chance to try and make some money at last.
I wonder how many years it will take Mr Woolman to discover that you can't.

Gives two short planks a bad name.

>1999 is a loooooong time ago, even for
>Usenet. And he wasn't even using the
>DMCA as a fig leaf back then even though
>he could have.

That is an image I could do without!

>My theory is that he's been talking to
>a lawyer. Just a very, very incomptent one.

Possibly one of about the same quality as Mark Felstein of Emarketers of
America fame. He suddenly realised that discovery worked both ways, and
backed out at a great rate of knots.

Chris the Sock
(C)2009


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Chris Krolczyk  
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From: Chris Krolczyk <arfiend2...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:41:35 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Oct 16 2009 10:41 am
Subject: Re: Admins that will be served subpoenas
On Oct 13, 10:48 pm, Edmond Wollmann <arcturian...@earthlink.net>
wrote:

Big deal. You don't think they're talking to lawyers
about whether you actually have a case or not?

What if those pages you *claim* are coming down
go back up? What happens to your B1G W1N then?

> > > Very strange

> > What's really strange here is that he
> > only happened to think of this strategy
> > nearly 11 years after the DMCA was passed
> > by the Senate. As laughable as his tactic
> > is, it's incredibly late.

> Its never too late to claim copyright infringement,

My, but that's a telling way of phrasing it;
why, it almost seems as if you intend to
threaten to *claim* copyright infringement
instead of actually bothering to try to
*prove* it in court!

Out of the mouth of overgrown fetuses...

> especially when the
> damages mount and can be used for further legal action for that.

What "damages"? Has anybody actually attempted
to pirate any of your garbage in the hopes of
actually making a profit off of some rube who
happens to read it?

I dare you to name one work of yours
that was actually pirated, jackass.
And BTW, posts or web site material
that you *chose* to make public
doesn't meet that standard.

> Nobody
> ever paid attention to the idiot's page,

Wrong again. The first time I
looked at it was to see whether
or not you really were as much
of a raving control freak as
your then-current posts made
you out to be.

You were, and are.

You've been like this for a
very long time, Edmo. Some people
might get tired of being seen as
a total sack of shit by practically
everyone he interacts with, but
not you.

> but some people took it as
> authoritative rather than just a vindictive assholes vengence website
> recently, so now I will make it part of my legal case.

Steve Burnett quotes you quite directly, you dolt.
You don't get much more authoritative than that.

> > My theory is that he's been talking to
> > a lawyer. Just a very, very incomptent one.

> That's why you should consult someone with a brain before you actually
> try to theorize anything so far above your capacity and hurt yourself.

I can't wait for the whining to start when
you wet the bed on this, Wollkook. It'll be
just as much fun as reading your pathetic
attempts to intimidate Scott Doty back in
the day.

http://www.sonic.net/scott/sheesh/ed.txt

Oh, and just for posterity's sake:

http://www.smbtech.com/ed/
http://www.smbtech.com/ed/
http://www.smbtech.com/ed/
http://www.smbtech.com/ed/
http://www.smbtech.com/ed/

-Chris Krolczyk


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From: Cujo DeSockpuppet <c...@petitmorte.net>
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 02:40:32 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Fri, Oct 16 2009 12:40 pm
Subject: Re: Admins that will be served subpoenas
Chris Krolczyk <arfiend2...@gmail.com> wrote in
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You misspelled "whine".

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 More options Oct 16, 5:24 pm
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From: "Chris" <a...@grevillec.freeserve.co.ukNOSPAM>
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 08:24:25 +0100
Local: Fri, Oct 16 2009 5:24 pm
Subject: Re: Admins that will be served subpoenas
"Chris Krolczyk" <arfiend2...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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A very wise precaution on their part.

> I really don't think most ISPs are capable of being intimidated
> into censoring websites merely because some pompous dumbass
> with a proven track record of engaging in similar nonsense
> *tells* them to. If they did, they're as gutless as you are
> stupid.

After looking at sites such as Google archives and
http://www.smbtech.com/ed/ , they then reinstate. After they have stopped
laughing, that is.

<snip>

> Equally interesting is the fact that you've used
> Usenet in particular and the internet in general
> as a method of disseminating your screed, and as
> soon as someone refuses to lick your ass for it
> you start crying about *claiming* copyright
> and not trying to *prove* it in a court of law.

Perhaps Mr. Woolyman should get an office with a consulting room. I was
mildly suprised to see that they actually have existed.
See this picture taken in Washington DC in 1921.
http://www.shorpy.com/node/6994?size=_original. A large image, but look at
the last door on the right.
If you have a spare hour or day, the pictures are of stunning quality given
their ages.

> You do realize how that paragraph makes you look,
> don't you? How about your other actions during
> this escapade of yours? By the time you're done,
> there won't be a single damn ISP that *won't*
> be mirroring the smbtech material in order to
> bait you.

Me wonders how many already have company notice boards with a comic
cartooney corner.

I approve of this poasting

>> > My theory is that he's been talking to
>> > a lawyer. Just a very, very incomptent one.

>> That's why you should consult someone with a brain before you actually
>> try to theorize anything so far above your capacity and hurt yourself.

> Translation: "waaaaaaaaah! Chris doesn't play fair! He actually
> punches
> you *back* when you bully other kids in the sandbox! MOOOOOMMY!"

 At last someone recognises my true worth. :-)

> FOAD, Wollkook.

Now, now Chris, a much better reply would be "I refer you to the reply given
in Arkell vs. Pressdram"
Third para at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_Eye#Litigation
Case law can be amusing occasionally.

Not Chris


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Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 16:20:04 -0700
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Subject: Re: Admins that will be served subpoenas

Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha!!
If their DMCA lawyers have to research what to do with a valid DMCA,
they are in real trouble.
--
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Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 09:32:46 -0500
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Subject: Re: Admins that will be served subpoenas

    Except everyone reading saw your DMCA, no one sees it as valid.

--
.

Well, it was important enough for several folks to
comment on. Fortunately, they were not burdened
by Microsoft shitware which fails to properly
implement a decade-old standard.     -    Sam


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From: Edmond Wollmann <arcturian...@earthlink.net>
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 15:57:43 -0700
Local: Wed, Oct 21 2009 8:57 am
Subject: Re: Admins that will be served subpoenas

Right, I guess you all are smarter than the DMCA lawyers doing the
researching, better go tell them whether it is or not Windbag!
--
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From: Chris Krolczyk <arfiend2...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:50:52 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Oct 21 2009 9:50 am
Subject: Re: Admins that will be served subpoenas
On Oct 19, 6:20 pm, Edmond Wollmann <arcturian...@earthlink.net>
wrote:

Mind your manners, fucktard. I don't
believe I gave you permission to speak
on subjects you know nothing about, such
as what they're doing with your "DMCAs".

And just for the sake of being accurate,
Edmo, you're making a *complaint* to
those ISPS about the DMCA, *not*
producing a "DMCA" itself. That's the
name of the law, not the actual legal
document required to file a complaint
under it. Your screed would be much more
entertaining if it actually could be read
by who's actually graduated from grammar school.

Anyway, back to the original quote:

>If their DMCA lawyers have to research what to do with a valid DMCA,
>they are in real trouble.

Steve Burnett's lawyer did exactly that, Edmo. The
fact that other lawyers for ISPs may be researching
local and international legal precedents concerning
copyright law and may have had their clients take
down their links to your crap as a *precaution*
doesn't take away from the fact that *any other ISP*
can do the same thing and just might not give a
shit about your flaccid little threats.

Oh, and have fun with xs4all with particular. Other
than the fact that they're not in the US, I believe
they've tanged with the Cult of Sc**nt*l*g* and won.
That being the case, have a nice life.

-Chris Krolczyk


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Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 21:36:23 -0500
Local: Wed, Oct 21 2009 12:36 pm
Subject: Re: Admins that will be served subpoenas

    Actually, I don't care, I don't have a dog in this hunt. But your
desire to plaster it all over Usenet has the world watching and waiting.
  And I'll remind you that I am probably the only person in this group
that has yet to call you any names, so watch your step pantyhead.

--

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'open-carry' rather than "OC" This is avoid confusion
with Oleoresin Capsicum, a Latin term meaning 'Give me
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Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 13:06:34 +0200
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Subject: Re: Admins that will be served subpoenas

>>>> If their DMCA lawyers have to research what to do with a valid DMCA,
>>>> they are in real trouble.
>>>     Except everyone reading saw your DMCA, no one sees it as valid.

>> Right, I guess you all are smarter than the DMCA lawyers doing the
>> researching, better go tell them whether it is or not Windbag!

>     Actually, I don't care,

Windbag really said it! Doesn't care, but won't ever shut up, nevertheless!
lol

> I don't have a dog in this hunt. But your
> desire to plaster it all over Usenet has the world watching and waiting.

Windbag thinks it's the world now!

>   And I'll remind you that I am probably the only person in this group
> that has yet to call you any names, so watch your step pantyhead.

Hahahahaaaa! All that hot air from the Windbag again!

Go play a game on your games server, Windbag. It's the only place where you
are ever going to score (in any sense of the word).

--
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Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 13:45:48 +0200
Local: Wed, Oct 21 2009 9:45 pm
Subject: Re: Admins that will be served subpoenas

On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:50:52 -0700, Chris Krolczyk wrote:
> Oh, and have fun with xs4all with particular. Other than the fact that
> they're not in the US, I believe they've tanged with the Cult of
> Sc**nt*l*g* and won. That being the case, have a nice life.

Absolutely. Xs4all will only take doen a page/site when it is either in
clear violation of *dutch* law, or when ordered by a judge.

M4


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Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 08:35:53 -0500
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Subject: Re: Admins that will be served subpoenas

     Go kiss a mule, mamma's boy. You're a flaming lunatic with third
grade retorts and everyone reading here knows it. I was here years
before you were, and I'll be here years after you're gone. Now how about
you go play in the traffic, douchebag.

--
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Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 20:15:07 +0200
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Subject: Re: Admins that will be served subpoenas

I don't have a mule, gamer boy. But you do have a games server and certainly
the mind of a gaming pubescent kook. So, go and play on your games server
again!

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Date: 21 Oct 2009 19:29:20 GMT
Local: Thurs, Oct 22 2009 5:29 am
Subject: Re: Admins that will be served subpoenas

Martijn Lievaart <m...@rtij.nl.invlalid> wrote:

  Martijn, you may want to fix that! After all, 'this' *is* a group
about abuse of the net! :-)

  If you don't fix it, we (TINW) will get a court order and take you
down! :-)


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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 20:46:24 +0200
Local: Fri, Oct 23 2009 4:46 am
Subject: Re: Admins that will be served subpoenas

On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 19:29:20 +0000, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> Martijn Lievaart <m...@rtij.nl.invlalid> wrote:

>   Martijn, you may want to fix that! After all, 'this' *is* a group
> about abuse of the net! :-)

>   If you don't fix it, we (TINW) will get a court order and take you
> down! :-)

Sue me!

( I admit there is a remote change that some fetish group will register
this TLD. :-) )

M4


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From: Chris Krolczyk <arfiend2...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 11:04:16 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sun, Oct 25 2009 5:04 am
Subject: Re: Admins that will be served subpoenas
On Oct 21, 6:45 am, Martijn Lievaart <m...@rtij.nl.invlalid> wrote:

> On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:50:52 -0700, Chris Krolczyk wrote:
> > Oh, and have fun with xs4all with particular. Other than the fact that
> > they're not in the US, I believe they've tanged with the Cult of
> > Sc**nt*l*g* and won. That being the case, have a nice life.

> Absolutely. Xs4all will only take doen a page/site when it is either in
> clear violation of *dutch* law, or when ordered by a judge.

The problem is that you're dealing with a
narcissistic asshat who doesn't comprehend
the meaning of the words "jurisdiction" or "court".

Teh Pantyhead doesn't believe in annoying
little things like national borders, court
rulings or even the ability to file a valid
complaint in court; if he did, he wouldn't
be sending those limp "DMCAs" (_sic_) to
ISPs without getting a lawyer's advice first.

So, yeah, he's screwed. By himself. Odd how
that seems to fit his online persona to a
tee, isn't it?

-Chris Krolczyk


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From: The True Edmond Wollmann <EHWollm...@aol.com>
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 09:43:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Admins that will be served subpoenas
On Oct 20, 5:28 am, Bob Officer <boboffic...@127.0.0.7> wrote:

In the end, they took it down. Spinic. How many more years must I
prove you frauds wrong, specious, disingenuos and just plain liars?

Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
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Cujo DeSockpuppet  
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 More options Oct 26, 5:32 am
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From: Cujo DeSockpuppet <c...@petitmorte.net>
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 18:32:44 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Mon, Oct 26 2009 5:32 am
Subject: Re: Admins that will be served subpoenas
The True Edmond Wollmann <EHWollm...@aol.com> wrote in
news:386ad5d0-b1aa-4caf-a77c-0ed98a2c219f@z34g2000vbl.googlegroups.com:

When do you intend to start, Pantyhead?

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 More options Oct 27, 10:04 am
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From: The Chief Instigator <patr...@io.com>
Date: 26 Oct 2009 23:04:52 GMT
Local: Tues, Oct 27 2009 10:04 am
Subject: Re: Admins that will be served subpoenas

2012 December 22nd, probably.

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