Neighbourhood That Works Google Group

Re: The Cooperator

akme.baum...@gmail.com (Alex Baumann) — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 23:29:31 UT

Hi Chris,
I've had a look at your draft and am a bit confused about what you are
suggesting. Although I can see what you are getting at with the
opening page (although I think the wording will have to be drastically
reduced) none of the links seem to make sense and I'm not sure what
technology you are proposing for those links.

RE: The Cooperator

chrisbaul...@hotmail.com (Chris Baulman) — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 06:06:12 UT

Hi Alex,

I've been working on the combination I suggested because I think it can give security as well as full editing & ownership by all. It seems to work quite well.

Some of the moves are a little complex, but then some of the tasks are complex so NO technology will ever overcome that. The complexity only builds for those who want to achieve more - a simple visit to find out what's on or to chat about something is low complexity. Even the most complex demands are achievable fairly simply by following the prompts.

RE: The Cooperator

chrisbaul...@hotmail.com (Chris Baulman) — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 03:39:53 UT

Hi Alex see below

If we can get Google to be editable that would be fine - but pbworks might still be the right technology - people can comment on a page that we set up there and thus add events to it, edit it, delete events. Let's see what can evolve and not get committed yet.

That might make pb a better option. There anyone can edit, The trick will be to set up a page of events so they can just edit it rather than having to set up a page themselves. To get to that page they should be able to click on a direct link from the html page (likewise with "organise something")

RE: The Cooperator

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RE: The Cooperator

chrisbaul...@hotmail.com (Chris Baulman) — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 03:01:04 UT

OK
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Re: The Cooperator

akme.baum...@gmail.com (Alex Baumann) — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 02:19:30 UT

I still have not been able to secure the [link] address
because 110mb is doing maintenance. I'll keep trying.
Alex

2009/11/4 Alex Baumann <akme.baum...@gmail.com>:

Re: The Cooperator

akme.baum...@gmail.com (Alex Baumann) — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 01:45:53 UT

Hi Chris,
We have a bit if a problem because we are now refering traffic from
the [link] to the new and evolving gg
space. The posters you have up invite people to go here to see what's
on and currently there's nothing there. For now I can just link the
what's on priority post the the pbworks what's on page you set up.

Re: The Cooperator

akme.baum...@gmail.com (Alex Baumann) — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 01:04:03 UT

Hi Chris, see below
alex

2009/11/4 Chris Baulman <chrisbaul...@hotmail.com>:

I think there is confusion here. If you look again at what I was
saying (I've pasted it immediately below) I wasn't comparing pbworks
to a html page I was comparing the calendar application you were using
to a html page. This was because we started talking about linking a

RE: The Cooperator

chrisbaul...@hotmail.com (Chris Baulman) — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 00:15:41 UT

Hi Alex - see below

I was saying that if we were going to require people to be tec-savy (set up a html page) then that level of tec-savy would be equal to having to do the pbworks stuff ... however the difference is that any neighbour who is prepared to get their head around the tec stuff could edit pbworks but only the owner of the html page could edit that. I am saying that in principle, pbworks is accessible by all whereas what you are suggesting is not. That said I am still tending towards gg rather than pbworks because in reality equal access in pbworks depends on tec stuff most will not be bothered with.

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Re: The Cooperator

akme.baum...@gmail.com (Alex Baumann) — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 08:19:29 UT

Hi Chris see below.
Alex

2009/11/3 Chris Baulman <chrisbaul...@hotmail.com>:

Not really. The way you had it set up required the addition to a list
which they could do but then it required a link to the info which you
were going to do once they fed you the info through the comment box.

Re: The Cooperator

historicaltrek...@gmail.com (Keith Burgess) — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 06:05:57 UT

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RE: The Cooperator

chrisbaul...@hotmail.com (Chris Baulman) — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 04:51:39 UT

Hi Keith

see my comments interspersed below

Chris

To: neighbourhoodthatworks@googleg roups.com

Okay, I went to the site per your link and clicked on "Activity Interests In Armidale NSW New England". There is only one topic there, so I thought I would add another. But there is no way to do this that I can see without actually answering my own post!

Re: The Cooperator

historicaltrek...@gmail.com (Keith Burgess) — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 04:01:46 UT

Okay, I went to the site per your link and clicked on "Activity Interests In
Armidale NSW New England". There is only one topic there, so I thought I
would add another. But there is no way to do this that I can see without
actually answering my own post!
This is what I mean when I say you are not making it easy. This should have

RE: The Cooperator

chrisbaul...@hotmail.com (Chris Baulman) — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 02:39:25 UT

Hi Alex - see below

I embedded into a pbworks doc, not into an email (forum) message. I've since checked Google help and it seems that, crazy as it seems, you can't embed a Google calendar into a Googlegroup forum.

Originally, when I thought of a calendar, I was also trying to encourage the group who had reached Step 4 (or whatever step it is that tells them to organise jobs into date order) to take a formal step towards action. I agree that the calendar is hard to find stuff in when it is used as a general neighbourhood activity list, but it might have more relevance when used as a to do list. That said, it is not the issue we are grappling with here - how to give easy access to what's on, how to make it editable and make updates without a leader/ moderator