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john  
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From: "john" <nos...@bt.com>
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 09:11:50 +0100
Local: Mon, Sep 21 2009 6:11 pm
Subject: Warning About Flu Vaccines

Warning About Flu Vaccines

Clifford Shoemaker, Esq.

There are two kinds of influenza vaccines (both regular flu and swine
flu) available this year - one contains Thimerosal (a mercury based
preservative) and the other does not.  As a general rule, the
vaccines that come in single dose packages do not contain mercury,
while the multi-dose vials do. However, some clinics pre-fill
syringes from multi-dose vials.  Thus, you need to verify that the
syringe was filled by the vaccine's manufacturer and not by anyone
else, if you are offered a flu-shot dose in a syringe.

The amount of mercury in the Thimerosal preserved vaccines is about
25 micrograms.  The EPA safe dose (confirmed by the National Academy
of Science in 2001) for exposure to methyl mercury that should not be
exceeded is .1 microgram per kilogram of body weight per day.  This
standard is set for "methyl" mercury.  Neither FDA nor EPA has set a
"safe" level for "ethyl" mercury, the active ingredient in
Thimerosal, but the FDA considers them equivalent in its risk
evaluation.  Although they are similar organic molecules, studies
show that an equivalent dose of "ethyl" mercury can actually deposit
more mercury in the brain.  So, if a child receives a shot with 25
micrograms of mercury, the child would have to weigh 550 pounds to
remain within the recommended safe level of exposure.  With regard to
injecting these vaccines into pregnant women, we know that some of
the mercury will cross the placental barrier to the fetus.  We tell
pregnant women not to eat fish, and yet our government is not warning
them about having mercury injected into their bodies while they are
pregnant.  In my opinion, this is inexcusable.

If you receive the swine flu vaccine this year, be sure to keep the
card they give you, and make sure the card lists the manufacturer and
lot number of the vaccine.  But if you are injured by the vaccine,
you will not be able to go to the no fault vaccine court that is
available for other vaccine injuries.  You will have to apply for
compensation to a special program, from which there is no appeal and
no right to pursue any kind of civil litigation.  The industry demand
for complete immunity is yet another reason to doubt government
claims that mercury-containing vaccines are "safe."  CDC admitted at
a meeting of the National Vaccine Advisory Committee meeting on
September 15 that none of the safety trials of the H1N1 vaccines
would be completed on either pregnant women or infants prior to
launch of these vaccines, yet they still "believe" them to be safe.

If you try to get a mercury free flu vaccine and are unable to do so
or if this letter has reached you after you already received your flu
shot and you discover the one you received had mercury in it, please
contact the people at CoMeD (The Coalition for Mercury-free Drugs) by
emailing them your story and detailed contact information using the
"Contact Us" link provided on the CoMeD website:
http://www.Mercury-freeDrugs.org

Since our public health officials do not seem concerned about
protecting the pregnant women and children in this country, I am
forced to ask that everyone who gets this message forward it to all
your family and friends.


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From: Peter Parry <pe...@wpp.ltd.uk>
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:01:19 +0100
Local: Tues, Sep 22 2009 12:01 am
Subject: Re: Warning About Flu Vaccines

On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 09:11:50 +0100, "john" <nos...@bt.com> wrote:
>Warning About Flu Vaccines

>Clifford Shoemaker, Esq.

Is this the same Shoemaker, a lawyer and business associate of the
Geier's,  who threw a hissy fit when details of the vast sums he
collects from (usually unsuccessful) vaccine hearing claims was
published?  

The same Shoemaker who set up the "Institute for Chronic Illnesses" as
a tax-exempt private non operating foundation to finance "medical
research" conducted by Geier and son?

The Shoemaker whose attempts to suppress his critics led to a judge
saying:-

"he [Shoemaker] has no right:
(1) to serve a grossly overly broad subpoena intended to harass;
(2) to go on a “fishing trip” for anything to support a new suit for
defamation ...; and
(3) to fail his duties under Rule 45(c)(1). "

"Clifford J. Shoemaker’s action is an abuse of legal process, a waste
of judicial resources and an unnecessary waste of the time and expense
to the purported deponent."

"As a sanction from this court, Clifford J. Shoemaker is ordered to
attend within three months, a continuing legal education program on
ethics..."

Shoemaker probably thinks ethics is an English county to the north
east of London but don't you think there might just be a small
financial motive behind his exhortation to "contact the people at
CoMeD" when one of the "people" is Shoemaker himself and the others
the peripatetic Geiers?


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From: Mark Probert <mark.prob...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 07:08:18 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Sep 22 2009 12:08 am
Subject: Re: Warning About Flu Vaccines
On Sep 21, 10:01 am, Peter Parry <pe...@wpp.ltd.uk> wrote:

You are correct. Cliffie Shoemaker did all of that, and was censured
by a Federal Judge.

He is a lackey for the Geiers. That is not something a normal person
would aspire to.


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Discussion subject changed to "Warning About Flu Vaccines by a spammer" by Mark Probert
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From: Mark Probert <mark.prob...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 07:09:14 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Warning About Flu Vaccines by a spammer
On Sep 21, 4:11 am, "john" <nos...@bt.com> wrote:

> Warning About Flu Vaccines

> Clifford Shoemaker, Esq.

Spamming for business deleted.

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From: "Smarter Than You" <tool...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 09:40:48 -0500
Local: Tues, Sep 22 2009 12:40 am
Subject: Re: Warning About Flu Vaccines

"Peter Parry" <pe...@wpp.ltd.uk> wrote in message

news:01ueb5pfehd08j9cshdbn1priugmb3c7io@4ax.com...

 Could be, but that does not make the new vacs safe. Peter, PLEASE go and
get your vaccination as soon as you can. Get two if they will give it to
you. Thank you.

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From: "john" <nos...@bt.com>
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 17:45:35 +0100
Local: Tues, Sep 22 2009 2:45 am
Subject: Re: Warning About Flu Vaccines

"Peter Parry" <pe...@wpp.ltd.uk> wrote in message

news:01ueb5pfehd08j9cshdbn1priugmb3c7io@4ax.com...

> On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 09:11:50 +0100, "john" <nos...@bt.com> wrote:

a lecture on ethics

bit rich from an Allopath advocate

but it sure distracts from the mercury


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From: Peter Parry <pe...@wpp.ltd.uk>
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 19:13:00 +0100
Subject: Re: Warning About Flu Vaccines

On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 17:45:35 +0100, "john" <nos...@bt.com> wrote:

>"Peter Parry" <pe...@wpp.ltd.uk> wrote in message
>news:01ueb5pfehd08j9cshdbn1priugmb3c7io@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 09:11:50 +0100, "john" <nos...@bt.com> wrote:

>a lecture on ethics

You are getting confused.  A lecture on ethics (actually a whole
course on the subject) is something the author of your quoted piece
was forced to attend by a court.  

For your education it would have been ethical for you (or the author,
but that might be pushing things too far) to have explained :-

1.  The "letter" was an advertisement.

2.  The author makes a handy living out of furthering  a mercury
scare.

3.  Much of the "evidence" supporting his claims comes from business
associates.

4.  He get paid (very well) even when he fails in court.  The claimant
does not get a penny.

5.  The company he is promoting, CoMeD,  has a business association
with him.


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From: "john" <nos...@bt.com>
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 20:53:43 +0100
Local: Tues, Sep 22 2009 5:53 am
Subject: Re: Warning About Flu Vaccines

"Peter Parry" <pe...@wpp.ltd.uk> wrote in message

> 3.  Much of the "evidence" supporting his claims comes from business
> associates.

like all doctors with their claims to the contrary with all 'expert'
witnesses paid by drug companies

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From: Peter Parry <pe...@wpp.ltd.uk>
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 22:13:06 +0100
Local: Tues, Sep 22 2009 7:13 am
Subject: Re: Warning About Flu Vaccines

On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 20:53:43 +0100, "john" <nos...@bt.com> wrote:
>like all doctors with their claims to the contrary with all 'expert'
>witnesses paid by drug companies

All of which is in the public record.  If the likes of Shoemaker are
as squeaky clean as you seem to think why do they find it necessary to
attempt to hide their commercial interests so assiduously?  It makes
it impossible for them to claim the moral high ground. Is avarice
above honesty for them?

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From: Mark Probert <mark.prob...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 17:39:12 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Sep 22 2009 10:39 am
Subject: Re: Warning About Flu Vaccines
On Sep 21, 5:13 pm, Peter Parry <pe...@wpp.ltd.uk> wrote:

> On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 20:53:43 +0100, "john" <nos...@bt.com> wrote:
> >like all doctors with their claims to the contrary with all 'expert'
> >witnesses paid by drug companies

> All of which is in the public record.  If the likes of Shoemaker are
> as squeaky clean as you seem to think why do they find it necessary to
> attempt to hide their commercial interests so assiduously?  It makes
> it impossible for them to claim the moral high ground. Is avarice
> above honesty for them?

Why did Shoemaker try to stifle Kathleen Seidel's free speech when she
wrote about his antics?

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From: Jan Drew <jdrew63...@aol.com>
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 23:33:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Warning About Flu Vaccines
http://www.nvic.org/

http://www.childproofing.org/vaccine&autism.html

New Research Suggests Link Between Vaccine Ingredients and Autism,
ADHD
[Source: Northeastern University.]
http://www.newswise.com/articles/view/503041/NewsWise

Newswise - According to new research from Northeastern University
pharmacy professor Richard Deth and colleagues from the University of
Nebraska, Tufts, and Johns Hopkins University, there is an apparent
link between exposure to certain neurodevelopmental toxins and an
increased possibility of developing neurological disorders including
autism and attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder. The research -
the first to offer an explanation for possible causes of two
increasingly common childhood neurological disorders - is published
today in the April 2004 issue of the journal Molecular Psychiatry.

Though some speculation exists regarding this link, Deth and his
colleagues found that exposure to toxins, such as ethanol and heavy
metals (including lead, aluminum and the ethylmercury-containing
preservative thimerosal) potently interrupt growth factor signaling,
causing adverse effects on methylation reactions (i.e. the transfer of
carbon atoms). Methylation, in turn, plays a significant role in
regulating normal DNA function and gene expression, and is critical to
proper neurological development in infants and children. Scientists
and practitioners have identified an increase in diagnoses of autism
and ADHD in particular,  though the reasons why are largely unknown.

In their work, the scientists found that insulin-like growth factor-1
(IGF-1) and the neurotransmitter dopamine both stimulated folate-
dependent methylation pathways in neuronal cells. At the same time
they noted that compounds like thimerosal, ethanol and metals (like
lead and mercury) effectively inhibited these same biochemical
pathways at concentrations that are typically found following
vaccination or other sources of exposure.

By better understanding what happens when infants and children are
exposed to these materials, the work of Deth and his colleagues helps
to explain how environmental contact with metals and administration of
certain vaccines may lead to serious disorders that manifest
themselves during childhood, including autism and ADHD.

"Scientists certainly acknowledge that exposure to neurotoxins like
ethanol and heavy metals can cause developmental disorders, but until
now, the precise mechanisms underlying their toxicity have not been
known," said Deth. "The recent increase in the incidence of autism led
us to speculate that environmental exposures, including vaccine
additives might contribute to the triggering of this disorder."

Thimerosal, which was largely phased out in the U.S. and in Europe
starting in 2000, was often used for its preservative abilities in
multi-dose units of vaccines for diseases like hepatitis, whooping
cough, tetanus and diptheria.

Today, most vaccines carry only trace amounts of it, according to the
CDC. But in larger, multi-dose vials of these vaccines, often shipped
to and used in third world countries, thimerosal is still very common.
Multi-dose flu vaccines still contain thimerosal.

Additionally, the scientists recently obtained more insight into the
mechanism by which thimerosal interferes with folate-dependent
methylation.

It acts by inhibiting the biosynthesis of the active form of vitamin
B12 (methylcobalamin), which is of particular interest because doctors
treating autistic kids are having good success with the administration
of methycobalamin.


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Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 08:48:10 GMT
Local: Tues, Sep 22 2009 6:48 pm
Subject: Re: Warning About Flu Vaccines

Jan Drew <jdrew63...@aol.com> wrote:
>is published
>today in the April 2004 issue of the journal Molecular Psychiatry

Old news. Old lies.

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From: Mark Probert <mark.prob...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 06:49:43 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Sep 22 2009 11:49 pm
Subject: Re: Warning About Flu Vaccines
On Sep 22, 2:33 am, Jan Drew <jdrew63...@aol.com> wrote:

That would be the National Vaccine Disinformation Center whose motto
is...

See us if you want VD.


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Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:05:36 +0200
Local: Wed, Sep 23 2009 4:05 am
Subject: Re: Warning About Flu Vaccines

On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 23:33:00 -0700 (PDT), Jan Drew <jdrew63...@aol.com> wrote:

A warning is neccessary, yes, indeed. A warning about the lies of the esotters
and the naturopathic mafiosi, and about their sabotage to the health system.

Impfkritiker
Was man über sie wissen sollte,
wenn man überleben will

Diese Site ist gewidmet denen, deren Leben durch Impfgegner zerstört wurde. Sie
ist gewidmet den Eltern und den Kindern - und vor allem jenen, die jetzt
sterben, sterben an einer Krankheit, die durch eine Impfung hätte verhindert
werden können.

latest developments:

Zwei Kinder sterben wegen Impfgegnern an SSPE
Two children die with SSPE because of an anti-vaccinationist pair

In Germany we now have an ultimate extreme case: the death of two children in
series, both with SSPE, both infections caused by the very same incident, both
are victims of a pair of German anti-vaccinationists.

The German pediatricians' society has a web-site, where they publish this
message:

http://www.kinderaerzte-im-netz.de/bvkj/aktuelles1/show.php3?id=2836&...
<quote>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----

02.07.2008
Masern in Bad Salzuflen - zweites
Kind in Folge an tödlicher Gehirnentzündung erkrankt

Video zum Masern-SSPE-Fall
http://www.monks.de/kin_videos/Infektionskrankheiten/Masern/Natalie-S...

Ein 10-jähriges Mädchen aus Bad Salzuflen ist an
einer chronischen Maserngehirnentzündung erkrankt.

Die so genannte Subakute Sklerosierende
Panenzephalitis - kurz SSPE - kann als Spätfolge
einer Masernerkrankung auftreten und verläuft praktisch
immer tödlich. Der Fall der kleinen Natalie ist vor
allem deshalb bemerkenswert, da es im gleichen Ort
einen zweiten Fall einer SSPE-Erkrankung gibt
(Michael Giesbrecht, 9 Jahre - Kinderaerzte-im-Netz berichtete),
http://www.kinderaerzte-im-netz.de/bvkj/aktuelles1/show.php3?id=1517&...

die offensichtlich den gleichen Ursprung hat.
Beide Kinder waren im Säuglingsalter an Masern
erkrankt - angesteckt hatten sie sich beim
routinemäßigen Besuch eines Kinder- und Jugendarztes,
um die anstehenden Vorsorgeuntersuchungen
durchzuführen. Die Infektion ging von einem 11-jährigen
Jungen aus, der am gleichen Tag im Frühjahr 1999 mit
unspezifischen Beschwerden in der Praxis war und bei
dem sich erst am darauf folgenden Tag die typischen
Masernsymptome zeigten. Insgesamt hatte dieser Junge,
dessen Eltern die Masernimpfung ablehnten, in dieser
Praxis 6 weitere Kinder, darunter drei Säuglinge mit
Masern infiziert. Bei zwei dieser Kinder, die heute 9
und 10 Jahre alt sind, wurde inzwischen eine
SSPE-Erkrankung diagnostiziert. "Eine solche
unerklärliche Häufung von SSPE-Erkrankungen ist in
der wissenschaftlichen Literatur bisher nicht
beschrieben worden. Diese Fälle sind nicht nur sehr
tragisch für die betroffenen Kinder und deren Familien
- sie zeigen auch sehr deutlich, dass Masern keine
harmlose Kinderkrankheit sind. Besonders Säuglinge,
die ja noch nicht geimpft werden können, haben ein
erhöhtes Risiko an dieser gefährlichen Spätfolge der
Masern zu versterben. Es ist daher besonders wichtig,
Maserninfektionen bei Säuglingen zu verhindern", warnt
Prof. Dr. med. Reinhard Berner vom Zentrum für
Kinder- und Jugendmedizin am Universitätsklinikum
Freiburg und Vorsitzender der Deutschen Gesellschaft
für Pädiatrische Infektiologie (DGPI). Auch eine
britische Studie zeigt, dass die Gefahr für Säuglinge
besonders groß ist. Demnach erkrankt etwa 1 von 5.000
Kindern, die in den ersten 12 Lebensmonaten die
Masern durchmachen, im Laufe seines weiteren Lebens
an dieser tödlichen Gehirnentzündung. Nach
Informationen des Berufsverbandes der Kinder- und
Jugendärzte in Deutschland (BVKJ) wurden seit 2003
insgesamt 18 Fälle von SSPE in Deutschland
diagnostiziert - darunter auch sechs Fälle aus
Nordrhein-Westfalen (NRW). 17 dieser Kinder waren
im Säuglingsalter an Masern erkrankt. Während der
letzten großen Masernepidemie in NRW im Jahre 2006
waren mehr als 1.600 Menschen, meist Kinder und
Jugendliche, an Masern erkrankt - nach Angaben des
Landesinstitut für den Öffentlichen Gesundheitsdienst
(lögd) darunter auch über 100 Säuglinge.

Vollständiger Impfstatus als Voraussetzung für
Kindergärten und Kindertagesstätten (Kita)
BVKJ und DGPI fordern, dass alle Kinder vor dem
Besuch einer Gemeinschaftseinrichtung alle von der
Ständigen Impfkommission (STIKO) empfohlenen
Impfungen nachweisen müssen. "Gerade vor dem
Hintergrund, dass zunehmend auch neue Kita-Plätze für
Säuglinge und Kleinkinder geschaffen werden, ist es
eine Verpflichtung für die Träger dieser Einrichtungen,
die gesundheitliche Sicherheit derer zu gewährleisten,
die sich selbst nicht schützen können. Das gilt natürlich
auch für Kinder, die aufgrund einer Immunschwäche
oder einer Krebserkrankung nicht geimpft werden
können. In allen Ländern, in denen dieses Modell - No
Vaccination No School - angewandt wird, sind die
Masern eliminiert. Und damit verschwindet auch die
SSPE", erläutert Berner. Kritisiert wird von den
Experten insbesondere das neue Gesetz zur frühen
Bildung und Förderung von Kindern - kurz KiBiz -, das
in NRW im Zentrum des verstärkten Ausbaus des
Betreuungsangebotes für unter Dreijährige steht. "Wir
haben mehrfach dafür gerungen, dass im Gesetzentwurf
ein Passus verankert wird, der eine Impfpasskontrolle
als Voraussetzung für einen Platz in der
Kindertagesstätte oder im Kindergarten festschreibt.
Aber die Politiker hier in NRW scheinen
beratungsresistent zu sein. Noch immer sterben Kinder
in Deutschland an Masern. Es ist eine Schande. Alle
Experten wissen, wie diese gefährliche Krankheit in
Deutschland ausgerottet werden könnte - doch das
KiBiz-Gesetz wird von ahnungslosen Politikern aus
dem Ministerium für Generationen, Familien, Frauen
und Integration verantwortet, die auch die Position des
Gesundheitsministeriums von NRW nicht berücksichtigt
haben", kritisiert Dr. Thomas Fischbach,
Landesvorsitzender der Kinder- und Jugendärzte in
Nordrhein.

WHO kritisiert Deutschland

Das von der Weltgesundheitsorganisation (WHO)
vorgegebene Ziel - die Eliminierung der Masern in
Deutschland bis 2010 - sieht der Berufsverband der
Kinder- und Jugendärzte inzwischen außer Reichweite.
Seit Anfang des Jahres sind in Deutschland bereits über
750 Menschen an Masern erkrankt. Kritik kommt daher
auch von der WHO. "Um Masern auszurotten, braucht
man eine klare Impfstrategie, die alle Kinder im zweiten
Lebensjahr erreicht. Gerade in
Gemeinschaftseinrichtungen können sich Masern schnell
verbreiten. Ungeimpfte Kinder haben nicht nur selbst
ein hohes Erkrankungsrisiko - sie gefährden auch die
Gesundheit anderer. Die Regelung wonach alle Kinder
gegen Masern geimpft sein müssen, bevor sie eine
Gemeinschaftseinrichtung besuchen dürfen, hat sich in
vielen Ländern als sehr erfolgreich erwiesen. Denn
noch immer sterben weltweit etwa 240.000 Kinder
jedes Jahr an Masern - es ist eine gefährliche
Erkrankung", so Dr. Nedret Emiroglu vom
WHO-Regionalbüro für Europa.
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</quote>

In short: In 1999 in a German town an 11 year old boy ill with measles is in the
waiting room of a pediatrician. A mother with her baby Micha is also there. The
baby Micha catches measles. Some years later Micha has SSPE. Today Micha is
still alive, but is under 24-hour care and gets morphine.

In the very same pediatrician practise on the very same day another baby is in
the waiting room. This baby, Natalie, also catches measles from the first
mentioned boy (some 4 other children also did).

Today Natalie has SSPE.

The boy, who brought the measles into the waiting room, is the child of
anti-vaccinationists, who refused measles vaccination.

The risk of SSPE is MUCH higher than all the time was claimed. According to a
study about a year ago the risk of SSPE is about 1:2000.

Risk of death by measles directly is about 1:500 to 1:1000.

This makes the total risk for death caused by measles in total to about 1:400.

The German Robert Koch Institut publishes false data. These false data the
Robert Koch Institut spreads, and the media and health agencies
("Gesundheitsamt") transport these false data without questioning them.

Complaints with the Robert Koch Institut are useless - I tried that.

Complaints with the newspapers are useless - they tell you, that they received
the material from health agencies.

Mrs. von der Leyen, Minister in Germany, is a medical doctor. Nonetheless she
transports the false data. Complaints with her office were useless. They
"answer" with some childish babble they spill out every day. They do not
understand the facts, they are clueless.

Here is an example of false data, just published today (concerning the
aforementioned two coupled cases of SSPE!) by the German "Zweites Deutsches
Fernsehen":

http://www.zdf.de/ZDFde/inhalt/17/0,1872,7261681,00.html

<quote>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----

Aktuelles Datum: 03. Juli 2008

Mo-Fr, 5.30 Uhr

Tödliche Maserngefahr

Kinderärzte fordern Impfpflicht für Kita-Besuch

Der Berufsverband der Kinder- und Jugendärzte (BVKJ) hat einen vollständigen
Impfschutz für Kinder als Voraussetzung für den Kita-Besuch gefordert. Da für
Säuglinge und Kleinkinder immer mehr Betreuungsplätze entstünden und diese
Gruppe besonders gefährdet sei, müsse etwa eine Masernimpfung Pflicht werden,
forderte der Verband am Mittwoch in einer Mitteilung.

Hintergrund des neuerlichen Verbandsaufrufs ist die Erkrankung zweier Kinder im
lippischen Bad Salzuflen an der unheilbaren und tödlich verlaufenden
Gehirnentzündung SSPE als Folge einer Maserninfektion.

Beim Kinderarzt angesteckt

Die beiden Kinder in Bad Salzuflen - ein zehnjähriges ...

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Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:44:52 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Warning About Flu Vaccines
Clifford Shoemaker is by far the BEST vaccine injury attorney in the
country. He has given a few parents I know a little bit of "justice"
from Pharma induced injuries to their babies.

Very caring, compassionate, INTLIGENT human being.

I regret voting for Obama, I thought and hoped he would be for CHANGE,
of course he isnt.

Hes just another greedy politician.

On Sep 21, 4:11 am, "john" <nos...@bt.com> wrote:


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Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 08:55:00 -0500
Subject: Re: Warning About Flu Vaccines

"Kevysmom" <kevysmo...@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:7bba6e85-8eb8-4cb9-a628-b3d982753824@33g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
Clifford Shoemaker is by far the BEST vaccine injury attorney in the
country. He has given a few parents I know a little bit of "justice"
from Pharma induced injuries to their babies.

Very caring, compassionate, INTLIGENT human being.

I regret voting for Obama, I thought and hoped he would be for CHANGE,
of course he isnt.

Hes just another greedy politician.

On Sep 21, 4:11 am, "john" <nos...@bt.com> wrote:

 Why do we need politicians?

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Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 16:08:17 +0100
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On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:44:52 -0700 (PDT), Kevysmom

<kevysmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Very caring, compassionate, INTLIGENT human being.

Setting aside the probability that caring, compassionate and lawyer is
almost certainly an oxymoron I'm a bit puzzled as to how you come to
apply that description to someone who:-

Writes infomercial  without bothering to tell people of his commercial
work in this area and which directs them to organisations from which
he profits.

Misused his position as a lawyer to attempt to intimidate and silence
his critics for daring to expose the money he makes from his
anti-vaccine activities.  An activity so repulsive that even the likes
of Kirby and Olmsted criticised it and which eventually led to his
censure by a court and forced attendance on a ethics training course.

As for intelligent - his scientific "advisors" and business partners
are the Geiers.  Associating with that pair isn't exactly a sign of
intelligence.  Cunning maybe, but not intelligence.  As one judge said
of one of them "...[a] professional witness in areas for which he has
no training, expertise, and experience," whose testimony was
"intellectually dishonest," and "nothing more than an egregious
example of blatant, result-oriented testimony."


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Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 19:26:35 +0100
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Subject: Re: Warning About Flu Vaccines

"Peter Parry" <pe...@wpp.ltd.uk> wrote in message

> As for intelligent - his scientific "advisors" and business partners
> are the Geiers.  Associating with that pair isn't exactly a sign of
> intelligence.  Cunning maybe, but not intelligence.  As one judge said
> of one of them "...[a] professional witness in areas for which he has
> no training, expertise, and experience," whose testimony was
> "intellectually dishonest," and "nothing more than an egregious
> example of blatant, result-oriented testimony."

must be a similar pharma judge to this one
http://www.whale.to/vaccine/sedley_h.html

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Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 17:21:36 -0700 (PDT)
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On Sep 22, 11:44 pm, Kevysmom <kevysmo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Clifford Shoemaker is by far the BEST vaccine injury attorney in the
> country.

Only if you call being sanctioned for the way he abused his authority
as an attorney. Read this:

http://neurodiversity.com/weblog/?q=shoemaker

> Very caring, compassionate, INTLIGENT human being.

He may be INTLIGENT, but he is not too bright. Take a good look at
what he did to Kathleen. Look how he is getting bashed by the judges.

Note that he gets paid win or lose.

> I regret voting for Obama, I thought and hoped he would be for CHANGE,
> of course he isnt.

> Hes just another greedy politician.

How is he greedy? Is he lining his pockets? Do explain this stupid
statement.


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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 02:31:31 +0200
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On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 17:21:36 -0700 (PDT), Mark Probert <mark.prob...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Note that he gets paid win or lose.

That is standard in Germany!
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