> > > > > > The Association of Accredited Naturopathic Medical Colleges (AANMC) > > > > > > was established ... efforts of accredited and recognized schools of > > > > > > naturopathic medicine.
> > > > > > Naturopathic Medicine Schools & Careers > > > > > > Learn About Naturopathic Medicine Careers and Naturopathy > > > > > > Infrastructure > > > > > > Naturopathy Schools | Natural Healers Career Resource Center
> > > > > Thanks Jan. I did learn something and it pushed me a bit > > > > > more toward Mark and Oyster's position. Not all > > > > > the way just a couple of feet.
> > > > You'll get there eventually.
> > > > One step at a time.
> > > Sounds like both O*BOMB*A and McCain.
> > Do you know what you are blathering about?
> Yes, evidently you do not.
No one else does, either.
> Nor was I blathering.
Sure you were.
Blather, blather, blather.
> As usual I posted the truth. My name for the president is * O*BOMB*A > Because he has bombed out so many times. > If they bothers you, too bad.
It does not bother me in the slightest. However, I note that my posts seem to bother the cleanse out of you.
> > > Truth is no one knows if they will be alive in the next second.-
> > > > > > > > The Association of Accredited Naturopathic Medical Colleges (AANMC) > > > > > > > > was established ... efforts of accredited and recognized schools of > > > > > > > > naturopathic medicine.
> > > > > > > > Naturopathic Medicine Schools & Careers > > > > > > > > Learn About Naturopathic Medicine Careers and Naturopathy > > > > > > > > Infrastructure > > > > > > > > Naturopathy Schools | Natural Healers Career Resource Center
> > > > > > > Thanks Jan. I did learn something and it pushed me a bit > > > > > > > more toward Mark and Oyster's position. Not all > > > > > > > the way just a couple of feet.
> > > > > Homeopathy/cell salts are bunk. In the 19th century > > > > > it didn't matter much given the dangers of more > > > > > conventional medicine of the era. But now the conventional > > > > > medicine are more effective though highly imperfect. > > > > > Naturopathy could be so much more > > > > > than it is. My view of alternative care came by way a DO whose > > > > > used some elements of naturopathy in that he was willing to > > > > > use drugs, amino acids, nutrients, vitamin D, and certain hormones > > > > > in different ways than conventional medicine.
> > > > > We differ on what good care involves. It is as if I am > > > > > on a different corner of a triangle. Mark is a different > > > > > corner and you are on the remaining one. I am about > > > > > what works and what doesn't. Sometimes I am just > > > > > thinking out loud and at other times I playing and > > > > > trying on ideas. I hope I am about process not > > > > > foregone conclusions.
> > > > > Take for example the vaccine controversy, there > > > > > those who doubt all vaccines and those who support > > > > > all vaccines.
> > > > You are not framing the issue correctly. It is a question of those of > > > > us who support science and the science supporting safety and efficacy > > > > of vaccinations,
> > > There is none.
> > Thanks for proving my point. I knew I could count on you.
> Thank you. Yes I post the truth
You posting the truth reminds me of the story of a million monkeys, a million typewriters, and Shakespeare.
> Nothing to post about that? > Why am I not surprised?
It uses Sherri Tenpenny, D.O., as an expert. Why bother, when she is a looney as you?
> > > Now, get busy and help your wife with the household chores. Rather > > > than spending hours > > > arguing on Usenet.-
> > YOU argue. I discuss.
> > The chores are done. They were taken care of earlier. Saturday is > > housekeeper day.
> Oh, you can afford a housekeeper, but you could not help Virginia when > you was homeless.
I was not homeless, dummy.
And, what I did for her is her and my business, not yours, and she honors that I asked that it not be discussed.
YOU, OTOH, bleated and brayed all over Usenet what you did. I do what I do for the other person, not to show it off and try to show what a wonderful person I am.
The fact that YOU had to whinney about it, shows the real reason why you did what you did.
Very telling. There are chores to be done everyday
> in any house.
Sure. And they get done. No problem.
> But, you send many hours on Usenet arguing.
Tikkun Olan
> > I am preparing for going to the NY Jets game tomorrow.
> While you wife does all the work at home.
Nope. We have separate interests. My son got tickets. She wanted to see something on Broadway that I had no interest in seeing.
> > > > > > > The Association of Accredited Naturopathic Medical Colleges (AANMC) > > > > > > > was established ... efforts of accredited and recognized schools of > > > > > > > naturopathic medicine.
> The Association of Accredited Naturopathic Medical Colleges (AANMC) > was established ... efforts of accredited and recognized schools of > naturopathic medicine.
> Naturopathic Medicine Schools & Careers > Learn About Naturopathic Medicine Careers and Naturopathy > Infrastructure > Naturopathy Schools | Natural Healers Career Resource Center
Considering that DragonGirl is obviously more intelligent than you are, I felt that she was more that sufficiently bright enough to be able to put 2 and 2 together and see that I feel that telling people to shut up goes against my principles of free speech. I know that this does not satisfy you, but, frankly, I do not give a cleanse whether it does or not. It satisfies me, and, that is all that counts.
Dan wrote: > Rich, are you a cop on the case? Are you the one doing the autopsy? > Have you heard of the right "innocent until proven guilty"? I guess > not, so shut up and let the courts take care of it.
Oh Dear, another rude AltNut who wants people to "shut up". Have you ever heard of *free speech*? You know, that thing that the US Constitution protects in the First Amendment....the one that is the basis for Oliver Wendell Holmes Free Marketplace of Ideas? I am sure you are not aware of this, and the fact that the 1stA protects unpopular speech, not popular speech.
Based purely on my observations, I must conclude that advocating for Altmed, or whatever is not conventional med, has a serious side effect of making the person intolerant and rude.
Dan wrote: > Rich, are you a cop on the case? Are you the one doing the autopsy? > Have you heard of the right "innocent until proven guilty"? I guess > not, so shut up and let the courts take care of it.
Oh Dear, another rude AltNut who wants people to "shut up". Have you ever heard of *free speech*? You know, that thing that the US Constitution protects in the First Amendment....the one that is the basis for Oliver Wendell Holmes Free Marketplace of Ideas? I am sure you are not aware of this, and the fact that the 1stA protects unpopular speech, not popular speech.
Based purely on my observations, I must conclude that advocating for Altmed, or whatever is not conventional med, has a serious side effect of making the person intolerant and rude.
> Considering that DragonGirl is obviously more intelligent than you > are, > I felt that she was more that sufficiently bright enough to be able > to > put 2 and 2 together and see that I feel that telling people to shut > up > goes against my principles of free speech. I know that this does not > satisfy you, but, frankly, I do not give a cleanse whether it does or > not. It satisfies me, and, that is all that counts.
> Dan wrote: > > Rich, are you a cop on the case? Are you the one doing the autopsy? > > Have you heard of the right "innocent until proven guilty"? I guess > > not, so shut up and let the courts take care of it.
> Oh Dear, another rude AltNut who wants people to "shut up". Have you > ever heard of *free speech*? You know, that thing that the US > Constitution protects in the First Amendment....the one that is the > basis for Oliver Wendell Holmes Free Marketplace of Ideas? I am sure > you > are not aware of this, and the fact that the 1stA protects unpopular > speech, not popular speech.
> Based purely on my observations, I must conclude that advocating for > Altmed, or whatever is not conventional med, has a serious side > effect > of making the person intolerant and rude.
> Dan wrote: > > Rich, are you a cop on the case? Are you the one doing the autopsy? > > Have you heard of the right "innocent until proven guilty"? I guess > > not, so shut up and let the courts take care of it.
> Oh Dear, another rude AltNut who wants people to "shut up". Have you > ever heard of *free speech*? You know, that thing that the US > Constitution protects in the First Amendment....the one that is the > basis for Oliver Wendell Holmes Free Marketplace of Ideas? I am sure > you > are not aware of this, and the fact that the 1stA protects unpopular > speech, not popular speech.
> Based purely on my observations, I must conclude that advocating for > Altmed, or whatever is not conventional med, has a serious side > effect > of making the person intolerant and rude.
> It is the fact you sent the email which is not polite.
Wrong, stupid. The email was in response to Ilena sending unsolicited email to my wife's business account when my wife had never, ever, posted to Usenet. Ilena also did the same to Andy Langer, and she was proud of both actions.
YOU remained silent, although there is no doubt that YOU would be bleating and braying all over Usenet if you got the same treatment.
> Considering that DragonGirl is obviously more intelligent than you > are, > I felt that she was more that sufficiently bright enough to be able > to > put 2 and 2 together and see that I feel that telling people to shut > up > goes against my principles of free speech. I know that this does not > satisfy you, but, frankly, I do not give a cleanse whether it does or > not. It satisfies me, and, that is all that counts.
Yes, that is my feeling, exactly. I prefer for you to post and continually prove what a waste of protoplasm you are.
> Dan wrote: > > Rich, are you a cop on the case? Are you the one doing the autopsy? > > Have you heard of the right "innocent until proven guilty"? I guess > > not, so shut up and let the courts take care of it.
> Oh Dear, another rude AltNut who wants people to "shut up". Have you > ever heard of *free speech*? You know, that thing that the US > Constitution protects in the First Amendment....the one that is the > basis for Oliver Wendell Holmes Free Marketplace of Ideas? I am sure > you > are not aware of this, and the fact that the 1stA protects unpopular > speech, not popular speech.
> Based purely on my observations, I must conclude that advocating for > Altmed, or whatever is not conventional med, has a serious side > effect > of making the person intolerant and rude.
> Dan wrote: > > Rich, are you a cop on the case? Are you the one doing the autopsy? > > Have you heard of the right "innocent until proven guilty"? I guess > > not, so shut up and let the courts take care of it.
> Oh Dear, another rude AltNut who wants people to "shut up". Have you > ever heard of *free speech*? You know, that thing that the US > Constitution protects in the First Amendment....the one that is the > basis for Oliver Wendell Holmes Free Marketplace of Ideas? I am sure > you > are not aware of this, and the fact that the 1stA protects unpopular > speech, not popular speech.
> Based purely on my observations, I must conclude that advocating for > Altmed, or whatever is not conventional med, has a serious side > effect > of making the person intolerant and rude.
> > > > > > > > The Association of Accredited Naturopathic Medical Colleges (AANMC) > > > > > > > > was established ... efforts of accredited and recognized schools of > > > > > > > > naturopathic medicine.
Mark Probert <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote: >On Nov 3, 12:04 am, Jan Drew <jdrew63...@aol.com> wrote: >> On Nov 2, 12:13 am, Jan Drew <jdrew63...@aol.com> wrote:
>> > On Oct 31, 10:53 pm, Mark Probert <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > On Oct 31, 8:52 pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63...@aol.com> wrote:
>> > > > On Oct 31, 8:22 pm, Mark Probert <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > > On Oct 30, 7:39 pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63...@aol.com> wrote:
>> > > > > > On Oct 23, 8:49 pm, Mark Probert <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > > > > On Oct 23, 8:04 pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63...@aol.com> wrote:
>> > > > > > > > The Association of Accredited Naturopathic Medical Colleges (AANMC) >> > > > > > > > was established ... efforts of accredited and recognized schools of >> > > > > > > > naturopathic medicine.
> Considering that DragonGirl is obviously more intelligent than you > are, > I felt that she was more that sufficiently bright enough to be able > to > put 2 and 2 together and see that I feel that telling people to shut > up > goes against my principles of free speech. I know that this does not > satisfy you, but, frankly, I do not give a cleanse whether it does or > not. It satisfies me, and, that is all that counts.
> Dan wrote: > > Rich, are you a cop on the case? Are you the one doing the autopsy? > > Have you heard of the right "innocent until proven guilty"? I guess > > not, so shut up and let the courts take care of it.
> Oh Dear, another rude AltNut who wants people to "shut up". Have you > ever heard of *free speech*? You know, that thing that the US > Constitution protects in the First Amendment....the one that is the > basis for Oliver Wendell Holmes Free Marketplace of Ideas? I am sure > you > are not aware of this, and the fact that the 1stA protects unpopular > speech, not popular speech.
> Based purely on my observations, I must conclude that advocating for > Altmed, or whatever is not conventional med, has a serious side > effect > of making the person intolerant and rude.
> Dan wrote: > > Rich, are you a cop on the case? Are you the one doing the autopsy? > > Have you heard of the right "innocent until proven guilty"? I guess > > not, so shut up and let the courts take care of it.
> Oh Dear, another rude AltNut who wants people to "shut up". Have you > ever heard of *free speech*? You know, that thing that the US > Constitution protects in the First Amendment....the one that is the > basis for Oliver Wendell Holmes Free Marketplace of Ideas? I am sure > you > are not aware of this, and the fact that the 1stA protects unpopular > speech, not popular speech.
> Based purely on my observations, I must conclude that advocating for > Altmed, or whatever is not conventional med, has a serious side > effect > of making the person intolerant and rude.
> > It is the fact you sent the email which is not polite.
> Wrong, stupid. The email was in response to Ilena sending unsolicited > email to my wife's business account when my wife had never, ever, > posted to Usenet. Ilena also did the same to Andy Langer, and she was > proud of both actions.
> YOU remained silent, although there is no doubt that YOU would be > bleating and braying all over Usenet if you got the same treatment.
> > Considering that DragonGirl is obviously more intelligent than you > > are, > > I felt that she was more that sufficiently bright enough to be able > > to > > put 2 and 2 together and see that I feel that telling people to shut > > up > > goes against my principles of free speech. I know that this does not > > satisfy you, but, frankly, I do not give a cleanse whether it does or > > not. It satisfies me, and, that is all that counts.
> Yes, that is my feeling, exactly. I prefer for you to post and > continually prove what a waste of protoplasm you are.
> > Dan wrote: > > > Rich, are you a cop on the case? Are you the one doing the autopsy? > > > Have you heard of the right "innocent until proven guilty"? I guess > > > not, so shut up and let the courts take care of it.
> > Oh Dear, another rude AltNut who wants people to "shut up". Have you > > ever heard of *free speech*? You know, that thing that the US > > Constitution protects in the First Amendment....the one that is the > > basis for Oliver Wendell Holmes Free Marketplace of Ideas? I am sure > > you > > are not aware of this, and the fact that the 1stA protects unpopular > > speech, not popular speech.
> > Based purely on my observations, I must conclude that advocating for > > Altmed, or whatever is not conventional med, has a serious side > > effect > > of making the person intolerant and rude.
> > Dan wrote: > > > Rich, are you a cop on the case? Are you the one doing the autopsy? > > > Have you heard of the right "innocent until proven guilty"? I guess > > > not, so shut up and let the courts take care of it.
> > Oh Dear, another rude AltNut who wants people to "shut up". Have you > > ever heard of *free speech*? You know, that thing that the US > > Constitution protects in the First Amendment....the one that is the > > basis for Oliver Wendell Holmes Free Marketplace of Ideas? I am sure > > you > > are not aware of this, and the fact that the 1stA protects unpopular > > speech, not popular speech.
> > Based purely on my observations, I must conclude that advocating for > > Altmed, or whatever is not conventional med, has a serious side > > effect > > of making the person intolerant and rude.
Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative From: Mark Probert <mark.prob...@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 03:27:02 -0800 (PST) Local: Mon, Feb 9 2009 6:27 am Subject: Re: No Censorship, just whining
Only the anti-vac liars tell people to shut up in MHA. Read your own posts.
Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative From: Mark Probert <markprob...@lumbercartel.com> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 10:01:13 -0400 Local: Sun, Jun 26 2005 10:01 am Subject: Re: Mark Probert Blathers (I missed it)
2005
PeterB, you are invited to email me...if you choose not to do so, shut the fuck up.
Jan Drew wrote: > "Mark Probert" <markprob...@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message > news:nxZNf.10$s53.7@fe12.lga... >> Skeptic wrote: >>> "PeterB" <p...@mytrashmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:1141395091.548881.88430@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... >>>> Skeptic, one of our resident pharma bloggers, >>> You got me! Despite never being paid a penny by any pharmaceutical >>> company, I'm a "pharma blogger". Damn, I've been found out. At least >>> you are consistent with the factual content of your posts. >>> You can believe what you like. You can insult whom you choose. I can >>> handle - this is an internet discussion board, after all. What I don't >>> understand, however, is why people, like yourself, who are arguing one >>> aspect of medicine (using the term broadly) do not wish to hear the >>> opinion from those who actually treat patients daily. I would think, >>> whether you agree with me or not, that I'd be the very kind of person >>> you'd want to engage in a discussion. Is it more fun for you to just go >>> on agreeing with those who share your viewpoint? Sort of defeats the >>> purpose of a "discussion" board, eh? >> I have found that AltNuts, like Petey, et al, are the ones who tell people >> to shut up, > Newsgroups: talk.politics.medicine, alt.support.breast-implant, > misc.health.alternative, alt.support.attn-deficit > From: Mark Probert <markprob...@lumbercartel.com> > Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 19:24:08 -0400 > Local: Tues, Jul 19 2005 6:24 pm > Subject: Re: Mark Probert LIES & Vashti LIES (was God Bless Dr Breggin) > So, either post some real proof that I intended to disrupt, or shut the > fuck up. > Newsgroup: misc.health.alternative > From Mark Probert <markprob...@lumbercartel.com> > Sun, Jun 26 2005 9:01 am > Subject: Mark Probert Blathers (I missed it) > PeterB, you are invited to email me...if you choose not to do so, shut > the fuck up. > call ISPs, whine about others postings, etc. all in >> an effort to silence them. >> AFAIAC, they are afraid of hearing things which they cannot refute.
Note that I said that AltNuts who cannot refute, tell people to shut up.
The comments of mine, which you took out of context, which is a form of lying, were made to people who were accusing me of disgusting deeds of which I am not guilty.
Thus, my comment to prove it, or shut the fuck up.
Note what Mark S Probert actually posted:
>> I have found that AltNuts, like Petey, et al, are the ones who tell people >> to shut up,
