Silence about Vaccine Deaths in Media is Due to the Confidential Contracts with Vaccine Manufacturers
The Flu Case - I am a Swedish general practioner working in Belgium, and quite involved in this issue, as together with three citizens and another GP we advised the Belgian Government last Friday in court that this is a disguised pharmaceutical trial on human subjects, with real risks involved.
I put in two comments on the story (see below), that are quite relevant in the context that the Swedish Newspapers have seemingly stopped reporting the intermediary results of this disguised pharmaceutical trial.
If you can read French, you will discover at http://www.lepoint2.com/sons/pdf/vaccin-H1N1 medias.pdf that the maker of PandemRix, that is used in Sweden, passed a secret contract, the same in every European country, which specified a "Green List" of what the government MAY communicate (hardly anything!) and the "Red List" of what may absolutely NOT be made public, like intermediary results of the side effects that appear in the studies of the controversial squalene (and thiomersal) adjuvantated PandemRix until they have been sanitized by Glaxo Smith Kline researchers, and published by GSK themselves.
These contracts also confirm what was announced in Sweden in October, that these pandemic vaccines where actually ordered already back in 2006: there was a standing order to foresee a vaccination for large parts of the population IF the WHO would declare a PANDEMIC of degree 6. When the "New-Type" A/H1N1 appeared, and it started spreading to other continents, the WHO changed their definition of grade 6 pandemic by dropping the criteria that it should be highly deadly. Thus, the government discovered that it's signed standing orders were passed simply to combat a new (designer!) strain of flu that may or may not become more or less lethal than the common Influenza A or B flu.
This has allowed GSK to do a large scale tolerance experiment of their specialy formulated AVIAN-flu vaccine "Pre-PandRix" paid for by the governments, where doctors are recruited for a large scale pharmaco-vigilance study, without being paid as researchers, and patients receive government propaganda to sign up "to protect the weak in our society", while de facto subjecting themselves to be guinea pigs in this "H1N1-dry-run" study for the future benefit of registering GSK's AVIAN flu vaccine "Pre-PandRix".
If you are to receive the "Pandremix" against the benign "new-type" H1N1-flu this season, we recommend that you first learn about the possible side effects, as GSK asked their own employees to sign an "informed consent form" before receiving the vaccine: see for ex: http://www.asanat.org/Declaration_of_Free_and_Informed_Consent.pdf
These contracts were labeled "secret defense":
These contracts were labeled "secret defense", and we learn a lot about "who is the boss, Government, or Big Pharma?" by reading them! You can still access them here: Keep them on your computer, they are historic!
What I found mind boggling, as a doctor, is to discover Glaxo Smith Kline's "Green List" of what the government MAY communicate (hardly anything!) and the "Red List" of what may absolutely NOT be made public, like intermediary results of the side effects that appear in the studies of the controversial squalene (and thiomersal) adjuvantated PandemRix until they have been sanitized by GSK, and published by GSK themselves.
Conspiracy theories are fun and easy to work with. Just say there is a coverup! Just misrepresent the facts, make a few things up and when someone points out the obvious truth, just say it's part of the coverup!
> Conspiracy theories are fun and easy to work with. Just say there is a > coverup! Just misrepresent the facts, make a few things up and when > someone points out the obvious truth, just say it's part of the coverup!
> Conspiracy theories are fun and easy to work with. Just say there is a > coverup! Just misrepresent the facts, make a few things up and when > someone points out the obvious truth, just say it's part of the coverup!
dr_jeff wrote: > Conspiracy theories are fun and easy to work with. Just say there is a > coverup! Just misrepresent the facts, make a few things up and when > someone points out the obvious truth, just say it's part of the coverup!
> Fortunately, there is no conspiracy.
In Poland, 6 people died of the vaccine, it can be found in Polish press.
Deputy Minister Adam Fronczak health, however, drew attention to the dangers arising from these vaccines. - So far in the country who bought a lot of influenza A/H1N1 vaccine, when administered to patients six people died. 2 immediately after admission, 4 - as the suspects - a few hours after vaccination. Adverse effects were also observed at the 190 nurses who had previously vaccinated against a new flu - he added.
>"dr_jeff" <u...@msu.edu> wrote in message >news:l4adnYCzXL0z-WjXnZ2dnUVZ_sVi4p2d@giganews.com... >> Conspiracy theories are fun and easy to work with. Just say there is a >> coverup! Just misrepresent the facts, make a few things up and when >> someone points out the obvious truth, just say it's part of the coverup!
On Nov 7, 7:14 am, NOT dr_jeff <u...@msu.edu> wrote:
> Conspiracy theories are fun and easy to work with. Just say there is a > coverup! Just misrepresent the facts, make a few things up and when > someone points out the obvious truth, just say it's part of the coverup!
> Fortunately, there is no conspiracy John wrote::
Silence about Vaccine Deaths in Media is Due to the Confidential Contracts with Vaccine Manufacturers
The Flu Case - I am a Swedish general practioner working in Belgium, and quite involved in this issue, as together with three citizens and another GP we advised the Belgian Government last Friday in court that this is a disguised pharmaceutical trial on human subjects, with real risks involved.
I put in two comments on the story (see below), that are quite relevant in the context that the Swedish Newspapers have seemingly stopped reporting the intermediary results of this disguised pharmaceutical trial.
If you can read French, you will discover at http://www.lepoint2.com/sons/pdf/vaccin-H1N1 medias.pdf that the maker of PandemRix, that is used in Sweden, passed a secret contract, the same in every European country, which specified a "Green List" of what the government MAY communicate (hardly anything!) and the "Red List" of what may absolutely NOT be made public, like intermediary results of the side effects that appear in the studies of the controversial squalene (and thiomersal) adjuvantated PandemRix until they have been sanitized by Glaxo Smith Kline researchers, and published by GSK themselves.
These contracts also confirm what was announced in Sweden in October, that these pandemic vaccines where actually ordered already back in 2006: there was a standing order to foresee a vaccination for large parts of the population IF the WHO would declare a PANDEMIC of degree 6. When the "New-Type" A/H1N1 appeared, and it started spreading to other continents, the WHO changed their definition of grade 6 pandemic by dropping the criteria that it should be highly deadly. Thus, the government discovered that it's signed standing orders were passed simply to combat a new (designer!) strain of flu that may or may not become more or less lethal than the common Influenza A or B flu.
This has allowed GSK to do a large scale tolerance experiment of their specialy formulated AVIAN-flu vaccine "Pre-PandRix" paid for by the governments, where doctors are recruited for a large scale pharmaco-vigilance study, without being paid as researchers, and patients receive government propaganda to sign up "to protect the weak in our society", while de facto subjecting themselves to be guinea pigs in this "H1N1-dry-run" study for the future benefit of registering GSK's AVIAN flu vaccine "Pre-PandRix".
If you are to receive the "Pandremix" against the benign "new-type" H1N1-flu this season, we recommend that you first learn about the possible side effects, as GSK asked their own employees to sign an "informed consent form" before receiving the vaccine: see for ex: http://www.asanat.org/Declaration_of_Free_and_Informed_Consent.pdf
These contracts were labeled "secret defense":
These contracts were labeled "secret defense", and we learn a lot about "who is the boss, Government, or Big Pharma?" by reading them! You can still access them here: Keep them on your computer, they are historic!
What I found mind boggling, as a doctor, is to discover Glaxo Smith Kline's "Green List" of what the government MAY communicate (hardly anything!) and the "Red List" of what may absolutely NOT be made public, like intermediary results of the side effects that appear in the studies of the controversial squalene (and thiomersal) adjuvantated PandemRix until they have been sanitized by GSK, and published by GSK themselves.
> >"dr_jeff" <u...@msu.edu> wrote in message > >news:l4adnYCzXL0z-WjXnZ2dnUVZ_sVi4p2d@giganews.com... > >> Conspiracy theories are fun and easy to work with. Just say there is a > >> coverup! Just misrepresent the facts, make a few things up and when > >> someone points out the obvious truth, just say it's part of the coverup!
> dr_jeff wrote: > > Conspiracy theories are fun and easy to work with. Just say there is a > > coverup! Just misrepresent the facts, make a few things up and when > > someone points out the obvious truth, just say it's part of the coverup!
> > Fortunately, there is no conspiracy.
> In Poland, 6 people died of the vaccine, it can be found in Polish press.
> Deputy Minister Adam Fronczak health, however, drew attention to the > dangers arising from these vaccines. - So far in the country who bought > a lot of influenza A/H1N1 vaccine, when administered to patients six > people died. 2 immediately after admission, 4 - as the suspects - a few > hours after vaccination. Adverse effects were also observed at the 190 > nurses who had previously vaccinated against a new flu - he added.
On Nov 7, 6:55 pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Nov 7, 7:14 am, NOT dr_jeff <u...@msu.edu> wrote:
> > Conspiracy theories are fun and easy to work with. Just say there is a > > coverup! Just misrepresent the facts, make a few things up and when > > someone points out the obvious truth, just say it's part of the coverup!
> > Fortunately, there is no conspiracy > John wrote::
On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 15:55:39 -0800 (PST), in misc.health.alternative,
Jan Drew <jdrew63...@aol.com> wrote: >On Nov 7, 7:14?am, NOT dr_jeff <u...@msu.edu> wrote: >> Conspiracy theories are fun and easy to work with. Just say there is a >> coverup! Just misrepresent the facts, make a few things up and when >> someone points out the obvious truth, just say it's part of the coverup!
>Silence about Vaccine Deaths in Media is Due to the Confidential >Contracts >with Vaccine Manufacturers
<Snip>
>If you can read French, you will discover at >http://www.lepoint2.com/sons/pdf/vaccin-H1N1 medias.pdf that the maker >of >PandemRix, that is used in Sweden, passed a secret contract, the same >in >every European country, which specified a "Green List" of what the >government MAY communicate (hardly anything!) and the "Red List" of >what may >absolutely NOT be made public, like intermediary results of the side >effects >that appear in the studies of the controversial squalene (and >thiomersal) >adjuvantated PandemRix until they have been sanitized by Glaxo Smith >Kline >researchers, and published by GSK themselves.
Well it isn't secret is it, if the information about the contract was published?
> "dr_jeff" <u...@msu.edu> wrote in message > news:l4adnYCzXL0z-WjXnZ2dnUVZ_sVi4p2d@giganews.com... >> Conspiracy theories are fun and easy to work with. Just say there is a >> coverup! Just misrepresent the facts, make a few things up and when >> someone points out the obvious truth, just say it's part of the coverup!
> t wrote: > > Please explain why folks should not consider you to be part of a > > "conspiracy"
> The truth.
> > "dr_jeff" <u...@msu.edu> wrote in message > >news:l4adnYCzXL0z-WjXnZ2dnUVZ_sVi4p2d@giganews.com... > >> Conspiracy theories are fun and easy to work with. Just say there is a > >> coverup! Just misrepresent the facts, make a few things up and when > >> someone points out the obvious truth, just say it's part of the coverup!
> >> Fortunately, there is no conspiracy.- Hide quoted text -
Deputy Minister Adam Fronczak health, however, drew attention to the dangers arising from these vaccines. - So far in the country who bought a lot of influenza A/H1N1 vaccine, when administered to patients six people died. 2 immediately after admission, 4 - as the suspects - a few hours after vaccination. Adverse effects were also observed at the 190 nurses who had previously vaccinated against a new flu - he added.
> On Nov 7, 6:55 pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63...@aol.com> wrote:
> > On Nov 7, 7:14 am, NOT dr_jeff <u...@msu.edu> wrote:
> > > Conspiracy theories are fun and easy to work with. Just say there is a > > > coverup! Just misrepresent the facts, make a few things up and when > > > someone points out the obvious truth, just say it's part of the coverup!
> > > Fortunately, there is no conspiracy > > John wrote:: > On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 17:53:10 -0000, in misc.health.alternative, "john" > <nos...@bt.com> wrote: > >"dr_jeff" <u...@msu.edu> wrote in message > >news:l4adnYCzXL0z-WjXnZ2dnUVZ_sVi4p2d@giganews.com... > >> Conspiracy theories are fun and easy to work with. Just say there is a > >> coverup! Just misrepresent the facts, make a few things up and when > >> someone points out the obvious truth, just say it's part of the coverup! > >> Fortunately, there is no conspiracy. > >Oh yeah? Take your pick
1. you can not prove he is a killer. 2. all he has to show the court he has the degree and you're legal toast. End of case and he could walk out with a judgement against you.
>You're one of the last things anybody >would expect to hear the truth from.
Like you are anything like a fountain of truth yourself.
>On Nov 8, 4:53 pm, dr_jeff <u...@msu.edu> wrote: >> t wrote: >> > Please explain why folks should not consider you to be part of a >> > "conspiracy"
>> The truth.
>> > "dr_jeff" <u...@msu.edu> wrote in message >> >news:l4adnYCzXL0z-WjXnZ2dnUVZ_sVi4p2d@giganews.com... >> >> Conspiracy theories are fun and easy to work with. Just say there is a >> >> coverup! Just misrepresent the facts, make a few things up and when >> >> someone points out the obvious truth, just say it's part of the coverup!
>> >> Fortunately, there is no conspiracy.- Hide quoted text -
Jan Drew <jdrew63...@aol.com> wrote: >On Nov 7, 8:53?pm, Mark Probert <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On Nov 7, 1:49?pm, Mike <M...@none.xxx> wrote:
>In Poland, 6 people died of the vaccine, it can be found in Polish >press.
>Deputy Minister Adam Fronczak health, however, drew attention to the >dangers arising from these vaccines. - So far in the country who >bought >a lot of influenza A/H1N1 vaccine, when administered to patients six >people died. 2 immediately after admission, 4 - as the suspects - a >few >hours after vaccination. Adverse effects were also observed at the >190 >nurses who had previously vaccinated against a new flu - he added.
Silence about Vaccine Deaths in Media is Due to the Confidential Contracts with Vaccine Manufacturers
The Flu Case - I am a Swedish general practioner working in Belgium, and quite involved in this issue, as together with three citizens and another GP we advised the Belgian Government last Friday in court that this is a disguised pharmaceutical trial on human subjects, with real risks involved.
I put in two comments on the story (see below), that are quite relevant in the context that the Swedish Newspapers have seemingly stopped reporting the intermediary results of this disguised pharmaceutical trial.
If you can read French, you will discover at http://www.lepoint2.com/sons/pdf/vaccin-H1N1 medias.pdf that the maker of PandemRix, that is used in Sweden, passed a secret contract, the same in every European country, which specified a "Green List" of what the government MAY communicate (hardly anything!) and the "Red List" of what may absolutely NOT be made public, like intermediary results of the side effects that appear in the studies of the controversial squalene (and thiomersal) adjuvantated PandemRix until they have been sanitized by Glaxo Smith Kline researchers, and published by GSK themselves.
These contracts also confirm what was announced in Sweden in October, that these pandemic vaccines where actually ordered already back in 2006: there was a standing order to foresee a vaccination for large parts of the population IF the WHO would declare a PANDEMIC of degree 6. When the "New-Type" A/H1N1 appeared, and it started spreading to other continents, the WHO changed their definition of grade 6 pandemic by dropping the criteria that it should be highly deadly. Thus, the government discovered that it's signed standing orders were passed simply to combat a new (designer!) strain of flu that may or may not become more or less lethal than the common Influenza A or B flu.
This has allowed GSK to do a large scale tolerance experiment of their specialy formulated AVIAN-flu vaccine "Pre-PandRix" paid for by the governments, where doctors are recruited for a large scale pharmaco-vigilance study, without being paid as researchers, and patients receive government propaganda to sign up "to protect the weak in our society", while de facto subjecting themselves to be guinea pigs in this "H1N1-dry-run" study for the future benefit of registering GSK's AVIAN flu vaccine "Pre-PandRix".
If you are to receive the "Pandremix" against the benign "new-type" H1N1-flu this season, we recommend that you first learn about the possible side effects, as GSK asked their own employees to sign an "informed consent form" before receiving the vaccine: see for ex: http://www.asanat.org/Declaration_of_Free_and_Informed_Consent.pdf
These contracts were labeled "secret defense":
These contracts were labeled "secret defense", and we learn a lot about "who is the boss, Government, or Big Pharma?" by reading them! You can still access them here: Keep them on your computer, they are historic!
What I found mind boggling, as a doctor, is to discover Glaxo Smith Kline's "Green List" of what the government MAY communicate (hardly anything!) and the "Red List" of what may absolutely NOT be made public, like intermediary results of the side effects that appear in the studies of the controversial squalene (and thiomersal) adjuvantated PandemRix until they have been sanitized by GSK, and published by GSK themselves.
> On Nov 7, 8:54 pm, Mark Probert <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Nov 7, 6:55 pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > On Nov 7, 7:14 am, NOT dr_jeff <u...@msu.edu> wrote:
> > > > Conspiracy theories are fun and easy to work with. Just say there is a > > > > coverup! Just misrepresent the facts, make a few things up and when > > > > someone points out the obvious truth, just say it's part of the coverup!
> > > > Fortunately, there is no conspiracy > > > John wrote:: > > On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 17:53:10 -0000, in misc.health.alternative, "john" > > <nos...@bt.com> wrote: > > >"dr_jeff" <u...@msu.edu> wrote in message > > >news:l4adnYCzXL0z-WjXnZ2dnUVZ_sVi4p2d@giganews.com... > > >> Conspiracy theories are fun and easy to work with. Just say there is a > > >> coverup! Just misrepresent the facts, make a few things up and when > > >> someone points out the obvious truth, just say it's part of the coverup! > > >> Fortunately, there is no conspiracy. > > >Oh yeah? Take your pick
>t wrote: >> Please explain why folks should not consider you to be part of a >> "conspiracy"
> The truth.
>> "dr_jeff" <u...@msu.edu> wrote in message >> news:l4adnYCzXL0z-WjXnZ2dnUVZ_sVi4p2d@giganews.com... >>> Conspiracy theories are fun and easy to work with. Just say there is a >>> coverup! Just misrepresent the facts, make a few things up and when >>> someone points out the obvious truth, just say it's part of the coverup!
>>> Fortunately, there is no conspiracy.
You will need to be more convincing than that. Why should anyone believe that what you say is the "truth"?