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Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:51:52 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Reports of miscarriages resulting from the H1N1 vaccine shot

http://labvirus.wordpress.com/2009/11/06/reports-of-miscarriages-resu...

Reports of miscarriages resulting from the H1N1 vaccine shot
November 6, 2009 at 7:00 pm (Uncategorized)
Tags: h1n1 bird flu birdflu swine flu swineflu h5n1 pandemic ott
deagle eisenstein cassel vaclib nvic dissent resistance vaccine
vaccination toxic adjuvants mf-59 squalene genocide who cdc nih
globalists ge

[this completely breaks my heart. i am so sad for all those would-be
mothers and their unborn children. thanks to Wayne Prante of
FalseFlagFlu.com for passing this along. -ed]

Some Pregnant Women Fearful of H1N1 Vaccine
Miscarriage / Pregnancy Loss Blog

By Krissi Danielsson, About.com Guide to Miscarriage / Pregnancy Loss
Tuesday September 29, 2009

An article in Minneapolis Star Tribune reports on how some pregnant
women are skeptical of the new H1N1 vaccine. Pregnant women are among
the groups strongly advised to get the vaccine, but many women are
less than thrilled about the idea of getting the shot, reporting
concerns about the safety of the vaccine and possible effects for the
unborn baby.

I can definitely see where they are coming from, being someone who was
concerned about safety of pretty much everything when I was pregnant.
And there’s not much research on the safety of any type of flu vaccine
during the first trimester, much less thimerosal exposure in the first
trimester, although the CDC says that flu vaccination is advisable in
any trimester during a pandemic. Still, there are definite risks to
catching the flu during pregnancy also — and pregnant women seem to be
at higher risk of having severe complications (including death) from
H1N1 flu in particular. As with most cases, all you can really do is
weigh the risks and benefits of both courses of action and discuss
your concerns with your doctor — then make an informed choice on how
to proceed.
What are your thoughts? Do you plan to get the H1N1 flu vaccine,
especially if you are currently pregnant or hope to become pregnant in
the near future? Vote here.

Comments (from readers)

October 9, 2009 at 2:41 pm
(1) Jo says: I got the flu vaccine (regular not H1N1) at 8 weeks
pregnant. Three days later I miscarried. I am not going to get the
H1N1.

October 26, 2009 at 11:07 am
(2) Regrets says:
I got both vaccines on Thursday. I was 9 weeks pregnant. I miscarried
on Sunday. I was told by several doctors to get these vaccines. Now I
wish I followed my gut feeling and not get them at ALL!

October 29, 2009 at 8:33 am
(3) :( says: i work in a hospital like setting and was told ‘the
benefits outweigh the risks” 1am i got the vaccine, 3am i started
bleeding and craming, 3pm miscarried. you decide

October 31, 2009 at 1:29 pm

(4) sue says: I had the H1N1 vaccination and 24 hours later had a
miscarriage.

October 31, 2009 at 8:25 pm
(5) Linda Hill says: My daughter in law was 10 weeks pregnant and had
the H1N1 vaccine on Friday that night she miscarried.

http://miscarriage.about.com/gi/pages/poll.htm?linkback=&poll_id=4231...

Poll Results
About Poll
Would or Will You Get the H1N1 Swine Flu Vaccination During
Pregnancy?
Yes, without reservations.
 (11)  3%
Yes. I'm concerned about the safety but the flu scares me more than
the vaccine.
 (44)  12%
No, I will not be getting the vaccine.
 (256)  70%
I'm not sure.
 (53)  14%
Total Votes: 364


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From: "Peter B-Aboriginal" <origin...@i-frag.com>
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:42:21 -0800
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Subject: Re: Reports of miscarriages resulting from the H1N1 vaccine shot

"Jan Drew" <jdrew63...@aol.com> wrote in message

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http://labvirus.
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Keyword again, Possibly.

Reports improvable and hearsay. But take them as a positive, k?

5 cites possible miscarriage after preggie
1000 cites no problem with preggie mom.

Then what do you do? Given that it is a possible pandemic, pregnant mom
gets the flu, gives it to her children who then die, gives it to her
husband who goes near death, gives it to her parents and parents in law
and one parent from each side dies. Gives the flu to others around her
and 25% of those people die, who give it to others and so on and so on.

Now, given that you know the probable/possible outcome should the
pregnant mom take the "shot"?

Save one life or save hundreds?

Be reasonable if you can.


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From: Mike <M...@none.xxx>
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 21:48:24 -0500
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Subject: Official information about H1N1 vaccine and pregnancy
In short: Guinea pigs are desperately needed.

Nasal spray (FluMist)
http://www.fda.gov/downloads/BiologicsBloodVaccines/Vaccines/Approved...

Animal reproduction studies have not been conducted with Influenza A
(H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine Live, Intranasal or FluMist. It is not
known whether Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine Live,
Intranasal or FluMist can cause fetal harm when administered to a
pregnant woman or can affect reproduction capacity. Influenza A
(H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine Live, Intranasal or FluMist should be
given to a pregnant woman only if clearly needed.

Injectable from CSL:
http://www.fda.gov/downloads/BiologicsBloodVaccines/Vaccines/Approved...

8.1 Pregnancy
Pregnancy Category C: Animal reproduction studies have not been
conducted with Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine or AFLURIA.
It is also not known whether these vaccines can cause fetal harm when
administered to a pregnant woman or can affect reproduction capacity.
Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine should be given to a pregnant
woman only if clearly needed.
8.3 Nursing Mothers
Neither Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine nor AFLURIA has been
evaluated in nursing mothers. It is not known whether Influenza A (H1N1)
2009 Monovalent Vaccine or AFLURIA is excreted in human milk. Because
many drugs are excreted in human milk, caution should be exercised when
Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine is administered to a nursing
woman.
8.4 Pediatric Use
Neither Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine nor AFLURIA has been
evaluated in children. Safety and effectiveness in the pediatric
population have not been established.

Injectable from Sanofi Pasteur:
http://www.fda.gov/downloads/biologicsbloodvaccines/vaccines/approved...

8.1. Pregnancy
Pregnancy Category C: Animal reproduction studies have not been
conducted with Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine or Fluzone
vaccine. It is also not known whether these vaccines can cause fetal
harm when administered to a pregnant woman or can affect reproduction
capacity. Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine should be given to
a pregnant woman only if clearly needed.
8.3. Nursing Mothers
It is not known whether Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine or
Fluzone vaccine is excreted in human milk. Because many drugs are
excreted in human milk, caution should be exercised when this vaccine is
administered to a nursing woman.


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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:28:04 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Reports of miscarriages resulting from the H1N1 vaccine shot
On Nov 8, 5:42 pm, "Peter B-Aboriginal" <origin...@i-frag.com> wrote:

What statistics are you looking at to find a 25% death rate from
getting the swine flu?  From my understanding, unless you are in a
high risk factor group, the sympoms are not any worse than the regular
flu.

Show me a population anywhere that currently is experiencing the swine
flu where there has been a 25% death rate.  Definately not here in the
USA...


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Subject: Re: Official information about H1N1 vaccine and pregnancy
On Nov 8, 6:48 pm, Mike <M...@none.xxx> wrote:

With so many 'unknowns' how can any vaccine company the cdc, who or
any other gov't agency claim these vaccines have been tested and are
safe?

Population control through vaccine????  Why not become like China and
regulate how many children people can have?  It would be a lot safer
than f-cking around with the immune system via vaccines.  I'm not sure
I buy all this conspiracy theory crap anyway.  But, I guess almost
anything is possible.

It all just sounds a little too far fetched for me.


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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:40:09 -0800 (PST)
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> Population control through vaccine????  Why not become like China and
> regulate how many children people can have?  It would be a lot safer
> than f-cking around with the immune system via vaccines.  I'm not sure
> I buy all this conspiracy theory crap anyway.  But, I guess almost
> anything is possible.

> It all just sounds a little too far fetched for me.-

We are still a "Christian" Nation, I dont believe forced abortions
would go over very well in this country, or forced sterilization.

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Subject: Re: Reports of miscarriages resulting from the H1N1 vaccine shot

This scenario is pure fiction, especially 25% part.

Pandemic my a**. WHO changed the official definition of this word just
before declaring the pandemic. According to the previous definition
of pandemic the disease had to cause massive illness and death. Now it
would suffice to be present worldwide and cause more cases than normal.

Meanwhile, in Poland there were 193 cases of H1N1 flu with no
fatalities (as of 2 days ago). But 6 people died from the vaccine.


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On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:40:09 -0800 (PST), in misc.health.alternative,

Kevysmom <kevysmo...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> Population control through vaccine????  Why not become like China and
>> regulate how many children people can have?  It would be a lot safer
>> than f-cking around with the immune system via vaccines.  I'm not sure
>> I buy all this conspiracy theory crap anyway.  But, I guess almost
>> anything is possible.

>> It all just sounds a little too far fetched for me.-

>We are still a "Christian" Nation, I dont believe forced abortions

Sorry toots. we were never a 'christian' nation.
you need to read a bit more history before you make such a stupid
statement.

It is actually stated in a ratified Treaty that we are not a
christian nation.

>would go over very well in this country, or forced sterilization.

--
Bob Officer
Posting the truth
http://www.skeptics.com.au

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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:49:35 -0800
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Subject: Re: Reports of miscarriages resulting from the H1N1 vaccine shot

"mindy" <usrc...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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On Nov 8, 5:42 pm, "Peter B-Aboriginal" <origin...@i-frag.com> wrote:

What statistics are you looking at to find a 25% death rate from
getting the swine flu?  From my understanding, unless you are in a
high risk factor group, the sympoms are not any worse than the regular
flu.

Show me a population anywhere that currently is experiencing the swine
flu where there has been a 25% death rate.  Definately not here in the
USA...
=====================================================
Why didn't you answer my question?


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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:52:35 -0800
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Subject: Re: Reports of miscarriages resulting from the H1N1 vaccine shot

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Say anything but avoid answering the question, eh?

No one died from the vaccine yet, but you would rather believe hearsay
and bs.

Answer my question, that was all I asked.


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 Damn! Bob, what are you doing? Why do you think that it is OK for you to be
correct?  Now what? Are you going to change everything and be right now?

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 Peter, why do you hate women?

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 Pertr, why do you want so many to be hurt and killed ?

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Subject: Re: Reports of miscarriages resulting from the H1N1 vaccine shot

http://wiadomosci.wp.pl/kat,1342,title,6-osob-zmarlo-po-podaniu-szcze...

Google translation:
***********************************************************************
Deputy Minister Adam Fronczak health, however, drew attention to the
dangers arising from these vaccines. - So far in the country who bought
a lot of influenza A/H1N1 vaccine, when administered to patients six
people died. 2 immediately after admission, 4 - as the suspects - a few
hours after vaccination. Adverse effects were also observed at the 190
nurses who had previously vaccinated against a new flu - he added.
***********************************************************************

So, it is NOT hearsay and bs. Death is a possible side effect.

> Answer my question, that was all I asked.

Your question was: what should be done if the mortality were 25% and
your scenario were possible? Since this is fiction this question is
moronic and does not deserve an answer.

In the current situation, women should be informed that it is not known
whether H1N1 vaccine can inflict fetal harm or affect reproduction
capacity. Then they can make decisions for themselves.


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You've a twisted mind, pervert

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:21:25 -0800
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You are far more closed minded that I thought. Given your rational one
day you will die as a direct result of it, or someone in your family.

> In the current situation, women should be informed that it is not
> known
> whether H1N1 vaccine can inflict fetal harm or affect reproduction
> capacity. Then they can make decisions for themselves.

Based on what, fear? I am sorry that you are so prejudiced. Assuming you
are over 21 years old I hope you realize the consequences of your
actions without affecting the lives of others.

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:42:54 -0800 (PST)
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> Sorry toots. we were never a 'christian' nation.
> you need to read a bit more history before you make such a stupid
> statement.

> It is actually stated in a ratified Treaty that we are not a
> christian nation.

> >would go over very well in this country, or forced sterilization.

> --
> Bob Officer
> Posting the truthhttp://www.skeptics.com.au

The USA is considered a "Christian" Nation.

Printed on our money it says, In God we trust

Our Pledge of Allegiance

"One Nation under God"

Sorry to prove you wrong, Bobby! :o)


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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:50:12 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Reports of miscarriages resulting from the H1N1 vaccine shot
I allowed my disabled son to have the H1N1 vaccine

why?

Because, on my support group with disabled children, we lost three
kids in one weekend from the swine flu and are on average losing one
child a week.

Our disabled children are not handling this swine flu well at all. and
if I didn't get my son the vaccine and he died, I wouldnt be able to
live with myself.

It could have been the tamiflu that is killing the kids on my support
group, I dont know.

I just know our kids are on heavy duty drugs to prevent life
threatening seizures. (we had one young child pass away last week from
the seizures) Maybe its a combination of tamiflu and the seizure
medications...


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From: Mark Thorson <nos...@sonic.net>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:04:22 -0800
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Subject: Re: Reports of miscarriages resulting from the H1N1 vaccine shot

Kevysmom wrote:

> I allowed my disabled son to have the H1N1 vaccine

> why?

> Because, on my support group with disabled children, we lost three
> kids in one weekend from the swine flu and are on average losing one
> child a week.

That's out of how many children total?

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From: Kevysmom <kevysmo...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:09:37 -0800 (PST)
Local: Wed, Nov 11 2009 5:09 pm
Subject: Re: Reports of miscarriages resulting from the H1N1 vaccine shot

> > I allowed my disabled son to have the H1N1 vaccine

> > why?

> > Because, on my support group with disabled children, we lost three
> > kids in one weekend from the swine flu and are on average losing one
> > child a week.

> That's out of how many children total?

It started in Sept.

we have lost I think eight children.

Our kids are severe/profoundy disabled on heavy duty drugs for
seizures.

They died quickly, one day at the ER having chest X Rays coming back
negative, sent home, Next day back in the ER, lungs are full and then
within hours they are gone.

Im a Mom, I cant take that chance with my son.


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From: "Peter B-Aboriginal" <origin...@i-frag.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:24:48 -0800
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Subject: Re: Reports of miscarriages resulting from the H1N1 vaccine shot

"Kevysmom" <kevysmo...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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You're not just a mom, you're a loving mom who cares for what's best
when the chips are down.
You did the right thing and have nothing to be ashamed of.

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From: "Peter B-Aboriginal" <origin...@i-frag.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:26:52 -0800
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Subject: Re: Official information about H1N1 vaccine and pregnancy

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President Obama says it is not a Christian Nation.


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From: Mark Thorson <nos...@sonic.net>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:00:35 -0800
Local: Wed, Nov 11 2009 6:00 pm
Subject: Re: Reports of miscarriages resulting from the H1N1 vaccine shot

Kevysmom wrote:

> > That's out of how many children total?

> It started in Sept.

> we have lost I think eight children.

I meant, how many children total in the group,
infected or not.  Are we talking 8 out of 1000
or 8 out of 10,000 or what?

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