Adam McLeod, known as the DreamHealer, has filed a DMCA with Terry Polevoy's ISP, Blue Host. Naturally BlueHost has pulled the plug on all of Polevoy's hatesites and Polevoy can be found throughout usenet complaining that Adam and BluHost are conspiring to interfere with his right to freedom of speech? Right to freedom of speech? Polevoy sites have been down for 2 weeks and counting!
What Polevoy will never get is his right to freedom of speech includes accountability. He believes he can say and do whatever he wants from his twisted vigilante perspective.
As all this unfolds, Polevoy is in front of a Canadian court attempting to defend seizure orders in the Ilena Rosenthal judgement; a judgment where he and Barrett of Quackwatch were awarded the luxury of having to pay Rosenthal's fees of $500,000.00.
Polevoy has also initiated a suit naming Christopher Grell as defendant. Grell is the Californian legal counsel to Polevoy and Barrett, who finessed the substantial losses on behalf of Polevoy and Barrett in the SLAPP suite against Roenthal.
Rumour has it Polevoy is attemtping to pull up stakes and move on.... Plop, plop, fizz fizz.....
Why doesn't this anonymous poster who uses offshore accounts tell us who he is?
Previous Nomen Nescio posts have been from Bill cancer quack O'Neill.
There is no conspiracy here. Bluehost has acted out of frustration with the frivolouos and vexacious attacks by Adam McLeod. They don't want to take a stand against cancer quackery.
I suggest that those of you who need to be reminded about this check out these sites and the links below:
> Adam McLeod, known as the DreamHealer, has filed a DMCA > withTerryPolevoy'sISP, Blue Host. Naturally BlueHost > has pulled the plug on all of Polevoy'shatesites and Polevoycan be found throughout usenet complaining that > Adam and BluHost are conspiring to interfere with his > right to freedom of speech? Right to freedom of speech?Polevoy sites have been down for 2 weeks and counting!
On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:47:43 +0200 (CEST), Nomen Nescio
<nob...@dizum.com> wrote: >Adam McLeod, known as the DreamHealer, has filed a DMCA >with Terry Polevoy's ISP, Blue Host. Naturally BlueHost >has pulled the plug on all of Polevoy's hatesites and
< snip >
Ah, Mr O'Neill. Back again? Why keep up the charade with the pseudonym? We all know who you are.
I just looked under "hypocrisy" and "quack" and "chutzpah" and all 3 had your photos!
Terry Polevoy posted:
"Why doesn't this anonymous poster who uses offshore accounts tell us who he is?
There is no conspiracy here. Bluehost has acted out of frustration with the frivolouos and vexacious attacks by Adam McLeod."
Whoa!
Adam and his family would never have known your name had you not spent the last several years attacking and taking away all privacy from this family. YOU, Polevoy are the one making vexacious attacks on Adam ... not the other way around!
What that family has had to do to protect Adam from YOU and your incessant and unnatural obsession with him led to you having your website taken down justifiably. How many blogs and sites did you have with Adam's name on it? It's twisted Polevoy!
And the ultimate hypocrisy is your grifting (YOUR term) and hustling to sell Adam's work on your sites AFTER slamming him and attributing to him fantasies in your warped mind. Shameless!
YOU, Polevoy, (or should we call you "Vera Teasdale" as you called yourself in over 50 posts attacking Dr Clark and myself, anonymous and in disguise) call falsely call yourself a 'consumer advocate' when in fact you are a Vaccination / Pharmaceutical pusher and ignore the damage done to millions by these drugs you push. You scream and attack homeopathy, while thousands of children fall ill after their shots that you falsely claim are safe!
YOU, who now owes over $350,000 to me for my attorneys fees and whose attack website tells a false history of your failed case against me ... brought all of this on yourself by YOUR vexacious attacks against Ms McPhee. YOU are the one who wages email and phone campaigns and gathers others on your healthfraud list to attack doctors and scientists and advocates raising awarness to the dangers of vaccinations and other pharmaceuticals and med devices.
YOU are the King of vexacious attacks & threats. Before and during your failed SLAPP suit against me ... YOU are on record with threatening many people with lawsuits who dared to post anything about you and your attacks on health lovers like myself.
YOU went on national television bragging how you were going to give the real name and address of Adam ... then just a teenager. YOU, in my very humble opinion, showed signs of unnatural perverse attention toward young Adam.
More to come ...
PS: I was just kidding about the photos ... I do believe Terry Polevoy personifies perfectly those three terms however.
Try a Google search for Dreamhealer and see who comes up number ONE.
My oh my, you don't give up.
I don't owe you one red cent Ilena. You are a liar, and always have been, especially when it come to legal issues. You signed over your lawsuit to the dragoons of lawyers who are now the potential beneficiaries of a few dollars in the future.
Dreamhealer, Inc. has tried to close down not only my web sites a number of times, they have also threatened others because they fear that people will find out that they are nothing more than grifters, not healers.
Cancer quack Hulda Clark died of cancer, or don't you read? Why couldn't she cure herself? Why did she evidently avoid the appropriate early treatment for her anemia, hypercalcemia and eventual multiple myeloma. Why did Tim Bolen not tell the world about her cancer?
Business as usual in your neck of the woods Ilena ? I hope that when H1N1 enters your neighborhood you stay inside and away from those who are spreading this deadly pandemic. I forgot, you live in a world where your blinders prevent you from seeing what the real world sees.
Obama says that it's a NATIONAL EMERGENCY in your country. But, then again I don't know where you live. Maybe your former lawyer knows this.
Have a great day in your world. I'm glad you're not part of mine.
I just looked under "hypocrisy" and "quack" and "chutzpah" and all 3 had your photos!
Terry Polevoy posted:
"Why doesn't this anonymous poster who uses offshore accounts tell us who he is?
There is no conspiracy here. Bluehost has acted out of frustration with the frivolouos and vexacious attacks by Adam McLeod."
Whoa!
Adam and his family would never have known your name had you not spent the last several years attacking and taking away all privacy from this family. YOU, Polevoy are the one making vexacious attacks on Adam ... not the other way around!
What that family has had to do to protect Adam from YOU and your incessant and unnatural obsession with him led to you having your website taken down justifiably. How many blogs and sites did you have with Adam's name on it? It's twisted Polevoy!
And the ultimate hypocrisy is your grifting (YOUR term) and hustling to sell Adam's work on your sites AFTER slamming him and attributing to him fantasies in your warped mind. Shameless!
YOU, Polevoy, (or should we call you "Vera Teasdale" as you called yourself in over 50 posts attacking Dr Clark and myself, anonymous and in disguise) call falsely call yourself a 'consumer advocate' when in fact you are a Vaccination / Pharmaceutical pusher and ignore the damage done to millions by these drugs you push. You scream and attack homeopathy, while thousands of children fall ill after their shots that you falsely claim are safe!
YOU, who now owes over $350,000 to me for my attorneys fees and whose attack website tells a false history of your failed case against me ... brought all of this on yourself by YOUR vexacious attacks against Ms McPhee. YOU are the one who wages email and phone campaigns and gathers others on your healthfraud list to attack doctors and scientists and advocates raising awarness to the dangers of vaccinations and other pharmaceuticals and med devices.
YOU are the King of vexacious attacks & threats. Before and during your failed SLAPP suit against me ... YOU are on record with threatening many people with lawsuits who dared to post anything about you and your attacks on health lovers like myself.
YOU went on national television bragging how you were going to give the real name and address of Adam ... then just a teenager. YOU, in my very humble opinion, showed signs of unnatural perverse attention toward young Adam.
More to come ...
PS: I was just kidding about the photos ... I do believe Terry Polevoy personifies perfectly those three terms however.
> I just looked under "hypocrisy" and "quack" and "chutzpah" and all 3 > had your photos!
> Terry Polevoy posted:
> "Why doesn't this anonymous poster who uses offshore accounts tell us > who he is?
> There is no conspiracy here. Bluehost has acted out of frustration > with the frivolouos and vexacious attacks by Adam McLeod."
> Whoa!
> Adam and his family would never have known your name had you not spent > the last several years attacking and taking away all privacy from this > family. YOU, Polevoy are the one making vexacious attacks on Adam ... > not the other way around!
> What that family has had to do to protect Adam from YOU and your > incessant and unnatural obsession with him led to you having your > website taken down justifiably. How many blogs and sites did you have > with Adam's name on it? It's twisted Polevoy!
> And the ultimate hypocrisy is your grifting (YOUR term) and hustling > to sell Adam's work on your sites AFTER slamming him and attributing > to him fantasies in your warped mind. Shameless!
> YOU, Polevoy, (or should we call you "Vera Teasdale" as you called > yourself in over 50 posts attacking Dr Clark and myself, anonymous and > in disguise) call falsely call yourself a 'consumer advocate' when in > fact you are a Vaccination / Pharmaceutical pusher and ignore the > damage done to millions by these drugs you push. You scream and attack > homeopathy, while thousands of children fall ill after their shots > that you falsely claim are safe!
> YOU, who now owes over $350,000 to me for my attorneys fees and whose > attack website tells a false history of your failed case against me > ... brought all of this on yourself by YOUR vexacious attacks against > Ms McPhee. YOU are the one who wages email and phone campaigns and > gathers others on your healthfraud list to attack doctors and > scientists and advocates raising awarness to the dangers of > vaccinations and other pharmaceuticals and med devices.
> YOU are the King of vexacious attacks & threats. Before and during > your failed SLAPP suit against me ... YOU are on record with > threatening many people with lawsuits who dared to post anything about > you and your attacks on health lovers like myself.
> YOU went on national television bragging how you were going to give > the real name and address of Adam ... then just a teenager. YOU, in my > very humble opinion, showed signs of unnatural perverse attention > toward young Adam.
> More to come ...
> PS: I was just kidding about the photos ... I do believe Terry > Polevoy personifies perfectly those three terms however.
Internet Defamation Lawsuit Is Dismissed Courts: Some say judge's decision extends free-speech protections to ordinary users. By MEG JAMES TIMES STAFF WRITER
July 31 2001
A judge in Northern California has thrown out a defamation lawsuit against a San Diego woman whose Internet postings included derogatory comments about two doctors--a ruling that some lawyers say extends free-speech protections to ordinary users of the Internet.
Free-speech advocates said Monday that Alameda County Superior Court Judge James A. Richman's ruling probably will provide a road map for higher courts grappling with the boundaries of acceptable speech on the Internet.
"Boundaries of permissible public discourse have evolved significantly in the last half-century," Richman wrote last week in his 27-page ruling. "This is an extremely important decision," said Ann Brick, an American Civil Liberties Union attorney in San Francisco. "The judge was right in saying that the Internet is a 'free-wheeling and highly animated exchange' of ideas. And you don't want to hold ordinary people, who are engaged in this discussion, to the same standards or restrictions that you would hold a sophisticated publishing house or a newspaper."
Stephen J. Barrett, a retired psychiatrist from Allentown, Pa., who runs "Quackwatch" and a Canadian doctor, Terry Polevoy, sued several individuals, including Ilena Rosenthal, for defamation after the two camps clashed on the efficacy of alternative medicine.
"Quackwatch" is a 32-year-old nonprofit organization to "combat health- related frauds, myths, fads and fallacies." It focuses on distributing information "that is difficult or impossible to get elsewhere." Its Web site was launched in 1996.
Rosenthal runs an Internet support group for women who have had problems with breast implants. In postings on Internet news groups, Rosenthal called Barrett and Polevoy "quacks," and that Barrett was "arrogant" and a "bully" who tried to "extort" her.
She also posted a message to a newsgroup that said, "Quackwatch appears to be a power-hungry, misguided bunch of pseudoscientific socialistic bigots," among other things.
Richman dismissed the libel and defamation claims against Rosenthal in part because the doctors were public figures and with only limited protection under libel laws.
The judge also found that Rosenthal was not liable for the comments of others that she posted on news groups. He found that Rosenthal, "is not the publisher or speaker" of statements made by a third person," and thus "she cannot be civilly liable for posting it on the Internet."
Richman based the decision on the 5-year-old federal Communications Decency Act, which provides immunity to Internet service providers and "users."
Brick and other attorneys said there have been several high-profile cases involving Internet service providers, such as America Online, but this was one of the first cases--if not the first--that extends the same protections to ordinary users.
"This revolutionizes the law on defamation" as it applies to republishing commentary on the Internet, said Mark Goldowitz, an Oakland attorney who represents Rosenthal.
Christopher E. Grell, an Oakland attorney handling the case for Barrett and Polevoy, said they disagree with Richman's ruling and would appeal.
"He's extending immunity to where Congress never intended it to go," Grell said. "This was meant to protect the innocent users, but the judge is granting immunity to someone who, without trying to investigate or check the facts, republishes false information. This basically cancels out libel law where it currently exists."
Terry Polevoy, who lost his SLAPP suit to me in the Supreme Court of Califiornia and has been attempting to change history before, during and after that ruling ... made this false statement, on October 24, 2009:
Terry Polevoy: "I don't owe you one red cent Ilena."
Well Terror ... I guess I'll have to post the July 17, 2009 "minutes of settlement" and the "judgement" which says otherwise. You lost to me in Ontario and it discusses garnishment of your wages. YOU, not me, are lying to the public yet again. The amounts mentioned are close to $360,000 so far.
Because you are bold faced lying again about your losses, I will put these documents on the web. The one you have on your website bears no resemblance to the outcome of your losing case against me.
I can also let the courts see what you are saying publicly about the judgement you owe and the agreements you made and your public claims that you owe me nothing.
You are a frightening, obsessive man, out of touch with reality ... when young Adam was just a teenager you showed an unnatural addiction to knowing everything you could about him.
YOU are the grifter not he. YOU are trying to make money off of his work ... and it was YOU, not he, who forced him to have to defend himself from a 60 year old man's mad obsession with a beautiful, spiritfilled young man. I saw that you even wrote his university trying to make trouble for him recently ... and misrepresented his education.
You would be pitiful if you weren't so frightening ... even in this post you are obsessing about my physical whereabouts again ... something that you have no need to know. I don't believe you have boundaries or the good sense to admit your defeat and stop your attacks and obsessions about people.
YOU obsess about Adam's finances ... while you promote dangerous vaccinations that harm scores of thousands and are potentially deadly to many and the Vaccination Mafia (thanks for that term to Aribert Deckers, one of your Healthfraud promoters) makes billions. You are NO consumer advocate ... you advocate dangerous drugs and deadly chemotherapy.
The amount of harm you and the other Snake-oil Vigilantes do in incalculable .... how many people suffer through months of chemotherapy to die a painful death anyway?
WoW Terry the Terror! No disguises this time! One point for your side!
I just looked under "hypocrisy" and "quack" and "chutzpah" and all 3 had your photos!
Terry Polevoy posted:
"Why doesn't this anonymous poster who uses offshore accounts tell us who he is?
There is no conspiracy here. Bluehost has acted out of frustration with the frivolouos and vexacious attacks by Adam McLeod."
Whoa!
Adam and his family would never have known your name had you not spent the last several years attacking and taking away all privacy from this family. YOU, Polevoy are the one making vexacious attacks on Adam ... not the other way around!
What that family has had to do to protect Adam from YOU and your incessant and unnatural obsession with him led to you having your website taken down justifiably. How many blogs and sites did you have with Adam's name on it? It's twisted Polevoy!
And the ultimate hypocrisy is your grifting (YOUR term) and hustling to sell Adam's work on your sites AFTER slamming him and attributing to him fantasies in your warped mind. Shameless!
YOU, Polevoy, (or should we call you "Vera Teasdale" as you called yourself in over 50 posts attacking Dr Clark and myself, anonymous and in disguise) call falsely call yourself a 'consumer advocate' when in fact you are a Vaccination / Pharmaceutical pusher and ignore the damage done to millions by these drugs you push. You scream and attack homeopathy, while thousands of children fall ill after their shots that you falsely claim are safe!
YOU, who now owes over $350,000 to me for my attorneys fees and whose attack website tells a false history of your failed case against me ... brought all of this on yourself by YOUR vexacious attacks against Ms McPhee. YOU are the one who wages email and phone campaigns and gathers others on your healthfraud list to attack doctors and scientists and advocates raising awarness to the dangers of vaccinations and other pharmaceuticals and med devices.
YOU are the King of vexacious attacks & threats. Before and during your failed SLAPP suit against me ... YOU are on record with threatening many people with lawsuits who dared to post anything about you and your attacks on health lovers like myself.
YOU went on national television bragging how you were going to give the real name and address of Adam ... then just a teenager. YOU, in my very humble opinion, showed signs of unnatural perverse attention toward young Adam.
More to come ...
PS: I was just kidding about the photos ... I do believe Terry Polevoy personifies perfectly those three terms however.
Sorry to disappoint you Ilena but you have really missed the point. You get NOTHING from any potential judgment. You were told that part of the deal is that you shut up. Let's wait until the cases are really over.
Until then, I suggest that you stop all of your nonsense before it blows up in your face. As far as your comments about the scammer that you idolize, you must have been given all of the knowledge of the universe by a 4 foot tall black bird, too.
On Nov 3, 8:33 pm, T Polevoy <drt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sorry to disappoint you Ilena but you have really missed the point. > You get NOTHING from any potential judgment. > You were told that part of the deal is that you shut up. > Let's wait until the cases are really over.
Hi Ilena Good luck with that vermin Polevoy. When you read this guys posts it doesn't take long to understand that he truly has mental issues. Evil people usually get what they deserve. I can't wait.
On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 08:13:46 -0800 (PST), dreamhealer
<h...@dreamhealer.com> wrote: >On Nov 3, 8:33 pm, T Polevoy <drt...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Sorry to disappoint you Ilena but you have really missed the point. >> You get NOTHING from any potential judgment. >> You were told that part of the deal is that you shut up. >> Let's wait until the cases are really over.
>Hi Ilena >Good luck with that vermin Polevoy. When you read this guys posts it >doesn't take long to understand that he truly has mental issues. Evil people >usually get what they deserve. I can't wait.
Wait for what? For what you deserve? Why would you look forward to that, it should be horrible!
> On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 08:13:46 -0800 (PST), dreamhealer
> <h...@dreamhealer.com> wrote: > >On Nov 3, 8:33 pm, T Polevoy <drt...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Sorry to disappoint you Ilena but you have really missed the point. > >> You get NOTHING from any potential judgment. > >> You were told that part of the deal is that you shut up. > >> Let's wait until the cases are really over.
> >Hi Ilena > >Good luck with that vermin Polevoy. When you read this guys posts it > >doesn't take long to understand that he truly has mental issues. Evil people > >usually get what they deserve. I can't wait.
> Wait for what? For what you deserve? Why would you look forward to > that, it should be horrible!
Read Martin Rady.
Good luck with that vermin Polevoy. When you read this guys posts it doesn't take long to understand that he truly has mental issues. Evil people usually get what they deserve. I can't wait.
What part of that do you not understand? Oh, that's right you borrow the habit of asking questions from gang member Peter Bow-itch.
Not surprised you are in misery. Wait til you see Jesus Christ coming in the clouds of glory. Then, you will be in misery
> On Nov 4, 2:03 pm, Martin <n...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 08:13:46 -0800 (PST), dreamhealer
> > <h...@dreamhealer.com> wrote: > > >On Nov 3, 8:33 pm, T Polevoy <drt...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> Sorry to disappoint you Ilena but you have really missed the point. > > >> You get NOTHING from any potential judgment. > > >> You were told that part of the deal is that you shut up. > > >> Let's wait until the cases are really over.
> > >Hi Ilena > > >Good luck with that vermin Polevoy. When you read this guys posts it > > >doesn't take long to understand that he truly has mental issues. Evil people > > >usually get what they deserve. I can't wait.
> > Wait for what? For what you deserve? Why would you look forward to > > that, it should be horrible!
> Read Martin Rady.
> Good luck with that vermin Polevoy. When you read this guys posts it > doesn't take long to understand that he truly has mental issues. Evil > people > usually get what they deserve. I can't wait.
> What part of that do you not understand? > Oh, that's right you borrow the habit of asking questions from gang > member Peter Bow-itch.
> Not surprised you are in misery. Wait til you see Jesus Christ coming > in the clouds of glory. Then, you will be in misery-
What exactly do you see in my picture? Maybe I can send you a portrait that you can hang on your outhouse door when you go to Nootka Island to visit your giant birdy friends.
I suggest taking a video camera next time so we can listen to it cackling at you and your family.
I hope that the next million that you earn will be earned honestly. Grifting is such a lousy way to earn a living.
Sure Terror ... please post the quotation from the Court where I said I wouldn't defend myself against the lies you and Aribert Deckers and Bob Baratz have posted about this case?
And Frank ... I pray fervently that Adam and your family are protected from Healthfraud, Terry Polevoy. You have all been through too much because of this wacko's obsession with Adam.
Terry Polevoy, who lost his SLAPP suit to me in the Supreme Court of Califiornia and has been attempting to change history before, during and after that ruling ... made this false statement, on October 24, 2009:
Terry Polevoy: "I don't owe you one red cent Ilena."
Well Terror ... I guess I'll have to post the July 17, 2009 "minutes of settlement" and the "judgement" which says otherwise. You lost to me in Ontario and it discusses garnishment of your wages. YOU, not me, are lying to the public yet again. The amounts mentioned are close to $360,000 so far.
Because you are bold faced lying again about your losses, I will put these documents on the web. The one you have on your website bears no resemblance to the outcome of your losing case against me.
I can also let the courts see what you are saying publicly about the judgement you owe and the agreements you made and your public claims that you owe me nothing.
You are a frightening, obsessive man, out of touch with reality ... when young Adam was just a teenager you showed an unnatural addiction to knowing everything you could about him.
YOU are the grifter not he. YOU are trying to make money off of his work ... and it was YOU, not he, who forced him to have to defend himself from a 60 year old man's mad obsession with a beautiful, spiritfilled young man. I saw that you even wrote his university trying to make trouble for him recently ... and misrepresented his education.
You would be pitiful if you weren't so frightening ... even in this post you are obsessing about my physical whereabouts again ... something that you have no need to know. I don't believe you have boundaries or the good sense to admit your defeat and stop your attacks and obsessions about people.
YOU obsess about Adam's finances ... while you promote dangerous vaccinations that harm scores of thousands and are potentially deadly to many and the Vaccination Mafia (thanks for that term to Aribert Deckers, one of your Healthfraud promoters) makes billions. You are NO consumer advocate ... you advocate dangerous drugs and deadly chemotherapy.
The amount of harm you and the other Snake-oil Vigilantes do in incalculable .... how many people suffer through months of chemotherapy to die a painful death anyway?
WoW Terry the Terror! No disguises this time! One point for your side!
I just looked under "hypocrisy" and "quack" and "chutzpah" and all 3 had your photos!
Terry Polevoy posted:
"Why doesn't this anonymous poster who uses offshore accounts tell us who he is?
There is no conspiracy here. Bluehost has acted out of frustration with the frivolouos and vexacious attacks by Adam McLeod."
Whoa!
Adam and his family would never have known your name had you not spent the last several years attacking and taking away all privacy from this family. YOU, Polevoy are the one making vexacious attacks on Adam ... not the other way around!
What that family has had to do to protect Adam from YOU and your incessant and unnatural obsession with him led to you having your website taken down justifiably. How many blogs and sites did you have with Adam's name on it? It's twisted Polevoy!
And the ultimate hypocrisy is your grifting (YOUR term) and hustling to sell Adam's work on your sites AFTER slamming him and attributing to him fantasies in your warped mind. Shameless!
YOU, Polevoy, (or should we call you "Vera Teasdale" as you called yourself in over 50 posts attacking Dr Clark and myself, anonymous and in disguise) call falsely call yourself a 'consumer advocate' when in fact you are a Vaccination / Pharmaceutical pusher and ignore the damage done to millions by these drugs you push. You scream and attack homeopathy, while thousands of children fall ill after their shots that you falsely claim are safe!
YOU, who now owes over $350,000 to me for my attorneys fees and whose attack website tells a false history of your failed case against me ... brought all of this on yourself by YOUR vexacious attacks against Ms McPhee. YOU are the one who wages email and phone campaigns and gathers others on your healthfraud list to attack doctors and scientists and advocates raising awarness to the dangers of vaccinations and other pharmaceuticals and med devices.
YOU are the King of vexacious attacks & threats. Before and during your failed SLAPP suit against me ... YOU are on record with threatening many people with lawsuits who dared to post anything about you and your attacks on health lovers like myself.
YOU went on national television bragging how you were going to give the real name and address of Adam ... then just a teenager. YOU, in my very humble opinion, showed signs of unnatural perverse attention toward young Adam.
More to come ...
PS: I was just kidding about the photos ... I do believe Terry Polevoy personifies perfectly those three terms however.
I suggest that you connect with Mr. David Shagam as soon as you can Ilena. You won't get ONE RED CENT from anything. You assigned any damages you may have won in California to your lawyer.
The lawyers who billed hundreds of thousands of dollars on behalf of your case based on U.S. law that guaranteed your right to defame anyone because you never originated the defamation is what ended your part of the lawsuit.
So, call Mr. Shagam and do send him copies of everything that you have recently posted on misc.health.alternative.
I think that you might be ready to get another legal opinion.
You are lying yet again Terry Polevoy ... aka Vera Teasdale and many other disguises you have hidden behind. You are the coward, you are the harasser, and you are the loser.
Sure Terror ... please post the quotation from the Court where I said I wouldn't defend myself against the lies you and Aribert Deckers and Bob Baratz have posted about this case?
And Frank ... I pray fervently that Adam and your family are protected from Healthfraud, Terry Polevoy. You have all been through too much because of this wacko's obsession with Adam.
Terry Polevoy, who lost his SLAPP suit to me in the Supreme Court of Califiornia and has been attempting to change history before, during and after that ruling ... made this false statement, on October 24, 2009:
Terry Polevoy: "I don't owe you one red cent Ilena."
Well Terror ... I guess I'll have to post the July 17, 2009 "minutes of settlement" and the "judgement" which says otherwise. You lost to me in Ontario and it discusses garnishment of your wages. YOU, not me, are lying to the public yet again. The amounts mentioned are close to $360,000 so far.
Because you are bold faced lying again about your losses, I will put these documents on the web. The one you have on your website bears no resemblance to the outcome of your losing case against me.
I can also let the courts see what you are saying publicly about the judgement you owe and the agreements you made and your public claims that you owe me nothing.
You are a frightening, obsessive man, out of touch with reality ... when young Adam was just a teenager you showed an unnatural addiction to knowing everything you could about him.
YOU are the grifter not he. YOU are trying to make money off of his work ... and it was YOU, not he, who forced him to have to defend himself from a 60 year old man's mad obsession with a beautiful, spiritfilled young man. I saw that you even wrote his university trying to make trouble for him recently ... and misrepresented his education.
You would be pitiful if you weren't so frightening ... even in this post you are obsessing about my physical whereabouts again ... something that you have no need to know. I don't believe you have boundaries or the good sense to admit your defeat and stop your attacks and obsessions about people.
YOU obsess about Adam's finances ... while you promote dangerous vaccinations that harm scores of thousands and are potentially deadly to many and the Vaccination Mafia (thanks for that term to Aribert Deckers, one of your Healthfraud promoters) makes billions. You are NO consumer advocate ... you advocate dangerous drugs and deadly chemotherapy.
The amount of harm you and the other Snake-oil Vigilantes do in incalculable .... how many people suffer through months of chemotherapy to die a painful death anyway?
WoW Terry the Terror! No disguises this time! One point for your side!
I just looked under "hypocrisy" and "quack" and "chutzpah" and all 3 had your photos!
Terry Polevoy posted:
"Why doesn't this anonymous poster who uses offshore accounts tell us who he is?
There is no conspiracy here. Bluehost has acted out of frustration with the frivolouos and vexacious attacks by Adam McLeod."
Whoa!
Adam and his family would never have known your name had you not spent the last several years attacking and taking away all privacy from this family. YOU, Polevoy are the one making vexacious attacks on Adam ... not the other way around!
What that family has had to do to protect Adam from YOU and your incessant and unnatural obsession with him led to you having your website taken down justifiably. How many blogs and sites did you have with Adam's name on it? It's twisted Polevoy!
And the ultimate hypocrisy is your grifting (YOUR term) and hustling to sell Adam's work on your sites AFTER slamming him and attributing to him fantasies in your warped mind. Shameless!
YOU, Polevoy, (or should we call you "Vera Teasdale" as you called yourself in over 50 posts attacking Dr Clark and myself, anonymous and in disguise) call falsely call yourself a 'consumer advocate' when in fact you are a Vaccination / Pharmaceutical pusher and ignore the damage done to millions by these drugs you push. You scream and attack homeopathy, while thousands of children fall ill after their shots that you falsely claim are safe!
YOU, who now owes over $350,000 to me for my attorneys fees and whose attack website tells a false history of your failed case against me ... brought all of this on yourself by YOUR vexacious attacks against Ms McPhee. YOU are the one who wages email and phone campaigns and gathers others on your healthfraud list to attack doctors and scientists and advocates raising awarness to the dangers of vaccinations and other pharmaceuticals and med devices.
YOU are the King of vexacious attacks & threats. Before and during your failed SLAPP suit against me ... YOU are on record with threatening many people with lawsuits who dared to post anything about you and your attacks on health lovers like myself.
YOU went on national television bragging how you were going to give the real name and address of Adam ... then just a teenager. YOU, in my very humble opinion, showed signs of unnatural perverse attention toward young Adam.
More to come ...
PS: I was just kidding about the photos ... I do believe Terry Polevoy personifies perfectly those three terms however.
At the time we can surmise that only a few people knew the real reason that they did this. Adam was still hiding behind his parents' puppet strings.
I also advise that you look into the definition of narcisistic personality disorder on Wikipedia. Plug your hero's family into the equation.and see what you come up with:
The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders fourth edition, DSM IV-TR, a widely used manual for diagnosing mental disorders, defines narcissistic personality disorder (in Axis II Cluster B) as:[6]
A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following: - has a grandiose sense of self-importance
- is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty or ideal love (megalomania)
- believes they are "special" and can only be understood by, or should associate with, people (or institutions) who are also "special" or of high status
- requires excessive admiration
- has a sense of entitlement
- is interpersonally exploitative
- lacks empathy
- is often envious of others or believes others are envious of him or her shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes
Millon's variations
Theodore Millon identified five variations of narcissist:[2]. Any individual narcissist may exhibit none or one of the following:
- unprincipled narcissist - including antisocial features. A charlatan - is a fraudulent, exploitative, deceptive and unscrupulous individual.), avoidant features.
- elitist narcissist - variant of pure pattern. Corresponds to Wilhelm Reich's "phallic narcissistic" personality type.
- fanatic type - including paranoid features. A severely narcissistically wounded individual, usually with major paranoid tendencies who holds onto an illusion of omnipotence. These people are fighting the reality of their insignificance and lost value and are trying to re-establish their self-esteem through grandiose fantasies and self-reinforcement. When unable to gain recognition of support from others, they take on the role of a heroic or worshipped person with a grandiose mission.
WHO CAUSED THIS NARCISTIC PERSONALITY DISORDER:
Causes (etiology)
The etiology of this disorder is unknown, according to Groopman and Cooper. However, they list the following factors identified by various researchers as possible factors.[8]
- An oversensitive temperament at birth
- Overindulgence and overvaluation by parents
- Valued by parents as a means to regulate their own self-esteem
- Excessive admiration that is never balanced with realistic feedback
- Unpredictable or unreliable caregiving from parents
- Severe emotional abuse in childhood
- Being praised for perceived exceptional looks or talents by adults
- Excessive praise for good behaviors or excessive criticism for poor behaviors in childhood
A charlatan (also called swindler or mountebank) is a person practicing quackery or some similar confidence trick in order to obtain money, fame or other advantages via some form of pretence or deception.
the person called a charlatan is being accused of resorting to quackery, pseudoscience, or some knowingly employed bogus means of impressing people in order to swindle his victims by selling them worthless nostrums and similar goods or services that will not deliver on the promises made for them. The word calls forth the image of an old-time medicine show operator, who has long left town by the time the people who bought his snake oil tonic realize that it does not perform as advertised.
Hieronymous Bosch paints a scene of a Renaissance mountebank fleecing incredulous gamblers.
In reported spiritual communications, a charlatan is a person who fakes evidence that a spirit is "making contact" with the medium and seekers. This has been challenged successfully by skeptics who wrote passwords and gave them to people of trust, containing a password that should be spoken by the person if he ever tried to make contact, to validate the truth of the claim. No such claim has been verified. Notable people who have successfully debunked the claims of purported supernatural mediums include Brazilian writer Monteiro Lobato and magician Houdini.
Synonyms for "charlatan" include "mountebank", "shyster", and "quack". "Mountebank" comes from the Italian montambanco or montimbanco based on the phrase monta in banco - literally referring to the action of a seller of dubious medicines getting up on a bench to address his audience of potential customers.[2]
THE BOTTOM LINE IS WHETHER OR NOT YOUR HERO WILL CONTINUE HIS NARCISISTIC BEHAVIOR INDEPENDENTLY OF HIS FAMILY. IT MUST BE NICE TO BE ABLE TO BRAG ON NATIONAL TV THAT PERHAPS HIS ENTERPRISE BROUGHT IN A MILLIION DOLLARS.
Of course if he succeeds in his charades in the dark hotel ballrooms by waving his hands wildly while he is in a trance communicating with the big black bird in Nootka Island we can still sit back here and laugh. The poor people who pay him $129 will continue to lose.
The Intention to Heal project will prove to the world that he is no different from the evangelical scammers who hide under the God complex. He could call himself the Pope of Nootkaland if he had any religious convictions. But, there are no claims of miracles.
Instead, someone who relied on his infinite claims, testimonials, and the rest of the three-ring circus will forever be the losers. In my opinion, and that of professional investigators and scientists he and his family have spent the better part of the last decade in a big publicity stunt. They've tricked major magazines, newspapers, and TV into publishing and broadcasting their nonsense.
The critics have always been right, and your two-cents over the years slams the door shut on any possibility that there is any truth to any of their claims.
You should be added to their testimonials. Why not go to the event on November 8th and do an interview and post it on your lousy web site.
To anyone who still sees the big bird, it's time to clean out the cage. Ilena, go get your shovel, and enjoy the rest of your life
Narcissism, Pathological Narcissism, The Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD), the Narcissist, and Relationships with Abusive Narcissists and Psychopaths
One of the most important symptoms of pathological narcissism (the Narcissistic Personality Disorder) is grandiosity. Grandiose fantasies (megalomaniac delusions of grandeur) permeate every aspect of the narcissist's personality. They are the reason that the narcissist feels entitled to special treatment which is typically incommensurate with his real accomplishments. The Grandiosity Gap is the abyss between the narcissist's self-image (as reified by his False Self) and reality.
When Narcissistic Supply is deficient, the narcissist de-compensates and acts out in a variety of ways. Narcissists often experience psychotic micro-episodes during therapy and when they suffer narcissistic injuries in a life crisis. But can the narcissist "go over the edge"? Do narcissists ever become psychotic?
Some terminology first:
The narrowest definition of psychosis, according to the DSM-IV-TR, is "restricted to delusions or prominent hallucinations, with the hallucinations occurring in the absence of insight into their pathological nature".
And what are delusions and hallucinations?
A delusion is "a false belief based on incorrect inference about external reality that is firmly sustained despite what almost everyone else believes and despite what constitutes incontrovertible and obvious proof or evidence to the contrary".
A hallucination is a "sensory perception that has the compelling sense of reality of a true perception but that occurs without external stimulation of the relevant sensory organ".
Granted, the narcissist's hold on reality is tenuous (narcissists sometimes fail the reality test). Admittedly, narcissists often seem to believe in their own confabulations. They are unaware of the pathological nature and origin of their self-delusions and are, thus, technically delusional (though they rarely suffer from hallucinations, disorganised speech, or disorganised or catatonic behaviour). In the strictest sense of the word, narcissists appear to be psychotic.
But, actually, they are not. There is a qualitative difference between benign (though well-entrenched) self-deception or even malignant con- artistry – and "losing it".
Pathological narcissism should not be construed as a form of psychosis because: The narcissists is usually fully aware of the difference between true and false, real and make-belief, the invented and the extant, right and wrong. The narcissist consciously chooses to adopt one version of the events, an aggrandising narrative, a fairy-tale existence, a "what- if" counterfactual life. He is emotionally invested in his personal myth. The narcissist feels better as fiction than as fact – but he never loses sight of the fact that it is all just fiction.
Throughout, the narcissist is in full control of his faculties, cognisant of his choices, and goal-orientated. His behaviour is intentional and directional. He is a manipulator and his delusions are in the service of his stratagems. Hence his chameleon-like ability to change guises, his conduct, and his convictions on a dime.
Narcissistic delusions rarely persist in the face of blanket opposition and reams of evidence to the contrary. The narcissist usually tries to convert his social milieu to his point of view. He attempts to condition his nearest and dearest to positively reinforce his delusional False Self. But, if he fails, he modifies his profile on the fly. He "plays it by ear". His False Self is extemporaneous – a perpetual work of art, permanently reconstructed in a reiterative process designed around intricate and complex feedback loops.
Though the narcissistic personality is rigid – its content is always in flux. Narcissists forever re-invent themselves, adapt their consumption of Narcissistic Supply to the "marketplace", attuned to the needs of their "suppliers". Like the performers that they are, they resonate with their "audience", giving it what it expects and wants. They are efficient instruments for the extraction and consumption of human reactions.
As a result of this interminable process of fine tuning, narcissists have no loyalties, no values, no doctrines, no beliefs, no affiliations, and no convictions. Their only constraint is their addiction to human attention, positive or negative.
Psychotics, by comparison, are fixated on a certain view of the world and of their place in it. They ignore any and all information that might challenge their delusions. Gradually, they retreat into the inner recesses of their tormented mind and become dysfunctional.
Narcissists can't afford to shut out the world because they so heavily depend on it for the regulation of their labile sense of self-worth. Owing to this dependence, they are hypersensitive and hypervigilant, alert to every bit of new data. They are continuously busy rearranging their self-delusions to incorporate new information in an ego-syntonic manner.
This is why the Narcissistic Personality Disorder is insufficient grounds for claiming a "diminished capacity" (insanity) defence. Narcissists are never divorced from reality – they crave it, and need it, and consume it in order to maintain the precarious balance of their disorganised, borderline-psychotic personality.
All narcissists, even the freakiest ones, can tell right from wrong, act with intent, and are in full control of their faculties and actions.
NOT THE AUTHOR'S USE OF THE WORDS "ACT WITH INTENT".
I assume that your friends big black bird worshipper and his extended family over the last nine years or so can indeed tell right from wrong, that they were in full control of their faculties and actions, and of course they themselves acted with intent.
BTW Nootka Island has also been visited by some people who also see visions of a dark hairy being that stares at you and then runs away. Maybe your boy missed his golden opportunity to make claims about this delusion, too. But, it most have awakened his family's ability to manipulate the situation into a golden opportunity and what led to his career path change.
BTW - Why hasn't he ever place a copy of his diploma on the Internet? He told me in an e-mail that he would probably do that.
Even more descriptions of narcissistic personality disorders:
It might be helpful for your friend to review this excellent article from the Cleveland Clinic. Make sure you do this when both of you are not in a trance, please.
Narcissism is a term used to describe a focus on the self and self- admiration that is taken to an extreme. The word "narcissism" comes from a Greek myth in which a handsome young man named Narcissus sees his reflection in a pool of water and falls in love with it.
Narcissistic personality disorder is one of a group of conditions called dramatic personality disorders. People with these disorders have intense, unstable emotions and a distorted self-image. Narcissistic personality disorder is further characterized by an abnormal love of self, an exaggerated sense of superiority and importance, and a preoccupation with success and power. However, these attitudes and behaviors do not reflect true self-confidence. Instead, the attitudes conceal a deep sense of insecurity and a fragile self- esteem.
What Are the Symptoms of Narcissistic Personality Disorder?
In many cases, people with narcissistic personality disorder: Are self-centered and boastful
Seek constant attention and admiration
Consider themselves better than others
Exaggerate their talents and achievements
Believe that they are entitled to special treatment
Are easily hurt but may not show it
Set unrealistic goals
May take advantage of others to achieve their goals
Other common traits of narcissistic personality disorder include the following: Preoccupation with fantasies that focus on unlimited success, power, intelligence, beauty, or love
Belief that he or she is "special" and unique, and can only be understood by other special people
Expectation that others will automatically go along with what he or she wants
Inability to recognize or identify with the feelings, needs, and viewpoints of others
Envy of others or a belief that others are envious of him or her
Hypersensitivity to insults (real or imagined), criticism, or defeat, possibly reacting with rage, shame and humiliation
Arrogant behavior and/or attitude
What Causes Narcissistic Personality Disorder?
The exact cause of narcissistic personality disorder is not known. However, many mental health professionals believe it results from extremes in child rearing. For example, the disorder might develop as the result of excessive pampering, or when a child's parents have a need for their children to be talented or special in order to maintain their own self-esteem. On the other end of the spectrum, narcissistic personality disorder might develop as the result of neglect or abuse and trauma inflicted by parents or other authority figures during childhood. The disorder usually is evident by early adulthood.
How Is Narcissistic Personality Disorder Diagnosed?
If symptoms are present, the doctor will begin an evaluation by performing a complete medical history and physical examination. Although there are no laboratory tests to specifically diagnose personality disorders, the doctor might use various diagnostic tests, such as X-rays and blood tests, to rule out a physical illness as the cause of the symptoms.
If the doctor finds no physical reason for the symptoms, he or she might refer the person to a psychiatrist or psychologist, health care professionals who are specially trained to diagnose and treat mental illnesses. Psychiatrists and psychologists use specially designed interview and assessment tools to evaluate a person for a personality disorder.
How Is Narcissistic Personality Disorder Treated?
There is no known cure for narcissistic personality disorder, but psychotherapy (a type of counseling) might help the person learn to relate to others in a more positive and rewarding way. Psychotherapy tries to provide the person with greater insight into his or her problems and attitudes in the hope that this will change behavior. The goal of therapy is to help the person develop a better self-esteem and more realistic expectations of others. Medication might be used to treat the distressing symptoms, such as behavioral problems, that might occur with this disorder.
What Complications Are Associated With Narcissistic Personality Disorder?
People with narcissistic personality disorder might abuse drugs and/or alcohol as a way of coping with their symptoms. The disorder also might interfere with the development of healthy relationships with others.
What Is the Outlook for People With Narcissistic Personality Disorder?
The prognosis depends on the severity of the disorder.
Can Narcissistic Personality Disorder Be Prevented?
There is no known way to prevent narcissistic personality disorder.
Reviewed by the doctors at The Cleveland Clinic Department of Psychiatry and Psychology.
Reviewed by Cynthia Dennison Haines, MD
Edited by Cynthia Dennison Haines, MD, on March 1, 2005
On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:03:26 -0600, Ilena Rose <B...@mundo.com> wrote: >You are lying yet again Terry Polevoy ...
Ilena Rosenthal is a rotten liar. And SHE accuses others of lying.
Very funny...
Please note:
On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 20:21:21 -0600, Ilena Rose <B...@mundo.com> wrote: >Sure Terror ... please post the quotation from the Court where I said >I wouldn't defend myself against the lies you and Aribert Deckers and >Bob Baratz have posted about this case?
Now that is case 2. As I have nothing to do with that law suit. But Ilena Rosenthal does make such a connection. Which again proves that she is a liar.
Please note:
On Sat, 24 Oct 2009 19:48:04 -0600, Ilena Rose <B...@mundo.com> wrote: >So, who hired you for your "mission" and what was it precisely?
>Who pays you to stalk and investigate and harass the identical people >that Barrett & Polevoy attack?
Oh, again Ilena Rosenthal proves herself to be is a rotten liar, and a bloody stupid liar, that is... Because she had posted:
<quote> From: Ilena Rose <B...@mundo.com> Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative Subject: Bye till next time Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 23:30:39 -0600 Message-ID: <kjo7e59knnim4hm9r6gmf87d029rj2p5k9@4ax.com>
Healthfraud Deckers admits he is paid to do his "work" which has **************************************************************** included promoting the perfidy of Terry Polevoy and others in the Vaccination Mafia. This would be a good time for him to share with all who pays him for his "work." </quote>
On one hand she makes claims, on the other hand she asks about these claims.
Ilena Rosenthal claims: "Healthfraud Deckers admits he is paid to do his "work"". That sentence already contains the insult "healthfraud". And the sentence contains the claim that I am paid. Where are the proves for that? Ilena Rosenthal has NONE. And she knows it, of course.
Ilena Rosenthal is insulting, defaming, lying: "Wanker", "Idiot", "Coward" ... This makes Ilena Rosenthal a criminal stalker, liar, defamer, etc. The exact legalse I leave to lawyers. But one thing is for sure: Ilena Rosenthal is a criminal, and she will pay for that.
The following is a bit of what she posted in usenet in july 2009. It is Ilena Rosenthals's very own words.
<quote> From: Ilena Rose <B...@mundo.com> Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med.immunology,sci.med.nursing ,talk.politics.medicine,uk.people.health Subject: GORSKI, M.D.: THE WORLDWIDE WANKER OF "WOO" ******************************************* Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 15:47:06 -0600 Message-ID: <omjp655e01fgqrbuos9thfar00kv072...@4ax.com>
Haven't read this piece, but wanted to add that David Gorski (who for years hid behind "Orac" ... is a very active participant on Wikipedia, the Healthfraud List, the Snake oil Vigilante Brigade ... while being a recipient of money from the DOD. He has several pro-vacccination industry blogs ... and haunted Usenet for years tho prefers arenas where their is censorship in his favour.
<quote> From: Ilena Rose <B...@mundo.com> Newsgroups: alt.support.breast-implant,misc.kids.health,misc.health.alternative,talk.po litics.medicine Subject: Re: Do Not Take A Swine Flu Vaccine! From Patricia Doyle, PhD Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 08:37:00 -0600 Message-ID: <uob665lk3j6glgl0874c82aanjvc2fb...@4ax.com>
Aribert Deckers (the coward behind the Oyster Moniker) is just another ****************************************************** Healthfraud who appears to have been tagged to 'work' newsgroups at this time. I read his blatherings on the Healthfraud List of my failed and disgraced nemesis, Stephen Barrettt ... loser in Barrett Vs Rosenthal. www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/BarrettvsRosenthal.htm
Deckers joins Barrett in attacking professionals ... while Barrett himself failed his psychiatric boards!
He was bombing usenet like Deckers is doing now ... sashaying as "Rosenthal Researcher" or any of his many aliases he got busted for.
Aribert ... ask your mentor Barrett how it went for his snake-oil team ******* harassing and suing and lying about me went for him? </quote>
<quote> From: Ilena Rose <B...@mundo.com> Newsgroups: aus.politics,sci.med,misc.health.alternative,sci.med.diseases.cancer,misc.k ids.health Subject: Swine flu alert clears old stock of Tamiflu ... Great for Rumsfield's pocketbook Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 10:16:21 -0600 Message-ID: <5jh6655472r5642qb87habu1v6juodc...@4ax.com>
Dedicated to the Vaccination Propagandists on the net ... many clumped together as the Rag-tag Posse of Snake-oil Vigilantes ... the snake oil they sell & hype being the many many billion dollar biz of pushing vacs and suing & harassing those of us who warn the public of the dangers. www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/snake-oil.htm Their latest flack working usenet is Aribert Deckers ... not listed on **************************************************** their original group but following the steps of disbarred attorney, Mark S Probert. </quote>
<quote> From: Ilena Rose <B...@mundo.com> Newsgroups: talk.politics.medicine,sci.environment,misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.he alth Subject: Videos - Child Drugging - Too many kids on meds because of unscrupulous psychiatrists Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 10:18:45 -0600 Message-ID: <hqh6651pea5g23co6vk5qe9jc95qm4k...@4ax.com>
Since being SLAPP sued by pseudo science writer, Stephen Barrett, who advertises his occupation as 'psychiatrist' (although he was never able to pass the board certification) I've been very aware of the antics of this particular group of MD's.
I find them to oft be rightening control junkies who use their intellect and education to cause much much much harm and little good.
Barrett is a vaccination / chemical industy mouth who has made a long career out of attacking activists and scientists who would harm these industries ... via harassment lawsuits, screaming to government officials at all levels, and a online team used to attack us. The list is here. www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/snake-oil.htm Recently augmented by Deutcher Aribert Deckers ********************************************** </quote>
<quote> From: Ilena Rose <B...@mundo.com> Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative,talk.politics.medicine,misc.kids.health,talk.politi cs.medicine Subject: Important Repost: Merck Slapped With Warning Letter for Vaccine Operations ... Drugs used for Vaccines Adulterated Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 16:01:27 -0600 Message-ID: <7s5765hpvuva180g995hcq6d344q1v5...@4ax.com>
Unfortunately, the Merck shills are everywhere on the internet ... and ******************************* this information oft gets buried by their distraction and scare tactics.
<quote> From: Ilena Rose <B...@mundo.com> Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative,talk.politics.medicine,misc.kids.health,alt.support .breast-implant,sci.med.dentistry Subject: The Operations of Quacks: How Barrett Tried to Infiltrate those Exposing Dangers of Fluoride Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 16:05:43 -0600 Message-ID: <a367659os9ffciiktfcgn6n7kiseqnl...@4ax.com>
From Health Lover, Ilena Rosenthal: http://ilenarose.blogspot.com Dedicated to Quackwatch Cheerleader, German Aribert "oyster" Deckers ******************************************************************** ... who has now brought the Quackwatch agenda to Usenet to fill with ******************************************** their disinformation. *********************
A glimpse into his character can be gained through his habitual use of words to mean their exact opposite. For example, in an article entitled "Poison Mongers," Dr. Barrett refers to people who are trying to stop the addition of fluoride, a poison, to the water supply as poison-mongers.
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FLUORIDE ... The Aging Factor ******** How to Recognize and Avoid the [...] </quote>
That is a another clear case of libel.
I am against fluoridation! And since 2002 I have several web-pages about that topic:
<quote> From: Ilena Rose <B...@mundo.com> Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,alt.support.breast-implant,alt.sup port.attn-deficit,talk.politics.medicine Subject: Tamiflu Vaccine Linked With Convulsions, Delirium and Bizarre Deaths Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 19:52:31 -0600 Message-ID: <b3j765hp5596dqa3ndb517h0n5hddpi...@4ax.com>
MESSAGE TO ARIBERT 'HAPPY OYSTER' DECKERS / STEPHEN BARRETT / MARK ****************************************** PROBERT & OTHER RAG-TAG POSSE MEMBERS: www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/snake-oil.htm: The tactic of highjacking theads such as your team has done for years,
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