Hi to all in this Discussion

Just a few things I might add to the fire lol, is the one thing in
these discussions we need to leave out all personal issues and deal
with the matter In question, Just a little about me, I’ve been in the
motor industry most of my life, and have also had a lot of dealings
with speedway over the years, the issues I raise here are as below

1.      Why is the 450cc been allowed into a 250cc class?? (needs some
serious explanation here)
2.      Weather or not if you car is old or new, if it passes inspections
and Scrutineering, are they not deemed safe to race?? There wasn’t a
lot last year that was knocked back if any??, but the amount of cars I
seen falling apart was a disgrace to the club and the sport
3.      450cc class, has any one said or stated what year this engine has
to be, for instance KTM 450 Factory stock have fuel injection, so do
some other brands Gas Gas, Husky etc, so there needs to be a area here
that needs to be addressed for a start, you say they have to be stock,
well these are, so the engines year or performance needs to be
addressed massively here, a worked 450 is going to have a lot of
punch, and its not going to be easy to work out weather or not its
factory stock unless you are going to take the owners word for it, or
if it keeps winning or there is something there that’s out of the
ordinary who’s going to do the inspection to make sure it isn’t and
pay for this??
4.      Still beats me why 450cc are in with 250??, going to look odd
telling people, when they ask what sort of engine is in your car mate
been a 250, yes mate it’s a 450??? What??
5.      Big cams, etc what ever big values, most people who are in the
know, is that you get most of your horse power from a 4 stroke, in its
cam, bigger values and head work, bore size does have some affect but
not great deals (and lets not get to technical here we talking 4
stroke bike engines), Example: for instance a bottom end on a 410 V8
Sprint car costs so much $15,000, the heads and top end etc are your
dearest parts $25,000 why because this is where 75% of your horsepower
is, ok so what Im getting at is if there is ever and issue over whats
what etc, the bore can be stock, but who’s to say the heads haven’t
been followed to the max, bigger values and cam etc etc, so you can
all see where Im coming from with this ok.
6.      The thing is, and I see it all the time, its hard for a club to
start a new division etc and get it up and running as we all know well
some of us anyway in how much works involved in this, and most
promoters require a 12 plus field.
7.      The thing is with the 450 class, they should be on there own, and
they should have there own rules as well, and not to intervene with
the 250 class, I spend a lot of time and money on my car, to make sure
its up to scratch at all times, and so do most other club members,
point being is that 250cc Microsprints should be left alone, you have
even said it yourself that the US Guys haven’t even gone there, I
wonder why to much to workout and to much uncommon issues etc, and to
many things that cant be checked or trusted.
8.      Most of us know the 250 class in the US is one of the biggest
classes going, and racing anywhere up to 3 to 4 times a week, here we
are lucky to get this in 2 to 3 months, so I would like to see a lot
more going into promoting the club events, not dwelling on the 450cc
issue as to me this will end up destroying the club that has worked so
hard to survive over the years, things like getting bigger venues so
we can show case our cars, and getting people interested and getting
bigger better sponsors, this is only going to happen if we are racing
at bigger venues, this all has to do with the marketing of the club
and so on, this most likely doesn’t have a lot to do with the 450
issues but to me it does, but it needs to be look at seriously if the
club wants to get bigger and have more cars, the 450 class will add
more cost, as with the 250 2 strokes, a lot of people can handle the
work load, as with the 450 there isn’t a lot that can do the work,
hence forth will then be required to pay someone to do this, and then
of coarse steering people away from the sport itself because of cost
issues

That’s all hope this has some input and even maybe fire up the others
to have a say, all the best and what ever you’re racing go hard and
fast and enjoy

On Jul 13, 10:28 am, grumpy <bobsteven...@hotmail.com> wrote: