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Roger Pixley  
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 More options Mar 1, 4:56 am
From: "Roger Pixley" <skree...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 12:56:24 -0500
Local: Sat, Mar 1 2008 4:56 am
Subject: Google SoC
Google has the SOC up. Should we submit for some tasks under KDE?

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psychobr...@gmx.net  
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 More options Mar 5, 5:10 pm
From: psychobr...@gmx.net
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 22:10:05 -0800 (PST)
Local: Wed, Mar 5 2008 5:10 pm
Subject: Re: Google SoC
On Mar 1, 3:56 am, "Roger Pixley" <skree...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Google has the SOC up. Should we submit for some tasks under KDE?

Sounds like a great idea
Someone has already put up ideas for KWord [1] and a new project
called Kobby[2].

Both are a step in the right direction but could do with a touch up.
Also something for Kate would be fantastic.

Hmm looking at the details the KWord description is a little short on
details and Kobby is trying to tackle Kate and Kdevelop in one go
while ignoring current developments like libinfinote which is done by
the gobby guys. :)

[1] http://techbase.kde.org/index.php?title=Projects/Summer_of_Code/2008/...
[2] http://techbase.kde.org/index.php?title=Projects/Summer_of_Code/2008/...


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Roger Pixley  
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 More options Mar 6, 3:52 am
From: "Roger Pixley" <skree...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 11:52:11 -0500
Local: Thurs, Mar 6 2008 3:52 am
Subject: Re: Google SoC
Well I think what we need to do is really pinpoint what someone can
start working on. That should be more attractive than these which
basically say "This is a good idea. Jump to it!"


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psychobr...@gmx.net  
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 More options Mar 6, 5:07 pm
From: psychobr...@gmx.net
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 22:07:35 -0800 (PST)
Local: Thurs, Mar 6 2008 5:07 pm
Subject: Re: Google SoC

On Mar 6, 2:52 am, "Roger Pixley" <skree...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Well I think what we need to do is really pinpoint what someone can
> start working on. That should be more attractive than these which
> basically say "This is a good idea. Jump to it!"

So what would be the best way forward?

Just thinking out loud, extending the existing katepart or even the
ktexteditor class would probably go a long way. Using a library like
libinfinote should make that a feasible target for a soc project.


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Roger Pixley  
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 More options Mar 7, 4:53 am
From: "Roger Pixley" <skree...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 12:53:28 -0500
Local: Fri, Mar 7 2008 4:53 am
Subject: Re: Google SoC
Well here is where I get fuzzy on the structure. Is MateEdit a fork of
kate that remerges every now and again or do we work directly on kate?
and then pull funky breaking stuff into MateEdit to break in a
fantastic manner then  to return with a chorus and fireworks to the
embracing arms of KDE?

On 3/6/08, psychobr...@gmx.net <psychobr...@gmx.net> wrote:


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psychobr...@gmx.net  
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 More options Mar 14, 10:07 am
From: psychobr...@gmx.net
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 16:07:32 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Mar 14 2008 10:07 am
Subject: Re: Google SoC
MateEdit currently has no shared code with Kate. It also is based on
KDE3 so not much use for current development.

What it should do is use the underlying KDE classes such as
ktexteditor for it's editing component, spice it up with collaborative
editing using libinfinote and then once it all works merge it all back
with the fireworks you mention :)

Having said that all this can of course be done straight inside the
KDE repository without the need for MateEdit in the mix so that would
be a good SOC project.

I will go and get in touch with the person who put the orignal kobby
entry up to see what his thoughts are.

On Mar 7, 3:53 am, "Roger Pixley" <skree...@gmail.com> wrote:


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psychobr...@gmx.net  
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 More options Mar 17, 3:28 pm
From: psychobr...@gmx.net
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:28:25 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Mar 17 2008 3:28 pm
Subject: Re: Google SoC
I made the mentioned changes to the SOC wiki. Feel free to add
anything.

On Mar 14, 9:07 am, psychobr...@gmx.net wrote:


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psychobr...@gmx.net  
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 More options Apr 25, 7:48 am
From: psychobr...@gmx.net
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:48:30 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Apr 25 2008 7:48 am
Subject: Re: Google SoC
Just an update collaborative editing got a slot filled by Greg Haynes
for this years summer of code and I will be mentoring.

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Roger Pixley  
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 More options Jun 19, 3:57 pm
From: "Roger Pixley" <skree...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 00:57:55 -0500
Local: Thurs, Jun 19 2008 3:57 pm
Subject: Re: Google SoC
And first word turns up at
http://gregarei.com/2008/06/introducing-libinfinitymm/ :-) Nice to
have you on board Greg


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Roger Pixley  
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 More options Jul 11, 8:56 am
From: "Roger Pixley" <skree...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 18:56:20 -0400
Local: Fri, Jul 11 2008 8:56 am
Subject: Re: Google SoC
Hi Just checking ig Greg is on this list. Been a little bit since he
updated his blog


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Roger Pixley  
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 More options Jul 22, 6:16 pm
From: "Roger Pixley" <skree...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 03:16:33 -0500
Local: Tues, Jul 22 2008 6:16 pm
Subject: Re: Google SoC

Ok So incase anyone is following this and not following Gregs Blog he has an
issue in his latest post
That he is musing about
http://gregarei.com/2008/07/gsoc-phase-2-kobby-development/ Anyone have any
comments?

If he is going to do a document management interface it would make sense to
have that in conjunction with the open session dialog but how would that
work with respect to real KIO document sessions and collaborative sessions?
Let me think on it in bed a bit. Night!


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Andreas Ramm  
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 More options Jul 22, 7:34 pm
From: "Andreas Ramm" <psychobr...@gmx.net>
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:34:27 +0200
Local: Tues, Jul 22 2008 7:34 pm
Subject: Re: Google SoC
The main issue here is that Kate has a notion of sessions can contain a number of documents. Inside infinote each document is managed through a session so there might be a bit of confusion here. The problem is that it probably isn't all that optimal to open a new infinote session for every document inside a Kate session on startup.

I would think for opening, there could be some KIO interface to enumerate documents on the other side, but that needs a fair amount of investigation to see how a KIO->Kate Document Session handover could be done.

Also just to throw it in, there was a post from one of the Kobby guys. http://arbur.net/serendipity/archives/38-Kobby-coming-along.html

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