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mshoneypot4u  
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(1 user)  More options Nov 21 2008, 5:57 am
From: mshoneypot4u
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 10:57:09 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Nov 21 2008 5:57 am
Subject: Re: Webpage removal request tool Nazis
Nov 19, 2008  http://www.windsorescorts.com/vbulletin/member.php?u=5826
Modified web page
Search terms: 586-XXX-XXXX DOES NOT APPEAR ON THE URL ANYMORE! THE
WEBMASTER REMOVED IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Denied Help Help

Nov 19, 2008  http://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/show.asp?id=111692
Modified web page
Search terms: 586-XXX-XXXX DOES NOT APPEAR ON THE URL ANYMORE! THE
WEBMASTER REMOVED IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Denied Help Help

The search term 586-XXX-XXXX (I have altered my phone number to
protect my privacy) returns the two URL's shown above.  The webmasters
removed my phone number from those URL's years ago.  However, when one
enters my phone number as the search term in a Google seach, the two
URL's still return as results.  For years I have requested that they
be removed and for years Google will remove them only top have them
pop back up eventually and, once again, I have to fight with Google to
get them removed.  I have submitted these two URL's to the Google
Webmaster URL Removal Tool dozens of times, only to have my request
denied.  The little question mark next to the denial has the reason
given when you hover over it.  The reason Google denied my requests is
because they say that my phone number still appears on the URL's.  BUT
IT FREAKING DOES NOT!  This leads me to believe that Google isn't even
taking the time to verify/check these removal requests, because, if
they did, they would see that my phone number does not appear on the
URL's, despite the fact that they return as a Google search result for
the term.  There's a description and cached link and everything.  So,
either Google search is broke and they don't want to admit it or they
are fucking with me.  How can a company as big as Google hire such
incompetent boobs?  If they checked, they'd see my phone number
doesn't appear on those URL's.  In fact, no phone number is anywhere
on those URL's.

You smart asses can talk about me not taking my meds and how I am
crazy all you want.  I know there are plenty of Internet trolls out
there.  But, the fact remains that I am right and Google's wrong.
Check the URL's for yourself.  If you see any phone number on there,
including mine, I will pay you $500.


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Susan Moskwa Google employee  
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(1 user)  More options Nov 25 2008, 8:28 am
From: Susan Moskwa
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 13:28:19 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues, Nov 25 2008 8:28 am
Subject: Re: Webpage removal request tool Nazis
Hi mshoneypot4u,

I'm sorry that you're having trouble with these removals. Here are a
few thoughts:

When requesting a cache removal, the "Search terms" field should only
contain text that is present in the cached version but not in the live
version of the page. Entering "586-XXX-XXXX DOES NOT APPEAR ON THE URL
ANYMORE! THE WEBMASTER REMOVED IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" as the search
term will likely result in the removal being automatically denied
because "does not appear..." isn't part of the content that appears in
the cached page. The removal tool has a separate "Comments" field
where you can leave comments like this.

Secondly, just because a URL is returned as a result for a query
doesn't necessarily mean that that word is present on the page or in
the cache. You say that these URLs are still being returned as results
when searching for your phone number; but when I look at the cached
versions of these pages I don't see your phone number in the cache. If
you do a site: search for that page + your phone number and then look
at the cache, I believe you'll see that it says "These terms only
appear in links pointing to this page". This is true when I search for
your area code:

(Note to others: link may be NSFW)
http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:N775Cl2ta-EJ:www.windsorescorts....

If this is the case, submitting cache removals won't help because it's
no longer a question of your phone number appearing in the cached
version of the page. In order to get these results to stop appearing
when searching for your phone number, you would either need to find
the pages linking to these pages using your phone number as anchor
text (and ask those webmasters to change their links), or you could do
some positive reputation management by getting other, more acceptable-
to-you pages to outrank these pages when searching for your phone
number.

Hope this helps.


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mshoneypot4u  
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(1 user)  More options Dec 1 2008, 4:28 am
From: mshoneypot4u
Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 09:28:30 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon, Dec 1 2008 4:28 am
Subject: Re: Webpage removal request tool Nazis
Thanks for your reply.  It makes perfect sense, except for one thing.
I have done an exhaustive search for ANY page that links to those
URL's with my phone number as anchor text and none exist.  When one
uses my phone number as a Google search term, only two URL's return
and those are the two in question (the usual reverse phone number
search web site ads come up, too, which is true when you search for
ANY phone number).

Google gives "The content you submitted for cache removal appears on
the live third-party page" as the reason they are denying my
requests.  That simply isn't true.  The webmasters removed my phone
number from those pages years ago.

This is so frustrating, but it's nice to finally have an intelligent
reply to my posts.  Thank you.  :-)

On Nov 24, 3:28 pm, Susan Moskwa wrote:


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Susan Moskwa Google employee  
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(1 user)  More options Dec 4 2008, 6:52 am
From: Susan Moskwa
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 11:52:24 -0800 (PST)
Local: Thurs, Dec 4 2008 6:52 am
Subject: Re: Webpage removal request tool Nazis
I agree that that denial reason leaves something to be desired, and
I'll pass this along to the team. I'm sorry that it's been a
frustrating experience.

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