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wilderness  
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 More options Aug 26 2008, 8:45 am
From: wilderness
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:45:29 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Aug 26 2008 8:45 am
Subject: Re: An easy way to make your 404 pages useful!
thanks

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wilderness  
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 More options Aug 26 2008, 8:58 am
From: wilderness
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:58:49 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Aug 26 2008 8:58 am
Subject: Re: An easy way to make your 404 pages useful!
Is it possible to make the result page look like a page from my Google
Custom search that I use on my site (boreal.net). The change to my
custom error page is inconsistent with the rest of my search results.
Please let me know if this is possible and how.

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kandi111777  
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(1 user)  More options Aug 27 2008, 10:23 am
From: kandi111777
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 17:23:05 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Aug 27 2008 10:23 am
Subject: Re: An easy way to make your 404 pages useful!
Hi John,
Thank you again - you are full of great information! I just redid the
page as a static aspx page so there is only one form and it seems to
be working in IE7 and Firefox. Thank you for everything!!

Kandi

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cti team  
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(1 user)  More options Aug 29 2008, 7:40 am
From: cti team
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:40:25 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Aug 29 2008 7:40 am
Subject: Re: An easy way to make your 404 pages useful!
Check out my cool custom 404 page that I made for a client of ours. It
is an attorney so I hope he has a sense of humor. :D

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cti team  
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(1 user)  More options Aug 29 2008, 7:44 am
From: cti team
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:44:17 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Aug 29 2008 7:44 am
Subject: Re: An easy way to make your 404 pages useful!
http://www.sandiego-dui-attorney.com/404.html
forgot url

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kingcobrapoker.com  
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(1 user)  More options Sep 1 2008, 5:37 am
From: kingcobrapoker.com
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 12:37:43 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Sep 1 2008 5:37 am
Subject: Re: An easy way to make your 404 pages useful!
That's pretty cool!  My thing though is getting the pages which Google
has indexed removed from the search results.  I tried to have them
deleted using the tool but I noticed that even though it says the
pages got removed I'm still getting errors for at least some.  I guess
if that doesn't work I can come up with something although I think I'd
prefer to publish something on my own to fill the spot so it doesn't
show up as an error.

Ken
King Cobra Poker
htttp://kingcobrapoker.com


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JohnMu Google employee  
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 More options Sep 1 2008, 7:36 am
From: JohnMu
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 14:36:51 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Sep 1 2008 7:36 am
Subject: Re: An easy way to make your 404 pages useful!
Hi Ken
You generally don't have to manually remove URLs from our index if
they don't exist anymore. If we notice that they don't exist, we'll
automatically removed them from our index over time -- and for the
time that they remain in our index, we may try to re-crawl them but us
finding an error for those URLs will generally not negatively affect
your site's crawling, indexing and ranking with Google.

I hope that makes things easier :)

John


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Snowman2468  
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 More options Sep 1 2008, 3:17 pm
From: Snowman2468
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 22:17:38 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Sep 1 2008 3:17 pm
Subject: Re: An easy way to make your 404 pages useful!
Are you saying the errors that we experienced with 404's that don't
exist will "not negatively .... ranking with Google" ?

re : http://groups.google.com/group/Google_Webmaster_Help-Indexing/browse_...

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 More options Sep 2 2008, 11:05 am
From: webado
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 18:05:53 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Sep 2 2008 11:05 am
Subject: Re: An easy way to make your 404 pages useful!
That's right.
The only 404's that affect yrou site negatively are those for pages
which SHOULD exist, you know they EXIST and yet return 404's.

This can also easily happen if you navigation is poorly designed and
your internal links are in fact broken when seen by a robot.
For instance if you have links like <a href="../somepage.html">Some
page</a>, the browser will know what ../ means but a robot will not
and then that is instantly a broken link, thereby depriving that page
of the benefit of a spider visit.
And if all the links to that page are expresed that way, then that
page does not exist for Googlebot.

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webado  
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 More options Sep 2 2008, 11:07 am
From: webado
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 18:07:09 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Sep 2 2008 11:07 am
Subject: Re: An easy way to make your 404 pages useful!
Don't put urls in a sitemap which don't exist or that get redirected.
They'll be ignored (but you get the warnging anyway). It's just
useless and sloppy.

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jeff hall  
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(1 user)  More options Sep 3 2008, 7:04 am
From: jeff hall
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 14:04:56 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Sep 3 2008 7:04 am
Subject: Re: An easy way to make your 404 pages useful!
It works fine unless or until you use a PC which has downloaded and
installed AVG (anti virus software) which detects the redirection in
the Script and then redirects your browser to a yahoo search bar !!
To be fair you can disable this feature in the AVG toolbar although
many users would probably not change the default features. therefore
is there anything you can add to the script to avoid the AVG
redirection.

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webado  
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(1 user)  More options Sep 3 2008, 11:00 am
From: webado
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 18:00:21 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Sep 3 2008 11:00 am
Subject: Re: An easy way to make your 404 pages useful!
I use AVG and have never seen such a redirection.
I don't use the AVG toolbar though.

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bluegill01  
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 More options Sep 7 2008, 4:06 am
From: bluegill01
Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 11:06:25 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sun, Sep 7 2008 4:06 am
Subject: Re: An easy way to make your 404 pages useful!
It works, but it doesn't list any pages for my site or anything - only
in the sidebar.

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barcode  
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 More options Sep 8 2008, 6:38 pm
From: barcode
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 01:38:30 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Sep 8 2008 6:38 pm
Subject: Re: An easy way to make your 404 pages useful!
Hi,

I've created a customer 404 page with google widget. If you type an
incorrect URL, it shows the error page. But it doesn't search my site
or suggest the URLs. Can anyone help? The website is www.barcode-uk.com

Thank you


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(1 user)  More options Sep 26 2008, 5:05 pm
From: Pratik
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 00:05:39 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Sep 26 2008 5:05 pm
Subject: Re: An easy way to make your 404 pages useful!
Hi,

404 widget is a brilliant idea. Though before implementing I have a
couple of questions.
1. Does the widget check if the suggested URL is a valid (HTTP  status
being 200) URL?
2. What if I do not want to show the Search box? Is there an option?
Ideally I would like to have only the suggested URL and use our own
site search box rather than taking the user to the Google website.

Thanks

Pratik Thakkar


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JohnMu Google employee  
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 More options Sep 26 2008, 8:59 pm
From: JohnMu
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 03:59:05 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Sep 26 2008 8:59 pm
Subject: Re: An easy way to make your 404 pages useful!
Hi Pratik and welcome to the groups!

No, the widget does not check the HTTP result code, but I would
strongly discourage using any other result code than 404 on a page-not-
found error page :).

You can hide the search box using CSS, there's an example on the
previous page of this thread:
http://groups.google.com/group/Google_Webmaster_Help-Indexing/browse_...

Hope it helps!
John


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Julian Burgess  
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 More options Oct 7 2008, 6:45 pm
From: Julian Burgess
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 01:45:24 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Oct 7 2008 6:45 pm
Subject: Re: An easy way to make your 404 pages useful!
Is there a way to put Adsense in to the search?

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Pratik  
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 More options Oct 15 2008, 7:46 pm
From: Pratik
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 02:46:16 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Oct 15 2008 7:46 pm
Subject: Re: An easy way to make your 404 pages useful!
Brilliant

Thanks for the update.

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Daniel Hofverberg  
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 More options Nov 26 2008, 12:23 pm
From: Daniel Hofverberg
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 17:23:51 -0800 (PST)
Local: Wed, Nov 26 2008 12:23 pm
Subject: Re: An easy way to make your 404 pages useful!
The 404 widget is a good idea, however there is one problem with it.
The widget automatically uses UTF-8 encoding, so it doesn't work too
well on pages using Latin1 (ISO-8859-1) encoding. On such pages,
International characters will look very weird.

Is there any way to tell the widget to display the text using
ISO-8859-1 encoding instead, or are there any plans to add such a
feature? As my entire site uses Latin1 encoding, I really don't want
to use another encoding just for the 404 pages...

Sincerely,

Daniel Hofverberg


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