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 More options Sep 9 2006, 3:39 am
From: "bobloblian" <b...@computerisms.ca>
Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 17:39:19 -0000
Local: Sat, Sep 9 2006 3:39 am
Subject: xorg related problems
Hi, I just need a push in the right direction, I have exhausted all my
ideas and everything I can find on google.  The problem has a bit of
history, so please bear with me...
I installed debian with a desktop environment to a computer for a
person, everything went great.  Took it to her place, the only problem
I ran into was that she has an lcd monitor, and when I installed, I
used a crt.  the monitor gives an out of range signal whenever the
xorg.conf file contains any resolution higher than 800x600 in the
default depth.  Her sight is not so good, and her old windows computer
was always at that resolution anyway, so it was no big deal, but I went
and tried a few times to resolve the issue.  it never did get resolved,
but that is not the current problem, but it might be relevant, so I
mention it....
The current problem is that I did a dist-upgrade last night, and due to
an ssl thing it recommended I reboot the computer.  being lazy, I did,
but when I did, gdm would not start.
I am getting in the xorg.conf errors regarding /dev/agpgart - no such
file or directory, and /dev/input/mice - no such file or directory.
since the agpgart issue comes first, I am trying to sovle that one
first.
the chip is an intel brookdale-G, xorg detects it as an i810 chip.
This worked before...
As per google, this seems most likely to be an issue with the kernel.
I do however have in my kernel config all AGP options selected as
modules, and I have loaded intel_agp and agpgart modules.  There was an
error in the logs regarding a bios setting, it suggested enabling the
displayinfo option, which I did, and that problem resolved, though the
agpgart issue not being found has not.
I also used makedev agpgart, it exited without errors, but when I tried
to ls -al /dev/agpgart, the file did not exist.  the file
/dev/.static/dev/agpgart shows up, but when I tried to copy it to
/dev/, it says the file does not exist.  Apart from the no such file or
directory error, I could not find a single "error" or "failed" in the
xorg log until the very end where it craps out on the pointer device.
All of this is contrary to anything I can find on google, everything I
found there says something about not being enabled in the kernel, or
permission denied, or something that I could at least fix, but I can
find no error to track down.
the /dev/input/mice issue behaves the same way, it resides in
/dev/.static, but cannot be copied or otherwise manipulated, as an
error will tell me it does not exist...
Rather than throw a temper tantrum, cuz that never fixes things anyway,
I left and said I would think about the problem, which I have been
doing for some time, and I still have no solutions.  The only other
thing I have been able to think of, though I don't know enough about it
to say if its a reasonable thought or not, is that udev itself has
somehow gone screwey...
I do not have the computer in front of me, but I will be back to it in
a couple of hours, if anyone has a suggestion for me, I would very much
appreciate any input...

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 More options Sep 9 2006, 5:18 pm
From: "bobloblian" <b...@computerisms.ca>
Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 07:18:02 -0000
Local: Sat, Sep 9 2006 5:18 pm
Subject: Re: xorg related problems
so I went back and pissed around with the computer some more today.  I
took an s3virge video card with me, plugged it in and configured it,
that took care of the agpgart issue.  but the /dev/input/mice device
not found error still kept plaguing me, even with the
AllowOpenMouseFail option set in xorg.conf, I could not get gdm to
start for quite a while.
The mouse is a usb device, and I was able to finally get gdm to start
up, but the mouse still doesn't work.  what I did to make it work was
set the device option to /dev/bus/usb/003/001.  this, presumably, lets
xorg see the mouse and start up, but not access it for usage?  I am
able to use the keyboard to navigate around in gnome, can open
applications and use them.  The picture shows up as quite fuzzy at
first, but over about two minutes clears up nicely.  Also, adding
resolutions higher than 800x600 to the xorg.conf file no longer brings
up the out of range signal on the monitor.
I am becoming more certain that udev is the source of the problem,
perhaps during the upgrade I did, udev changed its behaviour
somehow....  When I use MAKEDEV to create input devices, I get an error
like udev is active:creating device in /dev/.static, just like the
agpgart problem.  Clearly I need more education on udev to make a
determination - it would seem I have my wires crossed about using
makedev and having udev run at the same time.  I didn't find much
looking at man pages and such, will do an online investigation.
Any suggestions on any homework I should be doing are again welcome and
appreciated...

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 More options Sep 11 2006, 12:18 pm
From: "bobloblian" <b...@computerisms.ca>
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 02:18:50 -0000
Local: Mon, Sep 11 2006 12:18 pm
Subject: Re: xorg related problems
problem got figured, turned out it was udev, it was not starting at
boot, due to a broken sysvinit update.

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