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Steven Schneider  
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 More options May 1 2006, 1:43 pm
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.openbsd.misc
From: Steven Schneider <steven_schnei...@telus.net>
Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 03:43:43 GMT
Local: Mon, May 1 2006 1:43 pm
Subject: Re: PF inadequacy: queue download
* kestas....@gmail.com <kestas....@gmail.com> [2006-04-30]:

> Thanks for the help, but I still don't think you understand.

I spent a fair bit of today researching the issue to make sure that
I understand you better.  I believe I do now.

> This isn't
> a limitation in my understanding of PF and ALTQ, this is a limitation
> of PF and ALTQ itself; you cannot shape traffic coming in on an
> interface.

Yes, I was aware that it can't and that this is a limitation of
PF/ALTQ.  I'm not entirely convinced that it's serious one, however.

Do you have access to any documents that show measurable advantages
that queuing incoming traffic would have over not queuing it?
Personally, I've been finding mostly "ad hoc" accounts being cited
as evidence for shaping incoming traffic.

> There's no good reason why you shouldn't be able to do this.
> I want to know how I can get this added to a todo list, everyone who
> has a firm grasp of PF and ALTQ, and isn't a zealot, agrees that this
> is an important feature which PF lacks, and should be implemented asap.

Your statement assumes that anyone who disagrees with you has a poor
grasp of PF/ALTQ, and is a zealot.  That polarizes things just a
bit, don't you think?

Keeping in mind that I'm not a developer myself, the following
points might be helpful.

If you could demonstrate the importance of shaping incoming traffic
to Theo and the developers.  Better yet, submit a patch, that might
go further than simply telling them that it, "should be implemented
asap."

Generous donations may also help.  I hear that they're rather fond
of a good beer.  :-)

--
W. Steven Schneider  <steven_schnei...@telus.net>


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