I was just sitting here, thinking about the crappy economic times, and all the money I've spent on games over the years. Some of which have been big disappointments, yet others which provided an entertainment value which, if measured in hours, would have surely beaten any other form of entertainment out there. There have been a few games where I've literally gotten several hundred hours of fun out of them, where the total cost would come out to pennies per hour.
So I started thinking about my current *AVERAGE* monthly cost as a percentage of my current net income (not necessarily historical, just over the last 24 months or so). Just of the games itself, not the hobby at large (i.e. hardware, internet connection etc).
So the figure I came up with is approximately 1% of my total net monthly income. By contrast my car payment is about 7% and my housing rent is about 22%.
Just curious what your breakdiown looks like.. not asking what your salary is, just the percentage.
>I was just sitting here, thinking about the crappy economic times, and > all the money I've spent on games over the years. Some of which have > been big disappointments, yet others which provided an entertainment > value which, if measured in hours, would have surely beaten any other > form of entertainment out there. There have been a few games where > I've literally gotten several hundred hours of fun out of them, where > the total cost would come out to pennies per hour.
> So I started thinking about my current *AVERAGE* monthly cost as a > percentage of my current net income (not necessarily historical, just > over the last 24 months or so). Just of the games itself, not the > hobby at large (i.e. hardware, internet connection etc).
> So the figure I came up with is approximately 1% of my total net > monthly income. By contrast my car payment is about 7% and my housing > rent is about 22%.
> Just curious what your breakdiown looks like.. not asking what your > salary is, just the percentage.
Not sure, but it might be more relevant to include all the costs in running a PC for gaming?
For example, I pay £25 per month for my ISP as others have used traffic shaping which affected Steam and other online games; I probably spend about £150 - £200 per year in upgrades - then there's the games at perhaps an average of £30 per month.
Kory wrote: > Just curious what your breakdiown looks like.. not asking what your > salary is, just the percentage.
I buy almost every game that comes out for PC and PS3 just so I have a valid reason to bitch about them and I estimate that is a about 0.000001% of my income per month.
On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 08:50:04 -0000, "Schrodinger" <n...@way.com> wrote:
>"Kory" <korr...@none.com> wrote in message >news:081af55t73hgjjgedv7v66fqfuuvvdlv44@4ax.com... >>I was just sitting here, thinking about the crappy economic times, and >> all the money I've spent on games over the years. Some of which have >> been big disappointments, yet others which provided an entertainment >> value which, if measured in hours, would have surely beaten any other >> form of entertainment out there. There have been a few games where >> I've literally gotten several hundred hours of fun out of them, where >> the total cost would come out to pennies per hour.
>> So I started thinking about my current *AVERAGE* monthly cost as a >> percentage of my current net income (not necessarily historical, just >> over the last 24 months or so). Just of the games itself, not the >> hobby at large (i.e. hardware, internet connection etc).
>> So the figure I came up with is approximately 1% of my total net >> monthly income. By contrast my car payment is about 7% and my housing >> rent is about 22%.
>> Just curious what your breakdiown looks like.. not asking what your >> salary is, just the percentage.
>Not sure, but it might be more relevant to include all the costs in running >a PC for gaming?
Not more relevant to the question as asked :)
I was specifically asking for games purchased expressed as a percentage of net income. I'm not looking for the total spent per month, I'm looking for what percentage of a persons net salary is spent on games.
To know that, I really don't need to know how much someone makes or what the total they spend on games, but the question does require the respondant to do a small amount of math (average monthly amount spent on games divided by total after-tax income).
I was excluding things like ISP cost because for most its used for non-gaming purposes as well as gaming -- most people would have a PC
Remember the goal here is not to figure the average total cost of gaming, just the question stated in the title.. Although we can certainly open up the thread to a little off-topic straying fun once we get some responses in :)
The rationale to asking the question is nothing too elaborate or intrusive, just to get a feel for the relative expenditure on game titles of folks in this newsgroup (which I think is an interesting sample group, because I think most folks who still use this newsgroup will have been involved in PC gaming for quite some time, since usenet is long past its mainstream popularity peak and newcomers to the net dont use it).
On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 06:20:46 -0800, Elmer Fudd <e...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>Kory wrote:
>> Just curious what your breakdiown looks like.. not asking what your >> salary is, just the percentage.
>I buy almost every game that comes out for PC and PS3 just so I have a >valid reason to bitch about them and I estimate that is a about >0.000001% of my income per month.
Check your estimations.
In order to get to .000001 of your income, you would have to earn over $60,000,000 USD per month, after taxes, if you bought one PS3 title per month at $60 USD.
Kory wrote: > In order to get to .000001 of your income, you would have to earn over > $60,000,000 USD per month, after taxes, if you bought one PS3 title > per month at $60 USD.
On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 09:36:20 -0800, Elmer Fudd <e...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>Kory wrote:
>> In order to get to .000001 of your income, you would have to earn over >> $60,000,000 USD per month, after taxes, if you bought one PS3 title >> per month at $60 USD.
>Correct.
Excellent, your credibility rating going forward has been secured.
On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 06:20:46 -0800, Elmer Fudd <e...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>I buy almost every game that comes out for PC and PS3 just so I have a >valid reason to bitch about them and I estimate that is a about >0.000001% of my income per month.
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Kory wrote: > I was just sitting here, thinking about the crappy economic times, and > all the money I've spent on games over the years. Some of which have > been big disappointments, yet others which provided an entertainment > value which, if measured in hours, would have surely beaten any other > form of entertainment out there. There have been a few games where > I've literally gotten several hundred hours of fun out of them, where > the total cost would come out to pennies per hour.
> So I started thinking about my current *AVERAGE* monthly cost as a > percentage of my current net income (not necessarily historical, just > over the last 24 months or so). Just of the games itself, not the > hobby at large (i.e. hardware, internet connection etc).
> So the figure I came up with is approximately 1% of my total net > monthly income. By contrast my car payment is about 7% and my housing > rent is about 22%.
> Just curious what your breakdiown looks like.. not asking what your > salary is, just the percentage.
To be honest I try and not think about how much I spend a month. I buy a LOT of games. But I never pay full price. I get my games from three places. Steam (their new weekly and weekend sales are hard to pass up). GoGamer (48 hour sales are great) and Amazon, where I always buy from one of their "Amazon Merchants" I get some killer deals this way. I'm not great at math, but I spend around $50-80 a month on PC games. I don't have a next gen console. This is my only hobby really, so that's how I rationalize the cost.
On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 00:22:25 -0500, Legion <Leg...@Invalid.com> wrote: >>Just curious what your breakdiown looks like.. not asking what your >>salary is, just the percentage.
>Zero
Pirating little cunts aren't eligible for this survey, since they aren't saving anything. They are just guaranteeing that PC games will be permanently supplanted by console games, so they will end up paying much more per game in the end.
JLC wrote: > To be honest I try and not think about how much I spend a month. I buy a > LOT of games. But I never pay full price. I get my games from three > places. Steam (their new weekly and weekend sales are hard to pass up). > GoGamer (48 hour sales are great)
Impulse Driven, GamersGate and Direct2Drive also have weekend sales and GamerGate has mid-week sales sometimes too. Those download purchase sites belong on your scouting list just as much as Steam. In fact they are better than Steam because they don't require a crap front end client like Steam does. GamersGate has issues with slow downloads for N.A. but that is because the server is in Europe. They told me they are adding a new U.S. server in early December so will solve that issue.
On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 07:32:56 +1100, Nostromo <nos...@forme.org> wrote: >Thus spake Jellybean <je...@example.invalid>, Sun, 08 Nov 2009 09:50:50 >-0800, Anno Domini:
>>Legion wrote:
>>> Zero
>>Yea, and little shits like you cost people like me plenty of aggro due >>to copy protection. Time for a lynching mob. ;)
>You should both get a room (or find a hood to have it out in once & for all) >& just leave us big old copyright revolutionary cunts out of it! ;-p
>Do we count online game subs in this pointless exercise?
If you're the type that assumes its pointless just because you don't understand it, you fall way below the IQ range I was looking for in a sample group.
Who granted you the god-given right to a straight answer?
I'm sure just about everybody understood the question, but absolutely nobody has any compulsion to answer in the way that you would prefer. And given your attitude elsewhere in this thread, I'd be surprised if they will be queuing up to answer any more of your questions in *any* way at all.
>On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 07:32:56 +1100, Nostromo <nos...@forme.org> wrote:
>>Thus spake Jellybean <je...@example.invalid>, Sun, 08 Nov 2009 09:50:50 >>-0800, Anno Domini:
>>>Legion wrote:
>>>> Zero
>>>Yea, and little shits like you cost people like me plenty of aggro due >>>to copy protection. Time for a lynching mob. ;)
>>You should both get a room (or find a hood to have it out in once & for all) >>& just leave us big old copyright revolutionary cunts out of it! ;-p
>>Do we count online game subs in this pointless exercise?
>If you're the type that assumes its pointless just because you don't >understand it, you fall way below the IQ range I was looking for in a >sample group.
It is pointless & useless unless there's a point & a use for your stamp collecting exercise. Which you haven't shared with anyone, so why should we share our personal financial details with you ffs? I'd call you an arrogant cunt, but cunts are generally useful. But I guess you wouldn't know that.
On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:29:27 +1100, Nostromo <nos...@forme.org> wrote: >Thus spake Kory <korr...@none.com>, Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:17:27 -0500, Anno >Domini:
>>On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 07:32:56 +1100, Nostromo <nos...@forme.org> wrote:
>>>Thus spake Jellybean <je...@example.invalid>, Sun, 08 Nov 2009 09:50:50 >>>-0800, Anno Domini:
>>>>Legion wrote:
>>>>> Zero
>>>>Yea, and little shits like you cost people like me plenty of aggro due >>>>to copy protection. Time for a lynching mob. ;)
>>>You should both get a room (or find a hood to have it out in once & for all) >>>& just leave us big old copyright revolutionary cunts out of it! ;-p
>>>Do we count online game subs in this pointless exercise?
>>If you're the type that assumes its pointless just because you don't >>understand it, you fall way below the IQ range I was looking for in a >>sample group.
>It is pointless & useless unless there's a point & a use for your stamp >collecting exercise. Which you haven't shared with anyone, so why should we >share our personal financial details with you ffs?
I actually specifically asked you to NOT share personal financial details when I said I don't need to know how much you make. I was asking for a simple percentage that could have been done by anyone with a 4th grade math education and at the same time would have precluded the need to give out any of the aspect of financial details which are remotely personal, such as total salary.
However you seem to have achieved a grade of Epic Fail, not only in math but in reading comprehension. They have special schools for tards like yourself. Thanks for playing douchebag.
On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 02:45:16 -0500, Legion <Leg...@Invalid.com> wrote: >On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 08:10:03 -0500, Kory <korr...@none.com> wrote:
>>On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 00:22:25 -0500, Legion <Leg...@Invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>Just curious what your breakdiown looks like.. not asking what your >>>>salary is, just the percentage.
>>>Zero
>>Pirating little cunts aren't eligible for this survey, since they >>aren't saving anything. They are just guaranteeing that PC games will >>be permanently supplanted by console games, so they will end up paying >>much more per game in the end.
> LOL donk. >You calling folks names is lible to get one punched out in the real >world.
In the real world I would have knocked you clear across the room before you finished that sentence, twat blood.
On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 08:10:03 -0500, Kory <korr...@none.com> wrote: >On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 00:22:25 -0500, Legion <Leg...@Invalid.com> wrote:
>>>Just curious what your breakdiown looks like.. not asking what your >>>salary is, just the percentage.
>>Zero
>Pirating little cunts aren't eligible for this survey, since they >aren't saving anything. They are just guaranteeing that PC games will >be permanently supplanted by console games, so they will end up paying >much more per game in the end.
On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:29:27 +1100, Nostromo <nos...@forme.org> wrote: >Thus spake Kory <korr...@none.com>, Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:17:27 -0500, Anno >Domini:
>>On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 07:32:56 +1100, Nostromo <nos...@forme.org> wrote:
>>>Thus spake Jellybean <je...@example.invalid>, Sun, 08 Nov 2009 09:50:50 >>>-0800, Anno Domini:
>>>>Legion wrote:
>>>>> Zero
>>>>Yea, and little shits like you cost people like me plenty of aggro due >>>>to copy protection. Time for a lynching mob. ;)
>>>You should both get a room (or find a hood to have it out in once & for all) >>>& just leave us big old copyright revolutionary cunts out of it! ;-p
>>>Do we count online game subs in this pointless exercise?
>>If you're the type that assumes its pointless just because you don't >>understand it, you fall way below the IQ range I was looking for in a >>sample group.
>It is pointless & useless unless there's a point & a use for your stamp >collecting exercise. Which you haven't shared with anyone, so why should we >share our personal financial details with you ffs? >I'd call you an arrogant cunt, but cunts are generally useful. But I guess >you wouldn't know that.
Kory is odd - a troll, but one for forgot to set up a follow-up score group ?
> On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:29:27 +1100, Nostromo <nos...@forme.org> wrote:
>>Thus spake Kory <korr...@none.com>, Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:17:27 -0500, Anno >>Domini:
>>>On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 07:32:56 +1100, Nostromo <nos...@forme.org> wrote:
>>>>Thus spake Jellybean <je...@example.invalid>, Sun, 08 Nov 2009 09:50:50 >>>>-0800, Anno Domini:
>>>>>Legion wrote:
>>>>>> Zero
>>>>>Yea, and little shits like you cost people like me plenty of aggro due >>>>>to copy protection. Time for a lynching mob. ;)
>>>>You should both get a room (or find a hood to have it out in once & for >>>>all) >>>>& just leave us big old copyright revolutionary cunts out of it! ;-p
>>>>Do we count online game subs in this pointless exercise?
>>>If you're the type that assumes its pointless just because you don't >>>understand it, you fall way below the IQ range I was looking for in a >>>sample group.
>>It is pointless & useless unless there's a point & a use for your stamp >>collecting exercise. Which you haven't shared with anyone, so why should >>we >>share our personal financial details with you ffs?
> I actually specifically asked you to NOT share personal financial > details when I said I don't need to know how much you make. I was > asking for a simple percentage that could have been done by anyone > with a 4th grade math education and at the same time would have > precluded the need to give out any of the aspect of financial details > which are remotely personal, such as total salary.
> However you seem to have achieved a grade of Epic Fail, not only in > math but in reading comprehension. They have special schools for > tards like yourself. Thanks for playing douchebag.
What's 4th grade? I'm not American so have no idea what your comment means. I assume by the language you use you attend the equivalent to a low ofsted comprehensive school?
On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 12:36:56 -0500, Legion <Leg...@Invalid.com> wrote: >On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 08:23:26 -0500, Kory <korr...@none.com> wrote:
>>On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 02:45:16 -0500, Legion <Leg...@Invalid.com> wrote:
>>>On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 08:10:03 -0500, Kory <korr...@none.com> wrote:
>>>>On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 00:22:25 -0500, Legion <Leg...@Invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>Just curious what your breakdiown looks like.. not asking what your >>>>>>salary is, just the percentage.
>>>>>Zero
>>>>Pirating little cunts aren't eligible for this survey, since they >>>>aren't saving anything. They are just guaranteeing that PC games will >>>>be permanently supplanted by console games, so they will end up paying >>>>much more per game in the end.
>>> LOL donk. >>>You calling folks names is lible to get one punched out in the real >>>world.
>>In the real world I would have knocked you clear across the room >>before you finished that sentence, twat blood.
> Twat blood......lol. Now I know your a teenybopper. >Oh, I am retired military and I hope we get a chance to meet so >you can have a shot at "knocking me clear across the room".
No worries, I once beat an active marines ass to the point he would need to invest in some dental work to continue with solid food, so an old has been like yourself would be cake.
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