> David Cowie wrote: >> On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 17:12:06 +0200, Walter Mitty wrote:
>>>American accents? Totally out of place.
>> Does Thief 3 takes place in England ?
> And interestingly, if you've studied the history of the english language > you see that the way american english sounds is closer to old english > than modern british english.
> /kars
Source? Since none of the origins of the English language (Celts, Romans, Angles, Saxons, Jutes) sound anything like Americans I find this hard to believe : I'd love to see the facts.
Walter Mitty wrote: > Kars <nob...@nothing.com> brightened my day with his incisive wit when in > news:408cf82c@puffinus.its.uu.se he conjectured that:
>>David Cowie wrote:
>>>On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 17:12:06 +0200, Walter Mitty wrote:
>>>>American accents? Totally out of place.
>>>Does Thief 3 takes place in England ?
>>And interestingly, if you've studied the history of the english language >>you see that the way american english sounds is closer to old english >>than modern british english.
>>/kars
> Source? Since none of the origins of the English language (Celts, Romans, > Angles, Saxons, Jutes) sound anything like Americans I find this hard to > believe : I'd love to see the facts.
It seems I haven't my "History of the English language" at hand (course literature from when I studied English at Uppsala University (Sweden)). Then again, it might have been something a lecturer said, so unfortunately I can't back up my claim right now :/
>>> Who the hell sanctioned the release of this footage? It looks like a >>> 3 year old was playing it and confused it for Unreal Tournament. No >>> sneaking, missing from 3 feet away with the bow, constant use of gas >>> & fire arrows. Bouncing off walls.
>> I agree, nice move where he/she ran over 2 of thier own mines :P
>> This person went in rambo style but the game can be played as the >> player feels like. This footage may have been made to show the xbox >> ADD yung'uns that you don't 'have' to play the stealth angle, which >> kinda sucks, imho.
> A stealth game should enforece "Stealth" IMO. Otherwise, when you fuck up > in stealth mode, you don't pay the price - you just rambo the enemies.
Exactly! This is what I fear this game has become...
>>>> Who the hell sanctioned the release of this footage? It looks like a >>>> 3 year old was playing it and confused it for Unreal Tournament. No >>>> sneaking, missing from 3 feet away with the bow, constant use of gas >>>> & fire arrows. Bouncing off walls.
>>> I agree, nice move where he/she ran over 2 of thier own mines :P
>>> This person went in rambo style but the game can be played as the >>> player feels like. This footage may have been made to show the xbox >>> ADD yung'uns that you don't 'have' to play the stealth angle, which >>> kinda sucks, imho.
>> A stealth game should enforece "Stealth" IMO. Otherwise, when you fuck up >> in stealth mode, you don't pay the price - you just rambo the enemies.
>Exactly! This is what I fear this game has become...
Yeah, they're not flash-bombs anymore, they're flash-grenades! Simply blow the door off its hinges with a shotgun-arrow, toss a flash-grenade into the room and then storm in and machine-bow the guards in the head.
On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 16:45:04 +0800, "mr bernard langham"
<notactua...@spammenot.com> wrote: >David Cowie wrote: >> On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 17:12:06 +0200, Walter Mitty wrote:
>>> American accents? Totally out of place.
>> Does Thief 3 takes place in England ?
>Since the New World was not colonised until well after Europe had emerged >from the Dark Ages, the sight of a mediaeval knight, peasant, or otherwise >inclined person speaking with a broad modern American accent is a complete >anachronism and, to many people, extremely irritating.
In other words, all "medieval" games take place in England. ;)
On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 18:20:05 +0800, "mr bernard langham"
<notactua...@spammenot.com> wrote: >pk wrote: >>> An interesting parallel. Indeed, while Hollywood (and Ion Storm) may >>> have contempt for their audience, Looking Glass Studios (the >>> creators of the Thief series) did not. This is basically the root of >>> the matter.
>> I think you'll find Garrett in the original series had a seppo accent.
Dude, that's cuz he was a THIEF! His accent was STOLEN, man.
>>>> Who the hell sanctioned the release of this footage? It looks like a >>>> 3 year old was playing it and confused it for Unreal Tournament. No >>>> sneaking, missing from 3 feet away with the bow, constant use of gas >>>> & fire arrows. Bouncing off walls.
>>> I agree, nice move where he/she ran over 2 of thier own mines :P
>>> This person went in rambo style but the game can be played as the >>> player feels like. This footage may have been made to show the xbox >>> ADD yung'uns that you don't 'have' to play the stealth angle, which >>> kinda sucks, imho.
>> A stealth game should enforece "Stealth" IMO. Otherwise, when you fuck up >> in stealth mode, you don't pay the price - you just rambo the enemies.
>Exactly! This is what I fear this game has become...
A fact some people seem desperate to ignore. Here's looking at you monkey boy! Don't need time travel to realise this one was headed the same way that DX:IW went, even as far back as when IS were advertising for someone with experience of 3rd person action titles to work on a stealth game.
>>>>> Who the hell sanctioned the release of this footage? It looks like a >>>>> 3 year old was playing it and confused it for Unreal Tournament. No >>>>> sneaking, missing from 3 feet away with the bow, constant use of gas >>>>> & fire arrows. Bouncing off walls.
>>>> I agree, nice move where he/she ran over 2 of thier own mines :P
>>>> This person went in rambo style but the game can be played as the >>>> player feels like. This footage may have been made to show the xbox >>>> ADD yung'uns that you don't 'have' to play the stealth angle, which >>>> kinda sucks, imho.
>>> A stealth game should enforece "Stealth" IMO. Otherwise, when you fuck up >>> in stealth mode, you don't pay the price - you just rambo the enemies.
>>Exactly! This is what I fear this game has become...
>Yeah, they're not flash-bombs anymore, they're flash-grenades! Simply >blow the door off its hinges with a shotgun-arrow, toss a flash-grenade >into the room and then storm in and machine-bow the guards in the head.
>> Walter Mitty <mitticus.remo.v...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>> What the hell has been done to this game?
>> the same thing that was done to deas ex 2. weren't you insulting people >> for complaining about the dumbing down of that game?
>No. I never insulted anyone : I merely questioned the sincerity/validity of >some of the "I'll never buy this shit" brigade : most of whom had never >even played the game.
>Thief is a Stealth game, not an FPS Action Shooter.
>>> Walter Mitty <mitticus.remo.v...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> What the hell has been done to this game?
>>> the same thing that was done to deas ex 2. weren't you insulting people >>> for complaining about the dumbing down of that game?
>>No. I never insulted anyone : I merely questioned the sincerity/validity of >>some of the "I'll never buy this shit" brigade : most of whom had never >>even played the game.
>>Thief is a Stealth game, not an FPS Action Shooter.
>Until now that is.
If that IS the case, I hope the modders go to town on it - guads that are so tough you're lucky to kill 1, let alone a house full.
Assuming they release the mod tools.
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>>>> Walter Mitty <mitticus.remo.v...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>> What the hell has been done to this game?
>>>> the same thing that was done to deas ex 2. weren't you insulting people >>>> for complaining about the dumbing down of that game?
>>>No. I never insulted anyone : I merely questioned the sincerity/validity of >>>some of the "I'll never buy this shit" brigade : most of whom had never >>>even played the game.
>>>Thief is a Stealth game, not an FPS Action Shooter.
>>Until now that is.
>If that IS the case, I hope the modders go to town on it - guads that >are so tough you're lucky to kill 1, let alone a house full.
>Assuming they release the mod tools.
Console games don't need publicly-available mod-tools.
>Bunnies aren't just cute like everybody supposes ! >They got them hoppy legs and twitchy little noses ! >And what's with all the carrots ? >What do they need such good eyesight for anyway ? >Bunnies ! Bunnies ! It must be BUNNIES !
>>>>> Walter Mitty <mitticus.remo.v...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>> What the hell has been done to this game?
>>>>> the same thing that was done to deas ex 2. weren't you insulting people >>>>> for complaining about the dumbing down of that game?
>>>>No. I never insulted anyone : I merely questioned the sincerity/validity of >>>>some of the "I'll never buy this shit" brigade : most of whom had never >>>>even played the game.
>>>>Thief is a Stealth game, not an FPS Action Shooter.
>>>Until now that is.
>>If that IS the case, I hope the modders go to town on it - guads that >>are so tough you're lucky to kill 1, let alone a house full.
>>Assuming they release the mod tools.
>Console games don't need publicly-available mod-tools.
>John Lewis
I'll playing it on the PC, not the XBox.
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>"Xocyll" <Xoc...@kingston.net> wrote in message >news:mvqn80p3ppgtk28t5u8mve8kv835oscte9@4ax.com... >> mardi <e...@mail.com> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn >> spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:
>> >> On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 16:45:04 +0800, "mr bernard langham" >> >> <notactua...@spammenot.com> wrote:
>> >>>Since the New World was not colonised until well after Europe had >emerged >> >>>from the Dark Ages, the sight of a mediaeval knight, peasant, or >otherwise >> >>>inclined person speaking with a broad modern American accent is a >complete >> >>>anachronism and, to many people, extremely irritating.
>> >> Hollywood doesn't worry about historical accuracy, why should a US >> >> game developer be any different.
>> >While true historical accuracy would be nice it can't be expected from a >> >friggin video game.
>> Sure it can. >> Especially when it's the third installment in a series where the first >> two did things properly.
>> >I, as an american, would rather have 'old world' >> >accents but I'm not gonna bunch my proverbial panties over it.
>> It's the equivalent of having M-16s, M1-A1 tanks or Harriers in BF1942.
>Yes, imagine if the LGS Thief games had included things like submarines, >proximity mines, flashbombs, bionic eye replacements, wireless portable >remote cameras, steam-powered robotic guards with advanced friend-foe >identification and attack algorithms and built in trojan/spyware...
>Err... wait a second.
Thief isn't a historical reenactment. It can have all sorts of "steam punk" type stuff while remaining internally consistent.
BF1942 is supposed to be historically accurate for equipment so having m16s, m1-a1 tanks and harriers would not only be anachronistic it would be non-consistent.
If thief 1, 2 and 3 are all supposed to be in the same city/area, the voices shouldn't have changed unless there's been an invasion.
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