This is the second Unreal mod I've come across this week. Prometheus is supposedly a single player co-op game along the lines of Portal and Mirror's Edge. It has an interesting time twisting premise involving your own character from the past, present and future.
Unlike the more recent "Out of Hell" mod (which needed UT2K4 installed), you won't need to have any UE3 games installed provided that you have the recently released UDK already installed. The UDK weighs in at 562MB
Mr Rob wrote: > This is the second Unreal mod I've come across this week. Prometheus > is supposedly a single player co-op game along the lines of Portal and > Mirror's Edge. It has an interesting time twisting premise involving > your own character from the past, present and future.
> Unlike the more recent "Out of Hell" mod (which needed UT2K4 > installed), you won't need to have any UE3 games installed provided > that you have the recently released UDK already installed. The UDK > weighs in at 562MB
On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 09:01:42 +0000, Schrodinger <n...@way.com> wrote: >> Unlike the more recent "Out of Hell" mod (which needed UT2K4 >> installed), you won't need to have any UE3 games installed provided >> that you have the recently released UDK already installed. The UDK >> weighs in at 562MB
Mr Rob wrote: > On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 09:01:42 +0000, Schrodinger <n...@way.com> wrote:
>>> Unlike the more recent "Out of Hell" mod (which needed UT2K4 >>> installed), you won't need to have any UE3 games installed provided >>> that you have the recently released UDK already installed. The UDK >>> weighs in at 562MB
Well, just managed to install the UDK on Win 7 64bit. I ended up having to run as admin with WinXP compatibility, install to drive other than C. Also it wouldn't work because a windows update was pending!
Off to download the games now.
Apropos nothing, I've had to be using Thunderbird as Win 7 doesn't come with Outlook Express and I hate it.
On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:09:03 +0000, Schrodinger <n...@way.com> wrote: >Well, just managed to install the UDK on Win 7 64bit. I ended up having >to run as admin with WinXP compatibility, install to drive other than C. > Also it wouldn't work because a windows update was pending!
>Off to download the games now.
>Apropos nothing, I've had to be using Thunderbird as Win 7 doesn't come >with Outlook Express and I hate it.
I know it's OT for the thread, but I cannot tolerate OE. I didn't realise it wasn't bundled with Windows 7 even though I've been using RC1 for almost 9 months.
I use Agent and have done for at least 10 years. I used to have Lotus Notes at work, which was pretty good, but since changing employers three years ago I'm forced to use Outlook.
I have used Thunderbird and Pegasus in the past. I like both of those but always end up going back to Agent. I guess it's just a case of what you're used to. -- Rob
<noemailforme...@jsjsaiiowppw.com> wrote: >I have used Thunderbird and Pegasus in the past. I like both of those >but always end up going back to Agent. I guess it's just a case of >what you're used to.
Agent is the software I have used since the early days of the net. I have never found anything nearly as good for Usenet. For email I have used Gmail since it started. -- Andrew, contact via http://interpleb.googlepages.com Help make Usenet a better place: English is read downwards, please don't top post. Trim replies to quote only relevant text. Check groups.google.com before asking an obvious question.
Mr Rob wrote: > On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:09:03 +0000, Schrodinger <n...@way.com> wrote:
>> Well, just managed to install the UDK on Win 7 64bit. I ended up having >> to run as admin with WinXP compatibility, install to drive other than C. >> Also it wouldn't work because a windows update was pending!
>> Off to download the games now.
>> Apropos nothing, I've had to be using Thunderbird as Win 7 doesn't come >> with Outlook Express and I hate it.
> I know it's OT for the thread, but I cannot tolerate OE. I didn't > realise it wasn't bundled with Windows 7 even though I've been using > RC1 for almost 9 months.
> I use Agent and have done for at least 10 years. I used to have Lotus > Notes at work, which was pretty good, but since changing employers > three years ago I'm forced to use Outlook.
> I have used Thunderbird and Pegasus in the past. I like both of those > but always end up going back to Agent. I guess it's just a case of > what you're used to.
It's just because I don't seem to be able to get it to organise the threads in the way OE does. Like you, I've been using OE for as long as I can remember so I'm just used to what it does and how it does it. When I get done jaffing around with these games and all the other Win7 stuff on my to do list, I'll look into how to make it act like OE I guess...
> Mr Rob wrote: >> On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:09:03 +0000, Schrodinger <n...@way.com> wrote:
>>> Well, just managed to install the UDK on Win 7 64bit. I ended up having >>> to run as admin with WinXP compatibility, install to drive other than C. >>> Also it wouldn't work because a windows update was pending!
>>> Off to download the games now.
>>> Apropos nothing, I've had to be using Thunderbird as Win 7 doesn't come >>> with Outlook Express and I hate it.
>> I know it's OT for the thread, but I cannot tolerate OE. I didn't >> realise it wasn't bundled with Windows 7 even though I've been using >> RC1 for almost 9 months.
>> I use Agent and have done for at least 10 years. I used to have Lotus >> Notes at work, which was pretty good, but since changing employers >> three years ago I'm forced to use Outlook. I have used Thunderbird and >> Pegasus in the past. I like both of those >> but always end up going back to Agent. I guess it's just a case of >> what you're used to.
> It's just because I don't seem to be able to get it to organise the > threads in the way OE does. Like you, I've been using OE for as long as I > can remember so I'm just used to what it does and how it does it. When I > get done jaffing around with these games and all the other Win7 stuff on > my to do list, I'll look into how to make it act like OE I guess...
You can download windows live mail. It's the same situation as Vista, except that at least has windows mail installed.
I'm posting using it now, I eventually got sick of how thunderbird organises threads and gone back to microsoft!
> "Schrodinger" <n...@way.com> wrote in message > news:QmzJm.11664$TK7.7298@newsfe18.ams2... >> Mr Rob wrote: >>> On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:09:03 +0000, Schrodinger <n...@way.com> wrote:
>>>> Well, just managed to install the UDK on Win 7 64bit. I ended up >>>> having to run as admin with WinXP compatibility, install to drive >>>> other than C. Also it wouldn't work because a windows update was >>>> pending!
>>>> Off to download the games now.
>>>> Apropos nothing, I've had to be using Thunderbird as Win 7 doesn't >>>> come with Outlook Express and I hate it.
>>> I know it's OT for the thread, but I cannot tolerate OE. I didn't >>> realise it wasn't bundled with Windows 7 even though I've been using >>> RC1 for almost 9 months.
>>> I use Agent and have done for at least 10 years. I used to have Lotus >>> Notes at work, which was pretty good, but since changing employers >>> three years ago I'm forced to use Outlook. I have used Thunderbird >>> and Pegasus in the past. I like both of those >>> but always end up going back to Agent. I guess it's just a case of >>> what you're used to.
>> It's just because I don't seem to be able to get it to organise the >> threads in the way OE does. Like you, I've been using OE for as long >> as I can remember so I'm just used to what it does and how it does it. >> When I get done jaffing around with these games and all the other Win7 >> stuff on my to do list, I'll look into how to make it act like OE I >> guess...
> You can download windows live mail. It's the same situation as Vista, > except that at least has windows mail installed.
> I'm posting using it now, I eventually got sick of how thunderbird > organises threads and gone back to microsoft!
Ah! I didn't want to install that in case it was anything to do with windows messenger. I'll have a look now - thanks.
>> You can download windows live mail. It's the same situation as Vista, >> except that at least has windows mail installed.
>> I'm posting using it now, I eventually got sick of how thunderbird >> organises threads and gone back to microsoft!
> Ah! I didn't want to install that in case it was anything to do with > windows messenger. I'll have a look now - thanks.
I installed Win7 last night on a friends laptop (I did mine on release). I put Outlook straight back on mine but he wanted Win mail (he got used to it with Vista)
You download the Live Essentials pack but can choose not to d-load messenger, toolbar and all the other crap that comes with the pack (though it has a few decent things like movie maker and photo gallery that are missing since Vista).
It did not however install Windows mail but Windows 'Live' Mail. This has a different folder structure so I wasn't able (yet) to restore his emails. Anybody find a solution for this let me know...
>>> You can download windows live mail. It's the same situation as Vista, >>> except that at least has windows mail installed.
>>> I'm posting using it now, I eventually got sick of how thunderbird >>> organises threads and gone back to microsoft!
>> Ah! I didn't want to install that in case it was anything to do with >> windows messenger. I'll have a look now - thanks.
> I installed Win7 last night on a friends laptop (I did mine on release). I > put Outlook straight back on mine but he wanted Win mail (he got used to > it with Vista)
> You download the Live Essentials pack but can choose not to d-load > messenger, toolbar and all the other crap that comes with the pack (though > it has a few decent things like movie maker and photo gallery that are > missing since Vista).
> It did not however install Windows mail but Windows 'Live' Mail. This has > a different folder structure so I wasn't able (yet) to restore his emails. > Anybody find a solution for this let me know...
I did see a workaround for this somewhere this morning, I'll have a look for it.
Other than that, I have downloaded Windows Live Mail and am posting from it now. Thx.
>Mr Rob wrote: >> This is the second Unreal mod I've come across this week. Prometheus >> is supposedly a single player co-op game along the lines of Portal and >> Mirror's Edge. It has an interesting time twisting premise involving >> your own character from the past, present and future.
>> Unlike the more recent "Out of Hell" mod (which needed UT2K4 >> installed), you won't need to have any UE3 games installed provided >> that you have the recently released UDK already installed. The UDK >> weighs in at 562MB
>>Well, just managed to install the UDK on Win 7 64bit. I ended up having >>to run as admin with WinXP compatibility, install to drive other than C. >> Also it wouldn't work because a windows update was pending!
>>Off to download the games now.
>>Apropos nothing, I've had to be using Thunderbird as Win 7 doesn't come >>with Outlook Express and I hate it.
>I know it's OT for the thread, but I cannot tolerate OE. I didn't >realise it wasn't bundled with Windows 7 even though I've been using >RC1 for almost 9 months.
>I use Agent and have done for at least 10 years. I used to have Lotus >Notes at work, which was pretty good, but since changing employers >three years ago I'm forced to use Outlook.
>I have used Thunderbird and Pegasus in the past. I like both of those >but always end up going back to Agent. I guess it's just a case of >what you're used to.
Same here. In fact when I did my final install of Win7 64 bit, I figured I'd upgrade to the newest version of Agent. I had been wondering how they were going to survive now that many service providers are dropping their usenet feeds and there are a pretty small core of people who will pay 10 bucks and up a month for giganews.
Found the answer when I went to upgrade Agent. They have contracted Easynews to become a usenet provider, including binaries. Check out the prices... They have a 12 gig tier for like 3 bucks a month. They have higher service tiers for pirat, er people that need more than that.
> So this entire mod is free or do you need any Unreal game installed?
It should have been a headline in this newsgroup. Epic released the full Unreal3 engine for free, with very reasonable usage limitations (e.g., you can make and sell a game with this and actually keep all income up to $5000, then they get a % after that). This really is a huge deal: Bring on Trespasser2!!
Thus spake "rms" <rsquires...@MOOflashMOO.net>, Mon, 9 Nov 2009 10:13:33 -0700, Anno Domini:
>> So this entire mod is free or do you need any Unreal game installed?
> It should have been a headline in this newsgroup. Epic released the >full Unreal3 engine for free, with very reasonable usage limitations (e.g., >you can make and sell a game with this and actually keep all income up to >$5000, then they get a % after that). This really is a huge deal: Bring on >Trespasser2!!
>rms
Trei kewl - cheers for the heads up! Off to d/l engine/base game + mod :).
Thus spake Nostromo <nos...@forme.org>, Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:00:21 +1100, Anno Domini:
>Thus spake "rms" <rsquires...@MOOflashMOO.net>, Mon, 9 Nov 2009 10:13:33 >-0700, Anno Domini:
>>> So this entire mod is free or do you need any Unreal game installed?
>> It should have been a headline in this newsgroup. Epic released the >>full Unreal3 engine for free, with very reasonable usage limitations (e.g., >>you can make and sell a game with this and actually keep all income up to >>$5000, then they get a % after that). This really is a huge deal: Bring on >>Trespasser2!!
>>rms
>Trei kewl - cheers for the heads up! Off to d/l engine/base game + mod :).
Hmmm...installed both the UDK & Prometheus on both an XP system & Win7x64. Both crap out when you run Prometheus after a few secs of the splash screen. Great.
On Wed, 11 Nov 2009, Nostromo wrote: > Thus spake Nostromo <nos...@forme.org>, Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:00:21 +1100, > Anno Domini:
> Hmmm...installed both the UDK & Prometheus on both an XP system & > Win7x64. Both crap out when you run Prometheus after a few secs of the > splash screen. Great.
Prometheus and the UDK run great on my 32bit XP machine and while I don't think this puzzle game is something for me, the idea is quite cool and the quality top notch! The same applies to the Ball demo although I won't buy or play the full game either. But for small independent companies looking for a professional engine to do their games the whole UDK thing is great!
-- Dr. Werner Spahl (sp...@cup.uni-muenchen.de) Freedom for Wesp5 @ Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines Vorlonships
Schrodinger wrote: > Apropos nothing, I've had to be using Thunderbird as Win 7 doesn't come > with Outlook Express and I hate it.
You have to download Microosft Essentials and it has Windows Live email, Movie Maker and a few other apps that don't come with Win7, they are all free.
I choose to run Thunderbird anyway because when I was running Win7RC and had Live installed a couple of games I had installed that used Live accounts opened up my Live Email (I guess to log in?)when I went to run the games, most annoying and I am now using Thunderbird on Win7 final to make sure it doesn't happen again.
Les Steel wrote: > I'm posting using it now, I eventually got sick of how thunderbird > organises threads and gone back to microsoft!
Thunderbird organizes them the same way so don't know what that complaint is for. You probably clicked one of the tabs at the top of the posts window and messed up the organization yourself. Also, Thunderbird bottom posts by default and not rudely top post like Outlook does.
Tim O wrote: > Found the answer when I went to upgrade Agent. They have contracted > Easynews to become a usenet provider, including binaries. > Check out the prices... They have a 12 gig tier for like 3 bucks a > month. They have higher service tiers for pirat, er people that need > more than that.
Astraweb is much butter than Easynews. With Astraweb you can buy by data amount so you don't have to may a monthly fee like with all the others. If all you mostly do on Usenet is text, a $20.00 purchase from Astraweb will last a year or two instead of paying $10.00 per month.
Thus spake Daffy Duck <D...@invalid.invalid>, Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:40:27 -0800, Anno Domini:
>Tim O wrote:
>> Found the answer when I went to upgrade Agent. They have contracted >> Easynews to become a usenet provider, including binaries. >> Check out the prices... They have a 12 gig tier for like 3 bucks a >> month. They have higher service tiers for pirat, er people that need >> more than that.
>Astraweb is much butter than Easynews. With Astraweb you can buy by data >amount so you don't have to may a monthly fee like with all the others. >If all you mostly do on Usenet is text, a $20.00 purchase from Astraweb >will last a year or two instead of paying $10.00 per month.
On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:09:51 -0800, Daffy Duck <D...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>Nostromo wrote:
>> Or you can use Motzarella for free! :)
>Not if you want to be a troll. They already booted me off of there, the >bastages.
Good grief.
Do ISP's and news feeds even bother with what people say on Usenet?
The overwhelmingly attractive thing about Usenet has always been the lack of moderation. Particularly in the alt*. hierarchy.
Was there ever more fun to be had than back in the days of dial-up, when we had the self appointed Usenet Police waving their RFC's around? The beauty of Usenet has always been that if somebody is being a complete and utter cnut, there's nothing to stop you from being an ever bigger cnut in return.
Surely people don't get booted off for trolling in this day and age? -- Rob
<noemailforme...@jsjsaiiowppw.com> wrote: >Was there ever more fun to be had than back in the days of dial-up, >when we had the self appointed Usenet Police waving their RFC's >around? The beauty of Usenet has always been that if somebody is >being a complete and utter cnut, there's nothing to stop you from >being an ever bigger cnut in return.
For me the beauty of Usenet is self moderation so you can killfile the numpties, something you can't do on web forums. -- Andrew, contact via http://interpleb.googlepages.com Help make Usenet a better place: English is read downwards, please don't top post. Trim replies to quote only relevant text. Check groups.google.com before asking an obvious question.
On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:28:42 +0000, Andrew <spamt...@127.0.0.1> wrote: >For me the beauty of Usenet is self moderation so you can killfile the >numpties, something you can't do on web forums.
That as well.
I do try not to use the killfile. Just occasionally though, you really have no choice.
On the opposite side of the coin, I have zero time for serial *PLONK*ers that have their say and then killfile people. They're just as bad as the retards in online games that send tells from behind their "ignore" commands.
Usenet is for the thick skinned. Long may it stay that way. -- Rob
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