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Doug Mccomber  
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 More options Jul 18, 9:41 pm
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: "Doug Mccomber" <doug.mccomber@1:255/36.remove-hp2-this>
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 08:41:00 -0300
Subject: newsgroup regurgitation
Why is this echo filled with posts from comp.sys.apple2?  I don't know about
you, but if I want to read comp.sys.apple2 I'll read it from a usenet feed.
If FidoNet users have nothing to say in this echo then so be it.  We don't
need to it to be a copy of comp.sys.apple2 as that adds no value.  Just my
2 cents.

--- MultiMail/Darwin v0.49
--- SBBSecho 2.12-Linux
 * Origin: The Ville 902-442-2725 (1:255/36)
--- Synchronet 3.15a-Win32 NewsLink 1.85
 *  Derby City Online - Louisville, KY - telnet://derbycitybbs.com


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a2...@hotmail.com  
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 More options Jul 19, 12:38 am
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: a2...@hotmail.com
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 07:38:49 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Jul 19 2008 12:38 am
Subject: Re: newsgroup regurgitation
On Jul 18, 6:41 am, "Doug Mccomber" <doug.mccomber@1:255/36.remove-hp2-

this> wrote:
> Why is this echo filled with posts from comp.sys.apple2?  I don't know about
> you, but if I want to read comp.sys.apple2 I'll read it from a usenet feed.

Yeah, that's how I felt too. It was explained to me that Fido is
gating a few usenet groups (not just csa2) to increase traffic. In a
way, I understand it ... not every Fido SysOp has access to a free or
inexpensive usenet feed for their BBS so gating gets the content out
to more boards.

On the other hand, those who have access to Fido and whatever usenet
is being gated, reading the dupes gets old really fast.

And whatever happened for Fido pride? Back in the day, Fido (and a
number of other nets, RIME for example) were pretty militant about
keeping their networks independent, self-contained communities within
themselves. To me, it seems Fido is using newsgroups as lifesupport
for a few slow echos.


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dott.Piergiorgio  
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 More options Jul 19, 1:28 am
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: "dott.Piergiorgio" <dott.PiergiorgioNI...@KAIGUN.fastwebnet.it>
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:28:04 +0200
Local: Sat, Jul 19 2008 1:28 am
Subject: Re: newsgroup regurgitation
a2...@hotmail.com ha scritto:

> And whatever happened for Fido pride? Back in the day, Fido (and a
> number of other nets, RIME for example) were pretty militant about
> keeping their networks independent, self-contained communities within
> themselves. To me, it seems Fido is using newsgroups as lifesupport
> for a few slow echos.

Nine Nets for the Fidonetters,
Seven Nets for the RIMEnetters,
Three Nets for the Compusetters,
One Internet to rule them all.

(sorry, I couldn't resist....)

Best regards from Italy,
Dott. Piergiorgio.


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Steven Hirsch  
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 More options Jul 19, 8:25 am
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: Steven Hirsch <snhir...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:25:50 -0400
Local: Sat, Jul 19 2008 8:25 am
Subject: Re: newsgroup regurgitation

Boggle!  Fido-net still exists??  I just assumed it faded away along with the
rise of the the internet.

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Mark Lewis  
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 More options Jul 19, 4:46 pm
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: "Mark Lewis" <mark.lewis@1:3634/12.remove-n9r-this>
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 06:46:31 +0000
Local: Sat, Jul 19 2008 4:46 pm
Subject: newsgroup regurgitation
  To: Doug Mccomber
Hi Doug,
In a message to All you wrote:

 DM> Why is this echo filled with posts from comp.sys.apple2?  I don't
 DM> know about you, but if I want to read comp.sys.apple2 I'll read it
 DM> from a usenet feed.

because the sysop of the derby city bbs in KY decided to keep the fido APPLE
echo "alive" by gating the newsgroup...

 DM> If FidoNet users have nothing to say in this echo then so be it. We
 DM> don't need to it to be a copy of comp.sys.apple2 as that adds no
 DM> value. Just my 2 cents.

it isn't "fido" that is doing it... it is one sysop on one system that is doing
it...

and, i'll also note that there are still many folk who enjoy the apple machines
and won't go near a newsgroup because of the bad reputation that they got when
the spammers started harvesting addresses from newsgroups and spamming their
shite into the groups...

in any case, if it is a problem, take it up with the sysop of the derby city
bbs ;)

Bye bye!
  mark

 * SeM. 2.26  * Windows loaded.  System in danger.

* Origin:  (1:3634/12)
--- Synchronet 3.15a-Win32 NewsLink 1.85
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Bill Buckels  
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 More options Jul 20, 4:25 am
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: "Bill Buckels" <bbuck...@mts.net>
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 13:25:08 -0500
Local: Sun, Jul 20 2008 4:25 am
Subject: Re: newsgroup regurgitation
"Steven Hirsch" <snhir...@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:ppKdnZ_OvrTthRzVnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@giganews.com...

a2...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Boggle!  Fido-net still exists??  I just assumed it faded away along with
> the rise of the the internet.

AFAIK the international C echo is not on Fido anymore. I get my feed through
a list serve. BTW Bob Stout just released a version of snippets for embedded
systems. My stuff from the early days is still on PDNCEE though. Lots of the
old timers like Jerry Coffin are still around too.

For a memory jog click on one or all of the following:

http://www.clipshop.ca/sdn.gif

http://www.clipshop.ca/polar.gif

http://www.clipshop.ca/cobalts.gif

http://www.clipshop.ca/starve.gif

If we didn't have an academic account it was all we around here back then. I
can't understand why anyone would kfetch and bemoan receiving a csa2 feed
though. This is an extremely civilized bunch here and certainly as worthy as
anything fido ever had IMNSHO.

Bill

TNSTAAFL (There's no such think as a free lunch:)


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 More options Jul 21, 10:38 am
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: magnusfalkirk <dean.pha...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 17:38:24 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Jul 21 2008 10:38 am
Subject: Re: newsgroup regurgitation
On Jul 19, 1:25 pm, "Bill Buckels" <bbuck...@mts.net> wrote:

Bill,
your quote there should be TANSTAAFL (There Ain't No Such Thing As A
Free Lunch). Robert Heinlein use to use that in several of his science
fiction novels. In fact I think he coined that phrase, but I'm not
100% sure.

Dean


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Bill Buckels  
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 More options Jul 21, 3:37 pm
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: "Bill Buckels" <bbuck...@mts.net>
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 00:37:40 -0500
Local: Mon, Jul 21 2008 3:37 pm
Subject: Re: newsgroup regurgitation

"magnusfalkirk" <dean.pha...@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:ea16658c-37e9-4506-a585-c268d29209ee@j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...

> your quote there should be TANSTAAFL (There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free
> Lunch). Robert Heinlein use to use that in several of his science fiction
> novels. In fact I think he coined that phrase, but I'm not 100% sure.

"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher
a hog, con a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts,
build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders,
cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyse a new problem, pitch manure,
program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly.
Specialization is for insects"

Robert A. Heinlein

Dean,

I should add "quote Heinlein correctly":)

Bill


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Steven Hirsch  
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 More options Jul 21, 9:45 pm
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: Steven Hirsch <snhir...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 07:45:46 -0400
Local: Mon, Jul 21 2008 9:45 pm
Subject: Re: newsgroup regurgitation

Bill Buckels wrote:
> "A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher
> a hog, con a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts,
> build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders,
> cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyse a new problem, pitch manure,
> program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly.
> Specialization is for insects"

> Robert A. Heinlein

Wasn't 'deliver a baby' in there somewhere?

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Bill Buckels  
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 More options Jul 20, 4:25 am
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: "Bill Buckels" <bbuck...@mts.net>
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 13:25:08 -0500
Local: Sun, Jul 20 2008 4:25 am
Subject: Re: newsgroup regurgitation
"Steven Hirsch" <snhir...@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:ppKdnZ_OvrTthRzVnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@giganews.com...

a2...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Boggle!  Fido-net still exists??  I just assumed it faded away along with
> the rise of the the internet.

AFAIK the international C echo is not on Fido anymore. I get my feed through
a list serve. BTW Bob Stout just released a version of snippets for embedded
systems. My stuff from the early days is still on PDNCEE though. Lots of the
old timers like Jerry Coffin are still around too.

For a memory jog click on one or all of the following:

http://www.clipshop.ca/sdn.gif

http://www.clipshop.ca/polar.gif

http://www.clipshop.ca/cobalts.gif

http://www.clipshop.ca/starve.gif

If we didn't have an academic account it was all we around here back then. I
can't understand why anyone would kfetch and bemoan receiving a csa2 feed
though. This is an extremely civilized bunch here and certainly as worthy as
anything fido ever had IMNSHO.

Bill

TNSTAAFL (There's no such think as a free lunch:)


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 More options Jul 29, 9:21 pm
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: stocks.h...@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 04:21:03 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Jul 29 2008 9:21 pm
Subject: Re: newsgroup regurgitation
On Jul 20, 2:25 am, "Bill Buckels" <bbuck...@mts.net> wrote:

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