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a2...@hotmail.com  
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 More options Jul 18, 7:52 am
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From: a2...@hotmail.com
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:52:16 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Jul 18 2008 7:52 am
Subject: Sometimes, I feel bad for people...
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magnusfalkirk  
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 More options Jul 18, 8:40 am
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From: magnusfalkirk <dean.pha...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:40:19 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Jul 18 2008 8:40 am
Subject: Re: Sometimes, I feel bad for people...
On Jul 17, 4:52 pm, a2...@hotmail.com wrote:

> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=140249298263

> I guess they don't read CSA2 or A2Central.

I agree.

Dean


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Steven Hirsch  
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 More options Jul 18, 10:05 am
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From: Steven Hirsch <snhir...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 20:05:00 -0400
Subject: Re: Sometimes, I feel bad for people...

a2...@hotmail.com wrote:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=140249298263

> I guess they don't read CSA2 or A2Central.

Not sure I follow...  Is someone actually building 8M IIGS memory expansion
boards as an alternative?  Pardon the naivety, but I thought even the Garber
board was out of production.

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schmidtd  
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 More options Jul 18, 10:09 am
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From: schmidtd <schmi...@my-deja.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 17:09:10 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Jul 18 2008 10:09 am
Subject: Re: Sometimes, I feel bad for people...
On Jul 17, 8:05 pm, Steven Hirsch <snhir...@gmail.com> wrote:
> a2...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=140249298263

> > I guess they don't read CSA2 or A2Central.

> Not sure I follow...  Is someone actually building 8M IIGS memory expansion
> boards as an alternative?  Pardon the naivety, but I thought even the Garber
> board was out of production.

The 16 sector site has them for sale for $179 fully loaded:
http://16sector.com/shop/a2ram/sirius-ram-iigs-w8mb/

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pitz  
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 More options Jul 18, 10:23 am
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From: pitz <pitz.w...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 17:23:19 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Jul 18 2008 10:23 am
Subject: Re: Sometimes, I feel bad for people...
Shhhh.  I was planning to buy a bunch of the cards and put them up on
eBay.  Just kidding.

Seriously, is Tony considering selling them on eBay like Vince started
doing with his 4MB cards?  It definitely has a wider audience exposure
than a2central or the newsgroups.  Hats off to Tony for using a price
that's really much below the going price in the auction market.

On Jul 17, 5:09 pm, schmidtd <schmi...@my-deja.com> wrote:


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Bill Garber  
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 More options Jul 18, 10:55 am
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From: "Bill Garber" <willy4...@comcast.net>
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 20:55:33 -0400
Local: Fri, Jul 18 2008 10:55 am
Subject: Re: Sometimes, I feel bad for people...

"Steven Hirsch" <snhir...@gmail.com> wrote in message news:mdGdnRcwK6mxQ-LVnZ2dnUVZ_gadnZ2d@giganews.com...
> a2...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=140249298263

> > I guess they don't read CSA2 or A2Central.

> Not sure I follow...  Is someone actually building 8M IIGS memory expansion
> boards as an alternative?  Pardon the naivety, but I thought even the Garber
> board was out of production.

The GarberStreet board is being produced by Briel, whose
web site seems to be having problems, or I'd give you the link.

Bill Garber from GS-Electronics
http://www.garberstreet.com


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sfahey  
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 More options Jul 18, 11:33 am
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From: "sfahey" <sfa...@a2central.com.remove-gn-this>
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 20:33:52 -0500
Local: Fri, Jul 18 2008 11:33 am
Subject: Re: Sometimes, I feel bad for people...
  To: pitz
On 7/17/08 7:23 PM, in article
07740cec-aadd-40c3-b5f3-8e9900802...@y38g2000hsy.googlegroups.com, "pitz"

<pitz.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Seriously, is Tony considering selling them on eBay like Vince started
> doing with his 4MB cards?  It definitely has a wider audience exposure
> than a2central or the newsgroups.  Hats off to Tony for using a price
> that's really much below the going price in the auction market.

I have suggested that to him.

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sfahey  
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 More options Jul 18, 11:28 am
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From: "sfahey" <sfa...@a2central.com.remove-gn-this>
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 20:28:25 -0500
Local: Fri, Jul 18 2008 11:28 am
Subject: Re: Sometimes, I feel bad for people...
  To: Steven Hirsch
On 7/17/08 7:05 PM, in article
mdGdnRcwK6mxQ-LVnZ2dnUVZ_gadn...@giganews.com, "Steven Hirsch"

<snhir...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Not sure I follow...  Is someone actually building 8M IIGS memory expansion
> boards as an alternative?  Pardon the naivety, but I thought even the Garber
> board was out of production.

16sector.com, run by Tony Diaz (formerly with CCC/Altech) is selling /NEW/
8MB Sirius cards for $179 ... available now, today, shipping extra. We've
chatted it up here and posted all kinds of info over at A2Central.com.

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vbr...@oh.rr.com  
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 More options Jul 18, 12:19 pm
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From: vbr...@oh.rr.com
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:19:19 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Jul 18 2008 12:19 pm
Subject: Re: Sometimes, I feel bad for people...
On Jul 17, 8:55 pm, "Bill Garber" <willy4...@comcast.net> wrote:

> "Steven Hirsch" <snhir...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:mdGdnRcwK6mxQ-LVnZ2dnUVZ_gadnZ2d@giganews.com...
> > a2...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=140249298263

> > > I guess they don't read CSA2 or A2Central.

> > Not sure I follow...  Is someone actually building 8M IIGS memory expansion
> > boards as an alternative?  Pardon the naivety, but I thought even the Garber
> > board was out of production.

> The GarberStreet board is being produced by Briel, whose
> web site seems to be having problems, or I'd give you the link.

> Bill Garber from GS-Electronicshttp://www.garberstreet.com

My site is having problems? Here's a link.

http://www.brielcomputers.com/wik/index.php?title=Main_Page

The 8meg boards are just awesome, and I like the price because it
gives people a good choice of cards. I Ebay every now and then just to
do a little marketing and I try to knock a couple bucks off the price.
I don't want too much business, my hobby would be like work. Although
with the new feedback system I may stop using ebay.

Vince
replica 1 the apple 1 clone
http://www.brielcomputers.com


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Bill Garber  
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 More options Jul 18, 1:08 pm
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From: "Bill Garber" <willy4...@comcast.net>
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 23:08:00 -0400
Subject: Re: Sometimes, I feel bad for people...

<vbr...@oh.rr.com> wrote in message

news:4faf1e4c-62d6-4dcc-b3f7-54d5808af949@59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...

> My site is having problems? Here's a link.

> http://www.brielcomputers.com/wik/index.php?title=Main_Page

> The 8meg boards are just awesome, and I like the price because it
> gives people a good choice of cards. I Ebay every now and then just to
> do a little marketing and I try to knock a couple bucks off the price.
> I don't want too much business, my hobby would be like work. Although
> with the new feedback system I may stop using ebay.

Now it works. Maybe it was me.  <[8>D

Bill Garber from GS-Electronics
http://www.garberstreet.com


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Michael J. Mahon  
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 More options Jul 18, 7:24 pm
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From: "Michael J. Mahon" <mjma...@aol.com>
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 02:24:45 -0700
Local: Fri, Jul 18 2008 7:24 pm
Subject: Re: Sometimes, I feel bad for people...

vbr...@oh.rr.com wrote:
>      I Ebay every now and then just to
> do a little marketing and I try to knock a couple bucks off the price.
> I don't want too much business, my hobby would be like work. Although
> with the new feedback system I may stop using ebay.

Vince, do you really have that much trouble with buyers?  Or is it
just a matter of principle?

The reason I ask is that the old system made it very unlikely that
a dishonest seller would get bad feedback, because of the likely
retaliation.  That undermined the whole principle of feedback
reflecting actual experience, making it much less useful in
engendering trust.

eBay's new seller rating system provides even more helpful information
to a prospective buyer.

Many sellers will always be willing to take some risk to make money,
while buyers need never take the risk of buying from an unknown
seller (and many do not because of adverse stories)--which would
damage the market.

This is analogous to the "brick and mortar" market, where businesses
are rated and have reputations to protect, while their customers just
walk in off the street.  A credit card is the only "reference" they
might need.

-michael

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Home page:  http://members.aol.com/MJMahon/

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tool--and it's seriously underused."


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vbr...@oh.rr.com  
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 More options Jul 18, 9:42 pm
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From: vbr...@oh.rr.com
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 04:42:50 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Jul 18 2008 9:42 pm
Subject: Re: Sometimes, I feel bad for people...
On Jul 18, 5:24 am, "Michael J. Mahon" <mjma...@aol.com> wrote:

I've never had a bad buyer, one seller took months to get my item to
me but I have 100% feedback. I still use ebay, so I'm not totally
against it. I just think that if a buyer decides he isn't going to buy
it after he wins, there is no negative feedback option. There is no
way to warn other sellers of a potential bad buyer. That's the key,
the feedback was suppose to be a tool that worked both ways. I do
agree that revenge feedback is wrong and should never have been
allowed. They should have had appeals for negative feedback though. It
just seems lopsided. While ebay can be considered a seller/buyer
marketplace, it is also a place where a transaction is held. If one
party of the transaction doesn't hold up his/her (political
correctness inserted) end of the deal, it is only fair that
appropriate feedback be left. It should never have been a 3 choice
selection but rather a scale of 1-10 like they have now for sellers. I
like that idea better.

Ebay doesn't have to worry about attracting "new" customers worried
about feedback. The worlds largest online auction is doing just fine
business wise.

For the record, when I do sell a board on ebay, everybody pays right
away which is a credit to the community. Since the new ebay feedback
system isn't that old, I'd like to see how it goes but I have to
admit, I get a little anxious every time I list an item now.

Vince
replica 1 TE now available
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