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Dennis McClain-Furmanski  
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 More options Jul 29 1991, 11:35 pm
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: Dennis.McClain-Furman...@resq.fidonet.org (Dennis McClain-Furmanski)
Date: 8 Jul 91 09:49:51 GMT
Local: Mon, Jul 8 1991 7:49 pm
Subject: BenchMac - the sequel

      To:  All                        Message #:  3206
    From:  Larry Schneider            Submitted:  08 Mar 91
Subject:  speed compairsons             Status:  Public
Received:  No                             Group:  APPLE (14)

In a recent message to all, Robert Hardman wrote:

"In a variety of word processors, they replaced 1300
occurrences of "Mac"with "Macintosh".  Their
-- presumably averaged -- speed results ranged from
a low of 219 seconds on the Mac Classic (8 Mhz 68000)
to seconds on the Mac IIfx (40 Mhz 68030)."

And a little further along in his message he writes:

"As I see it, there are three possible explanations:
1) They didn't report their test and/or results correctly.
If this was the case, the benchmark was
irreproducible even for a Mac owner.
2) the over-engineered software of the Mac
slows things down a hell of a lot.
I think this is very likely, considering the
differences between AW and FW.
3) The 68--- series is hideously overrated.
I think this is also likely.  Ask Bill Mensch!"

I decided to do a little testing of my own.  As you should
expect, I used Apple Writer.  I did three tests:  The symbol
"^M" indicates a carriage return

A)  MacMacMacMacMac......(1300 of the worthless buggers
                          with NO carriage return)

B)  Mac Mac Mac Mac .....(1300 of the worthless buggers
                          with 10 to a line)
C)  Mac^M
    Mac^M
    Mac^M                (1300 of the worthless buggers)
    .
    .
    .

D)  Mac      ^M
    Mac      ^M
    Mac      ^M          (1300 of the worthless buggers)
    .
    .
    .

The results were of ten 'tests' averaged.  All times are in
seconds. For the larger numbers, I did not bother to include
decimals as I felt them to be meaningless.  For the smaller
numbers - my watch goes to 1/100 ths of a second; however,
I'm a fat old man whose reflexes are not that great; I'll
just give the results as I've indicated.

TEST                A         B         C         D

IIgs               129       7.3       4.4       5.3
8 meg ZIP IIe       46       2.6       1.9       2.1

First thing to note is: much depends on how the word "Mac"
is placed in the text file.  I'll not bother with showing a
display of what the replacement of Mac by Macintosh  in test
"A" looked like, but will tell you that Apple Writer needed
to do a lot of formating in test "A".  From this experience,
I would like to know how "Mac" was formated in the original
tests done by MacWorld! Next, I'll agree with #2 of Robert's
conclusions.  Just imagine what a Mac IIfx could be without
that worthless GUI!!!!!!  Just imagine what the IIgs would
be without emulating that same worthless GUI.  I'll disagree
with #3 however; 68xxx does graphics very nicely.  I would
bet that Apple Writer could be ported over to a 68xxx very
easily.  I believe my own testing puts #1 into further
question; i.e. MacWorld or Robert need to be more careful
as to how results are reported.

--  
Dennis McClain-Furman...@resq.fidonet.org
(Please insert a '.' in the name; we've run run out...)


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rudiak  
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 More options Jul 30 1991, 8:15 pm
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: rud...@garnet.berkeley.edu
Date: 30 Jul 91 06:26:12 GMT
Local: Tues, Jul 30 1991 4:26 pm
Subject: Re: BenchMac - the sequel
In article <231.2893F...@resq.fidonet.org> Dennis.McClain-Furman...@resq.fidonet.org (Dennis McClain-Furmanski) writes:

>First thing to note is: much depends on how the word "Mac"
>is placed in the text file.  . . .    From this experience,
>I would like to know how "Mac" was formated in the original
>tests done by MacWorld!

I sure hope MacWorld explained this.  Otherwise they might
just as well not have explained what their benchmarks were
at all.  If anybody read the article, did they mention this?

>                        Next, I'll agree with #2 of Robert's
>conclusions.  Just imagine what a Mac IIfx could be without
>that worthless GUI!!!!!!

Seems to me that the GUI shouldn't have much to do with it.
All the searching and replacement is going on in memory, not
on the screen.  Also, I don't think the Mac GUI is worthless;
It's easy to use, and it's a hell of a lot better than
Microsoft Windows.

>                          Just imagine what the IIgs would
>be without emulating that same worthless GUI.

You don't have to use it if you don't like it (unlike Macintosh).
There are plenty of text-based programs and program launchers
available.  You're welcome to use them if you want.

>--  
>Dennis McClain-Furman...@resq.fidonet.org

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Ben Rudiak-Gould            \  it's Hi, how are you?"   /  Opinions are mine...
rud...@garnet.berkeley.edu   \     -- Mike Sugarbaker  /  Mine... ALL MINE!!!!
                              \_______________________/  HA HA HAAA HAAAAAA!!

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