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  <title type="text">comp.lang.python Google Group</title>
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  The Python computer language.
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  <updated>2009-11-21T02:05:45Z</updated>
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  <author>
  <name>Aaron Watters</name>
  <email>aaron.watt...@gmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-21T02:05:45Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.au/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/ceef2ae6b4472b61/4f3272904d8872b9?show_docid=4f3272904d8872b9</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.au/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/ceef2ae6b4472b61/4f3272904d8872b9?show_docid=4f3272904d8872b9"/>
  <title type="text">Re: python simply not scaleable enough for google?</title>
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  Yes. Everyone knows java is faster than Python right? &lt;br&gt; But look here: &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://gaejava.appspot.com/&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; (you might want to run it a couple times to see what &lt;br&gt; it does when it is &#39;warm&#39;). I don&#39;t think this is &lt;br&gt; a biased test -- I think the author expected to see &lt;br&gt; Java faster. &lt;br&gt; In my runs Python is usually a bit faster on a majority
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Daniel Dalton</name>
  <email>d.dal...@iinet.net.au</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-21T01:47:01Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.au/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/5750eb03a68f10ac/9374fa1b6773dfb7?show_docid=9374fa1b6773dfb7</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.au/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/5750eb03a68f10ac/9374fa1b6773dfb7?show_docid=9374fa1b6773dfb7"/>
  <title type="text">Re: python and web pages</title>
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  Well, what seemed a very daunting task at first, proved to be quite &lt;br&gt; easy, after a little bit of research. Thanks very much, I&#39;ve written my &lt;br&gt; script, and it works correctly, using the mechanize module. &lt;br&gt; Thanks for everyone&#39;s help
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  <author>
  <name>Mensanator</name>
  <email>mensana...@aol.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-21T01:40:19Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.au/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/d16ebb57e34d3c40/1efa0e344bd339cd?show_docid=1efa0e344bd339cd</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.au/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/d16ebb57e34d3c40/1efa0e344bd339cd?show_docid=1efa0e344bd339cd"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Go versus Brand X</title>
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  No, it predates my entry into the computer biz.
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  <author>
  <name>Gregory Ewing</name>
  <email>greg.ew...@canterbury.ac.nz</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-21T01:16:52Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.au/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/f0da0a46bee49fa2/f80ff042d695fd77?show_docid=f80ff042d695fd77</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.au/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/f0da0a46bee49fa2/f80ff042d695fd77?show_docid=f80ff042d695fd77"/>
  <title type="text">Re: What is the naming convention for accessor of a &#39;private&#39; variable?</title>
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  To elaborate, accessor methods that *only* read and write &lt;br&gt; another, ordinary attribute are completely unnecessary &lt;br&gt; in Python. In that case there is no harm in exposing the &lt;br&gt; underlying attribute directly, because you can always &lt;br&gt; replace it with a property later if you change your mind, &lt;br&gt; without requiring any change in calling code.
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  <author>
  <name>Aahz</name>
  <email>a...@pythoncraft.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-21T01:12:36Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.au/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/d16ebb57e34d3c40/c8a43cb839bbab19?show_docid=c8a43cb839bbab19</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.au/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/d16ebb57e34d3c40/c8a43cb839bbab19?show_docid=c8a43cb839bbab19"/>
  <title type="text">Go versus Brand X</title>
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  Comparing Go to another computer language -- do you recognize it? &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://www.cowlark.com/2009-11-15-go/&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt;
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Gregory Ewing</name>
  <email>greg.ew...@canterbury.ac.nz</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-21T00:57:39Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.au/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/21106d3bb69c5a49/d993ce253b12d197?show_docid=d993ce253b12d197</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.au/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/21106d3bb69c5a49/d993ce253b12d197?show_docid=d993ce253b12d197"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Relative versus absolute paths on Windows</title>
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  It&#39;s not clear what the result ought to be here, since &lt;br&gt; Windows drive-relative paths don&#39;t really fit into the &lt;br&gt; unix absolute/relative dichotomy. Arguments could be &lt;br&gt; made either way, and what&#39;s right probably depends on &lt;br&gt; the reason you&#39;re asking. &lt;br&gt; For cross-platform code, it&#39;s probably safest to avoid &lt;br&gt; drive-relative paths altogether -- convert them to
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  <author>
  <name>Esmail</name>
  <email>ebo...@hotmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-20T23:58:10Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.au/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/84b5ec30cdd26cde/b49b056bff8fff31?show_docid=b49b056bff8fff31</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.au/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/84b5ec30cdd26cde/b49b056bff8fff31?show_docid=b49b056bff8fff31"/>
  <title type="text">Re: semantics of [:]</title>
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  Got it :-) .. thanks for helping out Diez &lt;br&gt; Esmail
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  <author>
  <name>Diez B. Roggisch</name>
  <email>de...@nospam.web.de</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-20T23:42:00Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com.au/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/84b5ec30cdd26cde/37b43e0af56a5627?show_docid=37b43e0af56a5627"/>
  <title type="text">Re: semantics of [:]</title>
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  Esmail schrieb: &lt;br&gt; None of your operations changes a. But I talked about the lists you &lt;br&gt; bound b and c to before. Those aren&#39;t changed as well - they simply are &lt;br&gt; not pointed to anymore. In your example, that means the will be &lt;br&gt; garbage-collected, in other scenarios, such as this, the stay: &lt;br&gt; a = [] &lt;br&gt; foo = []
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Ethan Furman</name>
  <email>et...@stoneleaf.us</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-20T19:22:58Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com.au/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/84b5ec30cdd26cde/59cb9c65f45c0f9c?show_docid=59cb9c65f45c0f9c"/>
  <title type="text">Re: semantics of [:]</title>
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  Be aware: this is only a shallow copy -- if your copied list contains &lt;br&gt; mutable objects that you mutate, those changes *will* show up in the &lt;br&gt; original list. &lt;br&gt; Shallow copies are useful when, for example, you won&#39;t be mutating &lt;br&gt; objects in the copied list but are adding, removing, or reordering the &lt;br&gt; copied list.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Joshua Bronson</name>
  <email>jabron...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-20T21:59:24Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.au/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/785d100681f7d101/c92b8ca4ae59da11?show_docid=c92b8ca4ae59da11</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.au/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/785d100681f7d101/c92b8ca4ae59da11?show_docid=c92b8ca4ae59da11"/>
  <title type="text">Re: python bijection</title>
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  absolutely genius. implemented in the latest version: &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://bitbucket.org/jab/toys/src/tip/bijection.py&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; thank you for the terrific idea!
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Joshua Bronson</name>
  <email>jabron...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-20T21:59:24Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.au/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/785d100681f7d101/6c2bfd3db7efc459?show_docid=6c2bfd3db7efc459</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.au/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/785d100681f7d101/6c2bfd3db7efc459?show_docid=6c2bfd3db7efc459"/>
  <title type="text">Re: python bijection</title>
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  absolutely genius. implemented in the latest version: &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://bitbucket.org/jab/toys/src/tip/bijection.py&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; thank you for the terrific idea!
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  <author>
  <name>Aahz</name>
  <email>a...@pythoncraft.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-20T21:45:04Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.au/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/ceef2ae6b4472b61/d9e09651e9d073ee?show_docid=d9e09651e9d073ee</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.au/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/ceef2ae6b4472b61/d9e09651e9d073ee?show_docid=d9e09651e9d073ee"/>
  <title type="text">Re: python simply not scaleable enough for google?</title>
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  In article &amp;lt;de86d30e-c9c1-4d30-9e62-d043b 78ea...@a31g2000yqn.googlegrou ps.com&amp;gt;, &lt;br&gt; Are you advocating a high-fiber diet?
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Esmail</name>
  <email>ebo...@hotmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-20T21:30:26Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.au/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/84b5ec30cdd26cde/45c54f8c49c9b984?show_docid=45c54f8c49c9b984</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.au/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/84b5ec30cdd26cde/45c54f8c49c9b984?show_docid=45c54f8c49c9b984"/>
  <title type="text">Re: semantics of [:]</title>
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  Thank you all for your posts - this was very enlightening &lt;br&gt; and I printed this thread off for future reference.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Ethan Furman</name>
  <email>et...@stoneleaf.us</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-20T21:03:43Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.au/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/3f0d7607ed5a4a78/8855b523ae46e50b?show_docid=8855b523ae46e50b</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.au/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/3f0d7607ed5a4a78/8855b523ae46e50b?show_docid=8855b523ae46e50b"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Is an interactive command a block?</title>
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  Very good point, I had forgotten. Of course, injecting into built-ins &lt;br&gt; is not recommended. &lt;br&gt; ~Ethan~
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Ethan Furman</name>
  <email>et...@stoneleaf.us</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-20T20:52:50Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.au/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/21106d3bb69c5a49/b7e4f96126e02cf7?show_docid=b7e4f96126e02cf7</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.au/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/21106d3bb69c5a49/b7e4f96126e02cf7?show_docid=b7e4f96126e02cf7"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Relative versus absolute paths on Windows</title>
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  It is often said on this list that &#39;Python is not Java&#39;. It is also &lt;br&gt; true that &#39;Windows is not Unix&#39;. &lt;br&gt; Unlike the *nix world where there is a *single* root, and everything &lt;br&gt; else is relative to that, in the Windows world there are several roots &lt;br&gt; -- every drive has one! &lt;br&gt; So \bar is both an absolute path on whichever drive is active (or
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