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 More options Nov 1 2007, 9:26 pm
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From: dbm...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 10:26:30 -0000
Local: Thurs, Nov 1 2007 9:26 pm
Subject: Problem with installing Oracle
First of all, hello to the group !

I have a problem installing Oracle 10g release 2 on RHEL 4 update 4. :
(

RHEL is fresh installation with next packages:

a.. Server Configuration Tools (4 of 11)
a.. Development Tools (57 of 75)
a.. X Software Development (16 of 18)
a.. Compatibility Arch Development Support (8 of 8)
a.. Legacy Software Development (6 of 6)
a.. Administration Tools (11 of 12)
a.. System Tools (12 of 50)
a.. libaio-0.3.105-2.x86_64.rpm

Next, I've created oracle user that will run the installation and
edited his
profile. Also I have created two groups, oinstall and dba and edited
kernel
parameters.

groupadd dba
groupadd oinstall
useradd -m oracle -g oinstall -G dba
mkdir /oracle
mkdir /oracle/10g
chown -R oracle:oinstall /oracle
mkdir /osource

cat >> /home/oracle/.bash_profile << EOF
#Added for Oracle Installation
ORACLE_BASE=/oracle
ORACLE_HOME=/oracle/10g/db_1
ORACLE_SID=INFAT
export ORACLE_BASE ORACLE_HOME ORACLE_SID
PATH=/oracle/10g/bin:$PATH:.
export PATH
EOF

cat >> /etc/sysctl.conf << EOF
#Added for Oracle Installation
kernel.shmall = 2097152
kernel.shmmax = 2147483648
kernel.shmmni = 4096
kernel.sem = 250 32000 100 128
fs.file-max = 65536
net.ipv4.ip_local_port_range = 1024 65000
net.core.rmem_default = 262144
net.core.wmem_default = 262144
net.core.rmem_max = 262144
net.core.wmem_max = 262144
EOF

Installation itsefl is successfull but when it comes to the linking
part, it
just breaks with errors on next sceenshoots:

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http://aycu16.webshots.com/image/30975/2000609142436376501_fs.jpg

http://aycu26.webshots.com/image/33945/2000621709332438227_fs.jpg

http://aycu07.webshots.com/image/31606/2006214369960489243_fs.jpg

http://aycu03.webshots.com/image/33762/2006205106893786925_fs.jpg

http://aycu33.webshots.com/image/34192/2006225690369446577_fs.jpg

Please help !! :((((


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 More options Nov 1 2007, 9:33 pm
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From: dbm...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 10:33:51 -0000
Local: Thurs, Nov 1 2007 9:33 pm
Subject: Re: Problem with installing Oracle
On 1 stu, 11:26, dbm...@gmail.com wrote:

I fogot to say that RedHat is 64bit and so is Oracle.

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 More options Nov 1 2007, 10:10 pm
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From: hjr.pyth...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 04:10:17 -0700
Local: Thurs, Nov 1 2007 10:10 pm
Subject: Re: Problem with installing Oracle
On Nov 1, 9:33 pm, dbm...@gmail.com wrote:

You also forgot to say you're using my guide at http://www.dizwell.com/prod/node/728
!!

Shame you didn't feel able to ask questions about the script on the
site where you got it. We don't spam, you know: you can part with a
valid email address and get precisely four emails from us in 3 months!

Although you've cut-and-pasted most of my rootprep.sh script, you
don't seem to have done the sysctl -p bit which the original does.
Presumably, that was just a bit of concision on your part?

I'd first suspect that your installation wasn't quite the same as
mine: did your installation size get reported as 4,055MB or not? If
not, we have a problem. And I suspect I know what it is, because
you'll get these sorts of error if you're not using the operating
system I documented to use! That article discussed using Centos 4.4 or
OEL 4.4 -that is, Update 4 of the fourth version of those OSes. If
you're using update 1, 2 or 3, you can run into this problem, the fix
for which is to do an rpm -Uvh glibc-devel-2.3.4-2.9.i386.rpm (yup,
that's the 32-bit version of the libraries, even on a 64-bit OS). But
I'd recommend downloading afresh the correct release of the OS, if
indeed that is the issue.

Apart from that, and since I know the installation works just fine
otherwise I'd have documented workarounds for these sorts of issue,
I'd suspect your installation software next: again, a fresh download
might be in order. What number of blocks did you get reported when you
unpacked the cpio? The original article tells you what answer you
*should* have got.

Other than the above, I haven't a clue: if you use the same OS as me
and select the same package groups as me and install the same libaio
as me, the rules of deterministic software demand that we end up
achieving the same outcome! I can only re-iterate that I document what
happens to me, exactly and without missing out minor details like the
whole thing blowing up!


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 More options Nov 2 2007, 12:17 am
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From: dbm...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 13:17:20 -0000
Local: Fri, Nov 2 2007 12:17 am
Subject: Re: Problem with installing Oracle
On 1 stu, 12:10, hjr.pyth...@gmail.com wrote:

Oh I'm so sorry.. :(  First of all, I wanna thank you for that guide
of yours ! ;)) Sorry I was being so rude.

I have to say that your blog is amazing. You really helped me with
that guide and with many others. ;) I've installed couple of times
Oracle using this guide and your scripts on RHEL 4 and never had any
problems. But never on RedHat 4 update 4 though. :(

So, I was installing Oracle using your guide this time also.
Everything looks fine, I got exact nuber of blocks when unpacked cpio
(those who wanna know what is that number read the blog of the
men :)), but the linking part fails. :( I would use some other OS but,
i'm sorry to say that, it has to be on this one. :(

Maybe some other packages need to be installed, i dont know. I found
many artices regarding this problem but none of them helps. :(

Please, if someone has the solution to this help me, because i'm
getting an frustrating ulcer. :)


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 More options Nov 2 2007, 5:49 am
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From: Frank van Bortel <frank.van.bor...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 19:49:12 +0100
Local: Fri, Nov 2 2007 5:49 am
Subject: Re: Problem with installing Oracle
dbm...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've installed couple of times

> Oracle using this guide and your scripts on RHEL 4 and never had any
> problems. But never on RedHat 4 update 4 though. :(

Downgrade! Make sure you have the exact correct versions
of the libraries and packages!

--
Regards,
Frank van Bortel

Top-posting is one way to shut me up...


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 More options Nov 2 2007, 8:59 am
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From: hjr.pyth...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 14:59:34 -0700
Local: Fri, Nov 2 2007 8:59 am
Subject: Re: Problem with installing Oracle
On Nov 2, 12:17 am, dbm...@gmail.com wrote:

What bits about my earlier post did you not understand?

You're using Update 1, 2 or 3, not 4.4 of the OS. Therefore, you will
have to add in the deprecated libraries the exact name of which I
mentioned before.

I thought it was pretty clear myself: no need to appeal for "someone
having the solution". You already have it.


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 More options Nov 2 2007, 9:00 am
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From: hjr.pyth...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 15:00:54 -0700
Local: Fri, Nov 2 2007 9:00 am
Subject: Re: Problem with installing Oracle
On Nov 2, 5:49 am, Frank van Bortel <frank.van.bor...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> dbm...@gmail.com wrote:

>  I've installed couple of times

> > Oracle using this guide and your scripts on RHEL 4 and never had any
> > problems. But never on RedHat 4 update 4 though. :(

> Downgrade! Make sure you have the exact correct versions
> of the libraries and packages!

> --
> Regards,
> Frank van Bortel

> Top-posting is one way to shut me up...

No, don't downgrade! Install the one extra package I mentioned in my
first reply. That's all that's required, I think.

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 More options Nov 2 2007, 9:40 am
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From: "The Boss" <use...@No.Spam.Please.invalid>
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 23:40:12 +0100
Local: Fri, Nov 2 2007 9:40 am
Subject: Re: Problem with installing Oracle

Yep, think so too.
I had the same issue (as shown in the first 'webshot') only last week
installing 10gR2 (64-bits) on Linux for zSeries (SLES9-based).
Cause: missing glibc-devel-32bit package.
What's frustrating is the fact that:
- this prereq isn't mentioned anywhere in Oracle's official install docs
- same is true for 10gR1 although it is needed there as well
- during the actual install, it doesn't pop up right away at the
prerequirements check phase but much later at the link phase
- although all of this is known for quite some time (there is a
Metalink-note for it, haven't the number at hand right now) Oracle seems not
to be capable of updating their install docs accordingly.

--
Jeroen


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 More options Nov 2 2007, 9:05 pm
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From: dbm...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 10:05:57 -0000
Local: Fri, Nov 2 2007 9:05 pm
Subject: Re: Problem with installing Oracle
On 1 stu, 23:00, hjr.pyth...@gmail.com wrote:

Well, the linking part was successful !! :) That package really solved
it. But now I have another problem and that is when database is
createing. :(((( Installation just freezes on that part. I've checked
the log and saw that it freezes on starting isql :(

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 More options Nov 2 2007, 9:07 pm
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From: dbm...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 10:07:34 -0000
Local: Fri, Nov 2 2007 9:07 pm
Subject: Re: Problem with installing Oracle
On 2 stu, 11:05, dbm...@gmail.com wrote:

By the way, thanks one again Howard ! ;)

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From: DA Morgan <damor...@psoug.org>
Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 05:37:46 -0700
Local: Fri, Nov 2 2007 11:37 pm
Subject: Re: Problem with installing Oracle

dbm...@gmail.com wrote:
> createing. :(((( Installation just freezes on that part. I've checked
> the log and saw that it freezes on starting isql :(

iSQL*Plus as been dropped from 11gR1 so now you have two good reasons to
use something else.
--
Daniel A. Morgan
University of Washington
damor...@x.washington.edu (replace x with u to respond)
Puget Sound Oracle Users Group
www.psoug.org

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 More options Nov 8 2007, 8:38 pm
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From: Lodewicus Maas <linux.oracle....@googlemail.com>
Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 11:38:00 +0200
Subject: Re: Problem with installing Oracle

You will also get these relink errors if your ORACLE_BASE is exported
incorrectly. What I normally do is to ignore all this errorrs, and then
afterwards do a "relink all" from the ORACLE_HOME/bin directly. I did
many installs ifnoring them and then relinking manually afterwards
without an error

Lodewicus


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 More options Nov 9 2007, 12:30 am
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From: hjr.pyth...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 05:30:16 -0800
Local: Fri, Nov 9 2007 12:30 am
Subject: Re: Problem with installing Oracle
On Nov 8, 8:38 pm, Lodewicus Maas <linux.oracle....@googlemail.com>
wrote:

I find that bafflingly and infuriating silly advice.

The guy is installing Red Hat 4. That's a completely standard OS,
fully supported by Oracle, with guaranteed success for the
installation. Nothing WILL go wrong *if* everything is done right.
There is therefore no need EVER to "relink all" to make an
installation of that database onto that OS work.

If you stuff things up so badly that you get a string of linking
errors, you don't just ignore them: you call that a completely stuffed
installation, wipe it and start again once you've corrected the
underlying problem! In this case, the problem is one missing package.
It needs to be installed and then the Oracle installation can be re-
performed from scratch.

If I ever had a junior come to me saying, 'Well, I got lots of errors,
but I then relinked all and it that completed successfully', I would
tell them to consider the install a miserable failure and to repeat
it, properly, until such time as they achieve one that, from start to
finish, doesn't produce any errors. And having made a silly and
relatively trivial networking error on a Windows server a couple of
days ago, I can attest that I beat myself up to the same standard,
too: that particular server had its entire OS re-installed as well as
a total re-installation of Oracle before I would declare that a
success.

How in God's name you could ever manage to "export your ORACLE_BASE
incorrectly" I don't have the faintest idea! The necessary
configuration line (export ORACLE_BASE=/somewhere/or/other) is not
exactly complicated. If you get that "wrong" it can only mean you
can't type... or that you're too much in a hurry to check what it is
that you're typing! Neither are good recommendations for best DBA
practice.

Besides, the original poster is running a script of mine which he's
lifted from my website and which I've used about a bazillion times to
install correctly without fuss. So no, it's definitely not a badly
exported ORACLE_BASE!

But that's really not the point here. The point is, DBAs don't patch
things up. They get them right first. They pay due heed to detail and
the need for accuracy, so misconfigurations of environment variables
doesn't happen. At least, the good ones do. The others rely on
workarounds such as the one you've just announced!


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