>> I can speak for myself - I can't afford both the hardware and the
>> electricity bill for a separate machine. Maybe downstream limiting
>> isn't
>> very robust, but IMO is the biggest thing pf/altq lacks.

> What I tried to express in the last paragraph of the referenced mail
> was that it's not pf that's lacking anything, but altq. There simply
> are no input queues with altq. If you added those queues to altq, you
> might not even have to change a single line in pf to get them used.