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From: Ken Kato <kka...@hotmail.com>
To: Austpacwx <austpacwx@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: [austpacwx] Winter is here
Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 14:41:34 +1000
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Clyve=2C just thought you might be interested to know of one of those high =
thickness/snow scenarios for NE NSW tonight. I remember you mentioning this=
 in a previous post. Models have the 540 line barely reaching the central N=
SW tablelands before completely leaving the area by around midnight. This i=
s despite the categorical precip forecasts suggesting a bit of snow much fu=
rther north on the NE NSW tablelands right up to around 10am next morning (=
not to mention < 0C temps at 850hpa reaching up to near the Qld/NSW border =
also). Forecast soundings for that area appear to suggest the reason for th=
is - a shallow layer of cold moist air in the lowest 1000-2000ft then a rea=
lly massive inversion/warm air above it right up to around 18=2C000ft. Even=
 though there's pretty cold air down low=2C this layer looks extremely shal=
low and not enough to lower thicknesses below 540.

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I also heard an unconfirmed report of snow on the central NSW tablelands th=
is morning even though the 540 line barely reaches that area according to L=
APS analysis. The above reason might explain this one as well.

=20

Ken.

=20


From: mes...@iprimus.com.au
To: austpacwx@googlegroups.com
Subject: [austpacwx] Winter is here
Date: Fri=2C 3 Jul 2009 12:24:54 +1000




Hi all.
Real winter has arrived in the central ranges Vic....Bright sunshine 50kph =
souwester 6c and a wind chill of minus 5c....The mean maximum for Trentham =
is 7c in Jully and the mean Min is 2c...and now for 5 weeks of proper cold.=
...regards Clyve H


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Clyve=2C just thought you might be interested to know of&nbsp=3Bone of thos=
e&nbsp=3Bhigh thickness/snow scenarios&nbsp=3Bfor&nbsp=3BNE NSW&nbsp=3Btoni=
ght.&nbsp=3BI remember you&nbsp=3Bmentioning this in a previous post. Model=
s have the 540 line barely reaching&nbsp=3Bthe central NSW tablelands befor=
e completely leaving the area by around midnight. This is despite&nbsp=3Bth=
e categorical precip forecasts suggesting a bit of snow much further north&=
nbsp=3Bon the NE NSW tablelands right&nbsp=3Bup to around 10am next morning=
 (not to mention &lt=3B 0C temps at 850hpa reaching up to near the Qld/NSW =
border also). Forecast soundings&nbsp=3Bfor that area&nbsp=3Bappear to&nbsp=
=3Bsuggest the reason for this&nbsp=3B-&nbsp=3Ba shallow layer of cold mois=
t air in the lowest&nbsp=3B1000-2000ft then a really massive inversion/warm=
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p=3Bpretty cold air down low=2C this layer looks extremely shallow and not =
enough to lower thicknesses below 540.<BR>
&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B<BR>
I also heard an unconfirmed report of snow on the central NSW tablelands th=
is morning even though the 540 line barely reaches that area according to L=
APS analysis. The above reason might explain this one as well.<BR>
&nbsp=3B<BR>
Ken.<BR>
&nbsp=3B<BR>
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"MS Sans Serif">Hi all.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"MS Sans Serif">Real&nbsp=3Bwinter has arrived in the cen=
tral ranges Vic....Bright sunshine 50kph souwester 6c and a wind chill of m=
inus 5c....The mean maximum for Trentham is 7c in Jully and the mean Min is=
 2c...and now for 5 weeks of proper cold....regards Clyve H</FONT></DIV><BR=
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