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 More options May 6, 9:32 pm
From: Stormy <StormyClim...@msn.com>
Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 04:32:54 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, May 6 2008 9:32 pm
Subject: Re: Sorry to ruin the fun, but an ice age cometh
Hi Shane

Very interesting point of view indeed.

I have studied solar patterns, oceanic current patterns, and simple
temperature trends and have tried to tie all of these together in one
nice big ball of yarn here. Well, it has worked to some degree but one
thing I have looked more closely at recently is the Earth's orbital
changes over the hundreds of thousands of years. Yes according to data
we have been much closer to the Sun and also much further away from
the Sun. About 450,000 years ago or so there was a lot of CO2 around
but yet we were not around driving our cars. I guess one could
attribute a lot of that CO2 to volcanism on the Ring Of Fire and in
other places in the World but if the Earth was much closer than it is
in it's current obrit then that would allow more methane to escape
from far Northern Tundra as well far Southern Tundra areas. Yes a bi-
product of methane is good old fashioned CO2 and that has been proven
by Russian Scientists in Siberia and other places in the far north of
Russia.

Anyway I think you hit it right on if you are refering to the Earth's
orbital ecentricity for the cause of the cooling and warming patterns
of the planet. Coupled with the solar variation and oceanic currents
that give us La Nina and El Nino, it all makes for interesting weather
which eventually makes for an interesting climate record base.

Keep up the good thinking Shane

Greg Carstens
Spanaway, WA. U.S.A.
Atmospheric Sciences Major

On May 4, 1:11 pm, "Chas Osborn" <chasosb...@bigpond.com> wrote:

> Check the forum as well.

> Phil Chapman is a geophysicist and astronautical engineer who lives in San Francisco. He was the first Australian to become a NASA astronaut

> http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=7295&page=1


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