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Clyve Herbert  
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 More options May 5, 9:47 pm
From: "Clyve Herbert" <mes...@iprimus.com.au>
Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 21:47:20 +1000
Local: Mon, May 5 2008 9:47 pm
Subject: Re: [austpacwx] Re: Sorry to ruin the fun, but an ice age cometh
Hi all....There are a number of artists who painted 'ice' scenes from the
period of the Little Ice age, there are also a few books written but I
regard the book 'The Little Ice Age' by Brian Fagan as one of the best.
However if any list members want to read further back in climate history
there are some really excellent readings including 'Climate change in pre
history' by William j Burroughs this well set out book goes back tens of
thousands of years using ice core and sediment samples together with a host
of other related scientific facts about climate change, in one chapter a
description of how climate varied before 10.000 years ago will give you
double goose bumps...!.. Another rather heavy book (lots of pages) is After
the Ice by Steven Mithen has great text but a bias towards human
development.....Back to the freezing Thames river,   to put the events into
perspective the river did not freeze every year during the little ice age
there were actually intermediate warm spells however the frequency of
freezing was higher between 1670 and 1710. The last time the Thames almost
froze over from its source to the sea was during the winter of 1962/1963 a
winter I remember well.....best regards Clyve Herbert.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis Cottle" <denc...@optusnet.com.au>
To: <austpacwx@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 8:29 PM
Subject: [austpacwx] Re: Sorry to ruin the fun, but an ice age cometh

> Correct Tony
> The "Maunder Minimum " is well recorded with total freeze up of the Thames
> river ect. .I think there is a famous painting of people skating on the
> Thames by an artist I should remember but cant.
> Dennis Cottle
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tony Langdon" <vk3...@gmail.com>
> To: <austpacwx@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 6:33 AM
> Subject: [austpacwx] Re: Sorry to ruin the fun, but an ice age cometh

> > At 06:11 AM 5/5/2008, you wrote:
> >>Check the forum as well.

> >>Phil Chapman is a geophysicist and astronautical engineer who lives
> >>in San Francisco. He was the first Australian to become a NASA astronaut

>><http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=7295&page=1>http://www.o

nlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=7295&page=1

> > Certainly a correlation between sunspot numbers and climate change
> > has been documented, the "Maunder Minimum" and the Little Ice Age
> > being a well known case.  I'd suggest that this concern might be a
> > little premature, but it is something interesting to keep an eye on.

> > The last sunspots seen several weeks ago were lingering Cycle 23
> > spots, if I recall.  I do take an interest in sunspots, due to their
> > effect on the ionosphere and HF radio propagation.

> > 73 de VK3JED
> > http://vkradio.com


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