December 16 is 9 days before Christmas (as it was last year!) and people take that "once a year" trip into the city by Public Transport to do their Christmas Shopping.
One would think that this would be an opportunity to impress these passengers and maybe get some return business, but can Mr Connex please tell me how you are going to impress anybody when you run 3 carriage trains during one of the busy times of the year, and have people hanging out the window.
It was really nice Mr Connex when we went past Camberwell Station (and Ringwood...and Bayswater) and saw all those nice trains sitting empty in the sidings, at least I assume they were sitting there...it was quite hard to see anything apart from the armpit of that guy who seems to never wear deodorant (does he follow me around, or is there more than one of them??)
Mr Connex, you have got to do more basic things to get more passengers then paint your trains and give yourself a name change.
(Does anybody know what amount of cost savings they get from running 3 carriage sets, and the reasons they give for doing so?)
> One would think that this would be an opportunity to impress these > passengers and maybe get some return business, but can Mr Connex > please tell me how you are going to impress anybody when you run 3 > carriage trains during one of the busy times of the year, and have > people hanging out the window.
It's also a very good time of year to terminate all Burnley Group services at Flinders Street, instead of running around the loop (as is the case on Sunday 17 December).
> It was really nice Mr Connex when we went past Camberwell Station (and > Ringwood...and Bayswater) and saw all those nice trains sitting empty > in the sidings, at least I assume they were sitting there...it was > quite hard to see anything apart from the armpit of that guy who seems > to never wear deodorant (does he follow me around, or is there more > than one of them??)
...the smashed window on my Hitachi on Wednesday afternoon prevented any armpit smell whatsoever funking out the carriage...
> Mr Connex, you have got to do more basic things to get more passengers > then paint your trains and give yourself a name change.
Call 131638. Hearing someone say "uh...um, sorry OK" will fix EVERYTHING :)
> December 16 is 9 days before Christmas (as it was last year!) and > people take that "once a year" trip into the city by Public Transport > to do their Christmas Shopping.
> One would think that this would be an opportunity to impress these > passengers and maybe get some return business, but can Mr Connex > please tell me how you are going to impress anybody when you run 3 > carriage trains during one of the busy times of the year, and have > people hanging out the window.
> It was really nice Mr Connex when we went past Camberwell Station (and > Ringwood...and Bayswater) and saw all those nice trains sitting empty > in the sidings, at least I assume they were sitting there...it was > quite hard to see anything apart from the armpit of that guy who seems > to never wear deodorant (does he follow me around, or is there more > than one of them??)
> Mr Connex, you have got to do more basic things to get more passengers > then paint your trains and give yourself a name change.
> (Does anybody know what amount of cost savings they get from running 3 > carriage sets, and the reasons they give for doing so?)
PS. http://www.connexmelbourne.com.au/ Click FAQs/Contact Connex and have a rant. Let's see if they get back you within 24 hours like they say they will. I'm having a go at them now, and will do Bayside after that.
> December 16 is 9 days before Christmas (as it was last year!) and > people take that "once a year" trip into the city by Public Transport > to do their Christmas Shopping.
> One would think that this would be an opportunity to impress these > passengers and maybe get some return business, but can Mr Connex > please tell me how you are going to impress anybody when you run 3 > carriage trains during one of the busy times of the year, and have > people hanging out the window.
> It was really nice Mr Connex when we went past Camberwell Station (and > Ringwood...and Bayswater) and saw all those nice trains sitting empty > in the sidings, at least I assume they were sitting there...it was > quite hard to see anything apart from the armpit of that guy who seems > to never wear deodorant (does he follow me around, or is there more > than one of them??)
> Mr Connex, you have got to do more basic things to get more passengers > then paint your trains and give yourself a name change.
> (Does anybody know what amount of cost savings they get from running 3 > carriage sets, and the reasons they give for doing so?)
In article <KE%_5.21652$xW4.169...@news-server.bigpond.net.au>, "Daniel Bowen" <dbo...@custard.REMOVE.net.au> wrote:
> Same applied to Bayside Trains. How stupid are they?
> No wonder the shops in the city aren't as crowded as places like Chadstone > (I sampled both on Saturday).
That also have something to do with people these days prefer to shop at suburban shopping centers(Northland, Doncaster,highpoint, Southland etc) rather then city. Suburban shops mostly are cleaner, brighter and more spacious, and safer.
People also rush into places like Willamstown on the weekend but generally Bayside's Willamstown service are not very well patron. Maybe a through Connex-Bayside train to Willamstown may help?
Maybe a direct Williamstown train from the city would help. Currently you have to change at Newport. Perhaps they should extend back to Williamstown pier, or somewhere else near the action, so you don't have to walk a kilometre to the pier (I mean the passenger pier that's used on weekends).
> People also rush into places like Willamstown on the weekend but > generally Bayside's Willamstown service are not very well patron. Maybe > a through Connex-Bayside train to Willamstown may help?
> December 16 is 9 days before Christmas (as it was last year!) and > people take that "once a year" trip into the city by Public Transport > to do their Christmas Shopping.
> One would think that this would be an opportunity to impress these > passengers and maybe get some return business, but can Mr Connex > please tell me how you are going to impress anybody when you run 3 > carriage trains during one of the busy times of the year, and have > people hanging out the window.
> It was really nice Mr Connex when we went past Camberwell Station (and > Ringwood...and Bayswater) and saw all those nice trains sitting empty > in the sidings, at least I assume they were sitting there...it was > quite hard to see anything apart from the armpit of that guy who seems > to never wear deodorant (does he follow me around, or is there more > than one of them??)
> Mr Connex, you have got to do more basic things to get more passengers > then paint your trains and give yourself a name change.
> (Does anybody know what amount of cost savings they get from running 3 > carriage sets, and the reasons they give for doing so?)
Along those lines, how about suffering in a non air-conditioned train from Parliament to Boronia last week when it was about 35 degrees while every station we went past that could (i.e. Camberwell (??) and Bayswater) had plenty of air conditioned trains sitting there doing sweet FA.
alp...@optusnet.com.au (Alex Pout) wrote in <3a3d912d$0$19402$7f31c...@news01.syd.optusnet.com.au>:
>Along those lines, how about suffering in a non air-conditioned train from >Parliament to Boronia last week when it was about 35 degrees while every >station we went past that could (i.e. Camberwell (??) and Bayswater) had >plenty of air conditioned trains sitting there doing sweet FA.
Those airconditioned trains were probably victims of the heat themselves. Comeng's tend to shit themselves when it's over 30.
M.
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Gender: MR Last name: Bowen First name: Daniel Email: dbo...@custard.net.au Comments: Why on earth are you running short weekend trains at Christmas time? Don't you know how overcrowded they get? I just wanted to let you know that I took my kids to Puffing Billy today. I did not use the train; I drove in part because I knew that travelling in your short train would be uncomfortable because of overcrowding. Regards, Daniel ====
I got an e-mail back this afternoon from someone at leoburnett.com.au (no idea who they are; their web site doesn't reveal anything) saying it had been passed to "the appropriate Connex representative".
> PS. http://www.connexmelbourne.com.au/ Click FAQs/Contact Connex and have a > rant. Let's see if they get back you within 24 hours like they say they > will. I'm having a go at them now, and will do Bayside after that.
> "Morphet" <morp...@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message > news:l6jo3ton5dovl2dpj4167aeig38q0js71t@4ax.com... > > December 16 is 9 days before Christmas (as it was last year!) and > > people take that "once a year" trip into the city by Public Transport > > to do their Christmas Shopping.
> > One would think that this would be an opportunity to impress these > > passengers and maybe get some return business, but can Mr Connex > > please tell me how you are going to impress anybody when you run 3 > > carriage trains during one of the busy times of the year, and have > > people hanging out the window.
> > It was really nice Mr Connex when we went past Camberwell Station (and > > Ringwood...and Bayswater) and saw all those nice trains sitting empty > > in the sidings, at least I assume they were sitting there...it was > > quite hard to see anything apart from the armpit of that guy who seems > > to never wear deodorant (does he follow me around, or is there more > > than one of them??)
> > Mr Connex, you have got to do more basic things to get more passengers > > then paint your trains and give yourself a name change.
> > (Does anybody know what amount of cost savings they get from running 3 > > carriage sets, and the reasons they give for doing so?)
> Whats the point in trying... the email address is returned as unknown > mailbox
> >------Transcript of session follows ------- > >r.morri...@ptc.vic.gov.au > >550 <r.morri...@ptc.vic.gov.au> Mailbox not found.
> so.. no.. they won't get back to you within 24 hours, because they won't get > it!
> btw.. I complained about 3 car trains on weekends in November last year, > they rang me and said they would look into it... blah, blah, usual crap...
> > "Morphet" <morp...@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message > > news:l6jo3ton5dovl2dpj4167aeig38q0js71t@4ax.com... > > > December 16 is 9 days before Christmas (as it was last year!) and > > > people take that "once a year" trip into the city by Public Transport > > > to do their Christmas Shopping.
> > > One would think that this would be an opportunity to impress these > > > passengers and maybe get some return business, but can Mr Connex > > > please tell me how you are going to impress anybody when you run 3 > > > carriage trains during one of the busy times of the year, and have > > > people hanging out the window.
> > > It was really nice Mr Connex when we went past Camberwell Station (and > > > Ringwood...and Bayswater) and saw all those nice trains sitting empty > > > in the sidings, at least I assume they were sitting there...it was > > > quite hard to see anything apart from the armpit of that guy who seems > > > to never wear deodorant (does he follow me around, or is there more > > > than one of them??)
> > > Mr Connex, you have got to do more basic things to get more passengers > > > then paint your trains and give yourself a name change.
> > > (Does anybody know what amount of cost savings they get from running 3 > > > carriage sets, and the reasons they give for doing so?)
> I sent a comment via the Connex web site yesterday. > ==== > >>> <dbo...@custard.net.au> 12/18/00 03:24pm >>> > Gender: MR > Last name: Bowen > First name: Daniel > Email: dbo...@custard.net.au > Comments: Why on earth are you running short weekend trains at Christmas > time? Don't you know how overcrowded they get? > I just wanted to let you know that I took my kids to Puffing Billy today. > I did not use the train; I drove in part because I knew that travelling in > your short train would be uncomfortable because of overcrowding. > Regards, Daniel > ====
> I got an e-mail back this afternoon from someone at leoburnett.com.au (no > idea who they are; their web site doesn't reveal anything) saying it had > been passed to "the appropriate Connex representative".
> "Daniel Bowen" <dbo...@custard.REMOVE.net.au> wrote: > > I got an e-mail back this afternoon from someone at leoburnett.com.au (no > > idea who they are; their web site doesn't reveal anything) saying it had > > been passed to "the appropriate Connex representative".
> In other words, never to be heard of again.
Leo Burnett is a franchised advertising agency name. Sounds like the initial complaint handling has been outsourced - hardly a good start to the process because it makes one wonder if a non-employee would even know who the appropriate person is.
"rmorri...@connexmelboune.com.au" is in correct because it is missing "r" in MelbouRne. Typo error?? Perhaps this will explain why the message failed to deliver?
> Does that get forwarded to r.morri...@ptc.vic.gov.au and bounce?
AFAIK, most employees now have e-mail address ends with "....@connexmelbourne.com.au" ...
In article <3a3d912d$0$19402$7f31c...@news01.syd.optusnet.com.au>, "Alex Pout" <alp...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> Along those lines, how about suffering in a non air-conditioned train from > Parliament to Boronia last week when it was about 35 degrees while every > station we went past that could (i.e. Camberwell (??) and Bayswater) had > plenty of air conditioned trains sitting there doing sweet FA.
That's why it's such a pity the Harris trains have long gone... you could open the doors at any time and get a great breeze blowing through the car at speed, much nicer than aircon IMHO.
jsh...@westpac.com.au wrote in <91n908$dm...@nnrp1.deja.com>:
>That's why it's such a pity the Harris trains have long gone... you >could open the doors at any time and get a great breeze blowing through >the car at speed, much nicer than aircon IMHO.
Too politically incorrect. Someone could easily darwinise themself.
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> Does that get forwarded to r.morri...@ptc.vic.gov.au and bounce?
> Arthur.
yeah, that was it, will try again with by direct email (not that they will reply) considering they can't get their timetables in table format online, obviously they don't know what to do when they change email addresses!
> > >------Transcript of session follows ------- > > >r.morri...@ptc.vic.gov.au > > >550 <r.morri...@ptc.vic.gov.au> Mailbox not found.
> > so.. no.. they won't get back to you within 24 hours, because they won't > get > > it!
> > btw.. I complained about 3 car trains on weekends in November last year, > > they rang me and said they would look into it... blah, blah, usual crap...
> > cheers > > Johann
> > Daniel Bowen <dbo...@custard.REMOVE.net.au> wrote in message > > news:XN%_5.21662$xW4.169491@news-server.bigpond.net.au... > > > PS. http://www.connexmelbourne.com.au/ Click FAQs/Contact Connex and > have > > a > > > rant. Let's see if they get back you within 24 hours like they say they > > > will. I'm having a go at them now, and will do Bayside after that.
> > > "Morphet" <morp...@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message > > > news:l6jo3ton5dovl2dpj4167aeig38q0js71t@4ax.com... > > > > December 16 is 9 days before Christmas (as it was last year!) and > > > > people take that "once a year" trip into the city by Public Transport > > > > to do their Christmas Shopping.
> > > > One would think that this would be an opportunity to impress these > > > > passengers and maybe get some return business, but can Mr Connex > > > > please tell me how you are going to impress anybody when you run 3 > > > > carriage trains during one of the busy times of the year, and have > > > > people hanging out the window.
> > > > It was really nice Mr Connex when we went past Camberwell Station (and > > > > Ringwood...and Bayswater) and saw all those nice trains sitting empty > > > > in the sidings, at least I assume they were sitting there...it was > > > > quite hard to see anything apart from the armpit of that guy who seems > > > > to never wear deodorant (does he follow me around, or is there more > > > > than one of them??)
> > > > Mr Connex, you have got to do more basic things to get more passengers > > > > then paint your trains and give yourself a name change.
> > > > (Does anybody know what amount of cost savings they get from running 3 > > > > carriage sets, and the reasons they give for doing so?)
> > Does that get forwarded to r.morri...@ptc.vic.gov.au and bounce?
> > Arthur.
> yeah, that was it, will try again with by direct email (not that they will > reply) > considering they can't get their timetables in table format online, > obviously they don't know what to do when they change email addresses!
> > > >------Transcript of session follows ------- > > > >r.morri...@ptc.vic.gov.au > > > >550 <r.morri...@ptc.vic.gov.au> Mailbox not found.
> > > so.. no.. they won't get back to you within 24 hours, because they won't > > get > > > it!
> > > btw.. I complained about 3 car trains on weekends in November last year, > > > they rang me and said they would look into it... blah, blah, usual > crap...
> > > cheers > > > Johann
> > > Daniel Bowen <dbo...@custard.REMOVE.net.au> wrote in message > > > news:XN%_5.21662$xW4.169491@news-server.bigpond.net.au... > > > > PS. http://www.connexmelbourne.com.au/ Click FAQs/Contact Connex and > > have > > > a > > > > rant. Let's see if they get back you within 24 hours like they say > they > > > > will. I'm having a go at them now, and will do Bayside after that.
> > > > "Morphet" <morp...@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message > > > > news:l6jo3ton5dovl2dpj4167aeig38q0js71t@4ax.com... > > > > > December 16 is 9 days before Christmas (as it was last year!) and > > > > > people take that "once a year" trip into the city by Public > Transport > > > > > to do their Christmas Shopping.
> > > > > One would think that this would be an opportunity to impress these > > > > > passengers and maybe get some return business, but can Mr Connex > > > > > please tell me how you are going to impress anybody when you run 3 > > > > > carriage trains during one of the busy times of the year, and have > > > > > people hanging out the window.
> > > > > It was really nice Mr Connex when we went past Camberwell Station > (and > > > > > Ringwood...and Bayswater) and saw all those nice trains sitting > empty > > > > > in the sidings, at least I assume they were sitting there...it was > > > > > quite hard to see anything apart from the armpit of that guy who > seems > > > > > to never wear deodorant (does he follow me around, or is there more > > > > > than one of them??)
> > > > > Mr Connex, you have got to do more basic things to get more > passengers > > > > > then paint your trains and give yourself a name change.
> > > > > (Does anybody know what amount of cost savings they get from running > 3 > > > > > carriage sets, and the reasons they give for doing so?)
<jsh...@westpac.com.au> wrote in message news:91n908$dms$1@nnrp1.deja.com... > In article <3a3d912d$0$19402$7f31c...@news01.syd.optusnet.com.au>, > "Alex Pout" <alp...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> > Along those lines, how about suffering in a non air-conditioned train > from > > Parliament to Boronia last week when it was about 35 degrees while > every > > station we went past that could (i.e. Camberwell (??) and Bayswater) > had > > plenty of air conditioned trains sitting there doing sweet FA.
> That's why it's such a pity the Harris trains have long gone... you > could open the doors at any time and get a great breeze blowing through > the car at speed, much nicer than aircon IMHO.
One problem was that the train was an all stations, not much chance to get up speed and hold it.
Even the Red Rattlers in the Hunter have fans, and they're only about 50 years old.
> My query bounced too - I have forwarded it and pointed out their error. > They're looking more like a bunch of amateurs every day, aren't they...
That's short-changing amateurs! Sometimes amateurs do better than the professionals - eg your site + Chris Brownbill's + Meltrip versus the 'professional' Victrip!
> Daniel Bowen <dbo...@custard.REMOVE.net.au> wrote in message > news:zwI%5.24909$xW4.192717@news-server.bigpond.net.au... > > My query bounced too - I have forwarded it and pointed out their error. > > They're looking more like a bunch of amateurs every day, aren't they...
> That's short-changing amateurs! Sometimes amateurs do better than the > professionals - eg > your site + Chris Brownbill's + Meltrip versus the 'professional' Victrip!
Hey, do you reckon Victrip won a tender? Anybody want to put in a rival bid the next time it comes up?
I have seriously considered putting up a fully fledged rival site, proper domain name and everything. meltrip.com is available :-)
> Hey, do you reckon Victrip won a tender? Anybody want to put in a rival bid > the next time it comes up?
Worth finding out.
Does anyone know the exact URL for the government site that supposedly reveals (some of) those contracts that were kept secret during the Kennett era? I think it was talked about on 3LO last week (they said that the big train and tram contracts were still secret).
I'll try www.vic.gov.au as a starter and see what I get.
> Does anyone know the exact URL for the government site that > supposedly reveals (some of) those contracts that were kept > secret during the Kennett era?
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