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news:1134103076.017891.236040@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... >> However what sticks in the craw of host countries is cries from Middle >> As for messing things up - this problem has been brewing for some time. >> Fuller report of the incident here. The attack seems brutal and > You are making too many assumptions: that all these Lebanese teens are "Some regular Cronulla beachgoers said that the behaviour of Middle
>> I do not support his position - this should be dealt with by the I said that Middle East immigrants (as reported in the paper) are
>> Police.
>> East immigrants (usually Lebanese Muslims in Australia) like "GET off
>> our beach. This is our beach. We own it.". You can say this is just
>> ganf bravado, but that won't wash because very similar remarks have
>> been heard on the streets of Paris, Aarhus, Malmo and elsewhere -
>> always from Muslims. There does not seem to be any restraint in the
>> culture of these people, their leaders are nowhere to be seen, either
>> stupid old men with beards who try to pretend it is not happenning, or
>> young extremists egging the thugs on. The cry also has resonance in the
>> history of Islam, i.e. any land once occupied by Muslims is claimed by
>> Islam in perpetuity.
>> VoteFromTheRooftops is a symptom that resentment of continuous bad
>> behaviour is boiling over.
>> unprovoked to me.
>> http://dailytelegraph.news.com.au/story/0,20281,17469247-5001022,00.html
> Muslims. They could also be Christians, can they not?
usually Lebanese Muslims in Australia. I believe this to be correct. I
do not think you really believe these people are Lebanese Christians,
do you?
> If there is gang That goes against the typical behaviour of most beachgoers, which is to
> activity, I say bust these guys. But I suspect that there is more to
> this story than what the author of this article are leading you to
> believe. There is a lot of open racism in Australia---at least that's
> what I have heard from people who have lived there. So it could be
> that some white Australians made a claim that it was their beach, and
> these Lebanese youths were retorting that, no, it was their beach.
share the facilities, and also against what the paper said:
Eastern groups was so offensive, they opted to travel to other beaches
instead."
> I think you need to do bit more research on this story and not There is obviously more to this story, which the same paper has covered
> stereotype.
in other articles. I do not think you can find any factual innacuracy
in my post, though the implication that we are seeing agressive
behaviour by Muslim immigrants here is something I think even you would
accept.
This is tangential to the beach story, and I do not think it has any
bearing on it.