> Hunter wrote: >> Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF > wrote: >>> Seon Ferguson wrote: >>>> Nope but that doesn't give us the right to torture people. Two >>>> wrongs don't make a right.
>>> What goes around comes around. Arselifters are yet to learn that.
>> Which ones, for instance should I go and murder all Christians for >> what the Brethren are doing to destroy Australian families? Don't be a >> hypocrite here. You're saying it's all or none, so explain that.
> Where did I say "all or none"?
You're constantly referring to all Muslims. You seem incapable of differentiating between one and the next, so why would you do so with Christians or any other group unless you were being a hypocrite?
> > Hunter wrote: > >> Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF > wrote: > >>> Seon Ferguson wrote: > >>>> Nope but that doesn't give us the right to torture people. Two > >>>> wrongs don't make a right.
> >>> What goes around comes around. Arselifters are yet to learn that.
> >> Which ones, for instance should I go and murder all Christians for > >> what the Brethren are doing to destroy Australian families? Don't be a > >> hypocrite here. You're saying it's all or none, so explain that.
> > Where did I say "all or none"?
> You're constantly referring to all Muslims. You seem incapable of > differentiating between one and the next, so why would you do so with > Christians or any other group unless you were being a hypocrite?
Re: Muslims..A man I knew, a US Army veteran told me "I've known good ones and I've known bad ones. they're the same!"
Al Nakba wrote: > On Nov 3, 5:29 am, Hunter <hunte...@iinet.net.au> wrote: >> Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF > wrote:
>>> Hunter wrote: >>>> Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF > wrote: >>>>> Seon Ferguson wrote: >>>>>> Nope but that doesn't give us the right to torture people. Two >>>>>> wrongs don't make a right. >>>>> What goes around comes around. Arselifters are yet to learn that. >>>> Which ones, for instance should I go and murder all Christians for >>>> what the Brethren are doing to destroy Australian families? Don't be a >>>> hypocrite here. You're saying it's all or none, so explain that. >>> Where did I say "all or none"?
<quote> [all] Arselifters are yet to learn that....</quote>
Wot kind of twot makes a statement and then tries to deny it? Do you stand by what you say or don't you?
>> You're constantly referring to all Muslims. You seem incapable of >> differentiating between one and the next, so why would you do so with >> Christians or any other group unless you were being a hypocrite?
> Re: Muslims..A man I knew, a US Army veteran told me "I've known good > ones and I've known bad ones. they're the same!"
So you're saying that your mate is unable to distinguish between good and bad.
Al Nakba wrote: > On Nov 3, 5:29 am, Hunter <hunte...@iinet.net.au> wrote: >> Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF > wrote:
>>> Hunter wrote: >>>> Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF > wrote: >>>>> Seon Ferguson wrote: >>>>>> Nope but that doesn't give us the right to torture people. Two >>>>>> wrongs don't make a right. >>>>> What goes around comes around. Arselifters are yet to learn that. >>>> Which ones, for instance should I go and murder all Christians for >>>> what the Brethren are doing to destroy Australian families? Don't be a >>>> hypocrite here. You're saying it's all or none, so explain that. >>> Where did I say "all or none"? >> You're constantly referring to all Muslims. You seem incapable of >> differentiating between one and the next, so why would you do so with >> Christians or any other group unless you were being a hypocrite?
> Re: Muslims..A man I knew, a US Army veteran told me "I've known good > ones and I've known bad ones. they're the same!"
A boy in counselling told the world he only ever knew one christian priest, pity he fucked him up the arse. You refer to one insane mussie in a place with the population of the US, how about the hundreds of these pedophile cunts in a place as small as Australia????
Christian pedophiles in Australia (something you can not find from any other religion):
Fuck it, there's way too many pedophile priests to list them all individually, find the full list here, well over 100 of them, seems pretty normal for Christian priests to be sick fucks :
>> And barbaric when the Christians do it, and barbaric when anyone does >> it. But to be honest, in my opinion, if it saves 10,000 lives to >> torture information out of one scumbag who is the incarnation of evil, >> and has the information that will save those lives, I'm all for it. >> Political correctness has gone too far, the ends DO justify the means >> in some cases.
> Ok when you tortured people like the 911 mastermind that was justified > because it prevented more 911 attacks but come on, do you really believe > that some kid who was in the wrong place at the wrong time would know > anything about the next 911?
You'd be insane to think innocents aren't caught up in it, but if it takes a bit of pain for a few innocents where there's a lot of pain for a lot of guility, I'm all for it. Fuck, cops regularly beat the shit out of people to get information about petty crap which does not justify this sort of treatment. If people can get the crap beat out of them over petty crap by cops without the public giving two-shits I think the world can cop a bit of pain to avoid bombs that blow up hundreds if not thousands.
Not saying it's right, but there's a fuck of a lot better reason for this shit happening over this than happens to citizens in every city of the world every day under your radar at the hands of standard law enforcement, with people shrugging and moving on to the next page of the paper over their morning corn-flakes when the cops do get caught out.
>>> And barbaric when the Christians do it, and barbaric when anyone does >>> it. But to be honest, in my opinion, if it saves 10,000 lives to torture >>> information out of one scumbag who is the incarnation of evil, and has >>> the information that will save those lives, I'm all for it. Political >>> correctness has gone too far, the ends DO justify the means in some >>> cases.
>> Ok when you tortured people like the 911 mastermind that was justified >> because it prevented more 911 attacks but come on, do you really believe >> that some kid who was in the wrong place at the wrong time would know >> anything about the next 911?
> You'd be insane to think innocents aren't caught up in it, but if it takes > a bit of pain for a few innocents where there's a lot of pain for a lot of > guility, I'm all for it. Fuck, cops regularly beat the shit out of people > to get information about petty crap which does not justify this sort of > treatment. If people can get the crap beat out of them over petty crap by > cops without the public giving two-shits I think the world can cop a bit > of pain to avoid bombs that blow up hundreds if not thousands.
> Not saying it's right, but there's a fuck of a lot better reason for this > shit happening over this than happens to citizens in every city of the > world every day under your radar at the hands of standard law enforcement, > with people shrugging and moving on to the next page of the paper over > their morning corn-flakes when the cops do get caught out.
I don't think torture can ever be justified. It is cowardly when the terrorists Hamas do it and cowardly when the "good guys" (well compared to Hamas America is the good guys) do it. It's also cowardly when police beat suspects. Doing that to someone who can't defend him or her self is just well...cowardly. But if we know the guy's are big in the terrorist cells I wouldn't object to enhanced interrogation techniques.
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 13:43:49 +1100, Seon Ferguson wrote: > Ok when you tortured people like the 911 mastermind that was justified > because it prevented more 911 attacks
It did no such thing. 1) He had already publicly admitted his involvement many times. 2) Torture by the western allies just brings more people to the cause.
> On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 13:43:49 +1100, Seon Ferguson wrote:
>> Ok when you tortured people like the 911 mastermind that was justified >> because it prevented more 911 attacks
> It did no such thing. > 1) He had already publicly admitted his involvement many times. > 2) Torture by the western allies just brings more people to the cause.
Yeah but another 911 has not happened. I hate torture but I don't know how to debate that fact...
>>> Ok when you tortured people like the 911 mastermind >>> that was justified because it prevented more 911 attacks
>> It did no such thing. >> 1) He had already publicly admitted his involvement many times. >> 2) Torture by the western allies just brings more people to the cause.
> Yeah but another 911 has not happened. I hate > torture but I don't know how to debate that fact...
Do you mean the attack didn't happen on the same day?
Otherwise, you can start by using such easy words like "prevention" of terrorist acts, as well as "better security".... -- _____________________________________________________
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"The army that will defeat terrorism doesn't wear uniforms, or drive Humvees, or calls in air-strikes. It doesn't have a high command, or high security, or a high budget. The army that can defeat terrorism does battle quietly, clearing minefields and vaccinating children. It undermines military dictatorships and military lobbyists. It subverts sweatshops and special interests.Where people feel powerless, it helps them organize for change, and where people are powerful, it reminds them of their responsibility." ~~~~ Author Unknown ~~~~ ___________________________________________________ --
>>>> Ok when you tortured people like the 911 mastermind >>>> that was justified because it prevented more 911 attacks
>>> It did no such thing. >>> 1) He had already publicly admitted his involvement many times. >>> 2) Torture by the western allies just brings more people to the cause.
>> Yeah but another 911 has not happened. I hate >> torture but I don't know how to debate that fact...
> Do you mean the attack didn't happen on the same day?
Ok since 911 consisted of 4 hijackings by Muslim extremists let me rephrase that. In 8 years since the day after 911 there has never been a terrorist attack on American soil.
> Otherwise, you can start by using such easy words like > "prevention" of terrorist acts, as well as "better security".... > -- > _____________________________________________________
> I intend to last long enough to put out of business all COck-suckers > and other beneficiaries of the institutionalized slavery and genocide.
> "The army that will defeat terrorism doesn't wear uniforms, or drive > Humvees, or calls in air-strikes. It doesn't have a high command, or > high security, or a high budget. The army that can defeat terrorism > does battle quietly, clearing minefields and vaccinating children. It > undermines military dictatorships and military lobbyists. It subverts > sweatshops and special interests.Where people feel powerless, it > helps them organize for change, and where people are powerful, it > reminds them of their responsibility." ~~~~ Author Unknown ~~~~ > ___________________________________________________ > --
> >>>> Ok when you tortured people like the 911 mastermind > >>>> that was justified because it prevented more 911 attacks
> >>> It did no such thing. > >>> 1) He had already publicly admitted his involvement many times. > >>> 2) Torture by the western allies just brings more people to the cause.
> >> Yeah but another 911 has not happened. I hate > >> torture but I don't know how to debate that fact...
> > Do you mean the attack didn't happen on the same day?
> Ok since 911 consisted of 4 hijackings by Muslim extremists let me rephrase > that. > In 8 years since the day after 911 there has never been a terrorist attack > on American soil.
I'll forgive your ignorance of muslime pig terrorism in the USA because you're you live in AUS.
However, muslime fucks HAVE committed at least three acts of terrorism (and others have been thwarted) including:
i. the Beltway Sniper killings ii. the recent shooting of unarmed US soldiers at Fort Hood iii. the imam shootout (I forget the location) iv. the shooting of unarmed US Army recruiters v. the shooting of Robert F. Kennedy by Sirhan-Sirhan
all of the above committed by muslimes in the name of allah, bumhamamd and pislam.
cornholio wrote: > On Nov 8, 6:57 pm, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote: >> "_ G O D _" <DEMI...@TELUS.NET> wrote in messagenews:WsFJm.51986$PH1.28021@edtnps82...
>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote >>> news:n4OdnX6C1KswGmvXnZ2dnUVZ_gydnZ2d@westnet.com.au... >>>> "terryc" <newsninespam-s...@woa.com.au> wrote >>>> news:hd5vju$d2l$2@news.eternal-september.org... >>>>> Seon Ferguson wrote: >>>>>> Ok when you tortured people like the 911 mastermind >>>>>> that was justified because it prevented more 911 attacks >>>>> It did no such thing. >>>>> 1) He had already publicly admitted his involvement many times. >>>>> 2) Torture by the western allies just brings more people to the cause. >>>> Yeah but another 911 has not happened. I hate >>>> torture but I don't know how to debate that fact... >>> Do you mean the attack didn't happen on the same day? >> Ok since 911 consisted of 4 hijackings by Muslim extremists let me rephrase >> that. >> In 8 years since the day after 911 there has never been a terrorist attack >> on American soil.
> I'll forgive your ignorance of muslime pig terrorism in the USA > because you live in AUS.
> However, muslime fucks HAVE committed at least three acts of terrorism > (and others have been thwarted) including:
> i. the Beltway Sniper killings > ii. the recent shooting of unarmed US soldiers at Fort Hood > iii. the imam shootout (I forget the location) > iv. the shooting of unarmed US Army recruiters > v. the shooting of Robert F. Kennedy by Sirhan-Sirhan
> all of the above committed by muslimes in the name of > allah, bumhamamd and pislam.
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>> >>>> Ok when you tortured people like the 911 mastermind >> >>>> that was justified because it prevented more 911 attacks
>> >>> It did no such thing. >> >>> 1) He had already publicly admitted his involvement many times. >> >>> 2) Torture by the western allies just brings more people to the >> >>> cause.
>> >> Yeah but another 911 has not happened. I hate >> >> torture but I don't know how to debate that fact...
>> > Do you mean the attack didn't happen on the same day?
>> Ok since 911 consisted of 4 hijackings by Muslim extremists let me >> rephrase >> that. >> In 8 years since the day after 911 there has never been a terrorist >> attack >> on American soil.
> I'll forgive your ignorance of muslime pig terrorism in the USA > because > you're you live in AUS.
> However, muslime fucks HAVE committed at least three acts of terrorism > (and others have been thwarted) including:
> i. the Beltway Sniper killings > ii. the recent shooting of unarmed US soldiers at Fort Hood > iii. the imam shootout (I forget the location) > iv. the shooting of unarmed US Army recruiters
I can't argue with those facts but it is still true that there hasn't been a terrorist attack as terrible as 911.
> v. the shooting of Robert F. Kennedy by Sirhan-Sirhan
Where is the evidence this happened? If it wasn't for Sirhan-Sirhan we wouldn't know Dick Cheyney was willing to blow up boats and blame it on Iran. So please provide evidence.
>>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote >>>> news:n4OdnX6C1KswGmvXnZ2dnUVZ_gydnZ2d@westnet.com.au... >>>>> "terryc" <newsninespam-s...@woa.com.au> wrote >>>>> news:hd5vju$d2l$2@news.eternal-september.org... >>>>>> Seon Ferguson wrote: >>>>>>> Ok when you tortured people like the 911 mastermind >>>>>>> that was justified because it prevented more 911 attacks >>>>>> It did no such thing. >>>>>> 1) He had already publicly admitted his involvement many times. >>>>>> 2) Torture by the western allies just brings more people to the >>>>>> cause. >>>>> Yeah but another 911 has not happened. I hate >>>>> torture but I don't know how to debate that fact... >>>> Do you mean the attack didn't happen on the same day? >>> Ok since 911 consisted of 4 hijackings by Muslim extremists let me >>> rephrase >>> that. >>> In 8 years since the day after 911 there has never been a terrorist >>> attack >>> on American soil.
>> I'll forgive your ignorance of muslime pig terrorism in the USA >> because you live in AUS.
>> However, muslime fucks HAVE committed at least three acts of terrorism >> (and others have been thwarted) including:
>> i. the Beltway Sniper killings >> ii. the recent shooting of unarmed US soldiers at Fort Hood >> iii. the imam shootout (I forget the location) >> iv. the shooting of unarmed US Army recruiters >> v. the shooting of Robert F. Kennedy by Sirhan-Sirhan
>> all of the above committed by muslimes in the name of >> allah, bumhamamd and pislam.
> "The Labour Party is corrupt beyond redemption!" > - Labour hasbeen Mark Latham in a moment of honest clarity.
> "This is the recession we had to have!" > - Paul Keating explaining why he gave Australia another Labour recession.
> "Silly old bugger!" > - Well known ACTU pisspot and sometime Labour prime minister Bob Hawke > responding to a pensioner who dared ask for more.
> "By 1990, no child will live in poverty" > - Bob Hawke again, desperate to win another election.
> "A billion trees ..." > - Borke, pissed as a newt again.
> "Well may we say 'God save the Queen' because nothing will save the > governor general!" > - Egotistical shithead and pompous fuckwit E.G. Whitlam whining about his > appointee for Governor General John Kerr.
> "SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU DUMB CUNT!" > - FlangesBum on learning the truth about Labour's economic capabilities.
> "I don't care what you fuckers think!" > - KRudd the KRude at his finest again.
> "We'll just change it all when we get in." > - Garrett the carrott
>>>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote >>>>> news:n4OdnX6C1KswGmvXnZ2dnUVZ_gydnZ2d@westnet.com.au... >>>>>> "terryc" <newsninespam-s...@woa.com.au> wrote >>>>>> news:hd5vju$d2l$2@news.eternal-september.org... >>>>>>> Seon Ferguson wrote: >>>>>>>> Ok when you tortured people like the 911 mastermind >>>>>>>> that was justified because it prevented more 911 attacks >>>>>>> It did no such thing. >>>>>>> 1) He had already publicly admitted his involvement many times. >>>>>>> 2) Torture by the western allies just brings more people to the >>>>>>> cause. >>>>>> Yeah but another 911 has not happened. I hate >>>>>> torture but I don't know how to debate that fact... >>>>> Do you mean the attack didn't happen on the same day? >>>> Ok since 911 consisted of 4 hijackings by Muslim extremists let me >>>> rephrase that. >>>> In 8 years since the day after 911 there has never been a terrorist >>>> attack on American soil.
>>> I'll forgive your ignorance of muslime pig terrorism in the USA >>> because you live in AUS.
>>> However, muslime fucks HAVE committed at least three acts of terrorism >>> (and others have been thwarted) including:
>>> i. the Beltway Sniper killings >>> ii. the recent shooting of unarmed US soldiers at Fort Hood >>> iii. the imam shootout (I forget the location) >>> iv. the shooting of unarmed US Army recruiters >>> v. the shooting of Robert F. Kennedy by Sirhan-Sirhan
>>> all of the above committed by muslimes in the name of >>> allah, bumhamamd and pislam.
"The Labour Party is corrupt beyond redemption!" - Labour hasbeen Mark Latham in a moment of honest clarity.
"This is the recession we had to have!" - Paul Keating explaining why he gave Australia another Labour recession.
"Silly old bugger!" - Well known ACTU pisspot and sometime Labour prime minister Bob Hawke responding to a pensioner who dared ask for more.
"By 1990, no child will live in poverty" - Bob Hawke again, desperate to win another election.
"A billion trees ..." - Borke, pissed as a newt again.
"Well may we say 'God save the Queen' because nothing will save the governor general!" - Egotistical shithead and pompous fuckwit E.G. Whitlam whining about his appointee for Governor General John Kerr.
"SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU DUMB CUNT!" - FlangesBum on learning the truth about Labour's economic capabilities.
"I don't care what you fuckers think!" - KRudd the KRude at his finest again.
"We'll just change it all when we get in." - Garrett the carrott
> >> >>>> Ok when you tortured people like the 911 mastermind > >> >>>> that was justified because it prevented more 911 attacks
> >> >>> It did no such thing. > >> >>> 1) He had already publicly admitted his involvement many times. > >> >>> 2) Torture by the western allies just brings more people to the > >> >>> cause.
> >> >> Yeah but another 911 has not happened. I hate > >> >> torture but I don't know how to debate that fact...
> >> > Do you mean the attack didn't happen on the same day?
> >> Ok since 911 consisted of 4 hijackings by Muslim extremists let me > >> rephrase > >> that. > >> In 8 years since the day after 911 there has never been a terrorist > >> attack > >> on American soil.
> > I'll forgive your ignorance of muslime pig terrorism in the USA > > because > > you're you live in AUS.
> > However, muslime fucks HAVE committed at least three acts of terrorism > > (and others have been thwarted) including:
> > i. the Beltway Sniper killings > > ii. the recent shooting of unarmed US soldiers at Fort Hood > > iii. the imam shootout (I forget the location) > > iv. the shooting of unarmed US Army recruiters
> I can't argue with those facts but it is still true that there hasn't been a > terrorist attack as terrible as 911.
> > v. the shooting of Robert F. Kennedy by Sirhan-Sirhan
> Where is the evidence this happened?
What? Are you doubting that Sirhan Sirhan shot RFK?
> If it wasn't for Sirhan-Sirhan we > wouldn't know Dick Cheyney was willing to blow up boats and blame it on > Iran.
Oh Seon, I didn't know you started smoking crack.
> So please provide evidence.
I see a lot of evidence you've cracked up.
> > all of the above committed by muslimes in the name of > > allah, bumhamamd and pislam.
> > Wake the fuck up.
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>>>>>> Yeah but another 911 has not happened. I hate >>>>>> torture but I don't know how to debate that fact... >>>>> Do you mean the attack didn't happen on the same day? >>>> Ok since 911 consisted of 4 hijackings by Muslim extremists let me rephrase >>>> that. In 8 years since the day after 911 there has never been a terrorist attack >>>> on American soil.
>>> I'll forgive your ignorance of muslime pig terrorism in the USA >>> because you live in AUS.
>>> However, muslime fucks HAVE committed at least three >>> acts of terrorism (and others have been thwarted) including:
>>> i. the Beltway Sniper killings >>> ii. the recent shooting of unarmed US soldiers at Fort Hood >>> iii. the imam shootout (I forget the location) >>> iv. the shooting of unarmed US Army recruiters >>> v. the shooting of Robert F. Kennedy by Sirhan-Sirhan
>>> all of the above committed by muslimes in the name of >>> allah, bumhamamd and pislam.
> As I said I meant on the scale of 911. But how many has the FBI prevented?
And now, you've successfully debated your own words, by admitting that prevention in being alert and vigilant works better than any torture as you've insisted before.
In fact, torture can provoke the terrorist acts rather than preventing them - as well as to reduce trust in authority.... -- _____________________________________________________
I intend to last long enough to put out of business all COck-suckers and other beneficiaries of the institutionalized slavery and genocide.
"The army that will defeat terrorism doesn't wear uniforms, or drive Humvees, or calls in air-strikes. It doesn't have a high command, or high security, or a high budget. The army that can defeat terrorism does battle quietly, clearing minefields and vaccinating children. It undermines military dictatorships and military lobbyists. It subverts sweatshops and special interests.Where people feel powerless, it helps them organize for change, and where people are powerful, it reminds them of their responsibility." ~~~~ Author Unknown ~~~~ ___________________________________________________ --
>>> >>>> Ok when you tortured people like the 911 mastermind >>> >>>> that was justified because it prevented more 911 attacks
>>> >>> It did no such thing. >>> >>> 1) He had already publicly admitted his involvement many times. >>> >>> 2) Torture by the western allies just brings more people to the >>> >>> cause.
>>> >> Yeah but another 911 has not happened. I hate >>> >> torture but I don't know how to debate that fact...
>>> > Do you mean the attack didn't happen on the same day?
>>> Ok since 911 consisted of 4 hijackings by Muslim extremists let me >>> rephrase >>> that. >>> In 8 years since the day after 911 there has never been a terrorist >>> attack >>> on American soil.
>> I'll forgive your ignorance of muslime pig terrorism in the USA >> because >> you're you live in AUS.
>> However, muslime fucks HAVE committed at least three acts of terrorism >> (and others have been thwarted) including:
>> i. the Beltway Sniper killings >> ii. the recent shooting of unarmed US soldiers at Fort Hood >> iii. the imam shootout (I forget the location) >> iv. the shooting of unarmed US Army recruiters
> I can't argue with those facts but it is still true that there hasn't been > a terrorist attack as terrible as 911.
>> v. the shooting of Robert F. Kennedy by Sirhan-Sirhan
> Where is the evidence this happened? If it wasn't for Sirhan-Sirhan we > wouldn't know Dick Cheyney was willing to blow up boats and blame it on > Iran. So please provide evidence.
Oops I got this mixed up. I was thinking of this guy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r29BtzfSz0o I'm sure BDK will quote me on this later. I forgot to take out alt.conspiracy But I will ask why you omitted the woman in the yellow dress and the people who said "We killed him" after RFK was killed. Excuse the mix up. BDK probably won't.
>>>>>>> Yeah but another 911 has not happened. I hate >>>>>>> torture but I don't know how to debate that fact... >>>>>> Do you mean the attack didn't happen on the same day? >>>>> Ok since 911 consisted of 4 hijackings by Muslim extremists let me >>>>> rephrase that. In 8 years since the day after 911 there has never been >>>>> a terrorist attack >>>>> on American soil.
>>>> I'll forgive your ignorance of muslime pig terrorism in the USA >>>> because you live in AUS.
>>>> However, muslime fucks HAVE committed at least three >>>> acts of terrorism (and others have been thwarted) including:
>>>> i. the Beltway Sniper killings >>>> ii. the recent shooting of unarmed US soldiers at Fort Hood >>>> iii. the imam shootout (I forget the location) >>>> iv. the shooting of unarmed US Army recruiters >>>> v. the shooting of Robert F. Kennedy by Sirhan-Sirhan
>>>> all of the above committed by muslimes in the name of >>>> allah, bumhamamd and pislam.
>> As I said I meant on the scale of 911. But how many has the FBI >> prevented?
> And now, you've successfully debated your own words, > by admitting that prevention in being alert and vigilant > works better than any torture as you've insisted before.
> In fact, torture can provoke the terrorist acts rather than > preventing them - as well as to reduce trust in authority.... > --
And information under torture can't be taken seriously.
> "The army that will defeat terrorism doesn't wear uniforms, or drive > Humvees, or calls in air-strikes. It doesn't have a high command, or > high security, or a high budget. The army that can defeat terrorism > does battle quietly, clearing minefields and vaccinating children. It > undermines military dictatorships and military lobbyists. It subverts > sweatshops and special interests.Where people feel powerless, it > helps them organize for change, and where people are powerful, it > reminds them of their responsibility." ~~~~ Author Unknown ~~~~ > ___________________________________________________ > --
Discussion subject changed to "Arselifters love stoning people. NOW ... Let There Be ROCK! in fact ALL JIC SECTS CAN BE PUT IN THE SAME BAG ! EQUALLY GODLESS AND RABBIDS FOUNDED INDEED !" by Australia Mining Pioneer & Founder of the True Geology
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From: "Australia Mining Pioneer & Founder of the True Geology" <jpturc...@neuf.fr>
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 06:41:02 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues, Nov 10 2009 1:41 am
Subject: Re: Arselifters love stoning people. NOW ... Let There Be ROCK! in fact ALL JIC SECTS CAN BE PUT IN THE SAME BAG ! EQUALLY GODLESS AND RABBIDS FOUNDED INDEED !
Gutlessness of the so-called christian cowardly cunts (CCC) towards that Samaritan Rabbid Jews 'invented Islam is the cause of it all !
in any case the whole team of JIC ( judeo-islamo-christian) sects are all Jews invented : Present Mad Jews derived from the Rabbid Pharisees Present Mad Islamists derived from the Rabbid Samaritans Present Mad Xians derived from the Rabbid Zealots
WELLDONE INDEED ON ONLY AT THIS PRICE WILL YOU START TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THOSE JIC SECTS ARE ABOUT ...
...all the more since their views on the True History of Mankind & of our Universe are completely lunatic, demonstrating that there is not an ounce of wisdom in their alleged prophet nor any ounce of Divine Wisdom in their unending braying to walls or to idols
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Moslem cartoon character mohammed was a paedophile 6th century warlord and goat fucker who cooked up a false religion in order to supplement brutality as a means of bringing people (shitskin dunecoons) under subjection - Yaako Warrior from AUZ., NZ..., Korea., Germany, RSA, USA., Sweden, Hong Kong, Canada, Russia, China, Denmark, UK, .........., the slayer of fecal stained moslems
From: "Moslem cartoon character mohammed was a paedophile 6th century warlord and goat fucker who cooked up a false religion in order to supplement brutality as a means of bringing people (shitskin dunecoons) under subjection - Yaako Warrior from AUZ., NZ..., Korea., Germany, RSA, USA., Sweden, Hong Kong, Canada, Russia, China, Denmark, UK, .........., the slayer of fecal stained moslems" <"Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF >
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 10:30:45 -0500
Local: Tues, Nov 10 2009 2:30 am
Subject: Re: Arselifters love stoning people. NOW ... Let There Be ROCK!
> Al Nakba wrote: >> On Oct 25, 11:20 pm, "Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF" <""support >> \"@domainnames.com.au >> ."> >> wrote: >>> AC/DC songs and other music used as Guantanamo torture tool by US >>> government
>>> WHAT do Neil Diamond, AC/DC, Marilyn Manson, Eminem, Christina >>> Aguilera and Don >>> McLean have in common?
>>> They were all used as instruments of torture by the US government.
>>> Former Guantanamo guards and detainees have said that these big names >>> are among >>> 35 artists whose music was used as a means of torture at the >>> detention facility.
>>> Others on the list include Tupac Shakur, Pink, Bruce Springsteen and >>> The Bee >>> Gees. It is also alleged that the theme from Sesame Street was played >>> to unnerve >>> inmates.
>>> In reaction to the news, bands such as R.E.M. and Pearl Jam are >>> petitioning the >>> US Government to release a full list of music that has been used as a >>> means of >>> torture in US prisons and military detention centres, CNN reports.
>>> “We have spent the past 30 years supporting causes related to peace >>> and justice. >>> To now learn that some of our friends’ music may have been used as >>> part of the >>> torture tactics without their consent or knowledge is horrific,” >>> R.E.M. said in >>> a statement.
>>> “It's anti-American, period.”
>>> The National Security Archive, who has filed a Freedom of Information >>> request on >>> behalf of the artists, said they have approached several agencies >>> within the US >>> Department of Defence to find out the names of all the artists whose >>> music was used.
>>> Their request asks for the disclosure of documents “concerning the >>> use of loud >>> music during detention and/or as a technique to interrogate detainees at >>> US-operated prison facilities used in its War on Terror at >>> Guantanamo, Iraq and >>> Afghanistan during 2002-the present.”
>>> The Pentagon has not yet responded to allegations of torture >>> involving music, >>> however Joint Task Force Guantanamo spokeswoman Maj. Diana Haynie >>> says that loud >>> music has not been used at the detention centre since 2003.
>>> Former Guantanamo detainee Ruhal Ahmed, one of several who has filed >>> a lawsuit >>> against the US government, says that he was subjected to hours of >>> music abuse.
>>> “It's very scary to think that you might go crazy because of the >>> music, because >>> of the loud noise.”
>>> ==========================
>>> Its a long way to the top >>> if you want to waterboard!
>> surf's up! real torture would be being forced to hear mohammed al >> baikr and his port said orchestra..
> That arselifter shit would drive anyone insane!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, Hijack a plane, Hijack a ship, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!
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‹(•¿•)› ‹(•¿•)›moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks 이슬람의 성기를 빨아 당나귀 - الإسلام يأخذ الحمار القضيب في الشرج ‹(•¿•)› ‹(•¿•)›
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> >>>>>>> Yeah but another 911 has not happened. I hate > >>>>>>> torture but I don't know how to debate that fact... > >>>>>> Do you mean the attack didn't happen on the same day? > >>>>> Ok since 911 consisted of 4 hijackings by Muslim extremists let me > >>>>> rephrase that. In 8 years since the day after 911 there has never been > >>>>> a terrorist attack > >>>>> on American soil.
> >>>> I'll forgive your ignorance of muslime pig terrorism in the USA > >>>> because you live in AUS.
> >>>> However, muslime fucks HAVE committed at least three > >>>> acts of terrorism (and others have been thwarted) including:
> >>>> i. the Beltway Sniper killings > >>>> ii. the recent shooting of unarmed US soldiers at Fort Hood > >>>> iii. the imam shootout (I forget the location) > >>>> iv. the shooting of unarmed US Army recruiters > >>>> v. the shooting of Robert F. Kennedy by Sirhan-Sirhan
> >>>> all of the above committed by muslimes in the name of > >>>> allah, bumhamamd and pislam.
> >> As I said I meant on the scale of 911. But how many has the FBI > >> prevented?
> > And now, you've successfully debated your own words, > > by admitting that prevention in being alert and vigilant > > works better than any torture as you've insisted before.
> > In fact, torture can provoke the terrorist acts rather than > > preventing them - as well as to reduce trust in authority.... > > --
> And information under torture can't be taken seriously.
Wait until two thousand or so Australians are killed by islamopig terrorism and get back to me.
>> > And now, you've successfully debated your own words, >> > by admitting that prevention in being alert and vigilant >> > works better than any torture as you've insisted before.
>> > In fact, torture can provoke the terrorist acts rather than >> > preventing them - as well as to reduce trust in authority.... >> > --
>> And information under torture can't be taken seriously.
> Wait until two thousand or so Australians are killed > by islamopig terrorism and get back to me.
Well, if the pigs were doing the job of stopping and preventing the crime properly, instead of harassing innocent motorists by ticketing them for driving few miles over the speed limit, none of that would have happened, including the 911, sniping and shooting, kidnapping, and gang-banging behind the schools....
Becasue pigs are quite aware that torturing people is not only completely pointless in preventing crime, but it's a crime in itself. Therefore, pigs should lose their jobs, for torturing and beating up on people in violation of their Human Rights, and never allowed to live in the state, where they tortured their victims.....
regardless of how much they are torturing innocent people, -- _____________________________________________________
I intend to last long enough to put out of business all COck-suckers and other beneficiaries of the institutionalized slavery and genocide.
"The army that will defeat terrorism doesn't wear uniforms, or drive Humvees, or calls in air-strikes. It doesn't have a high command, or high security, or a high budget. The army that can defeat terrorism does battle quietly, clearing minefields and vaccinating children. It undermines military dictatorships and military lobbyists. It subverts sweatshops and special interests.Where people feel powerless, it helps them organize for change, and where people are powerful, it reminds them of their responsibility." ~~~~ Author Unknown ~~~~ ___________________________________________________ --
> >>> >>>> Ok when you tortured people like the 911 mastermind > >>> >>>> that was justified because it prevented more 911 attacks
> >>> >>> It did no such thing. > >>> >>> 1) He had already publicly admitted his involvement many times. > >>> >>> 2) Torture by the western allies just brings more people to the > >>> >>> cause.
> >>> >> Yeah but another 911 has not happened. I hate > >>> >> torture but I don't know how to debate that fact...
> >>> > Do you mean the attack didn't happen on the same day?
> >>> Ok since 911 consisted of 4 hijackings by Muslim extremists let me > >>> rephrase > >>> that. > >>> In 8 years since the day after 911 there has never been a terrorist > >>> attack > >>> on American soil.
> >> I'll forgive your ignorance of muslime pig terrorism in the USA > >> because > >> you're you live in AUS.
> >> However, muslime fucks HAVE committed at least three acts of terrorism > >> (and others have been thwarted) including:
> >> i. the Beltway Sniper killings > >> ii. the recent shooting of unarmed US soldiers at Fort Hood > >> iii. the imam shootout (I forget the location) > >> iv. the shooting of unarmed US Army recruiters
> > I can't argue with those facts but it is still true that there hasn't been > > a terrorist attack as terrible as 911.
> >> v. the shooting of Robert F. Kennedy by Sirhan-Sirhan
> > Where is the evidence this happened? If it wasn't for Sirhan-Sirhan we > > wouldn't know Dick Cheyney was willing to blow up boats and blame it on > > Iran. So please provide evidence.
> Oops I got this mixed up. I was thinking of this guy > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r29BtzfSz0o I'm sure BDK will quote me on > this later. I forgot to take out alt.conspiracy > But I will ask why you omitted the woman in the yellow dress and the people > who said "We killed him" after RFK was killed. Excuse the mix up. BDK > probably won't.
> >> all of the above committed by muslimes in the name of > >> allah, bumhamamd and pislam.
> >> Wake the fuck up.
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! You're excused, mostly because you cracked me up. A good laugh generates a lot of credit..
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BDK.. Leader of the nonexistent paid shills. Non Jew Jew Club founding member. Former number one Kook Magnet, title passed to Iarnrod.
> WHAT do Neil Diamond, AC/DC, Marilyn Manson, Eminem, Christina Aguilera and Don > McLean have in common?
> They were all used as instruments of torture by the US government.
> Former Guantanamo guards and detainees have said that these big names are among > 35 artists whose music was used as a means of torture at the detention facility.
> Others on the list include Tupac Shakur, Pink, Bruce Springsteen and The Bee > Gees. It is also alleged that the theme from Sesame Street was played to unnerve > inmates.
> In reaction to the news, bands such as R.E.M. and Pearl Jam are petitioning the > US Government to release a full list of music that has been used as a means of > torture in US prisons and military detention centres, CNN reports.
> “We have spent the past 30 years supporting causes related to peace and justice. > To now learn that some of our friends’ music may have been used as part of the > torture tactics without their consent or knowledge is horrific,” R.E.M. said in > a statement.
> “It's anti-American, period.”
> The National Security Archive, who has filed a Freedom of Information request on > behalf of the artists, said they have approached several agencies within the US > Department of Defence to find out the names of all the artists whose music was used.
> Their request asks for the disclosure of documents “concerning the use of loud > music during detention and/or as a technique to interrogate detainees at > US-operated prison facilities used in its War on Terror at Guantanamo, Iraq and > Afghanistan during 2002-the present.”
> The Pentagon has not yet responded to allegations of torture involving music, > however Joint Task Force Guantanamo spokeswoman Maj. Diana Haynie says that loud > music has not been used at the detention centre since 2003.
> Former Guantanamo detainee Ruhal Ahmed, one of several who has filed a lawsuit > against the US government, says that he was subjected to hours of music abuse.
> “It's very scary to think that you might go crazy because of the music, because > of the loud noise.”
> ==========================
> Its a long way to the top > if you want to waterboard!
> "The Labour Party is corrupt beyond redemption!" > - Labour hasbeen Mark Latham in a moment of honest clarity.
> "This is the recession we had to have!" > - Paul Keating explaining why he gave Australia another Labour recession.
> "Silly old bugger!" > - Well known ACTU pisspot and sometime Labour prime minister Bob Hawke > responding to a pensioner who dared ask for more.
> "By 1990, no child will live in poverty" > - Bob Hawke again, desperate to win another election.
> "A billion trees ..." > - Borke, pissed as a newt again.
> "Well may we say 'God save the Queen' because nothing will save the governor > general!" > - Egotistical shithead and pompous fuckwit E.G. Whitlam whining about his > appointee for Governor General John Kerr.
> "SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU DUMB CUNT!" > - FlangesBum on learning the truth about Labour's economic capabilities.
> "I don't care what you fuckers think!" > - KRudd the KRude at his finest again.
> "We'll just change it all when we get in." > - Garrett the carrott
I'd have used Korean television, played at peak volume. To anyone not used to it, the dissonance is maddening..
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