Yes, you do, every time. And since you're too much of a lying coward to address the issues I'm sure you will run away again.
DO you like it when we play your game of selectively modifying someone's post? No? Well fucking stop doing it yourself then you dishonest gutless turd.
As everyone can see, fags can't answer some very basic points that have blown away the same shit he's been babbling in here for months, so instead resorts to his trademark deceitful modifying of people's posts and hiding with his tail between his legs. Just so you all know this isn't just in this thread, this has been his 15 or more year history of usenet. Wonder if he'll bring in his anal invading mate to come defend him, usually happens when he gets blown out of the water. Lets see.....
fasgnadh wrote: > Hunter wrote: >> religion, or lack-therof, has no real bearing on how a country is run,
> Hampster claims that Atheist Nth Korea, which can't even feed it's > people, is no different to South Korea,
Just as you claim pedophilia is ok as long as you're a priest huh? Should be careful putting words into people's mouths fuckwit lest it come back to bite you.
> which has religious freedom > and PROSPERITY. B^D
We'll get back to North Korea, but first... Funny, why are you not commenting on Iran? How about Serbia? Or any of the other glorious religious bloodbaths that you love so much? Should they not by your flawed logic be the glowing torch of your claims being much more religious than Australia or most other countries??? Why aren't you living in one of those places? Oh that's right, you're AFRAID of very religious countries, you prove it by living here where we are free to believe or disbelieve anything we like!!! I mean that's the rule frauds like you go by isn't it?
Oh what? I'm sorry? Didn't quite catch that???
<fags whimpers as he runs away yet again from the point that the most religious of all societies are also the most horrible of all societies>
Give you a hint though Fags, one that obviously flew right over that tiny little brain of yours. Societies where religion, or lack of, are enforced are always going to be clusterfucks (North Korea, Serbia, Iran). Here we prove that, irregardless of religion or atheism, a country is fucked up if it tries to force you to believe one way.
Societies where the government says believe or disbelieve what you like and respect each other are always going to do better.
Fags on the other hand, being a moron, can not quite grasp this no matter how many times this most basic and obvious fact is given to him on a platter. Because he's a fucktard.
Someone who has more of a clue than fags pointing out that the higher the levels of religion in the developed world the higher the rates of crime, higher mortality rate, etc.etc.etc.
It appears we can conclude two things, if "belief" or lack thereof is forced upon you then the country is likely to turn to shit, it isn't about having religion, or not having a religion, it's just a sure-fire indicator that you are living in a repressive society and obviously it will not just be religion that is repressed it will be all facets of life, people will not be happy, people will not strive for excellence, the place will fall to shit. Fag's myth dispelled.
Secondly in societies where we are truly free to believe or dis-believe as we see fit (such as Australia) the rate of belief is slowly dropping, and it appears from the study linked above the more these beliefs are dropped the happier and healthier a society becomes. To compare two edges of the spectrum to each other lets look at Japan and the US. The US is ridden with crime, poverty and hatred. It is one of the most religious of those countries where people are allowed to choose their beliefs. Japan on the other hand is one of the least religious of these countries and has the least of these problems.
Writing's on the wall fags, you're just too much of a fuckwit to read it.
Discussion subject changed to "02 - FABIAN BAY TSUNAMI WARNING FOR THE 14TH OF OCTOBER NEXT .. 2 days left ! AUSTRALIA HAS NO EARLY TSUNAMI WARNING SYSTEM !!!... just be ready to move to high ground & save you most precious valuable : yours & your dear ones ' lives !" by Sunny
Subject: Re: 02 - FABIAN BAY TSUNAMI WARNING FOR THE 14TH OF OCTOBER NEXT .. 2 days left ! AUSTRALIA HAS NO EARLY TSUNAMI WARNING SYSTEM !!!... just be ready to move to high ground & save you most precious valuable : yours & your dear ones ' lives !
From: the man from havana <thehouseoftro...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 22:10:28 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Oct 17 2009 3:10 pm
Subject: Re: 02 - FABIAN BAY TSUNAMI WARNING FOR THE 14TH OF OCTOBER NEXT .. 2 days left ! AUSTRALIA HAS NO EARLY TSUNAMI WARNING SYSTEM !!!... just be ready to move to high ground & save you most precious valuable : yours & your dear ones ' lives !
Discussion subject changed to "I DECLARE THE FABIAN BAY OFFICIALLY OPENED AS FROM 14TH LAST... Congratulations to Mr Kanga !" by Greatest Mining Pioneer of Australia of all Times
Interesting to note how the Newmont / Newcrest , Boral & BHP Criminals' mole & Tyrwhitt Filth "s son, is becoming abusive to the point of foaming at the mouth in his hate of Australia Greatest Mining Pioneer of All Times !
Amusing indeed to remark, through that Antipodean Puke's dialectic, the worn out arguments served to me over the years !
May be that Mining Manure & their Political Protectors are fearing something & are trying to fend it offf ?
In any case, I address at this occasion my warmest Congratulations to Mr Kanga
Discussion subject changed to "Atheism Was Responsible For Crimes against Humanity: Tony Blair, George Bush, John Howard.......born-again wannabe Christian Genocidal Maniacs" by Judicial Corruption Australia
From: Judicial Corruption Australia <nwn.webmas...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 23:59:26 +1100
Local: Sat, Oct 17 2009 10:59 pm
Subject: Re: Atheism Was Responsible For Crimes against Humanity: Tony Blair, George Bush, John Howard.......born-again wannabe Christian Genocidal Maniacs
I believe that we have had this discussion previously:
1. There is NO doubt that the framers of the Constitution wanted to safeguard freedom, rule of law, justice and the will of the people. 2. Your "interpretation" is that the framers wanted it ALL for the Whiteman; I DO NOT DISAGREE.
My contention is that point 1 must be maintained whilst point 2 should be interpreted as "for better governance" s51(xxvi). Point 1 makes for civilised society whilst point 2, drives us back to savages; "for better governance" is another discretionary clause which can easily be abused (as in the NT intervention, i will get to later)
With due respect sir, your reading of the"intentions" of the framers of the Constitution is an anachronism: the Constitution by itself does NOT discriminate based on RACE in an adverse way.
If a referendum on multiculturalism (for argument sakes) were to take place, chances are the idiots would vote to get rid of it. But here is what would happen, the International Community would ostracise Australia, and the Chinese would buy mineral ore from South America, leaving Australia with dirt ! Where would the Lucky Country be without the global community.
Global Community means global laws: unlike the US, Australia has not only signed UN human rights treaties, ICCPR and ICERD, inter alia, they also signed up to the International Criminal Court's Rome Statutes. (Whiteman and treaty DONOT go together to well)
Has the Commonwealth of Australia done all this with the will of the Australian people, as in a referendum? Thats NOT my problem. Has the Commonwealth of Australia done all this in order to only help White Australia, through a referendum? Thats NOT my problem.
My ONLY concern is with the rule of law and justice:
After having signed the UN Human Rights Treaties, the Commonwealth enacted 2 local laws to implement the 2 treaties, namely
1. Race Discrimination Act 1975 2. Human Rights and Equal Opportunity Commission Act 1986; inter alia
The Art of Perverting Justice, & of Racism by White Australia: Documentary How the Australian judiciary and the Australian High Court conspire to pervert justice, dispense with the rule of law, and using the police to harass and victimise australians
Well you can say those laws discriminate based on race but is "discrimination" the correct term when the effect is positive.
Is the law discriminatory for the jewish "people" if it sends people to jail for denying the existence of the Holocaust?
You, sir, need to define the term "discriminate", if not "race".
We challenged the Senate Constitution and Legal Affairs Committee (chaired by Barnett and Crossin) to secede from the 2 UN Human Rights, and they have refused. They have NOT enacted any "discriminatory" laws, they just renamed the Human Rights and Equal Opportunity Commission Act 1986 to the Australian Human Rights Act 1986, with the intention of removing the "Equal Opportunity" part so that their corrupt commission and judges can apply the Act in an arbitrary way, ie sending people to jail for standing up for freedom of speech in denying the existence of the Holocaust.
The Commission and the Judges dont have discretionary powers at all, they must comply with the two UN Human Rights Treaties as enshrined "discriminatorily" by the 2+ local laws RDA1975 and HREOCA1986.
We are not interested in playing or participating in the Whiteman's game of "Judicial Bullshit" (TM) as you seem to be doing; what we ask is for the rule of law to upheld, and not having the legal goalpost continuously being moved !
M142 of 2007 Pham vs French & ors, is about a high court judge (Hayne J) running the case for an absent respondent; where in the Constitution does it say a judge can run a case for any persons before the court? ICCPR 14.1 enforces an independent and impartial judiciary. Not only that but Hayne J modified the Writ of Mandamus into a Writ of ceratori, without our authorisation. Where in Constitution, does it say a judge can modify the frame of reference of the court application?
The French we are talking about is none other than our current Chief Justice of the High Court, Robert Shenton French. Kevin Rudd knew about a Application for Mandamus against French J, and yet made him the Chief Justice. Where is the separation of powers of executive and judiciary as enshrine in the Constitution?
Australia's de facto Bill of Rights (HREOCA1986) under threat from a Corrupt, Racist White nation
The Racist Hypocrites are not enacting "discriminatory" laws, they are applying Human Rights laws discriminatorily based on which of their friends they can save.
eg. they slander the Indigenous people with child abuse (which occurs in all cultures), got their mates in the High Court to suspend the RDA1975 arbitrarily, enacted Marshall Law in the NT, just so they can set up Nuclear dumps.
Can you not see abuse of the Constitution without relying on an incorrect reading of the s51 (XXVI) ?
Look up case Pham vs COMCARE and read the decision of Senior Member John Handley, and see the abuse of the Evidence Act, in the AAT jurisdiction. John Handley abuses facts (fabricating facts, and evidence) so that Appeals cannot brought on facts (one of the worst case of conspiracy to pervert justice by the Australia Judiciary); we brought it on judicial bias which their corrupt judges including French decide to do extra-judicial fudging of the book.
Leave to Appeals is the worst abuse of discretionary powers in Australian Judicature, is it permissible in the Constitution; it will be tested in the High Court.
These judges are corrupt and useless; whenever they do not have legal responses they then install "deputy" registars and prothonotary to deal with questions of law (Gummow and Crennan, Byrne JJ); Does the Constitution allow these administrative officers to act as a judicial officers?
As a matter of fact: are Australian Judges even appointed legally by order of the Privy Council and the Queen, through your precious Constitution? If NOT then the Australian "judiciary" is acting extra-judicial and ultra vires (a term i have introduced to you, and glad to see you using).
Anyone charged with sedition or terrorism, should challenge the validity of the judges or just use a defense of Citizen's Arrest of corrupt judicial officers and government officials.
If i am incorrect about any of this, feel free to enlighten me: I will test it out in the court of law in case
VID 91/2009 Pham vs DEWR on the 26th October 2009 @ 10:00 am 6th Floor (?) Owen Dixon Commonwealth Law Courts Building 305 William Street Melbourne VIC 3000 Telephone (03) 8600 3333
This case was presented to the Senate Constitution and Legal Affairs and they decided to sweep it under the carpet; Inquiry into Australia’s Judicial System and the Role of Judges Inquiry into Access to Justice They haven't enacted any discriminatory laws, the Racist Hypocrites want their cake and eat it as well, by "acting" discriminatorily in excluding ethnics from having a say in those 2 INQUIRIES, in carrying out their duties as law makers for the "better governance" of Australia under the Constitution and the RAD1975 and HREOAC1986.
This case is once again from John Handley, Senior Member AAT, abusing discretionary powers which he doesnt have, abuse the Evidence Act, with the hope not to have an Appeals heard on facts, perverting justice and fabricating evidence, and of course apprehended bias.
Come see your Constitution in action and whether the Rule of Law is dead in Australia.
I read your reference to Pham v French and you comment about racism but what I found was; Pham v French & Ors [2008] HCATrans 3 (24 January 2008) QUOTE HIS HONOUR: The Racial Discrimination Act makes quite plain that racial discrimination is unlawful. END QUOTE .
It should be understood however that the federal Parliament has no powers to override the constitution and s.51(xxvi) specifically provides that the Commonwealth can enact special laws against any race and so can discriminate!
As such, in that regard also racism is constitutionally permissible (even so I oppose this personally) and any legislation purporting otherwise is ULTRA VIRES.
Hence, the federal parliament can enact any legislation against any specific race and is entitled to do so.
.
What however is the problem is that a special legislation against a race can only be discriminatory against that race subjected to this legislation and must be applied to all people of that race.
.
The 1967 referendum in regard of s.51(xxvi() was grossly deceptive in that it failed to inform electros and so also Aboriginals of the true meaning of this section and how it’s amended format could be used against Aboriginals.
.
As a CONSTITUTIONALIST I am well aware of the expressed intentions of the Framers of the Constitution’s intention that the Commonwealth is prohibited to enact any race legislation against the general community.
While the High court of Australia claimed that the Racial Discrimination Act is not enacted within s.51(xxvi) but within external powers the Framers of the Constitution made clear that any
...
Can't remember the last time an "atheist" got busted for pedophilia, seems they are 100% christian scum (mostly catholic)....they have been touching kids up for 2000 years...as one journalist put it when referring to the Catholic Clergy in Ireland she used the "endemic" when referring to the rampant pedophila in the church...seems that religion has produced the lowest form of filth on earth....not atheism
> >> religion, or lack-therof, has no real bearing on how a country is run,
> > Hampster claims that Atheist Nth Korea, which can't even feed it's > > people, is no different to South Korea,
> Just as you claim pedophilia is ok as long as you're a priest huh? > Should be careful putting words into people's mouths fuckwit lest it > come back to bite you.
> > which has religious freedom > > and PROSPERITY. B^D
> We'll get back to North Korea, but first... Funny, why are you not > commenting on Iran? How about Serbia? Or any of the other glorious > religious bloodbaths that you love so much? Should they not by your > flawed logic be the glowing torch of your claims being much more > religious than Australia or most other countries??? Why aren't you > living in one of those places? Oh that's right, you're AFRAID of very > religious countries, you prove it by living here where we are free to > believe or disbelieve anything we like!!! I mean that's the rule frauds > like you go by isn't it?
> Oh what? I'm sorry? Didn't quite catch that???
> <fags whimpers as he runs away yet again from the point that the most > religious of all societies are also the most horrible of all societies>
> Give you a hint though Fags, one that obviously flew right over that > tiny little brain of yours. Societies where religion, or lack of, are > enforced are always going to be clusterfucks (North Korea, Serbia, > Iran). Here we prove that, irregardless of religion or atheism, a > country is fucked up if it tries to force you to believe one way.
> Societies where the government says believe or disbelieve what you like > and respect each other are always going to do better.
> Fags on the other hand, being a moron, can not quite grasp this no > matter how many times this most basic and obvious fact is given to him > on a platter. Because he's a fucktard.
> Someone who has more of a clue than fags pointing out that the higher > the levels of religion in the developed world the higher the rates of > crime, higher mortality rate, etc.etc.etc.
> It appears we can conclude two things, if "belief" or lack thereof is > forced upon you then the country is likely to turn to shit, it isn't > about having religion, or not having a religion, it's just a sure-fire > indicator that you are living in a repressive society and obviously it > will not just be religion that is repressed it will be all facets of > life, people will not be happy, people will not strive for excellence, > the place will fall to shit. Fag's myth dispelled.
> Secondly in societies where we are truly free to believe or dis-believe > as we see fit (such as Australia) the rate of belief is slowly dropping, > and it appears from the study linked above the more these beliefs are > dropped the happier and healthier a society becomes. To compare two > edges of the spectrum to each other lets look at Japan and the US. The > US is ridden with crime, poverty and hatred. It is one of the most > religious of those countries where people are allowed to choose their > beliefs. Japan on the other hand is one of the least religious of these > countries and has the least of these problems.
> Writing's on the wall fags, you're just too much of a fuckwit to read it.
Discussion subject changed to "Atheism Was Responsible For Crimes against Humanity: Tony Blair, George Bush, John Howard.......born-again wannabe Christian Genocidal Maniacs" by Judicial Corruption Australia
From: Judicial Corruption Australia <nwn.webmas...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 08:11:59 +1100
Local: Fri, Oct 30 2009 8:11 am
Subject: Re: Atheism Was Responsible For Crimes against Humanity: Tony Blair, George Bush, John Howard.......born-again wannabe Christian Genocidal Maniacs
Playing the Whiteman's game of Judicial Bullshit: High Court Australia (French, Hayne, Gummow, Crennan), Senate Constitution and Legal Affairs Committee (Barnett and Crossin)
Dear Mr Gerrit H. Schorel-Hlavka,
I believe that we have had this discussion previously:
1. There is NO doubt that the framers of the Constitution wanted to safeguard freedom, rule of law, justice and the will of the people. 2. Your "interpretation" is that the framers wanted it ALL for the Whiteman; I DO NOT DISAGREE.
My contention is that point 1 must be maintained whilst point 2 should be interpreted as "for better governance" s51(xxvi). Point 1 makes for civilised society whilst point 2, drives us back to savages; "for better governance" is another discretionary clause which can easily be abused (as in the NT intervention, i will get to later)
With due respect sir, your reading of the"intentions" of the framers of the Constitution is an anachronism: the Constitution by itself does NOT discriminate based on RACE in an adverse way.
If a referendum on multiculturalism (for argument sakes) were to take place, chances are the idiots would vote to get rid of it. But here is what would happen, the International Community would ostracise Australia, and the Chinese would buy mineral ore from South America, leaving Australia with dirt ! Where would the Lucky Country be without the global community.
Global Community means global laws: unlike the US, Australia has not only signed UN human rights treaties, ICCPR and ICERD, inter alia, they also signed up to the International Criminal Court's Rome Statutes. (Whiteman and treaty DONOT go together to well)
Has the Commonwealth of Australia done all this with the will of the Australian people, as in a referendum? Thats NOT my problem. Has the Commonwealth of Australia done all this in order to only help White Australia, through a referendum? Thats NOT my problem.
My ONLY concern is with the rule of law and justice:
After having signed the UN Human Rights Treaties, the Commonwealth enacted 2 local laws to implement the 2 treaties, namely
1. Race Discrimination Act 1975 2. Human Rights and Equal Opportunity Commission Act 1986; inter alia
The Art of Perverting Justice, & of Racism by White Australia: Documentary How the Australian judiciary and the Australian High Court conspire to pervert justice, dispense with the rule of law, and using the police to harass and victimise australians
Well you can say those laws discriminate based on race but is "discrimination" the correct term when the effect is positive.
Is the law discriminatory for the jewish "people" if it sends people to jail for denying the existence of the Holocaust?
You, sir, need to define the term "discriminate", if not "race".
We challenged the Senate Constitution and Legal Affairs Committee (chaired by Barnett and Crossin) to secede from the 2 UN Human Rights, and they have refused. They have NOT enacted any "discriminatory" laws, they just renamed the Human Rights and Equal Opportunity Commission Act 1986 to the Australian Human Rights Act 1986, with the intention of removing the "Equal Opportunity" part so that their corrupt commission and judges can apply the Act in an arbitrary way, ie sending people to jail for standing up for freedom of speech in denying the existence of the Holocaust.
The Commission and the Judges dont have discretionary powers at all, they must comply with the two UN Human Rights Treaties as enshrined "discriminatorily" by the 2+ local laws RDA1975 and HREOCA1986.
We are not interested in playing or participating in the Whiteman's game of "Judicial Bullshit" (TM) as you seem to be doing; what we ask is for the rule of law to upheld, and not having the legal goalpost continuously being moved !
M142 of 2007 Pham vs French & ors, is about a high court judge (Hayne J) running the case for an absent respondent; where in the Constitution does it say a judge can run a case for any persons before the court? ICCPR 14.1 enforces an independent and impartial judiciary. Not only that but Hayne J modified the Writ of Mandamus into a Writ of ceratori, without our authorisation. Where in Constitution, does it say a judge can modify the frame of reference of the court application?
The French we are talking about is none other than our current Chief Justice of the High Court, Robert Shenton French. Kevin Rudd knew about a Application for Mandamus against French J, and yet made him the Chief Justice. Where is the separation of powers of executive and judiciary as enshrine in the Constitution?
Australia's de facto Bill of Rights (HREOCA1986) under threat from a Corrupt, Racist White nation
The Racist Hypocrites are not enacting "discriminatory" laws, they are applying Human Rights laws discriminatorily based on which of their friends they can save.
eg. they slander the Indigenous people with child abuse (which occurs in all cultures), got their mates in the High Court to suspend the RDA1975 arbitrarily, enacted Marshall Law in the NT, just so they can set up Nuclear dumps.
Can you not see abuse of the Constitution without relying on an incorrect reading of the s51 (XXVI) ?
Look up case Pham vs COMCARE and read the decision of Senior Member John Handley, and see the abuse of the Evidence Act, in the AAT jurisdiction. John Handley abuses facts (fabricating facts, and evidence) so that Appeals cannot brought on facts (one of the worst case of conspiracy to pervert justice by the Australia Judiciary); we brought it on judicial bias which their corrupt judges including French decide to do extra-judicial fudging of the book.
Leave to Appeals is the worst abuse of discretionary powers in Australian Judicature, is it permissible in the Constitution; it will be tested in the High Court.
These judges are corrupt and useless; whenever they do not have legal responses they then install "deputy" registars and prothonotary to deal with questions of law (Gummow and Crennan, Byrne JJ); Does the Constitution allow these administrative officers to act as a judicial officers?
As a matter of fact: are Australian Judges even appointed legally by order of the Privy Council and the Queen, through your precious Constitution? If NOT then the Australian "judiciary" is acting extra-judicial and ultra vires (a term i have introduced to you, and glad to see you using).
Anyone charged with sedition or terrorism, should challenge the validity of the judges or just use a defense of Citizen's Arrest of corrupt judicial officers and government officials.
If i am incorrect about any of this, feel free to enlighten me: I will test it out in the court of law in case
VID 91/2009 Pham vs DEWR on the 26th October 2009 @ 10:00 am 6th Floor (?) Owen Dixon Commonwealth Law Courts Building 305 William Street Melbourne VIC 3000 Telephone (03) 8600 3333
This case was presented to the Senate Constitution and Legal Affairs and they decided to sweep it under the carpet; Inquiry into Australia’s Judicial System and the Role of Judges Inquiry into Access to Justice They haven't enacted any discriminatory laws, the Racist Hypocrites want their cake and eat it as well, by "acting" discriminatorily in excluding ethnics from having a say in those 2 INQUIRIES, in carrying out their duties as law makers for the "better governance" of Australia under the Constitution and the RAD1975 and HREOAC1986.
This case is once again from John Handley, Senior Member AAT, abusing discretionary powers which he doesnt have, abuse the Evidence Act, with the hope not to have an Appeals heard on facts, perverting justice and fabricating evidence, and of course apprehended bias.
Come see your Constitution in action and whether the Rule of Law is dead in Australia.
I read your reference to Pham v French and you comment about racism but what I found was; Pham v French & Ors [2008] HCATrans 3 (24 January 2008) QUOTE HIS HONOUR: The Racial Discrimination Act makes quite plain that racial discrimination is unlawful. END QUOTE .
It should be understood however that the federal Parliament has no powers to override the constitution and s.51(xxvi) specifically provides that the Commonwealth can enact special laws against any race and so can discriminate!
As such, in that regard also racism is constitutionally permissible (even so I oppose this personally) and any legislation purporting otherwise is ULTRA VIRES.
Hence, the federal parliament can enact any legislation against any specific race and is entitled to do so.
.
What however is the problem is that a special legislation against a race can only be discriminatory against that race subjected to this legislation and must be applied to all people of that race.
.
The 1967 referendum in regard of s.51(xxvi() was grossly deceptive in that it failed to inform electros and so also Aboriginals of the true meaning of this section and how it’s amended format could be used against Aboriginals.
.
As a CONSTITUTIONALIST I am well aware of the expressed intentions of the Framers of the Constitution’s intention that the Commonwealth is prohibited to enact any race legislation against the general community.
In article <eWeGm.50724$ze1.42...@news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
"irongron" <irong...@virginbroadband.com.au> wrote: > Can't remember the last time an "atheist" got busted for pedophilia, seems > they are 100% christian scum (mostly catholic)....they have been touching > kids up for 2000 years...as one journalist put it when referring to the > Catholic Clergy in Ireland she used the "endemic" when referring to the > rampant pedophila in the church...seems that religion has produced the > lowest form of filth on earth....not atheism
* "[Australian] lobbyist Robbie Swan argues "It is now an established and obvious fact that the recently published Australian Pedophile and Sex Offender Index listed 'Clergy, Church and Religion related' as the largest identifiable group of offenders -- by almost twice the size of the next group." Court records since the publication of this references how the conviction of priests for child sex abuse is running at 4:1 to other occupations. This means that the church and religious orders in Australia could be producing up to approximately one-third of the nation's pedophiles. Warming to his argument, Swan points out "that if the same number of church-based pedophiles had come from the sex industry, a Parliamentary inquiry would have commenced years ago. The sex industry and the church both employ approximately 20,000 people in Australia. As it appears, the sex industry seems remarkable free of convicted pedophiles ... no prostitutes, X-Video producers or sex shop owners appeared on the Pedophile Index and none have been recorded in court records since."
--from "SCANDAL - the Priest and the Swan" Australian correspondent Joe Zemecki
> In article <eWeGm.50724$ze1.42...@news-server.bigpond.net.au>, > "irongron" <irong...@virginbroadband.com.au> wrote:
> > Can't remember the last time an "atheist" got busted for pedophilia, seems > > they are 100% christian scum (mostly catholic)....they have been touching > > kids up for 2000 years...as one journalist put it when referring to the > > Catholic Clergy in Ireland she used the "endemic" when referring to the > > rampant pedophila in the church...seems that religion has produced the > > lowest form of filth on earth....not atheism
> * > "[Australian] lobbyist Robbie Swan argues "It is now an established > and obvious fact that the recently published Australian Pedophile > and Sex Offender Index listed 'Clergy, Church and Religion related' > as the largest identifiable group of offenders -- by almost twice > the size of the next group." Court records since the publication > of this references how the conviction of priests for child sex > abuse is running at 4:1 to other occupations. This means that the > church and religious orders in Australia could be producing up to > approximately one-third of the nation's pedophiles. Warming to his > argument, Swan points out "that if the same number of church-based > pedophiles had come from the sex industry, a Parliamentary inquiry > would have commenced years ago. The sex industry and the church > both employ approximately 20,000 people in Australia. As it > appears, the sex industry seems remarkable free of convicted > pedophiles ... no prostitutes, X-Video producers or sex shop owners > appeared on the Pedophile Index and none have been recorded in > court records since."
> --from "SCANDAL - the Priest and the Swan" > Australian correspondent Joe Zemecki
Discussion subject changed to "Atheism Was Responsible For Crimes against Humanity: Tony Blair, George Bush, John Howard.......born-again wannabe Christian Genocidal Maniacs" by Judicial Corruption Australia
From: Judicial Corruption Australia <nwn.webmas...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:29:34 +1100
Local: Sun, Nov 8 2009 11:29 pm
Subject: Re: Atheism Was Responsible For Crimes against Humanity: Tony Blair, George Bush, John Howard.......born-again wannabe Christian Genocidal Maniacs
Playing the Whiteman's game of Judicial Bullshit: High Court Australia (French, Hayne, Gummow, Crennan), Senate Constitution and Legal Affairs Committee (Barnett and Crossin)
Dear Mr Gerrit H. Schorel-Hlavka,
I believe that we have had this discussion previously:
1. There is NO doubt that the framers of the Constitution wanted to safeguard freedom, rule of law, justice and the will of the people. 2. Your "interpretation" is that the framers wanted it ALL for the Whiteman; I DO NOT DISAGREE.
My contention is that point 1 must be maintained whilst point 2 should be interpreted as "for better governance" s51(xxvi). Point 1 makes for civilised society whilst point 2, drives us back to savages; "for better governance" is another discretionary clause which can easily be abused (as in the NT intervention, i will get to later)
With due respect sir, your reading of the"intentions" of the framers of the Constitution is an anachronism: the Constitution by itself does NOT discriminate based on RACE in an adverse way.
If a referendum on multiculturalism (for argument sakes) were to take place, chances are the idiots would vote to get rid of it. But here is what would happen, the International Community would ostracise Australia, and the Chinese would buy mineral ore from South America, leaving Australia with dirt ! Where would the Lucky Country be without the global community.
Global Community means global laws: unlike the US, Australia has not only signed UN human rights treaties, ICCPR and ICERD, inter alia, they also signed up to the International Criminal Court's Rome Statutes. (Whiteman and treaty DONOT go together to well)
Has the Commonwealth of Australia done all this with the will of the Australian people, as in a referendum? Thats NOT my problem. Has the Commonwealth of Australia done all this in order to only help White Australia, through a referendum? Thats NOT my problem.
My ONLY concern is with the rule of law and justice:
After having signed the UN Human Rights Treaties, the Commonwealth enacted 2 local laws to implement the 2 treaties, namely
1. Race Discrimination Act 1975 2. Human Rights and Equal Opportunity Commission Act 1986; inter alia
The Art of Perverting Justice, & of Racism by White Australia: Documentary How the Australian judiciary and the Australian High Court conspire to pervert justice, dispense with the rule of law, and using the police to harass and victimise australians
Well you can say those laws discriminate based on race but is "discrimination" the correct term when the effect is positive.
Is the law discriminatory for the jewish "people" if it sends people to jail for denying the existence of the Holocaust?
You, sir, need to define the term "discriminate", if not "race".
We challenged the Senate Constitution and Legal Affairs Committee (chaired by Barnett and Crossin) to secede from the 2 UN Human Rights, and they have refused. They have NOT enacted any "discriminatory" laws, they just renamed the Human Rights and Equal Opportunity Commission Act 1986 to the Australian Human Rights Act 1986, with the intention of removing the "Equal Opportunity" part so that their corrupt commission and judges can apply the Act in an arbitrary way, ie sending people to jail for standing up for freedom of speech in denying the existence of the Holocaust.
The Commission and the Judges dont have discretionary powers at all, they must comply with the two UN Human Rights Treaties as enshrined "discriminatorily" by the 2+ local laws RDA1975 and HREOCA1986.
We are not interested in playing or participating in the Whiteman's game of "Judicial Bullshit" (TM) as you seem to be doing; what we ask is for the rule of law to upheld, and not having the legal goalpost continuously being moved !
M142 of 2007 Pham vs French & ors, is about a high court judge (Hayne J) running the case for an absent respondent; where in the Constitution does it say a judge can run a case for any persons before the court? ICCPR 14.1 enforces an independent and impartial judiciary. Not only that but Hayne J modified the Writ of Mandamus into a Writ of ceratori, without our authorisation. Where in Constitution, does it say a judge can modify the frame of reference of the court application?
The French we are talking about is none other than our current Chief Justice of the High Court, Robert Shenton French. Kevin Rudd knew about a Application for Mandamus against French J, and yet made him the Chief Justice. Where is the separation of powers of executive and judiciary as enshrine in the Constitution?
Australia's de facto Bill of Rights (HREOCA1986) under threat from a Corrupt, Racist White nation
The Racist Hypocrites are not enacting "discriminatory" laws, they are applying Human Rights laws discriminatorily based on which of their friends they can save.
eg. they slander the Indigenous people with child abuse (which occurs in all cultures), got their mates in the High Court to suspend the RDA1975 arbitrarily, enacted Marshall Law in the NT, just so they can set up Nuclear dumps.
Can you not see abuse of the Constitution without relying on an incorrect reading of the s51 (XXVI) ?
Look up case Pham vs COMCARE and read the decision of Senior Member John Handley, and see the abuse of the Evidence Act, in the AAT jurisdiction. John Handley abuses facts (fabricating facts, and evidence) so that Appeals cannot brought on facts (one of the worst case of conspiracy to pervert justice by the Australia Judiciary); we brought it on judicial bias which their corrupt judges including French decide to do extra-judicial fudging of the book.
Leave to Appeals is the worst abuse of discretionary powers in Australian Judicature, is it permissible in the Constitution; it will be tested in the High Court.
These judges are corrupt and useless; whenever they do not have legal responses they then install "deputy" registars and prothonotary to deal with questions of law (Gummow and Crennan, Byrne JJ); Does the Constitution allow these administrative officers to act as a judicial officers?
As a matter of fact: are Australian Judges even appointed legally by order of the Privy Council and the Queen, through your precious Constitution? If NOT then the Australian "judiciary" is acting extra-judicial and ultra vires (a term i have introduced to you, and glad to see you using).
Anyone charged with sedition or terrorism, should challenge the validity of the judges or just use a defense of Citizen's Arrest of corrupt judicial officers and government officials.
If i am incorrect about any of this, feel free to enlighten me: I will test it out in the court of law in case
VID 91/2009 Pham vs DEWR on the 26th October 2009 @ 10:00 am 6th Floor (?) Owen Dixon Commonwealth Law Courts Building 305 William Street Melbourne VIC 3000 Telephone (03) 8600 3333
This case was presented to the Senate Constitution and Legal Affairs and they decided to sweep it under the carpet; Inquiry into Australia’s Judicial System and the Role of Judges Inquiry into Access to Justice They haven't enacted any discriminatory laws, the Racist Hypocrites want their cake and eat it as well, by "acting" discriminatorily in excluding ethnics from having a say in those 2 INQUIRIES, in carrying out their duties as law makers for the "better governance" of Australia under the Constitution and the RAD1975 and HREOAC1986.
This case is once again from John Handley, Senior Member AAT, abusing discretionary powers which he doesnt have, abuse the Evidence Act, with the hope not to have an Appeals heard on facts, perverting justice and fabricating evidence, and of course apprehended bias.
Come see your Constitution in action and whether the Rule of Law is dead in Australia.
I read your reference to Pham v French and you comment about racism but what I found was; Pham v French & Ors [2008] HCATrans 3 (24 January 2008) QUOTE HIS HONOUR: The Racial Discrimination Act makes quite plain that racial discrimination is unlawful. END QUOTE .
It should be understood however that the federal Parliament has no powers to override the constitution and s.51(xxvi) specifically provides that the Commonwealth can enact special laws against any race and so can discriminate!
As such, in that regard also racism is constitutionally permissible (even so I oppose this personally) and any legislation purporting otherwise is ULTRA VIRES.
Hence, the federal parliament can enact any legislation against any specific race and is entitled to do so.
.
What however is the problem is that a special legislation against a race can only be discriminatory against that race subjected to this legislation and must be applied to all people of that race.
.
The 1967 referendum in regard of s.51(xxvi() was grossly deceptive in that it failed to inform electros and so also Aboriginals of the true meaning of this section and how it’s amended format could be used against Aboriginals.
.
As a CONSTITUTIONALIST I am well aware of the expressed intentions of the Framers of the Constitution’s intention that the Commonwealth is prohibited to enact any race legislation against the general community.
Discussion subject changed to "THE ALLEGED SPANISH FLU OF 1918-1921 & ASIAN FLU OF 1958 PANDEMIES WERE IN FACT THE BLACK PLAGUE !" by Greatest Mining Pioneer of Australia of all Times
25 to 40 millions death in the world demonstrating that the Jenner / Pasteurian Criminals theories were & are complete fraud... and so the alleged preventive Vaccinations orchestrated by the WHO criminal organisation in Switzerland ...leading to immediate Guillain-Barré Syndrome in the quickest response of the organism ( an acute inflammatory demyelinating polyneuropathy (AIDP), an autoimmune disorder affecting the peripheral nervous system. GBS is a side- effect of influenza vaccines ) ... and in slower responses Myopathies of Duchêne, Alzheimer, Parkinson, M.Sclerosis & of course paralytic death
Of course the French & British Government did everything to hide the frauds of the most outstanding Holocaust Criminals in all History of Mankind : The Jenner / Pasteur antibiotic clueless fools , the first credited with the worse Tuberculosis Pandemy thanks to his Vaccine Turberculinis strain found in infected cow pustules pus & the other fool with the Lung Cancer & other types of cancers thanks to his abominable vaccine poisons ! Hence although millions were buried in both countries by Tumbrels fulls at night in common graves, nothing transpired except in Spain, which has not vested interest in supporting a most fraudulent science of alleged Medecine ! Of course the clueless Pollies are just doing what told to them by the greedy vaccine producing labs living out of Humanity beliefs that the causes of dizeazezz are germz, viruzez & eugenezzz ! Of course the Black Plagues of 1918 & 1958 demonstrate the fallacies of such Jenner / Pasteur theories, and this is why the real symptoms of the alleged Spanish & Asian Flu were carefully hidden. André Malraux, Minister of the French Republic died of the Black Plague indeed, a few weeks after being vaccinated with an alleged harmless Flu shot.
At the time of writing, only POLAND OF ALL NATIONS HAS THE COURAGE TO REFUSE TO BE PARTY IN THE MASSACRE OF HIS OWN POPULATION BY THE SEASONAL FLU SHOT WHICH UNKNOWN TO ALL CONTAINS THE 3 STRAINS : AVIAN SWINE& BLACK PLAGUE FLU RECOVERED IN CORPSES OF 1918 ABOVE THE POLAR CIRCLE !
HONOUR TO POLAND AN TO THE GREAT POLISH PEOPLE !!!
Q : What are the symptoms of the Black Plague ? A : Overwhelming cyanosis
Q : What happens when the victims die in terrible suffering A: The body become immediately black due to the hemorrhagic blood present under the whole body derm
Q : What is the immediate cure in less than 10 minutes, unknown by the Dizeaze Industry (DI) and tis lecherous bed-side mannered Quacks supporting that criminal Pharmacist/Chemist business ! A : Just find it out ! Note As a clue, as easy as the discovery of the Great Sandy Desert immense deposits... surely the noted Australian Mining & Political Criminals, especially that parliamentary filth sitting on the West Australia Parliament on their fucking arses will find out that answer in no time at all .. Just ask them or their official mining heroes for immediate answer !
With kindest regards to all
Note as a bonus under my signature will appears all the goodies the Criminals ' run Labs are putting in their shot, just to be sure the expected results are obtained
Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud Australia Mining Pioneer Discoverer & Legal Owner of Telfer Mine (Australia largest Copper & Gold Mine) Nifty (Cu) & Kintyre (U, Th) Mines, all in the Great Sandy Desert Exploration Geologist & Offshore Consultant Founder of the True Geology
~ Ignorance is the Cosmic Sin, the One Never Forgiven ~
CONNAISSEZ-VOUS LA SOUPE DU DIABLE ACTUELLEMENT ASSOCIEE AUX VACCINS ?
Ce qui suit est tellement gros qu’on a du mal à y croire.
- ALUMINIUM (adjuvant) : Responsable de dommages cérébraux, suspecté d'être la cause de la maladie d'Alzheimer, de certaines démences, de comas et d'attaques. Responsable également d'allergies cutanées. Lourdement impliqué dans la myofasciite à macrophages. - SULFATE D'AMMONIUM : Suspecté d'attaquer le foie, le système nerveux, le système gastro-intestinal et respiratoire. - BÊTA- PROPIOLACTONE : Connu pour ses propriétés cancérigènes, suspecté d'attaquer le foie, le système respiratoire et gastro- intestinal ainsi que la peau et les organes des sens. - LEVURES GENETIQUEMENT MODIFIEES (OGM !!!), - ADN BACTERIEN OU VIRAL D'ANIMAUX : Substances qui peuvent se combiner à l'ADN des vaccinés et entraîner des mutations génétiques inconnues. - LATEX : qui peut produire des réactions allergiques mettant en péril le pronostic vital - GLUTAMATE DE SODIUM : neurotoxique connu pour ses effets mutagènes, tératogènes, entraînant des malformations et monstruosités et des effets sur la descendance. Responsable d’allergies. - FORMALDEHYDE (formol) : Carcinogène, impliqué dans les leucémies, les cancers du cerveau, du colon, des organes lymphatiques; suspecté d'occasionner des problèmes gastro-intestinaux; poison violent pour le foie, le système immunitaire, le système nerveux, les organes de reproduction. - POLYSORBATE 80 : Connu pour causer des cancers chez les animaux. - TRI(N)BUTYLPHOSPHATE : Suspecté d'être un poison pour les reins et les nerfs. - GLUTARALDEHYDE : Poison, s'il est ingéré; responsable de malformations néonatales chez les animaux d'expérimentation - GELATINE : Produite à partir de certaines parties de la peau des veaux ainsi que des os de bovins déminéralisés et de peau de porcs. Responsable d'allergies. - GENTAMYCINE ET POLYMYXINE B : Antibiotiques toxiques pour les reins et le système nerveux; responsables d'allergies pouvant être mortelles. - MERCURE (conservateur) : Une substance des plus dangereuses, qui a une affinité pour le cerveau, le foie, l'intestin, la mœlle osseuse et les reins. D'infimes quantités peuvent causer des dommages graves au cerveau. Les multiples symptômes de l'intoxication au mercure sont connus y compris l’autisme. - NEOMYCINE : Antibiotique qui perturbe l'absorption de la vitamine B6. Réactions allergiques pouvant être mortelles. Toxique pour les reins et le système nerveux. - PHENOL / PHENOXYETHANOL : Utilisé comme antigel. Toxique capable de dérégler les réponses du système immunitaire. - BORATE DE SODIUM (Borax) : Mort aux rats ( !) contenu dans le très a la mode Gardasil.
CELLULES HUMAINES ET ANIMALES : tissus de foetus; albumine humaine, sang de porc, de cheval, de mouton; cervelle de lapin, de cobaye; reins de chien, coeur de boeuf, reins de singe, embryons de poulets, oeufs de poules et de canards, sérum de veau, etc.
Et puis il y a maintenant la cerise sur le gâteau avec la nanotechnologie « top secret » pouvant être utilisée pour programmer le cerveau…ou le déprogrammer. Surtout, soyez prudents ! N’en privez pas vos enfants !
Ref Michel Dogna avec d’autres informations d’importances sur un génocide vaccinal planifié. http://www.infomicheldogna.net/
Discussion subject changed to "Atheism Was Responsible For Crimes against Humanity: Tony Blair, George Bush, John Howard.......born-again wannabe Christian Genocidal Maniacs" by Judicial Corruption Australia
From: Judicial Corruption Australia <nwn.webmas...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:47:57 +1100
Local: Sun, Nov 8 2009 11:47 pm
Subject: Re: Atheism Was Responsible For Crimes against Humanity: Tony Blair, George Bush, John Howard.......born-again wannabe Christian Genocidal Maniacs
Playing the Whiteman's game of Judicial Bullshit: High Court Australia (French, Hayne, Gummow, Crennan), Senate Constitution and Legal Affairs Committee (Barnett and Crossin)
Dear Mr Gerrit H. Schorel-Hlavka,
I believe that we have had this discussion previously:
1. There is NO doubt that the framers of the Constitution wanted to safeguard freedom, rule of law, justice and the will of the people. 2. Your "interpretation" is that the framers wanted it ALL for the Whiteman; I DO NOT DISAGREE.
My contention is that point 1 must be maintained whilst point 2 should be interpreted as "for better governance" s51(xxvi). Point 1 makes for civilised society whilst point 2, drives us back to savages; "for better governance" is another discretionary clause which can easily be abused (as in the NT intervention, i will get to later)
With due respect sir, your reading of the"intentions" of the framers of the Constitution is an anachronism: the Constitution by itself does NOT discriminate based on RACE in an adverse way.
If a referendum on multiculturalism (for argument sakes) were to take place, chances are the idiots would vote to get rid of it. But here is what would happen, the International Community would ostracise Australia, and the Chinese would buy mineral ore from South America, leaving Australia with dirt ! Where would the Lucky Country be without the global community.
Global Community means global laws: unlike the US, Australia has not only signed UN human rights treaties, ICCPR and ICERD, inter alia, they also signed up to the International Criminal Court's Rome Statutes. (Whiteman and treaty DONOT go together to well)
Has the Commonwealth of Australia done all this with the will of the Australian people, as in a referendum? Thats NOT my problem. Has the Commonwealth of Australia done all this in order to only help White Australia, through a referendum? Thats NOT my problem.
My ONLY concern is with the rule of law and justice:
After having signed the UN Human Rights Treaties, the Commonwealth enacted 2 local laws to implement the 2 treaties, namely
1. Race Discrimination Act 1975 2. Human Rights and Equal Opportunity Commission Act 1986; inter alia
The Art of Perverting Justice, & of Racism by White Australia: Documentary How the Australian judiciary and the Australian High Court conspire to pervert justice, dispense with the rule of law, and using the police to harass and victimise australians
Well you can say those laws discriminate based on race but is "discrimination" the correct term when the effect is positive.
Is the law discriminatory for the jewish "people" if it sends people to jail for denying the existence of the Holocaust?
You, sir, need to define the term "discriminate", if not "race".
We challenged the Senate Constitution and Legal Affairs Committee (chaired by Barnett and Crossin) to secede from the 2 UN Human Rights, and they have refused. They have NOT enacted any "discriminatory" laws, they just renamed the Human Rights and Equal Opportunity Commission Act 1986 to the Australian Human Rights Act 1986, with the intention of removing the "Equal Opportunity" part so that their corrupt commission and judges can apply the Act in an arbitrary way, ie sending people to jail for standing up for freedom of speech in denying the existence of the Holocaust.
The Commission and the Judges dont have discretionary powers at all, they must comply with the two UN Human Rights Treaties as enshrined "discriminatorily" by the 2+ local laws RDA1975 and HREOCA1986.
We are not interested in playing or participating in the Whiteman's game of "Judicial Bullshit" (TM) as you seem to be doing; what we ask is for the rule of law to upheld, and not having the legal goalpost continuously being moved !
M142 of 2007 Pham vs French & ors, is about a high court judge (Hayne J) running the case for an absent respondent; where in the Constitution does it say a judge can run a case for any persons before the court? ICCPR 14.1 enforces an independent and impartial judiciary. Not only that but Hayne J modified the Writ of Mandamus into a Writ of ceratori, without our authorisation. Where in Constitution, does it say a judge can modify the frame of reference of the court application?
The French we are talking about is none other than our current Chief Justice of the High Court, Robert Shenton French. Kevin Rudd knew about a Application for Mandamus against French J, and yet made him the Chief Justice. Where is the separation of powers of executive and judiciary as enshrine in the Constitution?
Australia's de facto Bill of Rights (HREOCA1986) under threat from a Corrupt, Racist White nation
The Racist Hypocrites are not enacting "discriminatory" laws, they are applying Human Rights laws discriminatorily based on which of their friends they can save.
eg. they slander the Indigenous people with child abuse (which occurs in all cultures), got their mates in the High Court to suspend the RDA1975 arbitrarily, enacted Marshall Law in the NT, just so they can set up Nuclear dumps.
Can you not see abuse of the Constitution without relying on an incorrect reading of the s51 (XXVI) ?
Look up case Pham vs COMCARE and read the decision of Senior Member John Handley, and see the abuse of the Evidence Act, in the AAT jurisdiction. John Handley abuses facts (fabricating facts, and evidence) so that Appeals cannot brought on facts (one of the worst case of conspiracy to pervert justice by the Australia Judiciary); we brought it on judicial bias which their corrupt judges including French decide to do extra-judicial fudging of the book.
Leave to Appeals is the worst abuse of discretionary powers in Australian Judicature, is it permissible in the Constitution; it will be tested in the High Court.
These judges are corrupt and useless; whenever they do not have legal responses they then install "deputy" registars and prothonotary to deal with questions of law (Gummow and Crennan, Byrne JJ); Does the Constitution allow these administrative officers to act as a judicial officers?
As a matter of fact: are Australian Judges even appointed legally by order of the Privy Council and the Queen, through your precious Constitution? If NOT then the Australian "judiciary" is acting extra-judicial and ultra vires (a term i have introduced to you, and glad to see you using).
Anyone charged with sedition or terrorism, should challenge the validity of the judges or just use a defense of Citizen's Arrest of corrupt judicial officers and government officials.
If i am incorrect about any of this, feel free to enlighten me: I will test it out in the court of law in case
VID 91/2009 Pham vs DEWR on the 26th October 2009 @ 10:00 am 6th Floor (?) Owen Dixon Commonwealth Law Courts Building 305 William Street Melbourne VIC 3000 Telephone (03) 8600 3333
This case was presented to the Senate Constitution and Legal Affairs and they decided to sweep it under the carpet; Inquiry into Australia’s Judicial System and the Role of Judges Inquiry into Access to Justice They haven't enacted any discriminatory laws, the Racist Hypocrites want their cake and eat it as well, by "acting" discriminatorily in excluding ethnics from having a say in those 2 INQUIRIES, in carrying out their duties as law makers for the "better governance" of Australia under the Constitution and the RAD1975 and HREOAC1986.
This case is once again from John Handley, Senior Member AAT, abusing discretionary powers which he doesnt have, abuse the Evidence Act, with the hope not to have an Appeals heard on facts, perverting justice and fabricating evidence, and of course apprehended bias.
Come see your Constitution in action and whether the Rule of Law is dead in Australia.
I read your reference to Pham v French and you comment about racism but what I found was; Pham v French & Ors [2008] HCATrans 3 (24 January 2008) QUOTE HIS HONOUR: The Racial Discrimination Act makes quite plain that racial discrimination is unlawful. END QUOTE .
It should be understood however that the federal Parliament has no powers to override the constitution and s.51(xxvi) specifically provides that the Commonwealth can enact special laws against any race and so can discriminate!
As such, in that regard also racism is constitutionally permissible (even so I oppose this personally) and any legislation purporting otherwise is ULTRA VIRES.
Hence, the federal parliament can enact any legislation against any specific race and is entitled to do so.
.
What however is the problem is that a special legislation against a race can only be discriminatory against that race subjected to this legislation and must be applied to all people of that race.
.
The 1967 referendum in regard of s.51(xxvi() was grossly deceptive in that it failed to inform electros and so also Aboriginals of the true meaning of this section and how it’s amended format could be used against Aboriginals.
.
As a CONSTITUTIONALIST I am well aware of the expressed intentions of the Framers of the Constitution’s intention that the Commonwealth is prohibited to enact any race legislation against the general community.
In our last episode, <796a966c-d721-45ec-997b-274cc0071...@w19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>, the lovely and talented Greatest Mining Pioneer of Australia of all Times broadcast on alt.atheism:
> 25 to 40 millions death in the world demonstrating that the Jenner /
Oh great. It's kooky with extra kook sauce on the side.
-- Lars Eighner <http://larseighner.com/> September 5913, 1993 291 days since Rick Warren prayed over Bush's third term. Obama: No hope, no change, more of the same. Yes, he can, but no, he won't.
On Nov 8, 3:12 pm, Lars Eighner <use...@larseighner.com> wrote:
> In our last episode, > <796a966c-d721-45ec-997b-274cc0071...@w19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>, the > lovely and talented Greatest Mining Pioneer of Australia of all Times > broadcast on alt.atheism:
> > 25 to 40 millions death in the world demonstrating that the Jenner /
> Oh great. It's kooky with extra kook sauce on the side.
> -- > Lars Eighner <http://larseighner.com/> September 5913, 1993 > 291 days since Rick Warren prayed over Bush's third term. > Obama: No hope, no change, more of the same. Yes, he can, but no, he won't.
Lars Eighner wrote: > In our last episode, > <796a966c-d721-45ec-997b-274cc0071...@w19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>, > the lovely and talented Greatest Mining Pioneer of Australia of all > Times broadcast on alt.atheism:
>> 25 to 40 millions death in the world demonstrating that the Jenner /
> Oh great. It's kooky with extra kook sauce on the side.
It's the same kook who predicted that a huge tsunami would flood a large part of Australia on October 24th (or was it the 14th, these kooks get me confused). As nothing out of the ordinary appears to have happened on either of those two days, I'm just LMAO at him.
-- Smiler The godless one a.a.# 2279 All gods are bespoke. They're all made to perfectly fit the prejudices of their believer
On Nov 9, 3:46 am, "Smiler" <Smi...@joe.king.com> wrote:
(snip clueless rant for decency 's sake)
Just postponed for reasons independent of my will, but still on the planning board ! Now regarding the Black Plague of 1918 - 1921, you must note that as I said, there is a 10 min immediate cure ....but that 's too good for you Bastards !
Just postponed for reasons independent of my will, but still on the planning board ! Now regarding the Black Plague of 1918 - 1921, you must note that as I said, there is a 10 min immediate cure
You are slipping Turdarse, you claimed "immediate remission"
#### More Turcaud speak (25 Sep 05) : Do you know how long it takes to cure Tetanus in final phase i.e. when the person is in inverted spring position & ready to die from asphyxia ? Answer : One second flat ! . and with the Quacks 's allopathic sects, worshippers of Jenner & Pasteur ? Answer : End of the road ! Polio ? Damned easy and no drug taken either ! 2 days and it 's over. Diphtheria, Tuberculosis, Small Pox, Plagues bubonic or black, Leprosy etc ... immediate remission !
26 Sep 05 (Turd speak) : Re enema again, I personally do this every full moon and continue by a 3 days fast. When fasting long period, say up to 40 days, like I did in the desert by ex, enema have to be taken every day.
Greatest Mining Pioneer of Australia of all Times wrote:
> On Nov 9, 3:46 am, "Smiler" <Smi...@joe.king.com> wrote:
<snippage replaced for context and accuracy>
>> It's the same kook who predicted that a huge tsunami would flood a large >> part of Australia on October 24th (or was it the 14th, these kooks get me >> confused). As nothing out of the ordinary appears to have happened on >> either >> of those two days, I'm just LMAO at him.
> Just postponed for reasons independent of my will, but still on the > planning board !
Yeah suuuuure, moron. If I didn't believe you before, what makes you think (and I use that word losely in your case) that I'd believe you now? It's just more reason to laugh at your idiocy.
Have you no shame or are you proud of your ignorance, or both?
-- Smiler The godless one a.a.# 2279 All gods are bespoke. They're all made to perfectly fit the prejudices of their believer
Discussion subject changed to "Atheism Was Responsible For Crimes against Humanity: Tony Blair, George Bush, John Howard.......born-again wannabe Christian Genocidal Maniacs" by Judicial Corruption Australia
From: Judicial Corruption Australia <nwn.webmas...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 01:39:19 +1100
Local: Mon, Nov 23 2009 1:39 am
Subject: Re: Atheism Was Responsible For Crimes against Humanity: Tony Blair, George Bush, John Howard.......born-again wannabe Christian Genocidal Maniacs
Playing the Whiteman's game of Judicial Bullshit: High Court Australia (French, Hayne, Gummow, Crennan), Senate Constitution and Legal Affairs Committee (Barnett and Crossin)
Dear Mr Gerrit H. Schorel-Hlavka,
I believe that we have had this discussion previously:
1. There is NO doubt that the framers of the Constitution wanted to safeguard freedom, rule of law, justice and the will of the people. 2. Your "interpretation" is that the framers wanted it ALL for the Whiteman; I DO NOT DISAGREE.
My contention is that point 1 must be maintained whilst point 2 should be interpreted as "for better governance" s51(xxvi). Point 1 makes for civilised society whilst point 2, drives us back to savages; "for better governance" is another discretionary clause which can easily be abused (as in the NT intervention, i will get to later)
With due respect sir, your reading of the"intentions" of the framers of the Constitution is an anachronism: the Constitution by itself does NOT discriminate based on RACE in an adverse way.
If a referendum on multiculturalism (for argument sakes) were to take place, chances are the idiots would vote to get rid of it. But here is what would happen, the International Community would ostracise Australia, and the Chinese would buy mineral ore from South America, leaving Australia with dirt ! Where would the Lucky Country be without the global community.
Global Community means global laws: unlike the US, Australia has not only signed UN human rights treaties, ICCPR and ICERD, inter alia, they also signed up to the International Criminal Court's Rome Statutes. (Whiteman and treaty DONOT go together to well)
Has the Commonwealth of Australia done all this with the will of the Australian people, as in a referendum? Thats NOT my problem. Has the Commonwealth of Australia done all this in order to only help White Australia, through a referendum? Thats NOT my problem.
My ONLY concern is with the rule of law and justice:
After having signed the UN Human Rights Treaties, the Commonwealth enacted 2 local laws to implement the 2 treaties, namely
1. Race Discrimination Act 1975 2. Human Rights and Equal Opportunity Commission Act 1986; inter alia
The Art of Perverting Justice, & of Racism by White Australia: Documentary How the Australian judiciary and the Australian High Court conspire to pervert justice, dispense with the rule of law, and using the police to harass and victimise australians
Well you can say those laws discriminate based on race but is "discrimination" the correct term when the effect is positive.
Is the law discriminatory for the jewish "people" if it sends people to jail for denying the existence of the Holocaust?
You, sir, need to define the term "discriminate", if not "race".
We challenged the Senate Constitution and Legal Affairs Committee (chaired by Barnett and Crossin) to secede from the 2 UN Human Rights, and they have refused. They have NOT enacted any "discriminatory" laws, they just renamed the Human Rights and Equal Opportunity Commission Act 1986 to the Australian Human Rights Act 1986, with the intention of removing the "Equal Opportunity" part so that their corrupt commission and judges can apply the Act in an arbitrary way, ie sending people to jail for standing up for freedom of speech in denying the existence of the Holocaust.
The Commission and the Judges dont have discretionary powers at all, they must comply with the two UN Human Rights Treaties as enshrined "discriminatorily" by the 2+ local laws RDA1975 and HREOCA1986.
We are not interested in playing or participating in the Whiteman's game of "Judicial Bullshit" (TM) as you seem to be doing; what we ask is for the rule of law to upheld, and not having the legal goalpost continuously being moved !
M142 of 2007 Pham vs French & ors, is about a high court judge (Hayne J) running the case for an absent respondent; where in the Constitution does it say a judge can run a case for any persons before the court? ICCPR 14.1 enforces an independent and impartial judiciary. Not only that but Hayne J modified the Writ of Mandamus into a Writ of ceratori, without our authorisation. Where in Constitution, does it say a judge can modify the frame of reference of the court application?
The French we are talking about is none other than our current Chief Justice of the High Court, Robert Shenton French. Kevin Rudd knew about a Application for Mandamus against French J, and yet made him the Chief Justice. Where is the separation of powers of executive and judiciary as enshrine in the Constitution?
Australia's de facto Bill of Rights (HREOCA1986) under threat from a Corrupt, Racist White nation
The Racist Hypocrites are not enacting "discriminatory" laws, they are applying Human Rights laws discriminatorily based on which of their friends they can save.
eg. they slander the Indigenous people with child abuse (which occurs in all cultures), got their mates in the High Court to suspend the RDA1975 arbitrarily, enacted Marshall Law in the NT, just so they can set up Nuclear dumps.
Can you not see abuse of the Constitution without relying on an incorrect reading of the s51 (XXVI) ?
Look up case Pham vs COMCARE and read the decision of Senior Member John Handley, and see the abuse of the Evidence Act, in the AAT jurisdiction. John Handley abuses facts (fabricating facts, and evidence) so that Appeals cannot brought on facts (one of the worst case of conspiracy to pervert justice by the Australia Judiciary); we brought it on judicial bias which their corrupt judges including French decide to do extra-judicial fudging of the book.
Leave to Appeals is the worst abuse of discretionary powers in Australian Judicature, is it permissible in the Constitution; it will be tested in the High Court.
These judges are corrupt and useless; whenever they do not have legal responses they then install "deputy" registars and prothonotary to deal with questions of law (Gummow and Crennan, Byrne JJ); Does the Constitution allow these administrative officers to act as a judicial officers?
As a matter of fact: are Australian Judges even appointed legally by order of the Privy Council and the Queen, through your precious Constitution? If NOT then the Australian "judiciary" is acting extra-judicial and ultra vires (a term i have introduced to you, and glad to see you using).
Anyone charged with sedition or terrorism, should challenge the validity of the judges or just use a defense of Citizen's Arrest of corrupt judicial officers and government officials.
If i am incorrect about any of this, feel free to enlighten me: I will test it out in the court of law in case
VID 91/2009 Pham vs DEWR on the 26th October 2009 @ 10:00 am 6th Floor (?) Owen Dixon Commonwealth Law Courts Building 305 William Street Melbourne VIC 3000 Telephone (03) 8600 3333
This case was presented to the Senate Constitution and Legal Affairs and they decided to sweep it under the carpet; Inquiry into Australia’s Judicial System and the Role of Judges Inquiry into Access to Justice They haven't enacted any discriminatory laws, the Racist Hypocrites want their cake and eat it as well, by "acting" discriminatorily in excluding ethnics from having a say in those 2 INQUIRIES, in carrying out their duties as law makers for the "better governance" of Australia under the Constitution and the RAD1975 and HREOAC1986.
This case is once again from John Handley, Senior Member AAT, abusing discretionary powers which he doesnt have, abuse the Evidence Act, with the hope not to have an Appeals heard on facts, perverting justice and fabricating evidence, and of course apprehended bias.
Come see your Constitution in action and whether the Rule of Law is dead in Australia.
I read your reference to Pham v French and you comment about racism but what I found was; Pham v French & Ors [2008] HCATrans 3 (24 January 2008) QUOTE HIS HONOUR: The Racial Discrimination Act makes quite plain that racial discrimination is unlawful. END QUOTE .
It should be understood however that the federal Parliament has no powers to override the constitution and s.51(xxvi) specifically provides that the Commonwealth can enact special laws against any race and so can discriminate!
As such, in that regard also racism is constitutionally permissible (even so I oppose this personally) and any legislation purporting otherwise is ULTRA VIRES.
Hence, the federal parliament can enact any legislation against any specific race and is entitled to do so.
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What however is the problem is that a special legislation against a race can only be discriminatory against that race subjected to this legislation and must be applied to all people of that race.
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The 1967 referendum in regard of s.51(xxvi() was grossly deceptive in that it failed to inform electros and so also Aboriginals of the true meaning of this section and how it’s amended format could be used against Aboriginals.
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As a CONSTITUTIONALIST I am well aware of the expressed intentions of the Framers of the Constitution’s intention that the Commonwealth is prohibited to enact any race legislation against the general community.