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VoteFromTheRooftops  
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 More options Dec 7 2005, 11:33 pm
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From: "VoteFromTheRooftops" <sbdbom...@gmail.com>
Date: 7 Dec 2005 04:33:12 -0800
Local: Wed, Dec 7 2005 11:33 pm
Subject: WHITE POWER!
lets hope these filthy lebs get whats comming to them!

on sunday every white person in the area that still gives a shit about
this country will meet at cronulla beach to beat the living shit out of
any muslim/arab in sight.

lets hope this spreads to the rest of the country until this filth is
eradicated!

25,000 are expected to turn up, including sydneys biggest bike gang and
stormfront.


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1MAN4ALL  
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 More options Dec 7 2005, 11:38 pm
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From: "1MAN4ALL" <forah...@hotmail.com>
Date: 7 Dec 2005 04:38:08 -0800
Local: Wed, Dec 7 2005 11:38 pm
Subject: Re: WHITE POWER!

VoteFromTheRooftops wrote:
> lets hope these filthy lebs get whats comming to them!

> on sunday every white person in the area that still gives a shit about
> this country will meet at cronulla beach to beat the living shit out of
> any muslim/arab in sight.

> lets hope this spreads to the rest of the country until this filth is
> eradicated!

> 25,000 are expected to turn up, including sydneys biggest bike gang and
> stormfront.

BRING IT ON !!!

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Abdul-Khinzeer Kalbullaah al-Murtad Shabazz  
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From: "Abdul-Khinzeer Kalbullaah al-Murtad Shabazz" <abukh...@yahoo.com>
Date: 7 Dec 2005 13:29:20 -0800
Local: Thurs, Dec 8 2005 8:29 am
Subject: Re: WHITE POWER!

VoteFromTheRooftops wrote:
> lets hope these filthy lebs get whats comming to them!

Could you explain to me what "leb" refers to?

> on sunday every white person in the area that still gives a shit about
> this country will meet at cronulla beach to beat the living shit out of
> any muslim/arab in sight.

And what would be the reason for this? And assuming this is true, are
the people are who are this angry even able to distinguish between
Muslims and non-Muslims, Arabs and non-Arabs? Not that it matters, but
I'm curious with regard to how you answer this question.

> 25,000 are expected to turn up, including sydneys biggest bike gang and
> stormfront.

Whatever the hell that means. Why do I get the feeling "Sydney's
biggest bike gang" will go charging after some lone Sikh, only to be
run off after he whips out his kirpan and runs at them yelling
something like "ek onkar!" or "wahe guruji ka khalsa wahe guruji ki
fateh!"

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VoteFromTheRooftops  
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 More options Dec 8 2005, 8:42 am
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From: "VoteFromTheRooftops" <sbdbom...@gmail.com>
Date: 7 Dec 2005 13:42:07 -0800
Local: Thurs, Dec 8 2005 8:42 am
Subject: Re: WHITE POWER!
leb = a slime bag with a name like yours, that comes from lebanon
lebs are scum, shit, filth, slime, feces and will be destroyed

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kangarooistan  
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 More options Dec 8 2005, 8:45 am
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From: "kangarooistan" <theold...@kangarooistan.com.au>
Date: 7 Dec 2005 13:45:23 -0800
Local: Thurs, Dec 8 2005 8:45 am
Subject: Re: WHITE POWER!
YES  LETS  ROUND  UP  THE FILTHY  WHITE  TRASH  AND  SEND  THEM  BACK
WHERE THEY  CAME  FROM,

WE  MUST  CLEAN AUSTRALIA UP AND THESE WHITE RACIST VIOLENT hoWARd
supporters CAN BE IDENTIFIED AND DEPORTED IN ONE GO, PERHAPS ON A
LEAKY BOAT

GUTLESS COWARDS , SEE HOW  MANY  TURN UP

THEY  SNEAK AROUND ON THE NET  BUT WONT SHOW THEIR FACES IN PUBLIC

theoldman   from   kangarooistan


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 More options Dec 8 2005, 9:08 am
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From: "Sunny" <wombatho...@yahoo.com.au>
Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2005 22:08:01 GMT
Local: Thurs, Dec 8 2005 9:08 am
Subject: Re: WHITE POWER!

"kangarooistan" <theold...@kangarooistan.com.au> wrote in message >

THEY  SNEAK AROUND ON THE NET  BUT WONT SHOW THEIR FACES IN PUBLIC

OK, you go first, post a self portrait etc.


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Sayid Abu Khamr al-Murtad (Abdul-Khinzeer al-Mushrik)  
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 More options Dec 8 2005, 9:30 am
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From: "Sayid Abu Khamr al-Murtad (Abdul-Khinzeer al-Mushrik)" <abukh...@yahoo.com>
Date: 7 Dec 2005 14:30:46 -0800
Local: Thurs, Dec 8 2005 9:30 am
Subject: Re: WHITE POWER!

VoteFromTheRooftops wrote:
> leb = a slime bag with a name like yours, that comes from lebanon

I'm confident that there is no one from Lebanon with a name like mine.

> lebs are scum, shit, filth, slime, feces and will be destroyed

Why is it that all Lebanese are these various things? And why do they
need to be destroyed?

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From: "VoteFromTheRooftops" <sbdbom...@gmail.com>
Date: 7 Dec 2005 18:49:03 -0800
Local: Thurs, Dec 8 2005 1:49 pm
Subject: Re: WHITE POWER!
kangarooistan, keep talking shit, you will see on sunday.

sayid, we dont hate you, unless your in our country.

lebanese gang rape, steal, murder etc at a rate of 30x the general
population.
people have had enough of these gutless fags


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Chris McDonald  
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 More options Dec 8 2005, 1:55 pm
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From: Chris McDonald <ch...@csse.uwa.edu.au>
Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 02:55:17 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Thurs, Dec 8 2005 1:55 pm
Subject: Re: WHITE POWER!

Not being from near Sydney, is this thread related to this article:

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200512/s1526343.htm        ?

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Rifty  
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 More options Dec 8 2005, 2:14 pm
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From: ri...@tpg.com.au (Rifty)
Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 14:14:35 +1100
Local: Thurs, Dec 8 2005 2:14 pm
Subject: Re: WHITE POWER!
Sayid Abu Khamr al-Murtad (Abdul-Khinzeer al-Mushrik)

<abukh...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> VoteFromTheRooftops wrote:
> > leb = a slime bag with a name like yours, that comes from lebanon

> I'm confident that there is no one from Lebanon with a name like mine.

You could spend a week trying to explain why, but he would still come up
with the same abuse. He could be a Bulldogs supporter and still want to
see Hazem el-Mazri dead because of his name.

> > lebs are scum, shit, filth, slime, feces and will be destroyed

> Why is it that all Lebanese are these various things? And why do they
> need to be destroyed?

He wants them destroyed because he can't cope with the idea that the
world has changed. His solution is to try to make it worse. His cunning
plan (cf. Baldrick) is to incite violence on as large a scale as
possible to attract ignorant converts to his Nazi fetish.

Rifty
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1MAN4ALL  
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 More options Dec 8 2005, 3:18 pm
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From: "1MAN4ALL" <forah...@hotmail.com>
Date: 7 Dec 2005 20:18:46 -0800
Local: Thurs, Dec 8 2005 3:18 pm
Subject: Re: WHITE POWER!

Abdul-Khinzeer Kalbullaah al-Murtad Shabazz wrote:

> VoteFromTheRooftops wrote:
> > lets hope these filthy lebs get whats comming to them!

> Could you explain to me what "leb" refers to?

> > on sunday every white person in the area that still gives a shit about
> > this country will meet at cronulla beach to beat the living shit out of
> > any muslim/arab in sight.

> And what would be the reason for this? And assuming this is true, are
> the people are who are this angry even able to distinguish between
> Muslims and non-Muslims, Arabs and non-Arabs? Not that it matters, but
> I'm curious with regard to how you answer this question.

Stupid idiot VoteFromTheRooftops doesn't realize that MODERATE white
supremacy is so much better---perfectly legitimate and more lasting!
White people in partnership with token Blacks, Hispanics and Arab
allies can rule the planet indefinitely! Instead of driving them out,
let's find more Thomases, Powells, Condies, Gonzalezes, King Abdullahs
and Gulf Sheiks to serve the interests of white Conservatives in the
US, UK and Australia. The ONLY way to legitimize Anglo-American
hegemony over the world is to continually put forward people of color
as representatives. Through winks and nods the majority in the three
English speaking countries understand what has to be done. It's people
like VoteFromTheRooftops who mess things up.

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fyfp...@gmail.com  
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From: fyfp...@gmail.com
Date: 7 Dec 2005 20:35:22 -0800
Local: Thurs, Dec 8 2005 3:35 pm
Subject: Re: WHITE POWER!
Please report back after Sunday.  I am very interested in this kind of
news.

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 More options Dec 8 2005, 10:07 pm
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From: royh...@yahoo.com
Date: 8 Dec 2005 03:07:58 -0800
Local: Thurs, Dec 8 2005 10:07 pm
Subject: Re: WHITE POWER!

VoteFromTheRooftops wrote:
> lets hope these filthy lebs get whats comming to them!

> on sunday every white person in the area that still gives a shit about
> this country will meet at cronulla beach to beat the living shit out of
> any muslim/arab in sight.

> lets hope this spreads to the rest of the country until this filth is
> eradicated!

> 25,000 are expected to turn up, including sydneys biggest bike gang and
> stormfront.

Why is it that despite what the Jewish community have been facing all
these years at the hands of Jihadi vigilantes, no one noticed.  But
when scenes like Cronulla and Paris erupt where non-Jews are also
attacked then media takes notice.

This goes to show that the idiotic conspiracy-theory that Jews own the
media is completely and utterly DEBUNKED.


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Mike  
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 More options Dec 8 2005, 10:17 pm
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From: "Mike" <mickdrisc...@gmail.com>
Date: 8 Dec 2005 03:17:46 -0800
Local: Thurs, Dec 8 2005 10:17 pm
Subject: Re: WHITE POWER!
where does votefromtherooftops pull his statistics from? murder and
rape at a rate 30% the general public? which mind you includes many
other 'non whites' so what is your idea of the general public? and i
also presume that such statistics even if true become invalid if i pull
something out like white australians (or should i say general public?)
murder and steal  27.643% more than africans living in australia.

do you belong to any religous group by the way? christian? buddist?


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royh...@yahoo.com  
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 More options Dec 8 2005, 10:43 pm
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From: royh...@yahoo.com
Date: 8 Dec 2005 03:43:02 -0800
Local: Thurs, Dec 8 2005 10:43 pm
Subject: Re: WHITE POWER!

Sayid Abu Khamr al-Murtad (Abdul-Khinzeer al-Mushrik) wrote:

> VoteFromTheRooftops wrote:
> > leb = a slime bag with a name like yours, that comes from lebanon

> I'm confident that there is no one from Lebanon with a name like mine.

Some apostates with humor might like to adopt that name.

> > lebs are scum, shit, filth, slime, feces and will be destroyed

> Why is it that all Lebanese are these various things? And why do they
> need to be destroyed?

Certain Sunni Shafiite Arabic speaking northern Lebanese.

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Richard Dell  
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 More options Dec 8 2005, 11:46 pm
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From: "Richard Dell" <rfd...@hotmail.com>
Date: 8 Dec 2005 04:46:46 -0800
Local: Thurs, Dec 8 2005 11:46 pm
Subject: Re: WHITE POWER!
"1MAN4ALL" <forah...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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|
| Abdul-Khinzeer Kalbullaah al-Murtad Shabazz wrote:
| > VoteFromTheRooftops wrote:

| > > lets hope these filthy lebs get whats comming to them!
| >
| > Could you explain to me what "leb" refers to?
| >
| > > on sunday every white person in the area that still gives a shit
about
| > > this country will meet at cronulla beach to beat the living shit
out of
| > > any muslim/arab in sight.
| >
| > And what would be the reason for this? And assuming this is true,
are
| > the people are who are this angry even able to distinguish between
| > Muslims and non-Muslims, Arabs and non-Arabs? Not that it matters,
but
| > I'm curious with regard to how you answer this question.
|
| Stupid idiot VoteFromTheRooftops doesn't realize that MODERATE white
| supremacy is so much better---perfectly legitimate and more lasting!
| White people in partnership with token Blacks, Hispanics and Arab
| allies can rule the planet indefinitely! Instead of driving them out,
| let's find more Thomases, Powells, Condies, Gonzalezes, King
Abdullahs
| and Gulf Sheiks to serve the interests of white Conservatives in the
| US, UK and Australia. The ONLY way to legitimize Anglo-American
| hegemony over the world is to continually put forward people of color
| as representatives. Through winks and nods the majority in the three
| English speaking countries understand what has to be done. It's
people
| like VoteFromTheRooftops who mess things up.

I do not support his position - this should be dealt with by the
Police.

However what sticks in the craw of host countries is cries from Middle
East immigrants (usually Lebanese Muslims in Australia) like "GET off
our beach. This is our beach. We own it.". You can say this is just
ganf bravado, but that won't wash because very similar remarks have
been heard on the streets of Paris, Aarhus, Malmo and elsewhere -
always from Muslims. There does not seem to be any restraint in the
culture of these people, their leaders are nowhere to be seen, either
stupid old men with beards who try to pretend it is not happenning, or
young extremists egging the thugs on. The cry also has resonance in the
history of Islam, i.e. any land once occupied by Muslims is claimed by
Islam in perpetuity.

As for messing things up - this problem has been brewing for some time.
VoteFromTheRooftops is a symptom that resentment of continuous bad
behaviour is boiling over.

Fuller report of the incident here. The attack seems brutal and
unprovoked to me.
http://dailytelegraph.news.com.au/story/0,20281,17469247-5001022,00.html

http://dailytelegraph.news.com.au/story/0,20281,17469247-5001022,00.html


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forah...@hotmail.com  
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From: forah...@hotmail.com
Date: 8 Dec 2005 20:37:56 -0800
Local: Fri, Dec 9 2005 3:37 pm
Subject: Re: WHITE POWER!

You are making too many assumptions: that all these Lebanese teens are
Muslims. They could also be Christians, can they not? If there is gang
activity, I say bust these guys. But I suspect that there is more to
this story than what the author of this article are leading you to
believe. There is a lot of open racism in Australia---at least that's
what I have heard from people who have lived there.  So it could be
that some white Australians made a claim that it was their beach, and
these Lebanese youths were retorting that, no, it was their beach. I
think you need to do bit more research on this story and not
stereotype.

See also:
http://www.racismnoway.com.au/library/understanding/index-What.html#H...


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Damien McBain  
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From: Damien McBain <as...@ifyawantit.invalid>
Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 11:45:50 GMT
Local: Fri, Dec 9 2005 10:45 pm
Subject: Re: WHITE POWER!
VoteFromTheRooftops committed to the eternal aether...:

> kangarooistan, keep talking shit, you will see on sunday.

> sayid, we dont hate you, unless your in our country.

> lebanese gang rape, steal, murder etc at a rate of 30x the general
> population.
> people have had enough of these gutless fags

Don't go using "we" too losely fool.
From my perspective, any peaceful and respectful person who can make a
contribution and an effort to fit in is welcome here irrespective of where
they're from. Generalisations and sedicious comments like yours only make
things worse.

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Damien McBain  
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From: Damien McBain <as...@ifyawantit.invalid>
Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 11:49:52 GMT
Local: Fri, Dec 9 2005 10:49 pm
Subject: Re: WHITE POWER!
If I go to the beach a lot and get a tan am I still white? Just thought I'd
check with the authority on the subject.

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From: "Richard Dell" <rfd...@hotmail.com>
Date: 9 Dec 2005 07:03:19 -0800
Local: Sat, Dec 10 2005 2:03 am
Subject: Re: WHITE POWER!
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I said that Middle East immigrants (as reported in the paper) are
usually Lebanese Muslims in Australia. I believe this to be correct. I
do not think you really believe these people are Lebanese Christians,
do you?

> If there is gang
> activity, I say bust these guys. But I suspect that there is more to
> this story than what the author of this article are leading you to
> believe. There is a lot of open racism in Australia---at least that's
> what I have heard from people who have lived there.  So it could be
> that some white Australians made a claim that it was their beach, and
> these Lebanese youths were retorting that, no, it was their beach.

That goes against the typical behaviour of most beachgoers, which is to
share the facilities, and also against what the paper said:

"Some regular Cronulla beachgoers said that the behaviour of Middle
Eastern groups was so offensive, they opted to travel to other beaches
instead."

> I think you need to do bit more research on this story and not
> stereotype.

There is obviously more to this story, which the same paper has covered
in other articles. I do not think you can find any factual innacuracy
in my post, though the implication that we are seeing agressive
behaviour by Muslim immigrants here is something I think even you would
accept.

This is tangential to the beach story, and I do not think it has any
bearing on it.

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artie morty  
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 More options Dec 10 2005, 7:26 am
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From: artie morty <artiemo...@yahoo.com.au>
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 06:56:41 +1030
Local: Sat, Dec 10 2005 7:26 am
Subject: Re: WHITE POWER!
On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 11:45:50 GMT, Damien McBain

There was a gang of Lebanese men living around the Glenelg area in
Adelaide a couple of years ago.

Their motto was 'Bash an Aussie a day'.

And they beat the crap out of many - to the point of pulling people
(men women and kids, but mostly older boys) from their yards to do it.

They were hard to enforce because they used the numbers of their gang
very effectively to intimidate law enforcement.

The locals got together and set up roving patrols to try and stop
these bastards - but the gang became so big it was impossible to stop
them.

They were eventually brought under control by being picked up by the
police  individually, when, without the power of the gang behind them,
they cried like the pathetic whimps they were, and spilled their guts
on their gang friends.

Point is - the police did little until the locals made a move
themselves. And then the police had to act or bashing would have
turned to killing.

The real problem is dealing with these Lebanese gang members on an
intellectual level. They are uneducated bully's who come from a
culture that lives on crime.

Their parents and  friends are all the same - low life two bit crooks,
who, unless stopped, develop into the Lebanese Crime Syndicates that
have infiltrated the world just like the mafia from last century.

They either live the life of a criminal, or work where their education
and talents take them, namely the cleaning, fast food or courier
delivery industries.

I'm sure that not every Lebanese male is a filthy dirty gang rapist
criminal - but sadly there seem to be a hell of a lot who are.

Unfortunately, if Cronulla is anything like the problem here in
Glenelg, the locals may have to take matters into their own hands.

Cheers
Artie


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 More options Dec 10 2005, 1:29 pm
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From: forah...@hotmail.com
Date: 9 Dec 2005 18:29:34 -0800
Local: Sat, Dec 10 2005 1:29 pm
Subject: Re: WHITE POWER!

They could be Christians. Lebanese Christians have been migrating to
Western countries for the past one hundred years, if not longer. And
that is why most Lebanese in Western countries 'are' Christians.
Lebanese Muslims, on the other hand, rarely migrate but they do find
jobs in Gulf countries and usually return back to Lebanon.

What I don't understand is your insistence on characterizing these
Lebanese youngsters as "Muslims." Should we Muslims start identifying
all Westerners by their religion?

> > If there is gang
> > activity, I say bust these guys. But I suspect that there is more to
> > this story than what the author of this article are leading you to
> > believe. There is a lot of open racism in Australia---at least that's
> > what I have heard from people who have lived there.  So it could be
> > that some white Australians made a claim that it was their beach, and
> > these Lebanese youths were retorting that, no, it was their beach.

> That goes against the typical behaviour of most beachgoers, which is to
> share the facilities, and also against what the paper said:

> "Some regular Cronulla beachgoers said that the behaviour of Middle
> Eastern groups was so offensive, they opted to travel to other beaches
> instead."

The paper could be prejudiced. It never bothered to ask these Lebanese
teenagers what's their problem or how they would respond to these
charges.

> > I think you need to do bit more research on this story and not
> > stereotype.

> There is obviously more to this story, which the same paper has covered
> in other articles. I do not think you can find any factual innacuracy
> in my post, though the implication that we are seeing agressive
> behaviour by Muslim immigrants here is something I think even you would
> accept.

> > See also:
> > http://www.racismnoway.com.au/library/understanding/index-What.html#H...

> This is tangential to the beach story, and I do not think it has any
> bearing on it.

It does. If you read carefully.

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 More options Dec 10 2005, 3:05 pm
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From: "Eunometic" <eunome...@yahoo.com.au>
Date: 9 Dec 2005 20:05:38 -0800
Local: Sat, Dec 10 2005 3:05 pm
Subject: Re: WHITE POWER!

Christian marionite lebanese and coptic egyptian christians have been
around for a long time, including in number in Cronulla when I was
there 30 years ago; we got along fairly well.  They've never been
problems and fitted in with the culture.  At that time though there
were two differencess:
1 we weren't feeling the impact of Paul Keatings and Bob Hawks maximum
scumbag immigrantion program; we were selective and migrants actually
had lower crime rates than Australians: now many of them  have much
more .
2 the numbers hadn't gotten to the point that 'ghettoisation' was
happening.

It must also be remembered that Christian Marionites are descendents of
Cannaintwes and Phoenecians have a fine ancesty of trading and share a
strong religious culture with the West (christianity started there).
Thus both religiously, culturally and historically they are more
compatible.  They are far more assimilable than the muslims that
immigrated into Lebanon and made those marionites a minority such that
they inally lost power in a country there were once the majority.

Anway you can usually spot a Christian lebanese; they are somehow
different in their attitudes to the muzzies.

They seem to genuinely have girlfriends for instance and hang out in
mixed sex groups.

I must say they probably do get up to mischief more than they should
but its not so bloody minded.


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From: "Stan Pierce" <ecre...@bigpond.net.au>
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 23:13:37 GMT
Local: Sun, Dec 11 2005 10:13 am
Subject: Re: WHITE POWER!

"artie morty" <artiemo...@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message

news:ciojp15npfb9gq2ogqia8bacrsctnq3aod@4ax.com...
(snipped)> Unfortunately, if Cronulla is anything like the problem here in

> Glenelg, the locals may have to take matters into their own hands.

> Cheers
> Artie

Unfortunately you are right.   But the real crime was in the policy makers who
brought Middle Eastern people to Australia in the first place.   There was no
need for it.  There was no pressing from the public to bring them here.   I
don't know what hidden qualities they have that some policy maker thought it
necessary that we should exploit.
. You have to ask yourself what sort of people got into the Immigration Dept to
inflict these people on Australia.

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 More options Dec 11 2005, 10:28 am
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From: Chris McDonald <ch...@csse.uwa.edu.au>
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 23:28:11 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Sun, Dec 11 2005 10:28 am
Subject: Re: WHITE POWER!

"Stan Pierce" <ecre...@bigpond.net.au> writes:
>Unfortunately you are right.   But the real crime was in the policy makers who
>brought Middle Eastern people to Australia in the first place.   There was no
>need for it.  There was no pressing from the public to bring them here.   I
>don't know what hidden qualities they have that some policy maker thought it
>necessary that we should exploit.

I'm confused by your comments.

Policy makers do not "bring" Middle Eastern people to Australia, in
the first place.  The US took that approach, from Africa, a couple of
centuries ago.  People (from anywhere) wish to come ot Australia, and
it's the qualities of individuals that are "exploited", not of a whole
region or religion.

Your comments presume guilt before innocence.  Simply wrong.

--
Chris.


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