petzl -- Australia has had enough. NO MORE MOSLEMS <http://www.cdp.org.au/docs/A5_Musilm_Poll_Flyer.pdf> Vote Christian Democrat first, The Opposition Member second Your sitting member last 2nd last the anti-environment party the "Greens"
On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:06:13 +1100, Petzl <pet...@gmail.com> wrote: >Multiculturism at work. Wonder if the cross on the Australia Flag is >safe? >http://tinyurl.com/crucifixes-ban
How did you get Tiny URL to create the URL with the subject matter as above?
> petzl > -- > Australia has had enough. NO MORE MOSLEMS > <http://www.cdp.org.au/docs/A5_Musilm_Poll_Flyer.pdf> > Vote > Christian Democrat first, > The Opposition Member second > Your sitting member last > 2nd last the anti-environment party the "Greens"
# The Czech Republic is last member of EU to sign the Lisbon Treaty, which, among other things, lets the EU operate under majority rule; instead of everything having to be unanimous. Majority decision may lead to greater efficiency, and may be alright, provided that corollary of democracy - respect for minority rights - prevails. After all, dictatorship is even more efficient (no need to consult with anyone), but Germany and France will probably have most say... Crucifix in the classroom? Does the new United States of Europe have a Secular (neutral) Constitution?
<never.make.a.hard.decis...@gutless.wonder.com> wrote: >>Multiculturism at work. Wonder if the cross on the Australia Flag is >>safe? >>http://tinyurl.com/crucifixes-ban
>How did you get Tiny URL to create the URL with the subject matter as above?
Just go to http://tinyurl.com/ Put as normal your long URL in box "Enter a long URL to make tiny:" Then name it Box "Custom alias (optional):" Then click button "Make Tiny Url" As long as your "name" not been used before it will work
>> petzl ># The Czech Republic is last member of EU to sign the Lisbon Treaty, which, >among other things, lets the EU operate under majority rule; instead of >everything having to be unanimous. > Majority decision may lead to greater efficiency, and may be alright, >provided that corollary of democracy - respect for minority rights - >prevails. > After all, dictatorship is even more efficient (no need to consult with >anyone), but Germany and France will probably have most say... > Crucifix in the classroom? > Does the new United States of Europe have a Secular (neutral) >Constitution?
This would be a Moslem thing make no error
The EU had any conscience and brains Islam would be banned The Soviets effectively banned Christianity but never Islam Are Christians pacifist and just obey?
This is happening in Australia with schools not allowed Christmas Easter and Moslems have demanded that Ramadan take their place Sharia Law Parties are being set-up, -- Petzl
>Tell us what this has to do with multiculturalism.
I did This would be a Moslem thing make no error
The EU had any conscience and brains Islam would be banned The Soviets effectively banned Christianity but never Islam Are Christians pacifist and just obey?
This is happening in Australia with schools not allowed Christmas Easter and Moslems have demanded that Ramadan take their place Sharia Law Parties are being set-up,
petzl -- Australia has had enough. NO MORE MOSLEMS <http://www.cdp.org.au/docs/A5_Musilm_Poll_Flyer.pdf> Vote Christian Democrat first, The Opposition Member second Your sitting member last 2nd last the anti-environment party the "Greens"
On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 08:40:25 +1100, Petzl <pet...@gmail.com> wrote: >On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:31:06 +1100, Krudd the Dud ><never.make.a.hard.decis...@gutless.wonder.com> wrote:
>>How did you get Tiny URL to create the URL with the subject matter as above?
>Just go to >http://tinyurl.com/ >Put as normal your long URL in box >"Enter a long URL to make tiny:" >Then name it Box > "Custom alias (optional):" >Then click button >"Make Tiny Url" >As long as your "name" not been used before it will work
Thanks, been using it for years, never noticed the "custom" option until you pointed out.
BTW you can put an icon for TinyURL in your Firefox /IE toolbar, saves going to the web page all the time, and it automatically creates the tiny URL.
>>Tell us what this has to do with multiculturalism.
> I did > This would be a Moslem thing make no error
No it isn't. You give again false wittness showing that you are not a Christian. It is an Atheist thing. The Judges are not Muslims. Muslims were interviewed and said that a cross in the classroom doesn't worry them. As seen on Deutsche Welle.
> The EU had any conscience and brains Islam would be banned > The Soviets effectively banned Christianity but never Islam > Are Christians pacifist and just obey?
> This is happening in Australia with schools not allowed Christmas > Easter and Moslems have demanded that Ramadan take their place > Sharia Law Parties are being set-up,
> petzl > -- > Australia has had enough. NO MORE MOSLEMS > <http://www.cdp.org.au/docs/A5_Musilm_Poll_Flyer.pdf> > Vote > Christian Democrat first, > The Opposition Member second > Your sitting member last > 2nd last the anti-environment party the "Greens"
On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 23:01:58 GMT, "HD" <her...@bigpond.com> wrote: >>>> Multiculturism at work. Wonder if the cross on the Australia Flag is >>>> safe? >>>> http://tinyurl.com/crucifixes-ban
>>>Tell us what this has to do with multiculturalism.
>> I did >> This would be a Moslem thing make no error
>No it isn't. >You give again false wittness showing that you are not a Christian. >It is an Atheist thing. >The Judges are not Muslims. >Muslims were interviewed and said that a cross in the classroom >doesn't worry them.
And you believe anything and everything these zombies for Allah are told to say, Of course this ruling was everything to do with this Islamic horror cult. Even though it is because of Our Lord Jesus Christ and his followers that Moslems have been saved in this life only and not entitled to any Christian citizenship As these "Judges" are sitting in Christian Europe I and Europe question their employability and impartiality
>>>>Tell us what this has to do with multiculturalism.
>>> I did >>> This would be a Moslem thing make no error
>>No it isn't. >>You give again false wittness showing that you are not a Christian. >>It is an Atheist thing. >>The Judges are not Muslims. >>Muslims were interviewed and said that a cross in the classroom >>doesn't worry them.
> And you believe anything and everything these zombies for Allah are > told to say, Of course this ruling was everything to do with this > Islamic horror cult. Even though it is because of Our Lord Jesus > Christ and his followers that Moslems have been saved in this life > only and not entitled to any Christian citizenship > As these "Judges" are sitting in Christian Europe I and Europe > question their employability and impartiality
On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 07:38:53 GMT, "HD" <her...@bigpond.com> wrote: >>>>>> Multiculturism at work. Wonder if the cross on the Australia Flag is >>>>>> safe? >>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/crucifixes-ban
>>>>>Tell us what this has to do with multiculturalism.
>>>> I did >>>> This would be a Moslem thing make no error
>>>No it isn't. >>>You give again false wittness showing that you are not a Christian. >>>It is an Atheist thing. >>>The Judges are not Muslims. >>>Muslims were interviewed and said that a cross in the classroom >>>doesn't worry them.
>> And you believe anything and everything these zombies for Allah are >> told to say, Of course this ruling was everything to do with this >> Islamic horror cult. Even though it is because of Our Lord Jesus >> Christ and his followers that Moslems have been saved in this life >> only and not entitled to any Christian citizenship >> As these "Judges" are sitting in Christian Europe I and Europe >> question their employability and impartiality
>Everyone is getting sick and tired of your hate and lies.
I don't lie You are in denial and don't like it
Petzl -- Australia is a Christian nation, Australian society is based on a Christian culture with Christian values and Christian principles. We have nothing to be ashamed of in stating that
> On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 07:38:53 GMT, "HD" <her...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Multiculturism at work. Wonder if the cross on the Australia Flag is >>>>>>> safe? >>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/crucifixes-ban
>>>>>>Tell us what this has to do with multiculturalism.
>>>>> I did >>>>> This would be a Moslem thing make no error
>>>>No it isn't. >>>>You give again false wittness showing that you are not a Christian. >>>>It is an Atheist thing. >>>>The Judges are not Muslims. >>>>Muslims were interviewed and said that a cross in the classroom >>>>doesn't worry them.
>>> And you believe anything and everything these zombies for Allah are >>> told to say, Of course this ruling was everything to do with this >>> Islamic horror cult. Even though it is because of Our Lord Jesus >>> Christ and his followers that Moslems have been saved in this life >>> only and not entitled to any Christian citizenship >>> As these "Judges" are sitting in Christian Europe I and Europe >>> question their employability and impartiality
>>Everyone is getting sick and tired of your hate and lies.
> I don't lie > You are in denial and don't like it
> Petzl > -- > Australia is a Christian nation, > Australian society is based on > a Christian culture with Christian values and Christian principles. > We have nothing to be ashamed of in stating that
So did you see the program? Did you see Muslims complaining to the European Court? Did you see young Muslims being intervied? Of course you did not. You have a hateful and bigoted mind and you make up stories. That is lying and unchristian.
On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:49:41 GMT, "HD" <her...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Multiculturism at work. Wonder if the cross on the Australia Flag is >>>>>>>> safe? >>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/crucifixes-ban
>>>>>>>Tell us what this has to do with multiculturalism.
>>>>>> I did >>>>>> This would be a Moslem thing make no error
>>>>>No it isn't. >>>>>You give again false wittness showing that you are not a Christian. >>>>>It is an Atheist thing. >>>>>The Judges are not Muslims. >>>>>Muslims were interviewed and said that a cross in the classroom >>>>>doesn't worry them.
>>>> And you believe anything and everything these zombies for Allah are >>>> told to say, Of course this ruling was everything to do with this >>>> Islamic horror cult. Even though it is because of Our Lord Jesus >>>> Christ and his followers that Moslems have been saved in this life >>>> only and not entitled to any Christian citizenship >>>> As these "Judges" are sitting in Christian Europe I and Europe >>>> question their employability and impartiality
>>>Everyone is getting sick and tired of your hate and lies.
>> I don't lie >> You are in denial and don't like it
>So did you see the program? Did you see Muslims complaining to the European >Court? Did you see young Muslims being intervied? >Of course you did not. >You have a hateful and bigoted mind and you make up stories. >That is lying and unchristian.
I did see a European dhimmi slant infomercial for Islamic denial (which was not credible)
Fact is the Crucifix is a symbol of our Christian culture and heritage In Italy it is a requirement for ALL Schools to have the Crucifix on display.
The court ignores the role of Christianity in forming Europe's identity (Australia also), which was and remains essential.
Complaints about schools dropping nativity plays to avoid upsetting Muslim children, Has been voiced in all Christian Nations including. Australia (Which is still legally a Christian Theocraacy)
petzl -- Australia has had enough. NO MORE MOSLEMS <http://www.cdp.org.au/docs/A5_Musilm_Poll_Flyer.pdf> Vote Christian Democrat first, The Opposition Member second Your sitting member last 2nd last the anti-environment party the "Greens"
> On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:49:41 GMT, "HD" <her...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Multiculturism at work. Wonder if the cross on the Australia Flag >>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>> safe? >>>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/crucifixes-ban
>>>>>>>>Tell us what this has to do with multiculturalism.
>>>>>>> I did >>>>>>> This would be a Moslem thing make no error
>>>>>>No it isn't. >>>>>>You give again false wittness showing that you are not a Christian. >>>>>>It is an Atheist thing. >>>>>>The Judges are not Muslims. >>>>>>Muslims were interviewed and said that a cross in the classroom >>>>>>doesn't worry them.
>>>>> And you believe anything and everything these zombies for Allah are >>>>> told to say, Of course this ruling was everything to do with this >>>>> Islamic horror cult. Even though it is because of Our Lord Jesus >>>>> Christ and his followers that Moslems have been saved in this life >>>>> only and not entitled to any Christian citizenship >>>>> As these "Judges" are sitting in Christian Europe I and Europe >>>>> question their employability and impartiality
>>>>Everyone is getting sick and tired of your hate and lies.
>>> I don't lie >>> You are in denial and don't like it
>>So did you see the program? Did you see Muslims complaining to the >>European >>Court? Did you see young Muslims being intervied? >>Of course you did not. >>You have a hateful and bigoted mind and you make up stories. >>That is lying and unchristian.
> I did see a European dhimmi slant infomercial for Islamic denial > (which was not credible)
> Fact is the Crucifix is a symbol of our Christian culture and heritage > In Italy it is a requirement for ALL Schools to have the Crucifix on > display.
> The court ignores the role of Christianity in forming Europe's > identity (Australia also), which was and remains essential.
Maybe the judges are gay atheists who hate Christianity.
> Complaints about schools dropping nativity plays to avoid upsetting > Muslim children,
Who is complaining? Muslims or atheists?
Has been voiced in all Christian Nations including.
> Australia (Which is still legally a Christian Theocraacy)
> petzl > -- > Australia has had enough. NO MORE MOSLEMS > <http://www.cdp.org.au/docs/A5_Musilm_Poll_Flyer.pdf> > Vote > Christian Democrat first, > The Opposition Member second > Your sitting member last > 2nd last the anti-environment party the "Greens"
>> # The Czech Republic is last member of EU to sign the Lisbon Treaty, which, >> among other things, lets the EU operate under majority rule; instead of >> everything having to be unanimous. >> Majority decision may lead to greater efficiency, and may be alright, >> provided that corollary of democracy - respect for minority rights - >> prevails. >> After all, dictatorship is even more efficient (no need to consult with >> anyone), but Germany and France will probably have most say... >> Crucifix in the classroom? >> Does the new United States of Europe have a Secular (neutral) >> Constitution?
> This would be a Moslem thing make no error
> The EU had any conscience and brains Islam would be banned > The Soviets effectively banned Christianity but never Islam > Are Christians pacifist and just obey?
> This is happening in Australia with schools not allowed Christmas > Easter and Moslems have demanded that Ramadan take their place > Sharia Law Parties are being set-up, > -- > Petzl
It could have been, but this time I believe it was an atheist trying to make a point. Actually a parent aiding and abetting her little darling who found the crucifix upsetting. Might also find the history of wars upsetting - disposing that would shorten up history lessons wot?
On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 00:12:12 GMT, jg <j...@nospam.com> wrote: >> This is happening in Australia with schools not allowed Christmas >> Easter and Moslems have demanded that Ramadan take their place >> Sharia Law Parties are being set-up,
>It could have been, but this time I believe it was an atheist trying to >make a point. Actually a parent aiding and abetting her little darling >who found the crucifix upsetting. Might also find the history of wars >upsetting - disposing that would shorten up history lessons wot?
In this case you are correct the Woman making the complaint had it thrown out by Italian courts as it is (still) law in Italy for schools to display a Christian Cross (crucifix) in all schoolrooms. It is regarded as a sign for their heritage and culture
What I doubt is the impartiality of European dhimmi Courts, seeing this as upsetting Moslem sensibilities. Thus further encouraging Islamic attacks on Western Culture and Heritage
petzl -- Australia has had enough. NO MORE MOSLEMS <http://www.cdp.org.au/docs/A5_Musilm_Poll_Flyer.pdf> Vote Christian Democrat first, The Opposition Member second Your sitting member last 2nd last the anti-environment party the "Greens"
Petzl wrote: > On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 00:12:12 GMT, jg <j...@nospam.com> wrote:
>>> This is happening in Australia with schools not allowed Christmas >>> Easter and Moslems have demanded that Ramadan take their place >>> Sharia Law Parties are being set-up, >> It could have been, but this time I believe it was an atheist trying to >> make a point. Actually a parent aiding and abetting her little darling >> who found the crucifix upsetting. Might also find the history of wars >> upsetting - disposing that would shorten up history lessons wot?
> In this case you are correct the Woman making the complaint had it > thrown out by Italian courts as it is (still) law in Italy for schools > to display a Christian Cross (crucifix) in all schoolrooms. It is > regarded as a sign for their heritage and culture
> What I doubt is the impartiality of European dhimmi Courts, seeing > this as upsetting Moslem sensibilities. Thus further encouraging > Islamic attacks on Western Culture and Heritage
> petzl
I read it was upheld and they were awarded about $8000. Now they are worried about every bastard having a go, I think there is an appeal.
More blind justice in our system than any Islamic move.
On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 00:53:01 GMT, jg <j...@nospam.com> wrote: >Petzl wrote: >> On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 00:12:12 GMT, jg <j...@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>> This is happening in Australia with schools not allowed Christmas >>>> Easter and Moslems have demanded that Ramadan take their place >>>> Sharia Law Parties are being set-up, >>> It could have been, but this time I believe it was an atheist trying to >>> make a point. Actually a parent aiding and abetting her little darling >>> who found the crucifix upsetting. Might also find the history of wars >>> upsetting - disposing that would shorten up history lessons wot?
>> In this case you are correct the Woman making the complaint had it >> thrown out by Italian courts as it is (still) law in Italy for schools >> to display a Christian Cross (crucifix) in all schoolrooms. It is >> regarded as a sign for their heritage and culture
>> What I doubt is the impartiality of European dhimmi Courts, seeing >> this as upsetting Moslem sensibilities. Thus further encouraging >> Islamic attacks on Western Culture and Heritage
>> petzl
>I read it was upheld and they were awarded about $8000. Now they are >worried about every bastard having a go, I think there is an appeal.
>More blind justice in our system than any Islamic move.
On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 00:53:01 GMT, jg <j...@nospam.com> wrote:
>I read it was upheld and they were awarded about $8000. Now they are >worried about every bastard having a go, I think there is an appeal.
>More blind justice in our system than any Islamic move.
Well theres always the Cross's in the Australian Flag one may get $$$$ compensation for having it there. It was put there because it is a "Christian flag, which has on it the cross of St George, St Patrick and St Andrew. Almighty God has put a Christian cross in the sky above our nation—the Southern Cross in the shape of the cross of Jesus Christ"
Petzl -- 'we are a Christian nation' with 'Christian values' to which newcomers should conform, while enjoying freedom for their own beliefs. Pauline Hanson.
If you look at Australia it is largely a Christian country with Christian norms. The things we do, the way our political parties behave, have, if not an activist Christianity about it, Christian ideals. Paul Keating
Petzl wrote: > On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 00:53:01 GMT, jg <j...@nospam.com> wrote:
>> I read it was upheld and they were awarded about $8000. Now they are >> worried about every bastard having a go, I think there is an appeal.
>> More blind justice in our system than any Islamic move.
> Well theres always the Cross's in the Australian Flag one may get $$$$ > compensation for having it there. > It was put there because it is a "Christian flag, which has on it the > cross of St George, St Patrick and St Andrew. Almighty God has put a > Christian cross in the sky above our nation—the Southern Cross in the > shape of the cross of Jesus Christ"
> Petzl > -- > 'we are a Christian nation' with 'Christian values' to which newcomers > should conform, while enjoying freedom for their own beliefs. > Pauline Hanson.
> If you look at Australia it is largely a Christian country with > Christian norms. The things we do, the way our political parties > behave, have, if not an activist Christianity about it, Christian > ideals. > Paul Keating
Nup. This is about scaring kids with the stark image of a bloke tortured to death and Italians are pretty good at sparing no detail in art.
Christian culture generally focuses on the spiritual aspect of it, moving on from the basic details. For atheists it's just a gruesome image.
It's more about consistency in censorship - on that count I do believe censorship often goes too far.
On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 01:34:21 GMT, jg <j...@nospam.com> wrote: >Nup. This is about scaring kids with the stark image of a bloke tortured >to death and Italians are pretty good at sparing no detail in art.
>Christian culture generally focuses on the spiritual aspect of it, >moving on from the basic details. For atheists it's just a gruesome image.
>It's more about consistency in censorship - on that count I do believe >censorship often goes too far.
Scaring people can be done in many forms eg Pizza is the work of the devil, and that Cappuccino is actually the ejaculated seed of Satan himself. I see gargoyles on many buildings worldwide are they to be removed in case they scare children
Petzl wrote: > On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 01:34:21 GMT, jg <j...@nospam.com> wrote:
>> Nup. This is about scaring kids with the stark image of a bloke tortured >> to death and Italians are pretty good at sparing no detail in art.
>> Christian culture generally focuses on the spiritual aspect of it, >> moving on from the basic details. For atheists it's just a gruesome image.
>> It's more about consistency in censorship - on that count I do believe >> censorship often goes too far.
> Scaring people can be done in many forms eg Pizza is the work of the > devil, and that Cappuccino is actually the ejaculated seed of Satan > himself. > I see gargoyles on many buildings worldwide are they to be removed in > case they scare children
On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 02:35:10 GMT, jg <j...@nospam.com> wrote: >Petzl wrote: >> On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 01:34:21 GMT, jg <j...@nospam.com> wrote:
>>> Nup. This is about scaring kids with the stark image of a bloke tortured >>> to death and Italians are pretty good at sparing no detail in art.
>>> Christian culture generally focuses on the spiritual aspect of it, >>> moving on from the basic details. For atheists it's just a gruesome image.
>>> It's more about consistency in censorship - on that count I do believe >>> censorship often goes too far.
>> Scaring people can be done in many forms eg Pizza is the work of the >> devil, and that Cappuccino is actually the ejaculated seed of Satan >> himself. >> I see gargoyles on many buildings worldwide are they to be removed in >> case they scare children
>Indeed. I'm not backing it, just relating the twisted trail of logic >behind it. Not Arabs this time.
Being raised at a time of Bible Class (compulsory) All were are taught the crucifix is a symbol of self-sacrifice. forgiveness and love. These not recognized as a "scary" image
Not being Islamic traits is no doubt the twist European dhimmi Courts have placed on their decision (There are more Arab Christians than Australian)
Petzl __ As *everyone knows* Islam is of course synonymous with terrorism
Petzl wrote: > On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 02:35:10 GMT, jg <j...@nospam.com> wrote:
>> Petzl wrote: >>> On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 01:34:21 GMT, jg <j...@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>> Nup. This is about scaring kids with the stark image of a bloke tortured >>>> to death and Italians are pretty good at sparing no detail in art.
>>>> Christian culture generally focuses on the spiritual aspect of it, >>>> moving on from the basic details. For atheists it's just a gruesome image.
>>>> It's more about consistency in censorship - on that count I do believe >>>> censorship often goes too far. >>> Scaring people can be done in many forms eg Pizza is the work of the >>> devil, and that Cappuccino is actually the ejaculated seed of Satan >>> himself. >>> I see gargoyles on many buildings worldwide are they to be removed in >>> case they scare children
>> Indeed. I'm not backing it, just relating the twisted trail of logic >> behind it. Not Arabs this time.
> Being raised at a time of Bible Class (compulsory) > All were are taught the crucifix is a symbol of self-sacrifice. > forgiveness and love. These not recognized as a "scary" image
> Not being Islamic traits is no doubt the twist European dhimmi Courts > have placed on their decision (There are more Arab Christians than > Australian)
No it's not. Without the scripture classes the image is barely different from Ned Kelly hanging and that could be disturbing or "tasteless" to some adults.
The real trauma of crucifixion is not as immediately obvious, especially given the abstract nature of most statues. I don't support the decision, but I do accept plain old secular censorship or PC attitudes as the reason for it.
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