By Philip Sherwell in New York
Published: 1:41AM GMT 06 Nov 2009

Col Terry Lee, a retired officer who worked with him at the military
base in Texas, described angry confrontations between Maj Hasan and
other officers after he expressed his views.

Maj Hasan was reportedly fighting orders to be deployed to Iraq at the
end of the month, claiming that he was the victim of harassment and
insults because of his Arab background and his faith.

      Fort Hood shooting: 12 killed at US army base
    *
      Pakistan region hit by suicide bomb that kills 40 people
    *
      Terrorists launch second wave of 'revenge' attacks in Pakistan
    *
      Pakistan suicide bombing kills 23 in 'Taliban revenge attack'
    *
      Pakistani army prepares for key Swat battle

The major was a psychiatrist who had been treating soldiers returning
from Iraq for post-traumatic stress and alcohol and drug abuse
problems.

"He was making outlandish comments condemning our foreign policy and
claimed Muslims had the right to rise up and attack Americans," Col
Lee told Fox News.

"He said Muslims should stand up and fight the aggressor and that we
should not be in the war in the first place."

He said he was aware that the major had been subject to "name calling"
during heated arguments with other officers.

Maj Hasan's cousin Nader Husan said he was happy working for the
military but did dread deployment to Iraq.

Mr Hasan said his cousin was a US-born Muslim who had joined the
military after high school.

 He had served as a psychiatrist at the Walter Reed Army Medical
Center in Washington DC, which treats many badly wounded troops.

"He was a psychiatrist at Walter Reed dealing with the people coming
back and ... trying to help them with their trauma," he said.

He said his cousin had been transferred to Fort Hood in April months
ago and was very reluctant to be deployed to Iraq. "We've known over
the last five years that was probably his worst nightmare," he said.

Published: November 5, 2009

Updated: 23 min. ago

Related Links

    * Shootings at Fort Hood

Officials at MacDill Air Force Base, home to Central Command and
Special Operations Command, are not talking about what, if any,
additional security measures they are taking after today's shootings
at Fort Hood.

"The Air Force takes the safety and security of its personnel
seriously, and the Air Force is committed to protecting all service
members, their families, civilian employees and anyone else that works
or visits MacDill AFB," Col. Larry Martin, 6th Air Mobility Wing
commander, said in a written statement. "MacDill Air Force Base has
security measures in place at all times, however, The Air Force does
not discuss specifics of our force protection measures."

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Fort Hood shootings not  first brush with tragedy

05:20 PM CST on Thursday, November 5, 2009

From staff reports

Killeen was the site of one of the nation's most deadly mass shootings
on Oct. 16, 1991. On that day, George Hennard, 35, slammed his truck
through the front window of a Luby's Cafeteria in Killeen.

Yelling, "This is what Bell County did to me," he got out of his truck
and began shooting diners. Within 10 minutes, he had killed 23 people
and wounded more than 20 before committing suicide.

12 dead as soldier opens fire at Fort Hood Army base

Google map: Area where shootings reportedly occurred

Obama laments 'horrific outburst of violence'

Link: Fort Hood facts

Witnesses said the killer strolled through the cafeteria, randomly
selecting victims.

No motive was ever established.

Reportedly a racist and a misogynist, he wrote to a friend in early
1991: "Please give me the satisfaction of one day laughing in the face
of all those mostly white treacherous female vipers." After graduating
from high school, he joined the Navy, then later transferred to the
Merchant Marine,

Timothy James McVeigh (April 23, 1968 – June 11, 2001)

 was a United States Army veteran and security guard who was convicted
of bombing the Alfred P. Murrah Building in Oklahoma City on April 19,
1995, the second anniversary of the Waco Siege, as revenge or to
inspire a revolt against what he considered a tyrannical federal
government.

 The bombing killed 168 people and was the deadliest act of terrorism
within the United States prior to the September 11, 2001 attacks.[2]

Military career

In May 1988, McVeigh enlisted in the U.S. Army.[17] He had little
interest in the bar scene, preferring to use his spare time to read
about guns, sniper tactics, or explosives.[18] He once ordered a
"White Power" T-shirt from the KKK in protest against black servicemen
who wore "Black Power" T-shirts around his army camp [19], but was
reprimanded.

He was a decorated veteran of the United States Army, having served in
the Gulf War, where he was awarded a Bronze Star. He had been a top-
scoring gunner with the 25mm cannon of the Bradley Fighting Vehicles
used by the U.S. 1st Infantry Division to which he was assigned. He
served at Fort Riley, Kansas, before Operation Desert Storm. At Fort
Riley, McVeigh completed the Primary Leadership Development Course
(PLDC). McVeigh later would say that the Army taught him how to switch
off his emotions.[6] He had special lifesaving training and may have
saved the life of a comrade who had life-threatening shrapnel wounds.
[20]

Are Muslims known for doing anything beneficial to mankind or the good
earth?

I believe their women afforded hospitality during that Catholic Youth
Festival (or whatever it was called).

By Philip Sherwell in New York
Published: 1:41AM GMT 06 Nov 2009

Col Terry Lee, a retired officer who worked with him at the military
base in Texas, described angry confrontations between Maj Hasan and
other officers after he expressed his views.

Maj Hasan was reportedly fighting orders to be deployed to Iraq at the
end of the month, claiming that he was the victim of harassment and
insults because of his Arab background and his faith.

      Fort Hood shooting: 12 killed at US army base
    *
      Pakistan region hit by suicide bomb that kills 40 people
    *
      Terrorists launch second wave of 'revenge' attacks in Pakistan
    *
      Pakistan suicide bombing kills 23 in 'Taliban revenge attack'
    *
      Pakistani army prepares for key Swat battle

The major was a psychiatrist who had been treating soldiers returning
from Iraq for post-traumatic stress and alcohol and drug abuse
problems.

"He was making outlandish comments condemning our foreign policy and
claimed Muslims had the right to rise up and attack Americans," Col
Lee told Fox News.

"He said Muslims should stand up and fight the aggressor and that we
should not be in the war in the first place."

He said he was aware that the major had been subject to "name calling"
during heated arguments with other officers.

Maj Hasan's cousin Nader Husan said he was happy working for the
military but did dread deployment to Iraq.

Mr Hasan said his cousin was a US-born Muslim who had joined the
military after high school.

 He had served as a psychiatrist at the Walter Reed Army Medical
Center in Washington DC, which treats many badly wounded troops.

"He was a psychiatrist at Walter Reed dealing with the people coming
back and ... trying to help them with their trauma," he said.

He said his cousin had been transferred to Fort Hood in April months
ago and was very reluctant to be deployed to Iraq. "We've known over
the last five years that was probably his worst nightmare," he said.

Published: November 5, 2009

Updated: 23 min. ago

Related Links

    * Shootings at Fort Hood

Officials at MacDill Air Force Base, home to Central Command and
Special Operations Command, are not talking about what, if any,
additional security measures they are taking after today's shootings
at Fort Hood.

"The Air Force takes the safety and security of its personnel
seriously, and the Air Force is committed to protecting all service
members, their families, civilian employees and anyone else that works
or visits MacDill AFB," Col. Larry Martin, 6th Air Mobility Wing
commander, said in a written statement. "MacDill Air Force Base has
security measures in place at all times, however, The Air Force does
not discuss specifics of our force protection measures."

Share
Fort Hood shootings not  first brush with tragedy

05:20 PM CST on Thursday, November 5, 2009

From staff reports

Killeen was the site of one of the nation's most deadly mass shootings
on Oct. 16, 1991. On that day, George Hennard, 35, slammed his truck
through the front window of a Luby's Cafeteria in Killeen.

Yelling, "This is what Bell County did to me," he got out of his truck
and began shooting diners. Within 10 minutes, he had killed 23 people
and wounded more than 20 before committing suicide.

12 dead as soldier opens fire at Fort Hood Army base

Google map: Area where shootings reportedly occurred

Obama laments 'horrific outburst of violence'

Link: Fort Hood facts

Witnesses said the killer strolled through the cafeteria, randomly
selecting victims.

No motive was ever established.

Reportedly a racist and a misogynist, he wrote to a friend in early
1991: "Please give me the satisfaction of one day laughing in the face
of all those mostly white treacherous female vipers." After graduating
from high school, he joined the Navy, then later transferred to the
Merchant Marine,

Timothy James McVeigh (April 23, 1968 – June 11, 2001)

 was a United States Army veteran and security guard who was convicted
of bombing the Alfred P. Murrah Building in Oklahoma City on April 19,
1995, the second anniversary of the Waco Siege, as revenge or to
inspire a revolt against what he considered a tyrannical federal
government.

 The bombing killed 168 people and was the deadliest act of terrorism
within the United States prior to the September 11, 2001 attacks.[2]

Military career

In May 1988, McVeigh enlisted in the U.S. Army.[17] He had little
interest in the bar scene, preferring to use his spare time to read
about guns, sniper tactics, or explosives.[18] He once ordered a
"White Power" T-shirt from the KKK in protest against black servicemen
who wore "Black Power" T-shirts around his army camp [19], but was
reprimanded.

He was a decorated veteran of the United States Army, having served in
the Gulf War, where he was awarded a Bronze Star. He had been a top-
scoring gunner with the 25mm cannon of the Bradley Fighting Vehicles
used by the U.S. 1st Infantry Division to which he was assigned. He
served at Fort Riley, Kansas, before Operation Desert Storm. At Fort
Riley, McVeigh completed the Primary Leadership Development Course
(PLDC). McVeigh later would say that the Army taught him how to switch
off his emotions.[6] He had special lifesaving training and may have
saved the life of a comrade who had life-threatening shrapnel wounds.
[20]

--
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ipvdBnU8F8
  - KRudd at his finest.

"The Labour Party is corrupt beyond redemption!"
  - Labour hasbeen Mark Latham in a moment of honest clarity.

"This is the recession we had to have!"
  - Paul Keating explaining why he gave Australia another Labour recession.

"Silly old bugger!"
  - Well known ACTU pisspot and sometime Labour prime minister Bob Hawke
responding to a pensioner who dared ask for more.

"By 1990, no child will live in poverty"
  - Bob Hawke again, desperate to win another election.

"A billion trees ..."
  - Borke, pissed as a newt again.

"Well may we say 'God save the Queen' because nothing will save the governor
general!"
  - Egotistical shithead and pompous fuckwit E.G. Whitlam whining about his
appointee for Governor General John Kerr.

"SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU DUMB CUNT!"
  - FlangesBum on learning the truth about Labour's economic capabilities.

"I don't care what you fuckers think!"
  - KRudd the KRude at his finest again.

05:20 PM CST on Thursday, November 5, 2009

From staff reports

Killeen was the site of one of the nation's most deadly mass shootings
on Oct. 16, 1991. On that day, George Hennard, 35, slammed his truck
through the front window of a Luby's Cafeteria in Killeen.

Yelling, "This is what Bell County did to me," he got out of his truck
and began shooting diners. Within 10 minutes, he had killed 23 people
and wounded more than 20 before committing suicide.

12 dead as soldier opens fire at Fort Hood Army base

Google map: Area where shootings reportedly occurred

Obama laments 'horrific outburst of violence'

Link: Fort Hood facts

Witnesses said the killer strolled through the cafeteria, randomly
selecting victims.

No motive was ever established.

Reportedly a racist and a misogynist, he wrote to a friend in early
1991: "Please give me the satisfaction of one day laughing in the face
of all those mostly white treacherous female vipers." After graduating
from high school, he joined the Navy, then later transferred to the
Merchant Marine,

Timothy James McVeigh (April 23, 1968 – June 11, 2001)

 was a United States Army veteran and security guard who was convicted
of bombing the Alfred P. Murrah Building in Oklahoma City on April 19,
1995, the second anniversary of the Waco Siege, as revenge or to
inspire a revolt against what he considered a tyrannical federal
government.

 The bombing killed 168 people and was the deadliest act of terrorism
within the United States prior to the September 11, 2001 attacks.[2]

Military career

In May 1988, McVeigh enlisted in the U.S. Army.[17] He had little
interest in the bar scene, preferring to use his spare time to read
about guns, sniper tactics, or explosives.[18] He once ordered a
"White Power" T-shirt from the KKK in protest against black servicemen
who wore "Black Power" T-shirts around his army camp [19], but was
reprimanded.

He was a decorated veteran of the United States Army, having served in
the Gulf War, where he was awarded a Bronze Star. He had been a top-
scoring gunner with the 25mm cannon of the Bradley Fighting Vehicles
used by the U.S. 1st Infantry Division to which he was assigned. He
served at Fort Riley, Kansas, before Operation Desert Storm. At Fort
Riley, McVeigh completed the Primary Leadership Development Course
(PLDC). McVeigh later would say that the Army taught him how to switch
off his emotions.[6] He had special lifesaving training and may have
saved the life of a comrade who had life-threatening shrapnel wounds.
[20]

 He said he was aware that the major had been subject to "name
calling"
 during heated arguments with other officers.But once forced to kill
babies for Israel he had no option left but to attack the REAL
terrorists in any way he could

 Maj Hasan's cousin Nader Husan said he was happy working for the
 military but did dread deployment to Iraq.Murdering innocent Iraqi
civillians in an ILEGAL war is a war crime

he simply had NO OTHER LEGAL OPTION

 Mr Hasan said his cousin was a US-born Muslim who had joined the
 military after high school. He PLEDGED to defend America from armed
violent terrorists and when put to the test he HAD TO DEFEND AMERICA
from the REAL terrorists

  He had served as a psychiatrist at the Walter Reed Army Medical
 Center in Washington DC, which treats many badly wounded troops.

 "He was a psychiatrist at Walter Reed dealing with the people coming
 back and ... trying to help them with their trauma," he said.

 He said his cousin had been transferred to Fort Hood in April months
 ago and was very reluctant to be deployed to Iraq. "We've known over
 the last five years that was probably his worst nightmare," he said.

 Published: November 5, 2009

  was a United States Army veteran and security guard who was
convicted
 of bombing the Alfred P. Murrah Building in Oklahoma City on April
19,
 1995, the second anniversary of the Waco Siege, as revenge or to
 inspire a revolt against what he considered a tyrannical federal
 government.

  The bombing killed 168 people and was the deadliest act of terrorism
 within the United States prior to the September 11, 2001 attacks.[2]

 He was a decorated veteran of the United States Army, having served
in
 the Gulf War, where he was awarded a Bronze Star. He had been a top-
 scoring gunner with the 25mm cannon of the Bradley Fighting Vehicles
 used by the U.S. 1st Infantry Division to which he was assigned. He
 served at Fort Riley, Kansas, before Operation Desert Storm. At Fort
 Riley, McVeigh completed the Primary Leadership Development Course
 (PLDC). McVeigh later would say that the Army taught him how to
switch
 off his emotions.[6] He had special lifesaving training and may have
 saved the life of a comrade who had life-threatening shrapnel wounds.
 [20]

 McVeigh wanted to join the United States Army Special Forces. After
 returning from the Gulf War, he entered the selection program for
 United States Army Special Forces to become a SF soldier , but was
 quickly dropped from the program after failing to meet the physical
fitness requirements. Shortly thereafter, McVeigh decided to leave the
 Army. He was discharged on December 31, 1991.[21] McVeigh was given
an
 honorable discharge from the Army Reserve in May 1992.
  He was convicted of 11 federal offenses, sentenced to death and
 executed on June 11, 2001.

Share
Fort Hood shootings not  first brush with tragedy

05:20 PM CST on Thursday, November 5, 2009

From staff reports

Killeen was the site of one of the nation's most deadly mass shootings
on Oct. 16, 1991. On that day, George Hennard, 35, slammed his truck
through the front window of a Luby's Cafeteria in Killeen.

Yelling, "This is what Bell County did to me," he got out of his truck
and began shooting diners. Within 10 minutes, he had killed 23 people
and wounded more than 20 before committing suicide.

12 dead as soldier opens fire at Fort Hood Army base

Google map: Area where shootings reportedly occurred

Obama laments 'horrific outburst of violence'

Link: Fort Hood facts

Witnesses said the killer strolled through the cafeteria, randomly
selecting victims.

No motive was ever established.

Reportedly a racist and a misogynist, he wrote to a friend in early
1991: "Please give me the satisfaction of one day laughing in the face
of all those mostly white treacherous female vipers." After graduating
from high school, he joined the Navy, then later transferred to the
Merchant Marine,

Timothy James McVeigh (April 23, 1968 – June 11, 2001)

 was a United States Army veteran and security guard who was convicted
of bombing the Alfred P. Murrah Building in Oklahoma City on April 19,
1995, the second anniversary of the Waco Siege, as revenge or to
inspire a revolt against what he considered a tyrannical federal
government.

 The bombing killed 168 people and was the deadliest act of terrorism
within the United States prior to the September 11, 2001 attacks.[2]

Military career

In May 1988, McVeigh enlisted in the U.S. Army.[17] He had little
interest in the bar scene, preferring to use his spare time to read
about guns, sniper tactics, or explosives.[18] He once ordered a
"White Power" T-shirt from the KKK in protest against black servicemen
who wore "Black Power" T-shirts around his army camp [19], but was
reprimanded.

He was a decorated veteran of the United States Army, having served in
the Gulf War, where he was awarded a Bronze Star. He had been a top-
scoring gunner with the 25mm cannon of the Bradley Fighting Vehicles
used by the U.S. 1st Infantry Division to which he was assigned. He
served at Fort Riley, Kansas, before Operation Desert Storm. At Fort
Riley, McVeigh completed the Primary Leadership Development Course
(PLDC). McVeigh later would say that the Army taught him how to switch
off his emotions.[6] He had special lifesaving training and may have
saved the life of a comrade who had life-threatening shrapnel wounds.
[20]

--
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ipvdBnU8F8
  - KRudd at his finest.

"The Labour Party is corrupt beyond redemption!"
  - Labour hasbeen Mark Latham in a moment of honest clarity.

"This is the recession we had to have!"
  - Paul Keating explaining why he gave Australia another Labour recession.

"Silly old bugger!"
  - Well known ACTU pisspot and sometime Labour prime minister Bob Hawke
responding to a pensioner who dared ask for more.

"By 1990, no child will live in poverty"
  - Bob Hawke again, desperate to win another election.

"A billion trees ..."
  - Borke, pissed as a newt again.

"Well may we say 'God save the Queen' because nothing will save the governor
general!"
  - Egotistical shithead and pompous fuckwit E.G. Whitlam whining about his
appointee for Governor General John Kerr.

"SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU DUMB CUNT!"
  - FlangesBum on learning the truth about Labour's economic capabilities.

"I don't care what you fuckers think!"
  - KRudd the KRude at his finest again.

 He said he was aware that the major had been subject to "name
calling"   during heated arguments with other officers.But once forced
to kill babies for Israel he had no option left but to attack the REAL
terrorists in any way he could

 Maj Hasan's cousin Nader Husan said he was happy working for the
military but did dread deployment to Iraq.Murdering innocent Iraqi
civilians in an ILLEGAL war is a war crime

he simply had NO OTHER LEGAL OPTION

 Mr Hasan said his cousin was a US-born Muslim who had joined the
military after high school. He PLEDGED to defend America from armed
violent terrorists and when put to the test he HAD TO DEFEND AMERICA
from the REAL terrorists

  He had served as a psychiatrist at the Walter Reed Army Medical
Center in Washington DC, which treats many badly wounded troops.

 "He was a psychiatrist at Walter Reed dealing with the people
coming   back and ... trying to help them with their trauma," he said.

 He said his cousin had been transferred to Fort Hood in April
months   ago and was very reluctant to be deployed to Iraq. "We've
known over   the last five years that was probably his worst
nightmare," he said.

 Published: November 5, 2009

  was a United States Army veteran and security guard who was
convicted   of bombing the Alfred P. Murrah Building in Oklahoma City
on April 19,   1995, the second anniversary of the Waco Siege, as
revenge or to  inspire a revolt against what he considered a
tyrannical federal   government.

  The bombing killed 168 people and was the deadliest act of
terrorism   within the United States prior to the September 11, 2001
attacks.[2]

 He was a decorated veteran of the United States Army, having served
in   the Gulf War, where he was awarded a Bronze Star. He had been a
top-   scoring gunner with the 25mm cannon of the Bradley Fighting
Vehicles   used by the U.S. 1st Infantry Division to which he was
assigned. He served at Fort Riley, Kansas, before Operation Desert
Storm. At Fort
 Riley, McVeigh completed the Primary Leadership Development Course
 (PLDC). McVeigh later would say that the Army taught him how to
switch   off his emotions.[6] He had special lifesaving training and
may have   saved the life of a comrade who had life-threatening
shrapnel wounds.
 [20]

 McVeigh wanted to join the United States Army Special Forces. After
returning from the Gulf War, he entered the selection program for
United States Army Special Forces to become a SF soldier , but was
quickly dropped from the program after failing to meet the physical
fitness requirements. Shortly thereafter, McVeigh decided to leave
the   Army. He was discharged on December 31, 1991.[21] McVeigh was
given an   honorable discharge from the Army Reserve in May 1992.
  He was convicted of 11 federal offenses, sentenced to death and
executed on June 11, 2001.

Share
Fort Hood shootings not  first brush with tragedy

05:20 PM CST on Thursday, November 5, 2009

From staff reports

Killeen was the site of one of the nation's most deadly mass
shootings  on Oct. 16, 1991. On that day, George Hennard, 35, slammed
his truck  through the front window of a Luby's Cafeteria in Killeen.

Yelling, "This is what Bell County did to me," he got out of his
truck  and began shooting diners. Within 10 minutes, he had killed 23
people  and wounded more than 20 before committing suicide.

Witnesses said the killer strolled through the cafeteria, randomly
selecting victims.

No motive was ever established.

Reportedly a racist and a misogynist, he wrote to a friend in early
1991: "Please give me the satisfaction of one day laughing in the
face  of all those mostly white treacherous female vipers." After
graduating  from high school, he joined the Navy, then later
transferred to the  Merchant Marine,

Timothy James McVeigh (April 23, 1968 – June 11, 2001)

 was a United States Army veteran and security guard who was
convicted   of bombing the Alfred P. Murrah Building in Oklahoma City
on April 19,  1995, the second anniversary of the Waco Siege, as
revenge or to  inspire a revolt against what he considered a
tyrannical federal  government.

 The bombing killed 168 people and was the deadliest act of terrorism
within the United States prior to the September 11, 2001 attacks.[2]

Military career

In May 1988, McVeigh enlisted in the U.S. Army.[17] He had little
interest in the bar scene, preferring to use his spare time to read
about guns, sniper tactics, or explosives.[18] He once ordered a
"White Power" T-shirt from the KKK in protest against black
servicemen  who wore "Black Power" T-shirts around his army camp [19],
but was  reprimanded.

He was a decorated veteran of the United States Army, having served
in  the Gulf War, where he was awarded a Bronze Star. He had been a
top-  scoring gunner with the 25mm cannon of the Bradley Fighting
Vehicles  used by the U.S. 1st Infantry Division to which he was
assigned. He  served at Fort Riley, Kansas, before Operation Desert
Storm. At Fort  Riley, McVeigh completed the Primary Leadership
Development Course
(PLDC). McVeigh later would say that the Army taught him how to
switch  off his emotions.[6] He had special lifesaving training and
may have  saved the life of a comrade who had life-threatening
shrapnel wounds.
[20]

--
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ipvdBnU8F8
  - KRudd at his finest.

"The Labour Party is corrupt beyond redemption!"
  - Labour hasbeen Mark Latham in a moment of honest clarity.

"This is the recession we had to have!"
  - Paul Keating explaining why he gave Australia another Labour recession.

"Silly old bugger!"
  - Well known ACTU pisspot and sometime Labour prime minister Bob Hawke
responding to a pensioner who dared ask for more.

"By 1990, no child will live in poverty"
  - Bob Hawke again, desperate to win another election.

"A billion trees ..."
  - Borke, pissed as a newt again.

"Well may we say 'God save the Queen' because nothing will save the governor
general!"
  - Egotistical shithead and pompous fuckwit E.G. Whitlam whining about his
appointee for Governor General John Kerr.

"SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU DUMB CUNT!"
  - FlangesBum on learning the truth about Labour's economic capabilities.

"I don't care what you fuckers think!"
  - KRudd the KRude at his finest again.

The Muslim Public Affairs Council, speaking for many American Muslims,
condemned the shootings as a “heinous incident” and said, “We share
the sentiment of our president.”

The men of my own stock
    They may do ill or well,
But they tell the lies I am wonted to,
    They are used to the lies I tell.
And we do not need interpreters
    When we go to buy and sell.

The Stranger within my gates,
    He may be evil or good,
But I cannot tell what powers control —
    What reasons sway his mood;
Nor when the Gods of his far-off land
    Shall repossess his blood.

The men of my own stock,
    Bitter bad they may be,
But, at least, they hear the things I hear,
    And see the things I see;
And whatever I think of them and their likes
    They think of the likes of me.

This was my father's belief
    And this is also mine:
Let the corn be all one sheaf —
    And the grapes be all one vine,
Ere our children's teeth are set on edge
    By bitter bread and wine.

the CIA and MOSSAD should be ashamed of their latest VILE crimes

I dont TRUST anything the yanks say, especially when at war or in a
military incident

MATE we can all READ, we KNOW they wont tell the TRUTH for years and
YEARS

clearly this is another CIA and mossad attempt to SLOW the numbers of
USA soldiers converting to ISLAM

Muslims only need go underground and DONT TELL THEM they are Muslim
when joining the Military like they always used too

WHY tell anybody you are a Muslim , that way its easy to see who the
REAL terrorists are when you see what western soldiers really do to
Muslims its EASY to tell who the REAL terrorists are and gather the
evidence for when the war crimes trials start

GO UNDERGROUND , gather EVIDENCE , time will come when we can arrest
the REAL terrorists

kanga
=====

Like when the Aussie soldiers under ORDERS from John Monash  attacked
the picnic train in Broken Hill in 1915
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Battle_of_Broken_Hill

Some STILL blame a couple of old muslims to HIDE the fact that it was
gun happy Australian soldiers  and/or a black flag recruiting
propaganda exercise
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_MonashMonash recruited tens of
thousands of DUMB aussies from his propaganda attack

Tens of THOUSANDS of DUMB aussies volunteered to DIE for a lie

60,000 DUMB aussies happily DIED for this broken hill LIE, who knows
how many DUMB yanks will happily die for this round of propaganda from
fort Hood

we wont know what really happened at fort Hood for many decades when
the FACTS are declassified

the TRUTH will be manipulated to make Muslims look bad and make
soldiers look good , thats ALWAYS what happens in wars

Spin doctors wont let the TRUTH come out for decades , but the truth
can be FOUND by those who care to look ,the mainstream media ALWAYS
carry the PROPAGANDA and as you say , they ALWAYS get it WRONG, we can
all read history mate , they NEVER EVER tell the truth when at WAR

<Start extract>

The Battle of Broken Hill was a fatal incident which took place near
Broken Hill, New South Wales, Australia on January 1, 1915. Two men
shot dead four people and wounded seven more, before being killed by
police and military officers. While the attack was politically
inspired, as declared by the perpetrators in notes, the men were not
members of any sanctioned armed force. Since, at that time, Australia
was preparing to attack the Ottoman Empire, they were first speculated
to be Turkish, but were later identified as being Muslims from the
British colony of India (modern day Pakistan).[1][2]

The Assailants

The attackers were both former camel-drivers working at Broken Hill.
They were Badsha Mahommed Gool (born approx 1874 [3]), an ice-cream
vendor and Mullah Abdullah (born approx 1854 [4]), a local imam and
halal butcher.

Gool's ice-cream cart was well-known in town and was used to transport
the men to the attack site. They also fashioned a home-made Ottoman
flag which they flew. There appears to have been little effort at
hiding their identities.

Abdullah had arrived in Broken Hill around 1898 and worked as a camel
driver, before becoming a mullah and slaughtering animals according to
halal Islamic rites. Several days before the killings Adbullah was
convicted by Chief Sanitary Inspector Brosnan for slaughtering sheep
on premises not licensed for slaughtering. It was not his first
charge. [5] Considering the slaughter-house unions at that time had
racially discriminatory policies, there was little scope for Abdullah
to legally prepare halal meats for the Muslim community. In addition,
he had ceased wearing his turban years beforehand "since the day some
larrikin threw stones at me, and I did not like it"[6]

Gool lived next door to Mullah Adbullah. Gool was a member of the
Afridi, a Pashtun clan, from Afghanistan. He claimed he had been in
the Turkish Army several times and was believed to regularly smoke
strong marijauna.[7] Police Constable Mills later conjectured that
Gool had used Abdullah's concerns over the fine as leverage to
convince him to take part in the killings.
[edit] The Picnic Train

Each New Year's Day the local lodge of the Manchester Unity Order of
Oddfellows held a picnic at Silverton. The train from Broken Hill to
Silverton was crowded with 1200 picnickers on 40 open trucks. Three
kilometres out of town, Gool and Abdullah positioned themselves on an
embankment about 30 metres from the tracks. As the train passed they
opened fire with two rifles, discharging 20-30 shots.

The crowd originally thought the shots were in honour of the train
passing, but once people started falling the reality sank in.

The railway guard on the train was "Tiger" Dick (Eric Edward) Nyholm,
soon to be a father of six including the late Prof Sir Ronald Nyholm
[8] also of Broken Hill. Nyholm was a renowned marksman, and was
instrumental in protecting the train and its passengers.
[edit] The 'Battle'

Gool and Mulla made their way from the train towards the West Camel
camp where they lived. On the way they murdered Alfred E. Millard who
had taken shelter in his hut. By this time the train had pulled over
at a siding and the police were telephoned. The police contacted
Lieutenant Resch at the local army base who despatched his men. When
police encountered Gool and Abdullah near the Cable Hotel, the pair
shot and wounded Constable Mills. Gool and Abdullah then took shelter
among a white quartz outcrop, which provided good cover. A 90 minute
gun battle followed, during which armed members of the public arrived
to join the police and military. By the end of the battle very little
shooting came from the pair and most was off target, leading Constable
Ward to conclude that Mullah Abdullah was already dead and Gool was
injured.

James Craig (a 69 year old occupant of a house behind the Cable Hotel)
who resisted his daughter's warning about chopping wood during a gun
battle, was hit by a stray bullet and killed. He was the fourth victim
to be killed. The seven wounded were: Mary Kavanagh, George Stokes,
Thomas Campbell, Lucy Shaw (daughter of William), Alma Crocker, Rose
Crabb, Constable Robert Mills. [9]

At "one o'clock a rush took place to the Turks' stronghold" [9] An
eyewitness later stated that Gool had stood with a white rag tied to
his rifle but was cut down by gunfire (he was found with 16 wounds).
The mob would not allow Abdullah's body to be taken away in the
ambulance. Later that day both bodies were disposed of in secret by
the police.
[edit] The Aftermath

The attackers left notes connecting their actions were related to the
hostilities between the Ottoman and British Empires which had been
officially declared in October 1914. Believing he would be killed,
Gool Mahomed left a letter in his waistbelt, which stated that he was
a subject of the Ottoman Sultan and that, "I must kill your men and
give my life for my faith by order of the Sultan."

Mullah Abdullah said in his last letter that he was dying for his
faith and in obedience to the order of the Sultan, "but owing to my
grudge against Chief Sanitary Inspector Brosnan it was my intention to
kill him first. Beyond this there is no enmity against anybody, and we
informed nobody."[10]

Apart from the police were forced to stop a mob from marching on an
Afghani camp the following night, there was no violence against the
Muslim community afterwards. Instead, the actions were seen as
representative of 'enemy aliens' and the Germans in the area were the
focus of violence. Believing the Germans had agitated the assailants
to attack, the local German Club was burnt to ground, the angry mob
cutting the hoses of the firemen who came to fight the flames.

The next day the mines of Broken Hill fired all employees deemed
'enemy aliens' under the 1914 Commonwealth War Precautions Act. Six
Austrians, four Germans and one Turk were ordered out of town by the
public. Shortly after all 'enemy aliens' in Australia were interned
for the duration of the war.[11]

The Silverton Tramway Company refunded in full the fares for the
picnic train and the money was used to launch a public relief fund.