> Shades of Grey objected: > > But you wouldn't know the Whiteman's way is not necessary the right way. > No, of course - living naked in the bush and eating grubs is almost > surely "the right way".
Preferable to your sorry existence any day! And this is why:
Civilisation consist two distincly unique components: external (social/ technological) and internal (social/personal). In your case, I can't say much about the external aspects but the internal ones are real shockers. You are yet to reach the mental development stage of the stone age.
> Sheesh. > Abos beating their wives and children and raping them? > forcing them to behave like savages? > Sheeesh. > You mean give up science, agricutlrure, learning, transport, > domestication, putting food away for winter, government, technology?
Strawmen!
> You really are an idiot.
Pot kettle black
> The sooner this pack of savages ..... > Taking all their children away........
Hey Brainless! Try to stop hating your fellow man just for one day. One day only. You'll be surprised what a difference this makes.
Ördög (The friendly Hungarian Devil in service of aus.politics and Usenet) ## I usually treat pests with pesticide. That goes for the lying rodent too! ##
>> Really? perhaps you might care to explain that to the young Aboriginal >> bloke I took out on work experience last week. Bright chap, he will >> probably be running an IT department within the next 10 years.
> The problem isn't aborigines. The problem is aboriginal culture and > values.
Remember the Bell Curve. There are always individuals who transcend the mob.
Would you believe I once in my youth knew a jew who was as thick as two short planks. It still sticks in my mind as something incongruous. The odd Abo with a brain is still the odd Abo.
If it was just culture and values that kept people down they would improve once the culture was altered...which is what you are saying.
So now take what happened with the Scots after the British almost wiped them from the face of the earth as 'scum'. Even the Romans couldn't cope with them and had to build a wall to keep them out. That's where the word Crackers came from...you were crackers because you were wild and behaved like a Scot. So what Scots were left after Culloden decided to educate their young...that in itself should tell the story of the differences in people... they built universities.
From that time on the Scots improved so much they made a mockery of the British education and bred the brightest kids on earth, who actually changed history with their brains and invented most things you take for granted. That's the difference between Scots and Abo's ...INITIATIVE.
Can you imagine Abo's deciding to build universities to outdo the people who regarded you as scum? How much money has been spent on them since the 1970s and nothing to show for it. They can't even look after a fully stocked cattle station given to them...as if that is like rocket science.
<webbfam...@DIESPAMDIEoptusnet.com.au> wrote: >But for it to be a "moral panic", it must be based upon "false or >exaggerated perception".
>That's the definition *you* gave at the very start.
The perception may indeed be exaggerated (in light of the fact that Radio National seemed to discuss little other than child sexual abuse this morning) but the perception is certainly false because it is misdirected to focus on the child sexual abuse, which statistics reliably show is only 10% of all forms of child abuse.
"Emotional abuse was the most common, accounting for 34 per cent of" "reports, with physical abuse and neglect both at 28 per cent." "Sexual abuse accounted for 10 per cent of claims. " http://www.mako.org.au/ausnews321.html
The Australian Institute of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Studies (AIATSIS) is the world=3Fs premier institution for information and research about the cultures and lifestyles of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples.
The Institute undertakes and encourages scholarly, ethical community- based research, holds a priceless collection of films, photographs, video and audio recordings and the world=3Fs largest collections of printed and other resource materials for Indigenous Studies, and has its own publishing house.
Its activities affirm and raise awareness among all Australians, and people of other nations, of the richness and diversity of Australian Indigenous cultures and histories.
In article <1182852847.180143.183...@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
arthur_bra...@yahoo.co.uk writes... > ..so the Labs (leftoid faction) oblige him, by *not* fighting him on > IR, and let him grab the limelight by this well-timed foray into > aboriginal health issues?
As I explained above, once a moral panic has started it has to run its course. Anyone that gets in its way is trampled underfoot by the howling mob. Rudd knows this. He will go with the flow until the hysteria dies down. Unfortunately that may not be until after the election.
David Moss wrote: > In article <1182852847.180143.183...@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com>, > arthur_bra...@yahoo.co.uk writes...
> > ..so the Labs (leftoid faction) oblige him, by *not* fighting him on > > IR, and let him grab the limelight by this well-timed foray into > > aboriginal health issues?
> As I explained above, once a moral panic has started it has to run its > course.
...except there isn't any "moral panic": nobody actually gives a shit about the aborigines.
> Anyone that gets in its way is trampled underfoot by the howling > mob.
The only "howling mob" is the Labor Party (Leftoid faction) usual suspects who crapped on about illegal immigrants, David Hicks, and other irrelevant distractions, who are now deeply confused in their response to Howard's aboriginal health initiative.
> Rudd knows this. He will go with the flow until the hysteria dies > down.
Yes, that's what I keep getting told - he's biding his time. He's not going to let Howard force his hand. He has some great material up his sleeve.
We'll see.
> Unfortunately that may not be until after the election.
Beazley seemed to WANT to lose, I'm yet to be convinced that Rudd has any winning spirit.
1. This was not built by Aborigines. ("The Institute commenced in 1961 with an interim Council. An Act of Parliament in 1964 established the Australian Institute of Aboriginal Studies (AIAS), with a 22-member, non-Indigenous academic Council ")
2. Its not a University.
3. The only thing that is studied there is aboriginal culture. You will note in comparison that Sydney University (for example) researches more than just the history and culture of Sydney.
> On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 00:59:57 +1000, "Peter Webb" > <webbfam...@DIESPAMDIEoptusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>But for it to be a "moral panic", it must be based upon "false or >>exaggerated perception".
>>That's the definition *you* gave at the very start.
> The perception may indeed be exaggerated (in light of the fact that > Radio National seemed to discuss little other than child sexual abuse > this morning) but the perception is certainly false because it is > misdirected to focus on the child sexual abuse, which statistics > reliably show is only 10% of all forms of child abuse.
> "Emotional abuse was the most common, accounting for 34 per cent of" > "reports, with physical abuse and neglect both at 28 per cent." > "Sexual abuse accounted for 10 per cent of claims. " > http://www.mako.org.au/ausnews321.html
Well, I was certainly aware that physical abuse and neglect are more common than sexual abuse.
Who exactly has the false perception that more aboriginal children are raped than simply neglected?
> The only "howling mob" is the Labor Party (Leftoid faction) usual > suspects who crapped on about illegal immigrants, David Hicks, and > other irrelevant distractions, who are now deeply confused in their > response to Howard's aboriginal health initiative.
Particularly the State Governments. One of their complaints is that it is a "grab for power by Canberra", which is an acknowledgement that under the Constitution the States are responsible for aboriginal health and well-being.
Their complaint is not that Howard is trying to solve the problem, but rather that it is State responsibility and the Federal Government shouldn't be acting at all.
Now, why do you think that Alan Carpentar in WA is foaming at the mouth about a Commonwealth government initiative to improve aboriginal health in the NT? Any guesses? Could Carpenter's entry into the debate be more about politics than about aboriginal health in the NT?
> On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 13:11:00 +1000, "Peter Webb" > <webbfam...@DIESPAMDIEoptusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>Who exactly has the false perception that more aboriginal children are >>raped >>than simply neglected?
> All those who still believe the prime minister and heard him wailing > at length about the children being degraded by sexual abuse.
Why do you think this is true? Who have you heard say that more aboriginal children are raped than simply neglected? I haven't heard anyone, anywhere claim this; if its a "panic", its a remarkably small and quiet one.
Perhaps if you posted a single link that showed that somebody, somewhere believes that the incidence of rape amongst aboriginal children is higher than the rate of neglect, you would have a start - one person in a "moral panic". So, any evidence, or just some more of your bullshit? ....
> The Australian Institute of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander > Studies (AIATSIS) is the world=3Fs premier institution for information and > research about the cultures and lifestyles of Aboriginal and Torres > Strait Islander peoples.
> The Institute undertakes and encourages scholarly, ethical community- > based research, holds a priceless collection of films, photographs, > video and audio recordings and the world=3Fs largest collections of > printed and other resource materials for Indigenous Studies, and has its > own publishing house.
> Its activities affirm and raise awareness among all Australians, and > people of other nations, of the richness and diversity of Australian > Indigenous cultures and histories.
Precisely. That's what I meant about the difference between Scots and Abo's. The Scots actually DO things that are clever.
Your precious mob sit around on their arses talking and getting pissed at taxpayers expense and get queer social studies creeps to write and make doco's about their 'achievement's....40,000 years to design a friggin boomerang.
'Raising awareness of the richness and diversity ' is queer talk at taxpayers expense for the useless bastards.
On Jun 26, 1:33 pm, David Moss <q0320...@mail.connect.usq.edu.au> wrote:
> A moral panic is a reaction by a group of people based on the false or > exaggerated perception that some cultural behavior or group, frequently > a minority group or a subculture, is dangerously deviant and poses a > menace to society. (Wikipedia)
While this definition is broadly workable, I'd like to make a couple of observations.
The 'menace to society' component is key. The threat posed by the deviant behaviour is existential. If it is not squashed, it's 'the end of society as we know it', or at the very least, that possibility looms. That's why so many moral panics focus on threats to or from children: drugs, neglect, physical or sexual abuse (typically as victims but sometimes as perpetrators) crime (typically as perpetrators), anomie, apathy and so forth.
Others not involving children over the years have included witches, apostates, anarchists, communists, feminists, euthanasia advocates (especially doctors), homosexuals, rival ethnic/religious groups (especially if they are visibly different in skin colour), sects and most recently terrorists.
If someone can roll two or three of these into one fear, then the resulting panic shines far more brightly.
Thus, a sect composed ostensibly of child abusing left-leaning, greeny, dark-skinned, lesbian feminists who believed in reaching enlightenment through resort to MDMA and devil worship, paid for by sending out groups of kids to mug little old ladies would be just brilliant.
Sadly, it seems that if there are such people about, they aren't in the ALP, which from a coalition POV, is a pity.
What seems to be happening in the case of the Federal government is the next best thing. They are mobilising the traditional sources of moral panic -- (see "children" and "rival ethnicities" and "sects" above) to wedge the ALP -- who will be forced to choose between accepting the charge of going easy on paedophiles and showing racist indifference to the welfare of aboriginals (especially their Hobbesian children) and backing what could, in short order, become a reversion to the old assimilationist policies of the middle of the last century. Worst of all, they are forced to make this choice with precious little detail about who the whole thing will play out, and the deep suspicion that nothing but a media managed sideshow will take place this side of the election.
In that sense, this latest maneouvre surely recalls the way Menzies managed the lead into the Petrov campaign of 1954, in which communist espionage was adduced, and the election called before any concrete examination of the claims could be undertaken. While the government was returned (narrowly, and on the back of some severe malapportionment) this led to the DLP split, and the route of the ALP in 1955 which was instrumental in keeping them from power for nearly a generation.
Divisions within the ALP over this are nothing like those between the Groupers and Evattistas of course, but on a smaller scale, it's hard not to miss the parallels.
On this occasion, Rudd has a better hand. He can declare bipartisanship, and allow the regional players on the ground to point to problems when they arise, as they surely will.
Strictly speaking though, the Aboriginal question posed here doesn't constitute the stirring up of a moral panic, in the way that 9/11 or Tampa did, as the threat really isn't existential.
> Moral panics are a product of mass media. > The media reports a statement or an event which generates a lot of > public interest. The population become concerned about the situation and > want to know more about it. The media responds by deliberately seeking > out stories on the topic. This makes it appear the event is occurring > more and more frequently. The situation rapidly spirals out of control > as the new stories reinforce public concern, the public demands more > information and the media goes all out to deliver stories that meet the > demand.
> Moral panic is a tool of trade for politicians. It is rumoured some > political organisations have pre-packaged moral panics ready in case the > opportunity arises where they can be used. Moral panics can be used to > distract the public from an unpopular policy, to take media attention > away from a successful opponent, or to manufacture an issue the > politician for which the politician has a pre-arranged campaign > strategy.
> The recent media attention to illegal immigrants, weapons of mass > destruction, terrorism and indigenous child abuse are examples of moral > panics.
> A moral panic is a form of mass hysteria. It differs in that moral panic > is usually expressed as outrage rather than fear. Politically this is > very useful because outrage lasts longer than fear and is more easily > directed against opponents.
> In particular, outrage implies a moral decision the person is forced to > justify even after it has become apparent the initial perception of > threat is unjustified. The outrage takes on a life of its own and > continues to motivate the person even after the initial fear is found to > be groundless.
> The most recent example of this is the moral panic over weapons of mass > destruction that led to the invasion of Iraq.
> We are currently in the throes of another moral panic, this time centred > on indigenous child abuse.
> Rationality can do nothing to prevent this panic from running its > course. Once a moral panic has begun it takes on a life of its own. It > is unstoppable once underway.
> All we can do is recognise the process and take it into account in our > own thinking.
> Hopefully enough people will keep cool heads during the panic to steer > the situation toward an desirable and achievable outcome.
> The politicians who started the panic hope to surf the wave of public > opinion to electoral success later this year. are they skillful enough > to stay on their boards, or of they will be displaced by more skillful > surfers.
> We can only hope the less fortunate members of our society, those in the > bottom socioeconomic levels, are not too badly injured as they are > scraped across the moral coral in the backwash.
> David Moss wrote: > > In article <1182852847.180143.183...@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com>, > > arthur_bra...@yahoo.co.uk writes...
> > > ..so the Labs (leftoid faction) oblige him, by *not* fighting him on > > > IR, and let him grab the limelight by this well-timed foray into > > > aboriginal health issues?
> > As I explained above, once a moral panic has started it has to run its > > course.
> ...except there isn't any "moral panic": nobody actually gives a shit > about the aborigines.
Short attention span? Don't worry Arthur, I'll help you out by repeating the opening paragraph of the thread:
A moral panic is a reaction by a group of people based on the false or exaggerated perception that some cultural behavior or group, frequently a minority group or a subculture, is dangerously deviant and poses a menace to society. (Wikipedia)
> > Anyone that gets in its way is trampled underfoot by the howling > > mob.
> The only "howling mob" is the Labor Party (Leftoid faction) usual > suspects who crapped on about illegal immigrants, David Hicks, and > other irrelevant distractions, who are now deeply confused in their > response to Howard's aboriginal health initiative.
Me? A member of the Labor Party? Not many Labor Party members have a "Victory 96" medal from the Libs, as well as signed autobiographies with personal messages from both John Howard and Tim Fischer on their shelf. In fact I'd hazard a guess that the current number is zero.
> > Rudd knows this. He will go with the flow until the hysteria dies > > down.
> Yes, that's what I keep getting told - he's biding his time. He's not > going to let Howard force his hand. He has some great material up his > sleeve.
> We'll see.
I'm waiting to see what Rudd has in the policy store too, but I'm certain he is too smart to stand in the path of a moral panic.
> > Unfortunately that may not be until after the election.
> Beazley seemed to WANT to lose, I'm yet to be convinced that Rudd has > any winning spirit.
Last time around it was Latham. Latham clearly wasn't up to it. Assaulting the taxi driver should have been a warning, but he was mates with Whitlam and thats like a warrant from God in the ALP.
We can only hope that if Labor does win the loopy Aboriginal sovereignty policies of Keating are buried so deep in the political debris they are lost forever.
> "David Moss" <q0320...@mail.connect.usq.edu.au> wrote in message > news:MPG.20ec5396c56a40cb98a82c@news.bigpond.com... > > The Australian Institute of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander > > Studies (AIATSIS) is the world=3Fs premier institution for information and > > research about the cultures and lifestyles of Aboriginal and Torres > > Strait Islander peoples.
> > The Institute undertakes and encourages scholarly, ethical community- > > based research, holds a priceless collection of films, photographs, > > video and audio recordings and the world=3Fs largest collections of > > printed and other resource materials for Indigenous Studies, and has its > > own publishing house.
> > Its activities affirm and raise awareness among all Australians, and > > people of other nations, of the richness and diversity of Australian > > Indigenous cultures and histories.
> Precisely. That's what I meant about the difference between Scots and > Abo's. The Scots actually DO things that are clever.
> Your precious mob sit around on their arses talking and getting pissed at > taxpayers expense and get queer social studies creeps to write and make > doco's about their 'achievement's....40,000 years to design a friggin > boomerang.
> 'Raising awareness of the richness and diversity ' is queer talk at > taxpayers expense for the useless bastards.
My precious mob includes quite a few Scottish ancestors. You clearly haven't been on the piss with any Scotsmen. They make most Aborigines look like wowsers when it comes to hard drinking.
As to whether or not AIATSIS is worthwhile, it probably depends on whether or not you are a Philistine.
In article <1182898580.808487.13...@a26g2000pre.googlegroups.com>,
arthur_bra...@yahoo.co.uk writes... > Shades of Grey wrote: > > Good one Stan, it is indeed a find example of ignorance, bigotry and racism! > > But you wouldn't know the Whiteman's way is not necessary the right way.
> No, of course - living naked in the bush and eating grubs is almost > surely "the right way".
I'm starting to wonder if you have ever actually met an Aborigine.
<webbfam...@DIESPAMDIEoptusnet.com.au> wrote: >Who have you heard say that more aboriginal >children are raped than simply neglected? I haven't heard anyone, anywhere >claim this;
We were discussing perceptions, not provable facts. Nobody need say "more aboriginal children are raped than simply neglected" for that very perception to be created by the media and speechmaking politicians spending far more time on that subject than it warrants.
> if its a "panic", its a remarkably small and quiet one.
Well, it was your favourite lying rodent who declared it to be national emergency (which it obviously is not), so perhaps the real panic only exists in his mind and amongst his closest advisors.
David Moss wrote: > In article <1182898580.808487.13...@a26g2000pre.googlegroups.com>, > arthur_bra...@yahoo.co.uk writes...
> > Shades of Grey wrote: > > > Good one Stan, it is indeed a find example of ignorance, bigotry and racism! > > > But you wouldn't know the Whiteman's way is not necessary the right way.
> > No, of course - living naked in the bush and eating grubs is almost > > surely "the right way".
> I'm starting to wonder if you have ever actually met an Aborigine.
The aborigines where I live are uncannily like normal people: they live in houses, they drive cars, they go to the shops, some of them work and some of them don't, and when we have a barbie it's steak, chops and VB.
There are other blow-in aborigines not too far away who blight the public land in front of Old Parliament House with bomby cars, tents, rubbish, insulting placards and fires and who are obviously demented fuckwits.
So when I see "the Whiteman's way is not necessary the right way" in a post, I can be pretty sure we're dealing with a lunatic, divorced from reality.
> In article <1182908040.395081.195...@o11g2000prd.googlegroups.com>, > arthur_bra...@yahoo.co.uk writes...
>> David Moss wrote: >> > In article <1182852847.180143.183...@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com>, >> > arthur_bra...@yahoo.co.uk writes...
>> > > ..so the Labs (leftoid faction) oblige him, by *not* fighting him on >> > > IR, and let him grab the limelight by this well-timed foray into >> > > aboriginal health issues?
>> > As I explained above, once a moral panic has started it has to run its >> > course.
>> ...except there isn't any "moral panic": nobody actually gives a shit >> about the aborigines.
> Short attention span? Don't worry Arthur, I'll help you out by repeating > the opening paragraph of the thread:
> A moral panic is a reaction by a group of people based on the false or > exaggerated perception that some cultural behavior or group, frequently > a minority group or a subculture, is dangerously deviant and poses a > menace to society. (Wikipedia)
Yes, but you still haven't identified the group of people that have a false or exaggerated perception of the menace caused by aboriginal child sex abuse.
> On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 14:58:12 +1000, "Peter Webb" > <webbfam...@DIESPAMDIEoptusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>Who have you heard say that more aboriginal >>children are raped than simply neglected? I haven't heard anyone, anywhere >>claim this;
> We were discussing perceptions, not provable facts. Nobody need say > "more aboriginal children are raped than simply neglected" for that > very perception to be created by the media and speechmaking > politicians spending far more time on that subject than it warrants.
Indeed not. But who holds this perception, exactly? Can you name anyone at all? Even one person?
>> if its a "panic", its a remarkably small and quiet one.
> Well, it was your favourite lying rodent who declared it to be > national emergency (which it obviously is not), so perhaps the real > panic only exists in his mind and amongst his closest advisors.
Peter Webb wrote: > "Doc" <d...@qld.gov.au> wrote in message > news:nva483978r1r8u2438o8fupmm5jekvfkuo@4ax.com... > > On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 14:58:12 +1000, "Peter Webb" > > <webbfam...@DIESPAMDIEoptusnet.com.au> wrote:
> >>Who have you heard say that more aboriginal > >>children are raped than simply neglected? I haven't heard anyone, anywhere > >>claim this;
> > We were discussing perceptions, not provable facts. Nobody need say > > "more aboriginal children are raped than simply neglected" for that > > very perception to be created by the media and speechmaking > > politicians spending far more time on that subject than it warrants.
> Indeed not. But who holds this perception, exactly? Can you name anyone at > all? Even one person?
> >> if its a "panic", its a remarkably small and quiet one.
> > Well, it was your favourite lying rodent who declared it to be > > national emergency (which it obviously is not), so perhaps the real > > panic only exists in his mind and amongst his closest advisors.
> "emergency" and "panic" are two different words.
My 8-year-old is still up, so I gave her this question as a quick bed- time assignment.
She tells me:
"EMERGENCY" is "a situation that needs quick action"
AND
"PANIC" is "a sudden feeling of fear"
I am therefore much reassured that MY 8-YEAR-OLD HAS A BETTER GRASP ON REALITY THAN THE FUCKWIT HICKS-LOVING LEFTOIDS IN THIS GROUP.
Peter Webb wrote: > "David Moss" <q0320...@mail.connect.usq.edu.au> wrote in message > news:MPG.20ecc129691932c098a833@news.bigpond.com... > > A moral panic is a reaction by a group of people based on the false or > > exaggerated perception that some cultural behavior or group, frequently > > a minority group or a subculture, is dangerously deviant and poses a > > menace to society. (Wikipedia) > Yes, but you still haven't identified the group of people that have a false > or exaggerated perception of the menace caused by aboriginal child sex > abuse.
I doubt very much whether fear is in any way compatible with the evident triumphalism of the Libs as they yet again put one over the Labs.
Howard's "take-over" is not a panic of any description, it's a coup.
It's the Labs that are panicking. As they well should. Clueless idiots. They need to stop sucking up to the big end of town and represent aussie workers.
> Sure, there is no social breakdown on Abo communities, it's all a furphy > conjured up for political reasons. So everything is alright then.
That certainly was Howard's reaction for the past decade!
Now there is an election he has stopped ignoring the indigenous communities and the NT government who BEGGED for his help to curb child abuse.
> Go tell all the bleeding hearts who demand more 'resouces' ( money) be > spent on them.
Farmers and Miners? Just their Fuel excise exemptions put MORE money in their pockets than the ENTIRE ATSIC budget for indigenous health, housing, education, and welfare! B^p
The thing about tory welfare is that it's only for the well off.
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Mr Howard has moved quickly to announce action after receiving, on Friday, the report of his government-business taskgroup on emissions trading. He said the Government would next year — the timing recommended by the group — set a long-term "aspirational goal" for emissions reduction.
That's Howard 'moving quickly'? B^D Announcing that he will set an 'aspirational goal' ..next YEAR! 8^o
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"After a successful few years as a junior minister in Malcolm Fraser's government, Howard was promoted to treasury, where his five years in the job can only be judged as an unmitigated failure. Take a look at the statistics.
When Howard left the treasury in March 1983, the budget deficit was forecast at $9.6 billion, inflation was 11 per cent, unemployment was 10.2 per cent, the economy was in recession with negative 0.4 per cent growth, and housing interest rates were 13 per cent.
And, despite the 1982-83 recession being the worst since the Great Depression, Howard still managed to increase the federal tax take from 25.1 per cent of GDP in 1977 to 27.5 per cent of GDP by 1982-83.
Howard then spent 13 years in opposition, during which - when he wasn't leader himself - he spent a lot of time conspiring against the three leaders he served under: Andrew Peacock, John Hewson and Alexander Downer."
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"THE polls show John Howard is likely to be beaten by Labor, now under its sharpest leader in a decade. Facing defeat, the Prime Minister yesterday changed not only his team but its tone." -Andrew Bolt 24/1/2007
Fraser accuses current PM of marginalising Muslims"
"I believe that this is divisive, dangerous and false."
"Mr Fraser said the Government was gearing up for what he called a Muslim election next year.
- Malcolm Fraser ABC 2/11/2006
Every election, Howard creates DIVISION for a DIVERSION.
"We swear by the Southern Cross to stand truly by each other and fight to defend our rights and liberties." - Eureka Oath
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The Official [Est. June 2000] aus.culture.true-blue FAQ ;
David Moss wrote: > In article <NDmgi.332$iq2....@news-server.bigpond.net.au>, > ecre...@bigpond.net.au writes...
>> "David Moss" <q0320...@mail.connect.usq.edu.au> wrote in message >> news:MPG.20ec5396c56a40cb98a82c@news.bigpond.com... >>> The Australian Institute of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander >>> Studies (AIATSIS) is the world=3Fs premier institution for information and >>> research about the cultures and lifestyles of Aboriginal and Torres >>> Strait Islander peoples.
>>> The Institute undertakes and encourages scholarly, ethical community- >>> based research, holds a priceless collection of films, photographs, >>> video and audio recordings and the world=3Fs largest collections of >>> printed and other resource materials for Indigenous Studies, and has its >>> own publishing house.
>>> Its activities affirm and raise awareness among all Australians, and >>> people of other nations, of the richness and diversity of Australian >>> Indigenous cultures and histories.
>> Precisely. That's what I meant about the difference between Scots and >> Abo's. The Scots actually DO things that are clever.
>> Your precious mob sit around on their arses talking and getting pissed at >> taxpayers expense and get queer social studies creeps to write and make >> doco's about their 'achievement's....40,000 years to design a friggin >> boomerang.
>> 'Raising awareness of the richness and diversity ' is queer talk at >> taxpayers expense for the useless bastards.
> My precious mob includes quite a few Scottish ancestors. You clearly > haven't been on the piss with any Scotsmen. They make most Aborigines > look like wowsers when it comes to hard drinking.
> As to whether or not AIATSIS is worthwhile, it probably depends on > whether or not you are a Philistine.
David Moss wrote: > In article <1182898580.808487.13...@a26g2000pre.googlegroups.com>, > arthur_bra...@yahoo.co.uk writes...
>> Shades of Grey wrote: >>> Good one Stan, it is indeed a find example of ignorance, bigotry and racism! >>> But you wouldn't know the Whiteman's way is not necessary the right way. >> No, of course - living naked in the bush and eating grubs is almost >> surely "the right way".
> I'm starting to wonder if you have ever actually met an Aborigine.
I did a job for one, not many in my area, he was the park ranger over barmah, nicest bloke you would ever meet. Then again I did jobs just out of that area and it was like a scene out of mad max, cars on their sides, ect. Honestly I think it is more a lack of respect for us. Mick C
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