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cornholio  
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From: cornholio <andxor...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 07:31:01 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Nov 6 2009 2:31 am
Subject: Re: Wilders: "we are all Israel"
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From: Saracene <john....@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 08:51:29 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Nov 6 2009 3:51 am
Subject: Re: Wilders: "we are all Israel"
Echoes of 'We are all German Jews'. slogan of revolutionaryFrench
students in 1968, supporting Dany le Rouge, the flame haired
firebrand.

http://www.bopsecrets.org/CF/graffiti.htm

Knowing what we now know he might not appear too savoury a role model.

http://synonblog.dailymail.co.uk/2009/04/dany-the-zip.html

"t was Ganley who offered illumination in the debate. He produced a
book Cohn-Bendit had published in 1975, and read out Cohn-Bendit's
account from it of how  he had worked in a kindergarten and allowed
the children to pull down the zip on his trousers and touch his penis.
In the book, he said he had asked them why they did not play with each
other -- but in the end he 'caressed' them, too.

At that, Dany put on a performance of glee, whooping that he had just
won €500 because he had bet someone that Ganley would read that out.
When Cohn-Bendit's younger supporters in the room did not give him
quite the round of applause he seemed to be looking for with that
reply, he changed tack and insisted that all this in the book had been
discussed in France and Germany years ago and had never raised any
concerns. Indeed, he said, the parents of the children said they had
no concerns.

 'And the children, what did they say?' asked Ganley.  The Red assured
him and the audience that years later they had all said their time at
the school was extremely happy. And then he went on about how the
times were different then."


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From: "mose" <m...@capp.com>
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:16:15 GMT
Local: Fri, Nov 6 2009 6:16 am
Subject: Re: Wilders: "we are all Israel"

"cornholio" <andxor...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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On Nov 5, 3:57 am, "Heinrich" <Heinr...@Ruhrgasnet.de> wrote:

> October was a tumultuous time for Geert Wilders, leader of the Dutch
> Freedom
> Party (PVV) in the Hague Parliament. Dutch public opinion polls show
> Wilders
> and the PVV in the lead position in any future Parliamentary election. The
> PVV is currently the leading Dutch party in the European Parliament. After
> the next elections, Wilders might be in a position to form a ruling
> coalition in Holland as Prime Minister. What sets Wilders apart from most
> EU
> political leaders is his ringing support of America and Israel. He
> considers
> Israel's embattled position in the Middle East as fighting for all of us.
> As
> he says in his speeches: "we all are Israel."

SO WHAT IS HE? JEWISH? YOU MEAN THE PRICKS THAT TUN DOWN UNARMED GIRLS AND
SPECIALIZE IN SHOOTING AND BOMBING WOMEN AND CHILDREN.
ANDDOES THIS IDIOT BACK THE SHILD PORN ANDUSE OF NON JEWISH SEX SLAVES.
SI WHAT IS THE PRICK JEWISH? OR A TRAITOR TO ALL NON JEWS? ANOTHER JUDAS
GOAT?

NOT ONE GAME IN FRANCE OR AMERICA - THANK CHRIST FOR ITALY.

FRANCE AND AMERICA, COULD HAVE A JEW/ZIONIST/ISRAELI  UP EM SINGING
HALLELUJA IN THEIR RIGHT EAR AND RING A SCHOOL BELL IN THEIR LEFT EAR AND
THEY WOULD BE STANDING THERE SAYING WHAT JEW.

AND APPARENTLY THEY WOUKD NOT KNOW THAT THERE WAS A JEW UP EM SINGING
HALLELUJA IN THEIR RIGHT EAR AND RINGING A SCHOOL BELL IN THE LEFT THEY ARE
SO TAMED AND BRAIN WASHED.

Jewish officials in a major Italian news agency tried to cover the story up,
but were circumvented by Italian news reporters, who broadcast scenes from
the films live at prime time on Italian television to more than 11 million
Italian viewers. Jewish officials then fired the executives responsible,
claiming they were spreading "blood libel."
http://www.ety.com/HRP/jewishstudies/snuffporn.htm

Jewish gangsters in Russia have become increasingly linked to traffic in
"white slaves" and prostitutes through Israel, according to a recent report
in the Jerusalem Post. Israel turns an official blind eye to forced
prostitution, and does not punish Israeli citizens who choose to own "sex
slaves", as long as the slaves are foreign and non-Jews.

MAKES YOU PUKE DOESNT IT.

Was it fair to arrest him at 76, they, and imean the zionist/jewish/israeli
clique have their bully boys in France beating up80 year old historians and
then jailing them for simply doing their job of examining history and the
holocaust.
http://www.codoh.com/thoughtcrimes/thoughtcrimes.html
http://forums.myspace.com/t/3824331.aspx?fuseaction=forums.viewthread

JEWISH BULLYBOYS BEATING UP HISTORIANS AND THE FRENCH ARE PANICKED ABOUT A
PAEDO RAPIST BEING ARRESTED? THEY OUGHT TO GET OF THEIR KEISTER AND CHECK
OUT WHO IS BEATING UP 80 YEAR OLDS.

Sees nothing wrong with The following.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tW1-_JmXQt0&feature=related
And like the criminals in israel is always sorry. Oh they deeply regret it,
just ask any one of them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xl4nWHwoMOw&feature=related

HOW WONDERFUL FOR HOLLAND. NOW THEY CAN PREPARE FOR THE IMMIGRANTS.

Yeah well don't blame police, DEFENCE PERSONNEL,CIVILIAN AUTHORITIES , they
are just doing their job.

 ABOUT TIME YOU SORTED THE SHEEP FROM THE GOATS AND USED YOUR VOTE.

U NO WHAT U R SO DONT VOTE AGAINST YOURSELF. VOTE FOR YOUR BEST INTERESTS
AND TO DO THAT

U HAVE TO NO WHAT U R..AND WHAT  THE PERSON U R VOTING FOR IS andwhat he
believes in.

HIS RELIGION MIGHT HEAVILY INFLUENCE HIS DECISIONS.

.LETS NOT BE AS TRUSTING ASWE HAVE BEEN IN THE PAST.

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Immigration: The Full Story of the Immigrants Who Opened the
Floodgates

The Culture of Critique reviewed by Stanley Hornbeck

In The Culture of Critique, Evolutionary Psychologist Professor Kevin
MacDonald advances a carefully researched but extremely controversial
thesis: that certain 20th century intellectual movements - largely
established and led by Jews - have changed European societies in
fundamental ways and destroyed the confidence of Western man. He
claims that these movements were designed, consciously or
unconsciously, to advance Jewish interests even though they were
presented to non-Jews as universalistic and even utopian. He concludes
that the increasing dominance of these ideas has had profound
political and social consequences that benefited Jews but caused great
harm to gentile societies. This analysis, which he makes with
considerable force, is an unusual indictment of a people generally
thought to be more sinned against than sinning.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Culture_of_Critique_series

http://www.csulb.edu/~kmacd/books.htm

http://www.kevinmacdonald.net/PrefacePPB.pdf

The Culture of Critique is the final title in Prof. MacDonald's
massive, three-volume study of Jews and their role in history. The two
previous volumes are A People That Shall Dwell Alone and Separation
and its Discontents, published by Praeger in 1994 and 1998. The series
is written from a sociobiological perspective that views Judaism as a
unique survival strategy that helps Jews compete with other ethnic
groups. Prof. MacDonald, who is a psychologist at the University of
California at Long Beach, explains this perspective in the first
volume, which describes Jews as having a very powerful sense of
uniqueness that has kept them socially and genetically separate from
other peoples. The second volume traces the history of Jewish-gentile
relations, and finds the causes of anti-Semitism primarily in the
almost invariable commercial and intellectual dominance of gentile
societies by Jews and in their refusal to assimilate. The Culture of
Critique brings his analysis into the present century, with an account
of the Jewish role in the radical critique of traditional culture.

The intellectual movements Prof. MacDonald discusses in this volume
are Marxism, Freudian psychoanalysis, the Frankfurt school of
sociology, and Boasian anthropology. Perhaps most relevant from a
racial perspective, he also traces the role of Jews in promoting multi-
culturalism and Third World immigration. Throughout his analysis Prof.
MacDonald reiterates his view that Jews have promoted these movements
as Jews and in the interests of Jews, though they have often tried to
give the impression that they had no distinctive interests of their
own. Therefore Prof. MacDonald's most profound charge against Jews is
not ethnocentrism but dishonesty - that while claiming to be working
for the good of mankind they have often worked for their own good and
to the detriment of others. While attempting to promote the
brotherhood of man by dissolving the ethnic identification of
gentiles, Jews have maintained precisely the kind of intense group
solidarity they decry as immoral in others.

Celebrating Diversity

Prof. MacDonald claims that one of the most consistent ways in which
Jews have advanced their interests has been to promote pluralism and
diversity - but only for others. Ever since the 19th century, they
have led movements that tried to discredit the traditional foundations
of gentile society: patriotism, racial loyalty, the Christian basis
for morality, social homogeneity, and sexual restraint. At the same
time, within their own communities, and with regard to the state of
Israel, they have often supported the very institutions they attack in
gentile society.

Why is this in the interests of Jews? Because the parochial group
loyalty characteristic of Jews attracts far less attention in a
society that does not have a cohesive racial and cultural core. The
Jewish determination not to assimilate fully, which accounts for their
survival as a people for thousands for years - even without a country
- has invariably attracted unpleasant and even murderous scrutiny in
nations with well -defined national identities. In Prof. MacDonald's
view it is therefore in the interest of Jews to dilute and weaken the
identity of any people among whom they live. Jewish identity can
flower in safety only when gentile identity is weak.

Prof. MacDonald quotes a remarkable passage from Charles Silberman:
"American Jews are committed to cultural tolerance because of their
belief - one firmly rooted in history - that Jews are safe only in a
society acceptant of a wide range of attitudes and behaviors, as well
as a diversity of religious and ethnic groups. It is this belief, for
example, not approval of homosexuality, that leads an overwhelming
majority of American Jews to endorse 'gay rights' and to take a
liberal stance on most other so-called 'social' issues."

He is saying, in effect, that when Jews make the diversity-is-our-
strength argument it is in support of their real goal of diluting a
society's homogeneity so that Jews will feel safe. They are couching a
Jewish agenda in terms they think gentiles will accept. Likewise, as
the second part of the Silberman quotation suggests, Jews may support
deviant movements, not because they think it is good for the country
but because it is good for the Jews.

Prof. Silberman also provides an illuminating quote from a Jewish
economist who thought that republicans had more sensible economic
policies but who voted for the Democratic presidential candidate
anyway. His reason? "I'd rather live in a country governed by the
faces I saw at the Democratic convention than those I saw at the
Republican convention." This man apparently distrusts white gentiles
and voted for a racially mixed party even if its economic policies
were wrong. What is good for Jews appears to come before what is good
for the country.

Earl Raab, former president of heavily Jewish Brandeis University
makes the diversity argument in a slightly different way. Expressing
his satisfaction with the ...

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From: "mose" <m...@capp.com>
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:17:57 GMT
Local: Fri, Nov 6 2009 6:17 am
Subject: Re: Wilders: "we are all Israel"

"cornholio" <andxor...@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:123bdabc-a76f-4774-bb74-74aecba90168@37g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
On Nov 5, 3:57 am, "Heinrich" <Heinr...@Ruhrgasnet.de> wrote:

> October was a tumultuous time for Geert Wilders, leader of the Dutch
> Freedom
> Party (PVV) in the Hague Parliament. Dutch public opinion polls show
> Wilders
> and the PVV in the lead position in any future Parliamentary election. The
> PVV is currently the leading Dutch party in the European Parliament. After
> the next elections, Wilders might be in a position to form a ruling
> coalition in Holland as Prime Minister. What sets Wilders apart from most
> EU
> political leaders is his ringing support of America and Israel. He
> considers
> Israel's embattled position in the Middle East as fighting for all of us.
> As
> he says in his speeches: "we all are Israel."

SO WHAT IS HE? JEWISH? YOU MEAN THE PRICKS THAT TUN DOWN UNARMED GIRLS AND
SPECIALIZE IN SHOOTING AND BOMBING WOMEN AND CHILDREN.
ANDDOES THIS IDIOT BACK THE SHILD PORN ANDUSE OF NON JEWISH SEX SLAVES.
SI WHAT IS THE PRICK JEWISH? OR A TRAITOR TO ALL NON JEWS? ANOTHER JUDAS
GOAT?

NOT ONE GAME IN FRANCE OR AMERICA - THANK CHRIST FOR ITALY.

FRANCE AND AMERICA, COULD HAVE A JEW/ZIONIST/ISRAELI  UP EM SINGING
HALLELUJA IN THEIR RIGHT EAR AND RING A SCHOOL BELL IN THEIR LEFT EAR AND
THEY WOULD BE STANDING THERE SAYING WHAT JEW.

AND APPARENTLY THEY WOUKD NOT KNOW THAT THERE WAS A JEW UP EM SINGING
HALLELUJA IN THEIR RIGHT EAR AND RINGING A SCHOOL BELL IN THE LEFT THEY ARE
SO TAMED AND BRAIN WASHED.

Jewish officials in a major Italian news agency tried to cover the story up,
but were circumvented by Italian news reporters, who broadcast scenes from
the films live at prime time on Italian television to more than 11 million
Italian viewers. Jewish officials then fired the executives responsible,
claiming they were spreading "blood libel."
http://www.ety.com/HRP/jewishstudies/snuffporn.htm

Jewish gangsters in Russia have become increasingly linked to traffic in
"white slaves" and prostitutes through Israel, according to a recent report
in the Jerusalem Post. Israel turns an official blind eye to forced
prostitution, and does not punish Israeli citizens who choose to own "sex
slaves", as long as the slaves are foreign and non-Jews.

MAKES YOU PUKE DOESNT IT.

Was it fair to arrest him at 76, they, and imean the zionist/jewish/israeli
clique have their bully boys in France beating up80 year old historians and
then jailing them for simply doing their job of examining history and the
holocaust.
http://www.codoh.com/thoughtcrimes/thoughtcrimes.html
http://forums.myspace.com/t/3824331.aspx?fuseaction=forums.viewthread

JEWISH BULLYBOYS BEATING UP HISTORIANS AND THE FRENCH ARE PANICKED ABOUT A
PAEDO RAPIST BEING ARRESTED? THEY OUGHT TO GET OF THEIR KEISTER AND CHECK
OUT WHO IS BEATING UP 80 YEAR OLDS.

Sees nothing wrong with The following.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tW1-_JmXQt0&feature=related
And like the criminals in israel is always sorry. Oh they deeply regret it,
just ask any one of them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xl4nWHwoMOw&feature=related

HOW WONDERFUL FOR HOLLAND. NOW THEY CAN PREPARE FOR THE IMMIGRANTS.

Yeah well don't blame police, DEFENCE PERSONNEL,CIVILIAN AUTHORITIES , they
are just doing their job.

 ABOUT TIME YOU SORTED THE SHEEP FROM THE GOATS AND USED YOUR VOTE.

U NO WHAT U R SO DONT VOTE AGAINST YOURSELF. VOTE FOR YOUR BEST INTERESTS
AND TO DO THAT

U HAVE TO NO WHAT U R..AND WHAT  THE PERSON U R VOTING FOR IS andwhat he
believes in.

HIS RELIGION MIGHT HEAVILY INFLUENCE HIS DECISIONS.

.LETS NOT BE AS TRUSTING ASWE HAVE BEEN IN THE PAST.

"Love Europe, Hate the EU" <eu...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:8adbfa74-6fa0-4b60-9b28-23be2a5813c8@z41g2000yqz.googlegroups.com...

Immigration: The Full Story of the Immigrants Who Opened the
Floodgates

The Culture of Critique reviewed by Stanley Hornbeck

In The Culture of Critique, Evolutionary Psychologist Professor Kevin
MacDonald advances a carefully researched but extremely controversial
thesis: that certain 20th century intellectual movements - largely
established and led by Jews - have changed European societies in
fundamental ways and destroyed the confidence of Western man. He
claims that these movements were designed, consciously or
unconsciously, to advance Jewish interests even though they were
presented to non-Jews as universalistic and even utopian. He concludes
that the increasing dominance of these ideas has had profound
political and social consequences that benefited Jews but caused great
harm to gentile societies. This analysis, which he makes with
considerable force, is an unusual indictment of a people generally
thought to be more sinned against than sinning.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Culture_of_Critique_series

http://www.csulb.edu/~kmacd/books.htm

http://www.kevinmacdonald.net/PrefacePPB.pdf

The Culture of Critique is the final title in Prof. MacDonald's
massive, three-volume study of Jews and their role in history. The two
previous volumes are A People That Shall Dwell Alone and Separation
and its Discontents, published by Praeger in 1994 and 1998. The series
is written from a sociobiological perspective that views Judaism as a
unique survival strategy that helps Jews compete with other ethnic
groups. Prof. MacDonald, who is a psychologist at the University of
California at Long Beach, explains this perspective in the first
volume, which describes Jews as having a very powerful sense of
uniqueness that has kept them socially and genetically separate from
other peoples. The second volume traces the history of Jewish-gentile
relations, and finds the causes of anti-Semitism primarily in the
almost invariable commercial and intellectual dominance of gentile
societies by Jews and in their refusal to assimilate. The Culture of
Critique brings his analysis into the present century, with an account
of the Jewish role in the radical critique of traditional culture.

The intellectual movements Prof. MacDonald discusses in this volume
are Marxism, Freudian psychoanalysis, the Frankfurt school of
sociology, and Boasian anthropology. Perhaps most relevant from a
racial perspective, he also traces the role of Jews in promoting multi-
culturalism and Third World immigration. Throughout his analysis Prof.
MacDonald reiterates his view that Jews have promoted these movements
as Jews and in the interests of Jews, though they have often tried to
give the impression that they had no distinctive interests of their
own. Therefore Prof. MacDonald's most profound charge against Jews is
not ethnocentrism but dishonesty - that while claiming to be working
for the good of mankind they have often worked for their own good and
to the detriment of others. While attempting to promote the
brotherhood of man by dissolving the ethnic identification of
gentiles, Jews have maintained precisely the kind of intense group
solidarity they decry as immoral in others.

Celebrating Diversity

Prof. MacDonald claims that one of the most consistent ways in which
Jews have advanced their interests has been to promote pluralism and
diversity - but only for others. Ever since the 19th century, they
have led movements that tried to discredit the traditional foundations
of gentile society: patriotism, racial loyalty, the Christian basis
for morality, social homogeneity, and sexual restraint. At the same
time, within their own communities, and with regard to the state of
Israel, they have often supported the very institutions they attack in
gentile society.

Why is this in the interests of Jews? Because the parochial group
loyalty characteristic of Jews attracts far less attention in a
society that does not have a cohesive racial and cultural core. The
Jewish determination not to assimilate fully, which accounts for their
survival as a people for thousands for years - even without a country
- has invariably attracted unpleasant and even murderous scrutiny in
nations with well -defined national identities. In Prof. MacDonald's
view it is therefore in the interest of Jews to dilute and weaken the
identity of any people among whom they live. Jewish identity can
flower in safety only when gentile identity is weak.

Prof. MacDonald quotes a remarkable passage from Charles Silberman:
"American Jews are committed to cultural tolerance because of their
belief - one firmly rooted in history - that Jews are safe only in a
society acceptant of a wide range of attitudes and behaviors, as well
as a diversity of religious and ethnic groups. It is this belief, for
example, not approval of homosexuality, that leads an overwhelming
majority of American Jews to endorse 'gay rights' and to take a
liberal stance on most other so-called 'social' issues."

He is saying, in effect, that when Jews make the diversity-is-our-
strength argument it is in support of their real goal of diluting a
society's homogeneity so that Jews will feel safe. They are couching a
Jewish agenda in terms they think gentiles will accept. Likewise, as
the second part of the Silberman quotation suggests, Jews may support
deviant movements, not because they think it is good for the country
but because it is good for the Jews.

Prof. Silberman also provides an illuminating quote from a Jewish
economist who thought that republicans had more sensible economic
policies but who voted for the Democratic presidential candidate
anyway. His reason? "I'd rather live in a country governed by the
faces I saw at the Democratic convention than those I saw at the
Republican convention." This man apparently distrusts white gentiles
and voted for a racially mixed party even if its economic policies
were wrong. What is good for Jews appears to come before what is good
for the country.

Earl Raab, former president of heavily Jewish Brandeis University
makes the diversity argument in a slightly different way. Expressing
his satisfaction with the prediction that ...

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From: B J Foster <bjfos...@yahoo.com.invalid>
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 06:50:33 +1100
Local: Fri, Nov 6 2009 6:50 am
Subject: Re: Wilders: "we are all Israel"

For example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dH3u79h5G7A

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Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:04:55 GMT
Local: Fri, Nov 6 2009 7:04 am
Subject: Re: Wilders: "we are all Israel"

"mose" <m...@capp.com> wrote
news:3wFIm.52383$ze1.26170@news-server.bigpond.net.au...

> "cornholio" <andxor...@gmail.com> wrote
> news:123bdabc-a76f-4774-bb74-74aecba90168@37g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
> "Heinrich" <Heinr...@Ruhrgasnet.de> wrote:
>> October was a tumultuous time for Geert
>> Wilders, leader of the Dutch Freedom.....
>  Jewish officials then fired the executives responsible,
> claiming they were spreading "blood libel" linked to
> traffic in "white slaves" and prostitutes through Israel,
> according to a recent report Israel turns an official
> blind eye to forced prostitution, and does not punish
> Israeli citizens who choose to own "sex slaves", as
> long as the slaves are foreign and non-Jews.
> http://www.ety.com/HRP/jewishstudies/snuffporn.htm

Too bad we'll never be able to find out whether they think
it is better to be a sex slave, than to live a life void of sex....
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and other beneficiaries of the institutionalized slavery and genocide.

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Humvees, or calls in air-strikes. It doesn't have a high command, or
high security, or a high budget. The army that can defeat terrorism
does battle quietly, clearing minefields and vaccinating children. It
undermines military dictatorships and military lobbyists. It subverts
sweatshops and special interests.Where people feel powerless, it
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From: William Black <william.bl...@hotmail.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 21:58:36 +0000
Local: Fri, Nov 6 2009 8:58 am
Subject: Re: Wilders: "we are all Israel"

Now here's a man who doesn't know which side he's on...

Or,  more likely, he does but he doesn't like it...

--
William Black

"Any number under six"

The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of
Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat
single handed with a quarterstaff.


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From: "mose" <m...@capp.com>
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 00:06:44 GMT
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Subject: Re: Wilders: "we are all Israel"

"Chris X" <Chris_X2...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message

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> "Mustapha Allah" <adrianbo...@postmaster.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:477bd44a-0257-453e-aafc-a390ec3d3cdf@j19g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...

> (SNIP !)

>> Fanatical Muzzies are like Hitler they want to kill Jews.
>> God Bless Israel and the final victory as predicted in Revelations.

> You utter twat, "Adrian".

WELL IF YOU ARE JEWISH YOU ARE A CLEVER LITTLE FELLA, IF NOT? IT'S CALLED
CUTTING YOUR OWN THROAT.

http://www.ety.com/HRP/jewishstudies/snuffporn.htm
Three Russian Jews and eight Italian Jews were arrested after police
discovered they had been kidnapping non-Jewish children between the ages of
two and five years from Russian orphanages, raping the children, and then
murdering them on film. Mostly non-Jewish customers, including 1,700
nationwide, 600 in Italy, and an unknown number in the United States, paid
as much as $20,000 per film to watch little children being raped and
murdered.

THEY MURDER NON JEWISH CITIZENS WITH IMPUNITY? ACTUALLY RUBBING ENGLISH
FAMILIES NOSES IN THE INJUSTICE.

Hurndall, age 21, from Machester, England, had been standing between Israeli
troops and Palestinian children when Israeli soldiers opened fire, according
to a fellow activist from the International Solidarity Movement who
witnessed the scene.(AP Photo/Khalil Hamra)

http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article1360.shtml
http://www.bcheights.com/main.cfm?include=detail&storyid=582920

http://www.tomhurndall.co.uk/

http://electronicintifada.net/bytopic/people/213.shtml

Yeah well don't blame police, DEFENCE PERSONNEL,CIVILIAN AUTHORITIES , they
are just doing their job.

 ABOUT TIME YOU SORTED THE SHEEP FROM THE GOATS AND USED YOUR VOTE.

U NO WHAT U R SO DONT VOTE AGAINST YOURSELF. VOTE FOR YOUR BEST INTERESTS
AND TO DO THAT

U HAVE TO NO WHAT U R..AND WHAT  THE PERSON U R VOTING FOR IS andwhat he
believes in.

HIS RELIGION MIGHT HEAVILY INFLUENCE HIS DECISIONS.

.LETS NOT BE AS TRUSTING ASWE HAVE BEEN IN THE PAST.

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Immigration: The Full Story of the Immigrants Who Opened the
Floodgates

The Culture of Critique reviewed by Stanley Hornbeck

In The Culture of Critique, Evolutionary Psychologist Professor Kevin
MacDonald advances a carefully researched but extremely controversial
thesis: that certain 20th century intellectual movements - largely
established and led by Jews - have changed European societies in
fundamental ways and destroyed the confidence of Western man. He
claims that these movements were designed, consciously or
unconsciously, to advance Jewish interests even though they were
presented to non-Jews as universalistic and even utopian. He concludes
that the increasing dominance of these ideas has had profound
political and social consequences that benefited Jews but caused great
harm to gentile societies. This analysis, which he makes with
considerable force, is an unusual indictment of a people generally
thought to be more sinned against than sinning.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Culture_of_Critique_series

http://www.csulb.edu/~kmacd/books.htm

http://www.kevinmacdonald.net/PrefacePPB.pdf

The Culture of Critique is the final title in Prof. MacDonald's
massive, three-volume study of Jews and their role in history. The two
previous volumes are A People That Shall Dwell Alone and Separation
and its Discontents, published by Praeger in 1994 and 1998. The series
is written from a sociobiological perspective that views Judaism as a
unique survival strategy that helps Jews compete with other ethnic
groups. Prof. MacDonald, who is a psychologist at the University of
California at Long Beach, explains this perspective in the first
volume, which describes Jews as having a very powerful sense of
uniqueness that has kept them socially and genetically separate from
other peoples. The second volume traces the history of Jewish-gentile
relations, and finds the causes of anti-Semitism primarily in the
almost invariable commercial and intellectual dominance of gentile
societies by Jews and in their refusal to assimilate. The Culture of
Critique brings his analysis into the present century, with an account
of the Jewish role in the radical critique of traditional culture.

The intellectual movements Prof. MacDonald discusses in this volume
are Marxism, Freudian psychoanalysis, the Frankfurt school of
sociology, and Boasian anthropology. Perhaps most relevant from a
racial perspective, he also traces the role of Jews in promoting multi-
culturalism and Third World immigration. Throughout his analysis Prof.
MacDonald reiterates his view that Jews have promoted these movements
as Jews and in the interests of Jews, though they have often tried to
give the impression that they had no distinctive interests of their
own. Therefore Prof. MacDonald's most profound charge against Jews is
not ethnocentrism but dishonesty - that while claiming to be working
for the good of mankind they have often worked for their own good and
to the detriment of others. While attempting to promote the
brotherhood of man by dissolving the ethnic identification of
gentiles, Jews have maintained precisely the kind of intense group
solidarity they decry as immoral in others.

Celebrating Diversity

Prof. MacDonald claims that one of the most consistent ways in which
Jews have advanced their interests has been to promote pluralism and
diversity - but only for others. Ever since the 19th century, they
have led movements that tried to discredit the traditional foundations
of gentile society: patriotism, racial loyalty, the Christian basis
for morality, social homogeneity, and sexual restraint. At the same
time, within their own communities, and with regard to the state of
Israel, they have often supported the very institutions they attack in
gentile society.

Why is this in the interests of Jews? Because the parochial group
loyalty characteristic of Jews attracts far less attention in a
society that does not have a cohesive racial and cultural core. The
Jewish determination not to assimilate fully, which accounts for their
survival as a people for thousands for years - even without a country
- has invariably attracted unpleasant and even murderous scrutiny in
nations with well -defined national identities. In Prof. MacDonald's
view it is therefore in the interest of Jews to dilute and weaken the
identity of any people among whom they live. Jewish identity can
flower in safety only when gentile identity is weak.

Prof. MacDonald quotes a remarkable passage from Charles Silberman:
"American Jews are committed to cultural tolerance because of their
belief - one firmly rooted in history - that Jews are safe only in a
society acceptant of a wide range of attitudes and behaviors, as well
as a diversity of religious and ethnic groups. It is this belief, for
example, not approval of homosexuality, that leads an overwhelming
majority of American Jews to endorse 'gay rights' and to take a
liberal stance on most other so-called 'social' issues."

He is saying, in effect, that when Jews make the diversity-is-our-
strength argument it is in support of their real goal of diluting a
society's homogeneity so that Jews will feel safe. They are couching a
Jewish agenda in terms they think gentiles will accept. Likewise, as
the second part of the Silberman quotation suggests, Jews may support
deviant movements, not because they think it is good for the country
but because it is good for the Jews.

Prof. Silberman also provides an illuminating quote from a Jewish
economist who thought that republicans had more sensible economic
policies but who voted for the Democratic presidential candidate
anyway. His reason? "I'd rather live in a country governed by the
faces I saw at the Democratic convention than those I saw at the
Republican convention." This man apparently distrusts white gentiles
and voted for a racially mixed party even if its economic policies
were wrong. What is good for Jews appears to come before what is good
for the country.

Earl Raab, former president of heavily Jewish Brandeis University
makes the diversity argument in a slightly different way. Expressing
his satisfaction with the prediction that by the middle of the next
century whites will become a minority, he writes, "We have tipped
beyond the point where a Nazi-Aryan party will be able to prevail in
this country." He is apparently prepared to displace the people and
culture of the founding stock in order to prevent the theoretical rise
of an anti-Jewish regime. Prof. Raab appears to see whites mainly as
potential Nazis, and is willing to sacrifice their culture and
national continuity in order to defuse an imagined threat to Jews.
This passage takes for granted the continued future existence of Jews
as a distinct community even as gentile whites decline in numbers and
influence.

In the same passage, Prof. Raab continues by noting that, "We [Jews]
have been nourishing the American climate of opposition to bigotry for
about half a century. That climate has not yet been perfected, but the
heterogeneous nature of our population tends to make it
irreversible..." - just as it tends to make the ultimate displacement
of European culture also irreversible.

Prof. MacDonald traces the development of this diversity strategy to
several sources. It is widely recognized that the German-Jewish
immigrant Franz Boas (1858-1942) almost single-handedly established
the current contours of anthropology, ridding it of all biological
explanations for differences in human culture or behavior. Prof.
MacDonald reports that he and his followers - with the notable
exceptions of Margaret Mead and Ruth Benedict - were all Jews with
strong Jewish identities: "Jewish identification and the pursuit of
perceived Jewish interests, particularly in advocating ...

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From: B J Foster <bjfos...@yahoo.com.invalid>
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 07:57:44 +1100
Local: Sat, Nov 7 2009 7:57 am
Subject: Re: Wilders: "we are all Israel"

mose wrote:
> "Chris X" <Chris_X2...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:CuadnaBHAe6-pW7XnZ2dnUVZ7oqdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>> "Mustapha Allah" <adrianbo...@postmaster.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:477bd44a-0257-453e-aafc-a390ec3d3cdf@j19g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...

>> (SNIP !)

>>> Fanatical Muzzies are like Hitler they want to kill Jews.
>>> God Bless Israel and the final victory as predicted in Revelations.
>> You utter twat, "Adrian".
> WELL IF YOU ARE JEWISH YOU ARE A CLEVER LITTLE FELLA, IF NOT? IT'S CALLED
> CUTTING YOUR OWN THROAT.

Q. In which Middle-eastern country are Arab women treated as equals,
allowed to vote and an education?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4NBRo8O3nU&NR=1


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From: "mose" <m...@capp.com>
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 11:52:20 GMT
Local: Sat, Nov 7 2009 10:52 pm
Subject: Re: Wilders: "we are all Israel"

"B J Foster" <bjfos...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote in message
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALCSSLPsiWs

I BELIEVE THAT IS THE WAS CASE IN IRAQ AND  IS THE CASE IN IRAN, WHICH BY
THE WAY I BELIEVE HAS THE LARGEST POPULATION OF JEWS IN THE ARAB COUNTRIES.

SO YOU WANT TO BOAST ABOUT THE EQUALITY OF WOMEN?
UNFORTUNATELY BECAUSE OF THE HEAVY CENSORSHIP OF YOUR AND OUR MEDIA WE DONT
KNOW HOW YOU TREAT YOUR WOMEN.

WE DO KNOW IN ISRAEL ABUSE OF WOMEN AND CHILDREN IS HIDDEN AS ALL ITHER
FACTS THAT YOU MIGHT FIND UNPALATABLE.

BUT WE DO KNOW THAT YOU KILL WOMEN AND CHILDREN SPECIFICALLY . THAT THE IDF
RAN DOWN AN UNARMED AMERICAN WOMAN WITHA SMIRK.
THAT TOM HURNDAL WAS KILLED BY ONE OF YOUR SNIPERS TRYING TO PROTECT
CHILDREN FROM YOUR CHILDREN KILLING SQUADS.

YOU HAVE L;EGAL TORTURE CHAMBERS WHICH HAVE BEEN IN NO CO COUNTRY SINCE
ANCIENT ROME AND CALIGULA.

WE KNOW THAT YOU HAVE LIED CONSISTENTLY ABOUT EVERYTHING ABOUT ISRAEL.

SO YOUR WOMEN ARE FREE? AS LONG AS THEY BEHAVE AS LOWLIFE SLUTS AND NEVER
CONTEST THE WRONGS YOU ARE DOING.

SO WHAT DOES IT MATTER WHAT YOU CLAIM. ONLY IDIOTS AND POLITICVALLY AND
MONEYCORRUPTED BELIEVE WHAT YOU REPORT AS NEWS AND FACTS.

AND THIS IS OF COURSE IN DIRECT OBEDIENCE TO YOUR NEW RELIGION WHICH AS
CHRIST OBSERVED NO LONGER FOLLOWS GODS LAW, BUT IS SIMILAR TO MAO'S LITTLE
RED BOOK ALLOWING ANY DISHONESTY AND PERVERSION BY YOU AND ANY OTHER JEW
INCLUDING WHO YOU ALLOW EQUALITY AND FREEDOM.

YOU HAVE ANY JEWISH PERSON WHO OBJECTS TO YOUR POLICIES IN  JAIL OR
INCOMMUNICADO , MALE OR FEMALE.

Talmud Hoffman

http://www.revisionisthistory.org/talmudtruth.html

http://thirdworldtraveler.com/Israel/IsraelsTortureBan.html

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/oren-bendor-who-are...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALCSSLPsiWs

http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/entertainers/actors/marlon-brando/

POOR OLD MARLON, IT COST HIM A LOT BECAUSE HE WAS AN HONEST MAN.
GIBBO PIKED.

OF COURSE MICHAEL DID NOT KNOW THE JEWS HAD IT IN FOR HIM. BUT GIVE A JEW A
CHANCE AT ANY NON JEW AND THEY WILL THROW SHIT ON HIM.

FOR NO REASON, THIS DISCUSSION WASABOUT THE FACT THAT THE MEDIA HAS MADE
SURE  EVERY NATIONAL AND RELIGIOUS GROUPS SINS AND EXCESSES HAVE BEEN BLOWN
UP AND A MOVIE MADE.

BUT AS MARLON SAYS, NOT A SPOT ABOUT JEWS WHO APPARENTLY ARE COMPLETELY
BLAMELESS IN ALL THINGS AND THROUGH ALL TIME.

IN FACT THE BLOOD LIBEL SHOWS HOW THEY ARE QUITE WILLING TO FIND A NAME AND
GIVE THEIR CRIMINALS AND PAEDOS AN OUT AND HIDE THEM AS PART OF THIER GROUP.

IMAGINE IF CHRISTIANS TRIED TO HIDE PREDATORS OFF CHRISTIANS OF  JEWS IN THE
SAME WAY.

AND NOW TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT THEY CLAIM IS BLOOD LIBEL - SOUNDS MORE LIKE A
CRIMINAL RING WHO SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ALLOWED BACK.


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Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 14:15:36 GMT
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From: B J Foster <bjfos...@yahoo.com.invalid>
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:51:21 +1100
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Wrong answer.

Why are there so many street children in Tehran?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVclAhUDKeA


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From: B J Foster <bjfos...@yahoo.com.invalid>
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:55:22 +1100
Local: Sun, Nov 8 2009 12:55 pm
Subject: Re: Wilders: "we are all Israel"

mose wrote:
> "mose" <m...@capp.com> wrote in message news:...
>> "Chris X" <Chris_X2...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:CuadnaBHAe6-pW7XnZ2dnUVZ7oqdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>> "Mustapha Allah" <adrianbo...@postmaster.co.uk> wrote in message
>>> news:477bd44a-0257-453e-aafc-a390ec3d3cdf@j19g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...

>>> (SNIP !)

>>>> Fanatical Muzzies are like Hitler they want to kill Jews.
>>>> God Bless Israel and the final victory as predicted in Revelations.
>>> You utter twat, "Adrian".
>> WELL IF YOU ARE JEWISH YOU ARE A CLEVER LITTLE FELLA, IF NOT? IT'S CALLED
>> CUTTING YOUR OWN THROAT.

16 year-old Iranian girl publically executed by Islamic Police for
"crimes against chastity"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jqQVqsOw4U&feature=related


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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:28:13 GMT
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Subject: Re: Wilders: "we are all Israel" - Oh going to have a legal torture chamber too?

CHECK THE  Talmud

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-6657600254881054584&hl=en

CHECK THE WHOLE HOLOHOAXING BUNCH.

http://images.google.co.id/images?hl=id&um=1&sa=1&q=%2251+documents%2...

http://www.zundelsite.org/english/debate/009_jam.html

"B J Foster" <bjfos...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:hd58ek$lin$3@bjf.motzarella.org...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=ES&hl=es&v=tW1-_JmXQt0&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_CRzdlA5To&feature=channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8ST5m9pREQ&feature=channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=But9m3O4umI&feature=channel

yES THE GIRL WAS KILLED, BUT IT WAS ACCORDING TO THEIR LAW, NOT RANDOM
KILLING OF INNOCENT WOMEN AND CHILDREN BY UNDISCIPLINED THUGS THAT YOU CALL
AN ARMY.

AND TI TREN WE HAVE NO REASON TO BELIEVE THAT THEY CAN STOP OUR MEDIA.
AND NEWS ABOUT YOU COMES FROM A COUNTRY RHAT HAS LEGAL TORTURE CHAMBERS
WHICH SAYA A LOT ABOUT THE BARBARITY OF THE LAW MAKERS THAT THEY WOULD EVEN
CONSIDER LEGAL TORTURE THAT HAS NOT BEEN AROUND IN A MODERN COUNTRY SINCE
NERA AND CALIGULA.

I'm not here to exchange notes on your bestial nazi  genocidal regime and
any others in the MIDEAST.BUT FOR YOU - YOUR BESTIAL NAZI SOLDIERS.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7805075.stm

As far as I am concerned we are supporting an inhuman and unexessary bunch
of extremist idiots who can only boast of having the same values as us by
closing ranks and not allowing any information to get out of israel, closing
of complete areas and hust simply lying as that is part of what they
consider normal for them.
Ignoring or lying to non jews because this is the norm according to their
new religion talmud.

CHECK THE  Talmud

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-6657600254881054584&hl=en

CHECK THE WHOLE HOLOHOAXING BUNCH.

http://images.google.co.id/images?hl=id&um=1&sa=1&q=%2251+documents%2...

What you need if going to youtube http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/

http://get.adobe.com/shockwave/

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article21878.htm
http://socioecohistory.wordpress.com/2009/11/09/zionist-israel-60-yea...
Israeli warlord vows face-off with Iran:

http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=84344§ionid=351020104

Keep in mind that the 'A Clean Break' (war for Israel) agenda was
written for Netanyahu (access the 'A Clean Break' link at the upper
right of http://NEOCONZIONISTTHREAT.COM).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1nQYKzJF1s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sdnyAgR4bo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00NzIAQ7lvk&feature=fvw

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=TD9NauMmEpk&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GCJsfVBo-8&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pdvo3-A4d4

http://bigpondnews.com/articles/TopStories/2009/01/25/Israel_alleged_...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090126/wl_mideast_afp/mideastconflictga...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_CRzdlA5To&feature=channel

http://theconnexion.net/wp/?p=4566

AND THEY GIVE THEMSELVES MEDALS FOR THIS??

      The IDF has no mercy for the children in Gaza nursery schools

      By Gideon Levy, Haaretz Correspondent

The fighting in Gaza http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1055574.html

is "war deluxe." Compared with previous wars, it is child's play - pilots
bombing unimpeded as if on practice runs, tank and artillery soldiers
shelling houses and civilians from their armored vehicles, combat
engineering troops destroying entire streets in their ominous protected
vehicles without facing serious opposition.

http://www.inminds.co.uk/card/card27.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_dQz86Ve8w

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDmLrOUKnpE&eurl=http://vnnforum.com/s...

http://www.truthout.org/010809R
"This is a shocking incident," said Pierre Wettach, the Red Cross's  head of
delegation for Israel and the Palestinian territories. "The  Israeli
military must have been aware of the situation but did not  assist the
wounded. Neither did they make it possible for us or the  Palestine Red
Crescent to assist the wounded."

What about this obama , going to wait for them to starve to death? These are
no christian soldiers handing out chocolate bars.

This is a shocking incident," said Pierre Wettach, the Red Cross's  head of
delegation for Israel and the Palestinian territories. "The  Israeli
military must have been aware of the situation but did not  assist the
wounded. Neither did they make it possible for us or the  Palestine Red
Crescent to assist the wounded."
What about this obama , going to wait for them to starve to death? These are
no christian soldiers handing out chocolate bars.

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=y3uYXWtd684

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5215366.stm

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/01/15/israel-shells-un-headquar_n_...

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  http://boards.history.com/topic/Current-Events/Proof-Israel-Lies/5200...

  Proof Israel lies
  Jan 24, 2009 8:28 AM Report Abuse
  In a thread I was taken to task because I claimed Israel routinely lies.
Now
  a few days later a major British newspaper proves my case:

  http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article557507...

  Once again Israel has been shown to lie over its tactics in battle. Here's
  the timeline exposed by the Times newspaper:

  January 5 The Times reports that telltale smoke has appeared from areas of
  shelling. Israel denies using phosphorus

  January 8 The Times reports photographic evidence showing stockpiles of
  white phosphorus (WP) shells. Israel Defence Forces spokesman says: "This
is
  what we call a quiet shell - it has no explosives and no white phosphorus"

  January 12 The Times reports that more than 50 phosphorus burns victims
are
  taken into Nasser Hospital. An Israeli military spokesman "categorically"
  denies the use of white phosphorus

  January 15 Remnants of white phosphorus shells are found in western Gaza.
  The IDF refuses to comment on specific weaponry but insists ammunition is
  "within the scope of international law"

  January 16 The United Nations Relief and Works Agency headquarters are hit
  with phosphorus munitions. The Israeli military continues to deny its use

  January 21 Avital Leibovich, Israel's military spokeswoman, admits white
  phosphorus munitions were employed in a manner "according to international
  law"

  January 23 Israel says it is launching an investigation into white
  phosphorus munitions, which hit a UN school on January 17. "Some practices
  could be illegal but we are going into that. The IDF is holding an
  investigation concerning one specific unit and one incident" Source: Times
  database

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  Jan 22, 2009

  Western governments and most of the Western media have accepted a number
of
  Israeli claims justifying the military assault on Gaza: that Hamas
  consistently violated the six-month truce that Israel observed and then
  refused to extend it; that Israel therefore had no choice but to destroy
  Hamas's capacity to launch missiles into Israeli towns; that Hamas is a
  terrorist organisation, part of a global jihadi network; and that Israel
has
  acted not only in its own defence but on behalf of an international
struggle
  by Western democracies against this network.

  I am not aware of a single major American newspaper, radio station or TV
  channel whose coverage of the assault on Gaza questions this version of
  events. Criticism of Israel's actions, if any (and there has been none
from
  the Bush administration), has focused instead on whether the IDF's carnage
  is proportional to the threat it sought to counter, and whether it is
taking
  adequate measures to prevent civilian casualties.

  Middle East peacemaking has been smothered in deceptive euphemisms, so let
  me state bluntly that each of these claims is a lie. Israel, not Hamas,
  violated the truce: Hamas undertook to stop firing rockets into Israel; in
  return, Israel was to ease its throttlehold on Gaza. In fact, during the
  truce, it tightened it further. This was confirmed not only by every
neutral
  international observer and NGO on the scene but by Brigadier General
(Res.)
  Shmuel Zakai, a former commander of the IDF's Gaza Division. In an
interview
  in Ha'aretz on 22 December, he accused Israel's government of having made
a
  'central error' during the tahdiyeh, the six-month period of relative
truce,
  by failing 'to take advantage of the calm to improve, rather than markedly
  worsen, the economic plight of the Palestinians of the Strip . . . When
you
  create a tahdiyeh, and the economic pressure on the Strip continues,'
  General Zakai said, 'it is obvious
...

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From: B J Foster <bjfos...@yahoo.com.invalid>
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 04:32:14 +1100
Local: Wed, Nov 11 2009 4:32 am
Subject: We are all Baha'i
"The persecution of Bahá'ís is the religious persecution of Bahá'is in
various countries, especially in Iran, where the Bahá'í Faith originated
and the location of one of the largest Bahá'í populations in the world.

The origins of persecution stem from a variety of Bahá'í teachings that
challenge traditional Islamic belief, including the finality of
Muhammad's prophethood, and places Bahá'ís outside the Islamic faith;
thus Bahá'ís are seen as apostates from Islam and MUST CHOOSE BETWEEN
REPENTANCE AND DEATH".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Bah%C3%A1%27%C3%ADs

CAPS added to assist idiots.

"Bahá’u’lláh took a more conciliatory position, forbidding the use of
holy war to spread his faith. Instead, he attempted to engage various
governments in dialog; however, the radical nature of his claim to
prophethood did little to change the perception of the people of Iran.

To this day, Bahá'ís are a widely persecuted minority group in Iran and
other predominantly Muslim countries, since they are seen as apostates
from Islam"


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