You sound like an atheist.. every atheist regime did just that!
over 70,000,000 victims of atheist tyranny;
# http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_atheism#Wolak2004 # # "State atheism is the official promotion of atheism # by a government, typically by active suppression of # religious freedom and practice." # - "Protest for Religious Rights in the USSR: # Characteristics and Consequences, # David Kowalewski, # Russian Review, Vol. 39, No. 4 (Oct., 1980), pp. 426-441, # # # "An atheist, Pol Pot suppressed Cambodia’s Buddhist religion: # monks were defrocked; temples and artifacts, including statues of # Buddha, were destroyed; and people praying or expressing # other religious sentiments were often killed. # ...the government emptied the cities through mass evacuations # and sent people to the countryside. Cambodians were overworked # and underfed on collective farms, often succumbing to disease or # starvation as a result. Spouses were separated and family meals # prohibited in order to steer loyalties toward the state # instead of the family. # # About 1.7 million Cambodians, or about 20 percent of the population, # were worked, starved, or beaten to death under Pol Pot’s regime." # - http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761579038/pol_pot.html # # The Cambodian Genocide: http://www.lietuvos.net/istorija/communism/communism_photos2/392millo...
# # "The country's 40,000 to 60,000 Buddhist monks, # regarded by the regime as social parasites, # were defrocked and forced into labor brigades. # Many monks were executed; temples and pagodas were # destroyed or turned into storehouses or jails. # Images of the Buddha were defaced and dumped into # rivers and lakes. People who were discovered praying # or expressing religious sentiments in other ways # were often killed. # # The Christian and Muslim communities were among the most # persecuted, as well. The Roman Catholic cathedral of # Phnom Penh was completely razed. # # The Khmer Rouge forced Muslims to eat pork, which they # regard as an abomination. Many of those who refused were killed. # Christian clergy and Muslim imams were executed." # - http://countrystudies.us/cambodia/29.htm # # "Forty-eight percent of Cambodia's Christians were killed # because of their religion." # http://www.lietuvos.net/istorija/communism/communism_photos2/44camboy... # # # "the state established atheism as the only scientific truth." # - Daniel Peris, # "Storming the Heavens: The Soviet League of the Militant Godless" # Cornell University Press 1998 ISBN 9780801434853 # # # "State atheism has been mostly implemented in communist # countries, such as the former Soviet Union,[1] China, # Communist Albania, Communist Afghanistan, North Korea, # Communist Mongolia and Poland under communist rule also # promoted state atheism and suppressed religion. # - Forced out: the fate of Polish Jewry in Communist Poland. # Wolak, Arthur J. p 104 # # In these nations, the governments viewed atheism as an # intrinsic part of communist ideology.
> > Ja! Ja! First ve line zem up, zen ve shoot zem!
> You sound like an atheist.. every atheist regime did just that!
How else do you achieve "no atheism"? If you allow people the freedom to choose what to believe - to follow their own conscience and reasoning - how will you stop people from believing that "God" is a lot of superstitious twaddle?
<m.richardso...@gmail.com> wrote: >> You sound like an atheist.. every atheist regime did just that!
>How else do you achieve "no atheism"? >If you allow people the freedom to choose what to believe - to follow >their own conscience and reasoning - how will you stop people from >believing that "God" is a lot of superstitious twaddle?
On Nov 9, 10:13 pm, Petzl <pet...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 02:45:56 -0800 (PST), Richo
> <m.richardso...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> You sound like an atheist.. every atheist regime did just that!
> >How else do you achieve "no atheism"? > >If you allow people the freedom to choose what to believe - to follow > >their own conscience and reasoning - how will you stop people from > >believing that "God" is a lot of superstitious twaddle?
Petzl -- Australia is a Christian nation, Australian society is based on a Christian culture with Christian values and Christian principles. We have nothing to be ashamed of in stating that
I wasnt made for a purpose - but that doesnt mean I cant give my own life meaning.
In fact the idea that I was "made for a purpose" - like a hammer or a spade - doent actually seem very apealing. A living being with free will is much better than a "thing" with a "purpose". A living being with a mind and a will of its own is a much better thing to be than a tool with a purpose.
A fair portion of those alleged 70 million that idiots claim would still be alive today would be at least as old as Lenin would be, if he were alive today.
Lenin was born 22 April 1870, so would be over 139 years old today.
And if there had been no opposition to those Marxist governments, none of these 70 million need have died.
It was the conflict that killed them. And theists are as guilty of that conflict as any atheists ere.
Virgil wrote: >>> Ja! Ja! First ve line zem up, zen ve shoot zem! >> You sound like an atheist.. every atheist regime did just that!
> That regime was the Nazi one which was, at least nominally, Christian.
Castro has jailed some, but I dont see the reports that he had them dragged out to be shot. And as for the Nazis, there was a kind of neopagan movement to return to the original Aryan religion. too bad they gave up on it, for the true Aryans would not have cared about the "Jews" or anything else Jewish scriptures like the Bible go on about.
Neitzsche understood this. Its a testament to the lack of scholarship on the part of Liberals that the Nazis could claim Nietzsche as a patron saint, and yet they never mentioned how he said anti-Semites were buffoons, who go 'around with pointy hoods covering their straw heads', stirring up all the asinine elements of the nation.
Note as well that Atheism only rants against Levantine religions, and never take on Buddhism, Taoism, and Confucianism. This looks like a strawman to only choose to debate the most asinine religions as if that is all there are.