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From: ".." <n...@fake.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 01:02:52 GMT
Local: Mon, Jan 28 2008 12:02 pm
Subject: Stepping out a panorama (the method that can't be done!)
Recently I suggested to a poster about to launch into "panoramas" that he
may be better off walking and snapping shots to stich than the recent method of using a rotating head on a tripod to harvest the images to work with. I've owned fixed and swing lens panorama camera so the advise came from experience... Unlike the replies! Atheist Chaplain (amongst other) took the opportunity to get in a bit of The interesting part of this is that when an idiot uses an oxymoron for a It's sort of like when that Childs puppet Charles Stevens (calling himself He claimed then that I'd posted a load of bullshit. Claiming also the EPA And then because of his inability to read the written word, he tried the Did that stop him? Nah... Weak minded morons like him and the wanker calling Here we go: Charles Stevens (Mark Thomas 7th) Did it long before him. and I have no That's it for me. I'm done with the fools who think just because they have a Not see ya later but absolutely good bye! My new year resolution? Avoid the Douglas You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: "Jeff R." <contact...@this.ng>
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 12:24:55 +1100
Local: Mon, Jan 28 2008 12:24 pm
Subject: Re: Stepping out a panorama (the method that can't be done!)
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> Here we go: Douglas, in the two frames you presented, if you look at the pole next to > Atheist puts his foot in his mouth: > http://www.douglasjames.com.au/walking-pano.htm the footpath (just beyond and to the right of the dark-reddish hatch) you'l notice that it lines up (*almost* exactly) with the base of the mast on the yacht in the first row of moorings. In *both* frames. Now there is considerable distance (range from the camera, that is) between This is a very simple indicator that both frames were taken from the same I take stereo pairs (as an indulgence) and the two cameras I use are This is what creates the stereo effect, as I'm sure you know very well. There is no such change in register in the two frames you presented. Ergo: they were taken from *exactly* the same viewpoint. To an accuracy of I confirmed this by merging the two frames (freeform stereo viewing) and Doug, these two shots were taken from the same place. Precisely. This Would you like some tomato sauce with that boot leather? Happy Australia Day (holiday), BTW. -- You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: "Jeff R." <contact...@this.ng>
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 13:16:41 +1100
Local: Mon, Jan 28 2008 1:16 pm
Subject: Re: Stepping out a panorama (the method that can't be done!)
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(update and correction to self:) > I confirmed this by merging the two frames (freeform stereo viewing) and frames differently framed shots freeform, so... I made a stereo pair of the two frames: (Copyright vested in Doug, fair dealing for academic use, interest & What did I do to your frames? * I laid the two frames over each other; ...and voila! There is indeed some stereo separation, and a stereo effect is discernable - but only *just* - If I had taken a stereo shot with my setup (interocular around 75mm, So, I put it to you, Doug, that the two frames you posted were taken from Dammit, Doug - line up the tree in the middle ground with the clouds. Same I am happy to concede, Doug, that you have made an honest mistake here - I would be much more impressed if you posted two frames which were Can you show us that, Doug? -- You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: "Wilba" <wi...@CUTTHISimago.com.au>
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 12:40:20 +0900
Local: Mon, Jan 28 2008 2:40 pm
Subject: Re: Stepping out a panorama (the method that can't be done!)
Jeff R. wrote: Congratulations, Jeff, on your observation and analysis skills. > Jeff R. wrote: > (update and correction to self:) > So, I put it to you, Doug, that the two frames you posted were taken from Up to this point, I suspected that the two images were different crops from > viewpoints roughly 25mm apart. That's *one* inch. Small steps indeed. one wide-angle shot. You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: "N" <N...@onyx.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:39:40 +1100
Local: Mon, Jan 28 2008 3:39 pm
Subject: Re: Stepping out a panorama (the method that can't be done!)
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> Up to this point, I suspected that the two images were different crops You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: "Jeff R." <contact...@this.ng>
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:59:23 +1100
Local: Mon, Jan 28 2008 3:59 pm
Subject: Re: Stepping out a panorama (the method that can't be done!)
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> "Wilba" <wi...@CUTTHISimago.com.au> wrote in message That's because > news:fnjir5$fj6$1@news-01.bur.connect.com.au... >> Up to this point, I suspected that the two images were different crops > Highly unlikely as the road is on a different angle in the two images. (1) the camera has been tilted between the two shots, and (2) the difference in distortion(s) at the edge of the frame and the centre of the frame. They *are* two different shots, but from the same viewpoint. -- You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: "Wilba" <wi...@CUTTHISimago.com.au>
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 14:13:19 +0900
Local: Mon, Jan 28 2008 4:13 pm
Subject: Re: Stepping out a panorama (the method that can't be done!)
N wrote: Oh no, It's all explained in the text - "The path has a rise in it." :-D > Wilba wrote: >> Up to this point, I suspected that the two images were different crops > Highly unlikely as the road is on a different angle in the two images. You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: "N" <N...@onyx.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 17:08:12 +1100
Local: Mon, Jan 28 2008 5:08 pm
Subject: Re: Stepping out a panorama (the method that can't be done!)
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>N wrote: I'm not talking about the path. The area of the road that is common to both >> Wilba wrote: >>> Up to this point, I suspected that the two images were different crops >> Highly unlikely as the road is on a different angle in the two images. > Oh no, It's all explained in the text - "The path has a rise in it." :-D pictures has a different angle in each. You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: "Jeff R." <contact...@this.ng>
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 17:25:23 +1100
Local: Mon, Jan 28 2008 5:25 pm
Subject: Re: Stepping out a panorama (the method that can't be done!)
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> "Wilba" <wi...@CUTTHISimago.com.au> wrote in message No it doesn't. > news:fnjo9g$loc$1@news-01.bur.connect.com.au... >>N wrote: >>> Wilba wrote: >>>> Up to this point, I suspected that the two images were different crops >>> Highly unlikely as the road is on a different angle in the two images. >> Oh no, It's all explained in the text - "The path has a rise in it." :-D > I'm not talking about the path. The area of the road that is common to Read my earlier posts. -- You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: Cryptopix <crypto...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 22:48:38 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon, Jan 28 2008 5:48 pm
Subject: Re: Stepping out a panorama (the method that can't be done!)
On Jan 28, 4:25 pm, "Jeff R." <contact...@this.ng> wrote:
You really are a bugger for punishment Jeff. Someone tells you how it is and you argue it's not. You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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