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Marts  
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 More options Nov 1, 5:31 pm
Newsgroups: aus.motorcycles
From: Marts <ma...@ymail.com>
Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 17:31:11 +1100
Local: Sun, Nov 1 2009 5:31 pm
Subject: WRBs up the centre of a Road?
You'd think that it wouldn't happen but according to someone calling himself
"Rustynutz" in the Yahoogroup mailing list Melb-moto Vicroads may be installing
WRBs along the centreline of an undivided 4 lane road.

http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/melb-moto/message/8198

http://maps.google.com.au/maps?hl=en...04823&t=h&z=18

It's the South Gippsland Highway at Koo-Wee Rup (Victoria for those who don't
know where Sth Gippy is).

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A bachelor is someone who doesn't make the same mistake once..


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George W. Frost  
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 More options Nov 1, 5:55 pm
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From: "George W. Frost" <georgewfr...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 06:55:25 GMT
Local: Sun, Nov 1 2009 5:55 pm
Subject: Re: WRBs up the centre of a Road?

"Marts" <ma...@ymail.com> wrote in message

news:pjaqe5t5km32j7h0f0cdq7i1e1rdsc1h35@ymail.com...

Not much of a "safety barrier" if it stuck in the middle of an undivided
road

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TimC  
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 More options Nov 1, 5:52 pm
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From: TimC <tconn...@no.spam.accepted.here-astro.swin.edu.au>
Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 17:52:31 +1100
Local: Sun, Nov 1 2009 5:52 pm
Subject: Re: WRBs up the centre of a Road?
On 2009-11-01, Marts (aka Bruce)
  was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:

> You'd think that it wouldn't happen but according to someone calling himself
> "Rustynutz" in the Yahoogroup mailing list Melb-moto Vicroads may be installing
> WRBs along the centreline of an undivided 4 lane road.

> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/melb-moto/message/8198

> http://maps.google.com.au/maps?hl=en...04823&t=h&z=18

> It's the South Gippsland Highway at Koo-Wee Rup (Victoria for those who don't
> know where Sth Gippy is).

I don't think it will even increase the safety for car drivers.

It will turn every single little distraction that would otherwise lead
to going slightly over the centreline (the vast majority of the time
with no oncoming traffic) into something that causes some damage to a
car, and depending on how strong this "safety rope[tm]" and supporting
pillars are, the occupants and anyone else around (if you're in the
right hand lane of a 4-lane road, then you're overtaking someone).

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TimC
Our goverment "invests" in roads, but "subsidises" public transport.
              -- Peter Corlett (UK)


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CrazyCam  
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 More options Nov 1, 6:11 pm
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From: CrazyCam <Crazy...@optusnet.com.au>
Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 18:11:04 +1100
Local: Sun, Nov 1 2009 6:11 pm
Subject: Re: WRBs up the centre of a Road?

TimC wrote:

<snip>

> (if you're in the right hand lane of a 4-lane road, then you're overtaking someone).

...and there I thought you were an Ozzie.   ;-)

        regards,
                CrazyCam


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Diogenes  
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 More options Nov 1, 6:30 pm
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From: Diogenes <cy...@society.sux.ok>
Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 18:30:59 +1100
Local: Sun, Nov 1 2009 6:30 pm
Subject: Re: WRBs up the centre of a Road?

On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 17:31:11 +1100, Marts <ma...@ymail.com> wrote:
>You'd think that it wouldn't happen but according to someone calling himself
>"Rustynutz" in the Yahoogroup mailing list Melb-moto Vicroads may be installing
>WRBs along the centreline of an undivided 4 lane road.

>http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/melb-moto/message/8198

>http://maps.google.com.au/maps?hl=en...04823&t=h&z=18

>It's the South Gippsland Highway at Koo-Wee Rup (Victoria for those who don't
>know where Sth Gippy is).

We already have that up here in the Blue Mountains.   At the top of
Lapstone Hill.

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Onya bike

Gerry


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Nev..  
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 More options Nov 1, 7:48 pm
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From: "Nev.." <id...@mindless.com>
Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 19:48:31 +1100
Local: Sun, Nov 1 2009 7:48 pm
Subject: Re: WRBs up the centre of a Road?

Sure they are.  There's a double white line between the oncoming lanes
on that road.  The WRB will enforce the double white lines.  They're
intended to stop vehicles which would have otherwise crossed the white
line from having a head on collision with an oncoming vehicle.

It'd be interesting to see how they plan to assess the outcome of a
trial.  According to crashstats, there have been 2 fatal head on
accidents on that stretch of road in the past 20 years.  One in 1992
(when from memory it was only a two lane road, not four) and another in
2001 when 5 people were killed in a headon with a truck (will WRB stop a
large truck).  Who knows how many other vehicles have drifted onto the
wrong side of the road over the years and not come to grief.

Putting a WRB down the centre of the road guarantees that a car drifting
slightly over the centre line will have an accident, and increases the
risk of that accident involving multiple vehicles travelling the the
same direction.

Because there is no quantitative analysis of the past incidents where
cars drifting have not caused accidents, any analysis of accidents
caused by the WRB will demonstrate how many lives it has saved,
therefore proving it's value.  I can't see how a trial could fail to
prove that it was beneficial, unless it is hit so frequently that it
proves very costly financially to the authority responsible for it's
maintenance... but even then that might lead to prove of it's worth, and
reduction of the speed limit, to reduce crashes caused by WRB.

Nev..
'08 DL1000K8


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Peter Cremasco  
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 More options Nov 3, 9:55 pm
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From: Peter Cremasco <FirsName.LastN...@bigpond.com>
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:55:11 +1100
Local: Tues, Nov 3 2009 9:55 pm
Subject: Re: WRBs up the centre of a Road?
Marts wrote:
> You'd think that it wouldn't happen but according to someone calling himself
> "Rustynutz" in the Yahoogroup mailing list Melb-moto Vicroads may be installing
> WRBs along the centreline of an undivided 4 lane road.

> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/melb-moto/message/8198

> http://maps.google.com.au/maps?hl=en...04823&t=h&z=18

> It's the South Gippsland Highway at Koo-Wee Rup (Victoria for those who don't
> know where Sth Gippy is).

They've already done it on a section of the Midlands Hwy near Bagdad
(just north of Hobart). Mind you, it's a three lane - one lane one way,
and two the other.

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