On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 14:36:50 +1100, Nev.. wrote: > G-S wrote: >> Marts wrote: >>> G-S wrote...
>>>> If you're talking about rotating shift work then that's referred to >>>> as 'rotating shift work' to distinguish it from fixed shift work and >>>> in my experience those poor buggers hardly sleep at all :)
>>> aha. So for them, it could be any number of "sleeps" before this >>> rally....
> On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 14:36:50 +1100, Nev.. wrote:
>> G-S wrote: >>> Marts wrote: >>>> G-S wrote...
>>>>> If you're talking about rotating shift work then that's referred to >>>>> as 'rotating shift work' to distinguish it from fixed shift work and >>>>> in my experience those poor buggers hardly sleep at all :)
>>>> aha. So for them, it could be any number of "sleeps" before this >>>> rally....
Bill_h wrote: > On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 14:36:50 +1100, Nev.. wrote:
>> G-S wrote: >>> Marts wrote: >>>> G-S wrote...
>>>>> If you're talking about rotating shift work then that's referred to >>>>> as 'rotating shift work' to distinguish it from fixed shift work and >>>>> in my experience those poor buggers hardly sleep at all :) >>>> aha. So for them, it could be any number of "sleeps" before this >>>> rally....
>>>> :-]
>>> Sleep = allocated sleeping time [1]
>>> G-S
>>> [1] Doesn't mean they use it for that :) >> You've completely ignored unallocated sleeping time.
>> Nev.. >> '08 DL1000K8
> You mean if we count nanny-naps it might be closer to 50 sleeps?
G-S's view of sleep is so black and white, it's once per day, and apparently counts even if you don't sleep. *boggle*
> >>>>> If you're talking about rotating shift work then that's referred to > >>>>> as 'rotating shift work' to distinguish it from fixed shift work and > >>>>> in my experience those poor buggers hardly sleep at all :) > >>>> aha. So for them, it could be any number of "sleeps" before this > >>>> rally....
> >>>> :-]
> >>> Sleep = allocated sleeping time [1]
> >>> G-S
> >>> [1] Doesn't mean they use it for that :) > >> You've completely ignored unallocated sleeping time.
> >> Nev.. > >> '08 DL1000K8
> > You mean if we count nanny-naps it might be closer to 50 sleeps?
> G-S's view of sleep is so black and white, it's once per day, and > apparently counts even if you don't sleep. *boggle*
> Nev.. > '08 DL1000K8
he runs a business in Victoria, there is legislation now for everything, including sleep.. (once a day)
>>>> If you're talking about rotating shift work then that's referred to >>>> as 'rotating shift work' to distinguish it from fixed shift work and >>>> in my experience those poor buggers hardly sleep at all :)
>>> aha. So for them, it could be any number of "sleeps" before this >>> rally....
Nev.. wrote: > Bill_h wrote: >> On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 14:36:50 +1100, Nev.. wrote:
>>> G-S wrote: >>>> Marts wrote: >>>>> G-S wrote...
>>>>>> If you're talking about rotating shift work then that's referred to >>>>>> as 'rotating shift work' to distinguish it from fixed shift work and >>>>>> in my experience those poor buggers hardly sleep at all :) >>>>> aha. So for them, it could be any number of "sleeps" before this >>>>> rally....
>>>>> :-]
>>>> Sleep = allocated sleeping time [1]
>>>> G-S
>>>> [1] Doesn't mean they use it for that :) >>> You've completely ignored unallocated sleeping time.
>>> Nev.. >>> '08 DL1000K8
>> You mean if we count nanny-naps it might be closer to 50 sleeps?
> G-S's view of sleep is so black and white, it's once per day, and > apparently counts even if you don't sleep. *boggle*
It comes from dealing with departments who have that view.
'Sleeping periods' is a defined term in various areas.
Marty H wrote: > On Oct 31, 6:20 pm, "Nev.." <id...@mindless.com> wrote: >> Bill_h wrote: >>> On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 14:36:50 +1100, Nev.. wrote: >>>> G-S wrote: >>>>> Marts wrote: >>>>>> G-S wrote... >>>>>>> If you're talking about rotating shift work then that's referred to >>>>>>> as 'rotating shift work' to distinguish it from fixed shift work and >>>>>>> in my experience those poor buggers hardly sleep at all :) >>>>>> aha. So for them, it could be any number of "sleeps" before this >>>>>> rally.... >>>>>> :-] >>>>> Sleep = allocated sleeping time [1] >>>>> G-S >>>>> [1] Doesn't mean they use it for that :) >>>> You've completely ignored unallocated sleeping time. >>>> Nev.. >>>> '08 DL1000K8 >>> You mean if we count nanny-naps it might be closer to 50 sleeps? >> G-S's view of sleep is so black and white, it's once per day, and >> apparently counts even if you don't sleep. *boggle*
>> Nev.. >> '08 DL1000K8
> he runs a business in Victoria, there is legislation now for > everything, including sleep.. (once a day)
You think you are joking...
As part of fatigue management accreditation we are required to adhere to legislation which actually DOES allocate and define sleep periods. [1]
>>>>> If you're talking about rotating shift work then that's referred to >>>>> as 'rotating shift work' to distinguish it from fixed shift work >>>>> and in my experience those poor buggers hardly sleep at all :)
>>>> aha. So for them, it could be any number of "sleeps" before this >>>> rally....
> That's during working hours for you isn't it Nev?
Mostly, Although most times I've slept at work has been allocated sleep breaks, like a nap every night at 4am... I would consider that to be a planned sleep. Unallocated would be more likely to be sleeping on the couch when I was actually intended to be watching TV. :)
>>>>>> If you're talking about rotating shift work then that's referred >>>>>> to as 'rotating shift work' to distinguish it from fixed shift >>>>>> work and in my experience those poor buggers hardly sleep at all :)
>>>>> aha. So for them, it could be any number of "sleeps" before this >>>>> rally....
>> That's during working hours for you isn't it Nev?
> Mostly, Although most times I've slept at work has been allocated sleep > breaks, like a nap every night at 4am... I would consider that to be a > planned sleep. Unallocated would be more likely to be sleeping on the > couch when I was actually intended to be watching TV. :)
> Nev.. > '08 DL1000K8
You need to get a PVR so you don't miss those couch TV shows!
>>>>>>> If you're talking about rotating shift work then that's referred >>>>>>> to as 'rotating shift work' to distinguish it from fixed shift >>>>>>> work and in my experience those poor buggers hardly sleep at all :)
>>>>>> aha. So for them, it could be any number of "sleeps" before this >>>>>> rally....
>>> That's during working hours for you isn't it Nev?
>> Mostly, Although most times I've slept at work has been allocated >> sleep breaks, like a nap every night at 4am... I would consider that >> to be a planned sleep. Unallocated would be more likely to be >> sleeping on the couch when I was actually intended to be watching TV. :)
>> Nev.. >> '08 DL1000K8
> You need to get a PVR so you don't miss those couch TV shows!
Yeah when I ssaid TV I was actually talking about stuff that was on TV at some time in the past. Try not to watch live tv at all these days. Pity the TiVo doesn't have a 30sec skip button like the other PVRs I've owned, but it's other features more than make up for that.
Nev.. wrote... > Yeah when I ssaid TV I was actually talking about stuff that was on TV > at some time in the past. Try not to watch live tv at all these days. > Pity the TiVo doesn't have a 30sec skip button like the other PVRs I've > owned, but it's other features more than make up for that.
Now that we're waay off topic, what does this Tivo do that other PVRs that you've had don't?
I'm lashing out and getting the missus a full HD television for Xmas. A decent PVR to go with it is also on the cards.
Currently I have an SD twin tuner Topfield on one TV and a Mystar pay TV PVR on the aging SD plasma in the lounge.
So, whenever I record the GPs or World Supers (back on topic now), I can only do it in SD mode.
> Nev.. wrote... > > Yeah when I ssaid TV I was actually talking about stuff that was on TV > > at some time in the past. Try not to watch live tv at all these days. > > Pity the TiVo doesn't have a 30sec skip button like the other PVRs I've > > owned, but it's other features more than make up for that.
> Now that we're waay off topic, what does this Tivo do that other PVRs that > you've had don't?
> I'm lashing out and getting the missus a full HD television for Xmas. A decent > PVR to go with it is also on the cards.
> Currently I have an SD twin tuner Topfield on one TV and a Mystar pay TV PVR on > the aging SD plasma in the lounge.
> So, whenever I record the GPs or World Supers (back on topic now), I can only do > it in SD mode.
You can record off the HD TV box onto a PVR in HD but you won't be able to record off the Austar IQ2 box in HD unless you have a hack for HDCP (dunno if they exist but I wouldn't be surprised if they did)
>> Yeah when I ssaid TV I was actually talking about stuff that was on TV >> at some time in the past. Try not to watch live tv at all these days. >> Pity the TiVo doesn't have a 30sec skip button like the other PVRs I've >> owned, but it's other features more than make up for that.
> Now that we're waay off topic, what does this Tivo do that other PVRs that > you've had don't?
It has access to the electronic program guide. You can tell it what you want to watch, and it will find it in the EPG and record it whenever it is on. So you don't have to remember stuff like the Dutch TT is run on a Saturday not a Sunday. Handy for when the your favourite show changes timeslot without you knowing about it.
You can set up recordings on other criteria like actor or director or keywords too.. so you set a keyword on "motorcycle" and it will record anything that has motorcycle in the title or description. It'll also record stuff that it thinks you might like, based on whever you normally record. Also does its own disk space management too, on a FIFO basis, so if ignore it, the disk won't fill up... and you can upload/download programs to your computer and convert to mp4 etc if that's your thing. I imagine if I had to sit on public transport for an hour each day travelling to/from work that feature could come in quite handy.
I don't know what the current prices are, but when I bought mine, it was the cheapest twin tuner HD PVR on the market.
>>> Yeah when I ssaid TV I was actually talking about stuff that was on TV >>> at some time in the past. Try not to watch live tv at all these days. >>> Pity the TiVo doesn't have a 30sec skip button like the other PVRs I've >>> owned, but it's other features more than make up for that.
>> Now that we're waay off topic, what does this Tivo do that other PVRs >> that >> you've had don't?
> It has access to the electronic program guide. You can tell it what you > want to watch, and it will find it in the EPG and record it whenever it is > on. So you don't have to remember stuff like the Dutch TT is run on a > Saturday not a Sunday. Handy for when the your favourite show changes > timeslot without you knowing about it.
> You can set up recordings on other criteria like actor or director or > keywords too.. so you set a keyword on "motorcycle" and it will record > anything that has motorcycle in the title or description. It'll also > record stuff that it thinks you might like, based on whever you normally > record. Also does its own disk space management too, on a FIFO basis, so > if ignore it, the disk won't fill up... and you can upload/download > programs to your computer and convert to mp4 etc if that's your thing. I > imagine if I had to sit on public transport for an hour each day > travelling to/from work that feature could come in quite handy.
> I don't know what the current prices are, but when I bought mine, it was > the cheapest twin tuner HD PVR on the market.
> Nev.. > '08 DL1000K8
As one of the new Underclass of People Who Rarely Watch TV but would Occasionally Like to Watch Something, WTF should I do? My telly is a tiny weeny little jobbie that is perfect for watching MotoGP races (the only thing I ever watch) if I have my glasses on or my contact lenses in, and don;t sitr too far away from the screen.
I am, to put it mildly, somewhat peeved that my minimalist viewing habits (which are nonetheless extremely important to me!) will require an expensive outlay for either a bloody diigital telly OR a set top box that does something miraculous and conversional to the shitty little el-cheapo and much-loved telly I currently have, just so I can watch a couple of hours of motorcycle racing every couple of weeks for about half of the year.
And if, for some reason currently unknown to myself, it should become imperative that I turn on the dreaded Box for half an hour in the future, at some unforeseen time, (say, during an alien invasion) I will be one of the multitude of televisual underclass types who may well perish because I have not Upgraded to some technology worthy of a telly more spiffy than my weeny once-a-fortnight-half-a-year-motoGP box...
bikerbetty wrote: > I am, to put it mildly, somewhat peeved that my minimalist viewing habits > (which are nonetheless extremely important to me!) will require an expensive > outlay for either a bloody diigital telly OR a set top box
$50. Reasonable set top box, or 2 good bottles of red. Could be a tough decision. Open a bottle and think about it. :)
In aus.motorcycles on Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:13:22 +1100
bikerbetty <bikerbettyatgmaildotcom> wrote:
> I am, to put it mildly, somewhat peeved that my minimalist viewing habits > (which are nonetheless extremely important to me!) will require an expensive > outlay for either a bloody diigital telly OR a set top box that does
You can get digital TVs that have input for your computer.
So you mostly use it for your usenet habit and watch TV on it when the GP's on.
Else you get a digital TV doover that plugs into your PC.
Zebee Johnstone wrote: > In aus.motorcycles on Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:13:22 +1100 > bikerbetty <bikerbettyatgmaildotcom> wrote: >> I am, to put it mildly, somewhat peeved that my minimalist viewing habits >> (which are nonetheless extremely important to me!) will require an expensive >> outlay for either a bloody diigital telly OR a set top box that does
> You can get digital TVs that have input for your computer.
> So you mostly use it for your usenet habit and watch TV on it when the > GP's on.
> Else you get a digital TV doover that plugs into your PC.
> Zebee
An inexpensive digital dual channel card makes your computer into a very capable dvr with free software , add ram and run the dvr in a virtual machine makes life easy
atec7 7 wrote: > Zebee Johnstone wrote: >> In aus.motorcycles on Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:13:22 +1100 >> bikerbetty <bikerbettyatgmaildotcom> wrote: >>> I am, to put it mildly, somewhat peeved that my minimalist viewing >>> habits (which are nonetheless extremely important to me!) will >>> require an expensive outlay for either a bloody diigital telly OR a >>> set top box that does
>> You can get digital TVs that have input for your computer.
>> So you mostly use it for your usenet habit and watch TV on it when the >> GP's on.
>> Else you get a digital TV doover that plugs into your PC.
>> Zebee > An inexpensive digital dual channel card makes your computer into a very > capable dvr with free software , add ram and run the dvr in a virtual > machine makes life easy
Maybe... if you've got one of those old fashioned computers which don't move.
Nev.. wrote: > atec7 7 wrote: >> Zebee Johnstone wrote: >>> In aus.motorcycles on Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:13:22 +1100 >>> bikerbetty <bikerbettyatgmaildotcom> wrote: >>>> I am, to put it mildly, somewhat peeved that my minimalist viewing >>>> habits (which are nonetheless extremely important to me!) will >>>> require an expensive outlay for either a bloody diigital telly OR a >>>> set top box that does
>>> You can get digital TVs that have input for your computer.
>>> So you mostly use it for your usenet habit and watch TV on it when the >>> GP's on.
>>> Else you get a digital TV doover that plugs into your PC.
>>> Zebee >> An inexpensive digital dual channel card makes your computer into a >> very capable dvr with free software , add ram and run the dvr in a >> virtual machine makes life easy
> Maybe... if you've got one of those old fashioned computers which don't > move.
atec7 7 wrote: > Nev.. wrote: >> atec7 7 wrote: >>> Zebee Johnstone wrote: >>>> In aus.motorcycles on Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:13:22 +1100 >>>> bikerbetty <bikerbettyatgmaildotcom> wrote: >>>>> I am, to put it mildly, somewhat peeved that my minimalist viewing >>>>> habits (which are nonetheless extremely important to me!) will >>>>> require an expensive outlay for either a bloody diigital telly OR a >>>>> set top box that does
>>>> You can get digital TVs that have input for your computer.
>>>> So you mostly use it for your usenet habit and watch TV on it when the >>>> GP's on.
>>>> Else you get a digital TV doover that plugs into your PC.
>>>> Zebee >>> An inexpensive digital dual channel card makes your computer into a >>> very capable dvr with free software , add ram and run the dvr in a >>> virtual machine makes life easy
>> Maybe... if you've got one of those old fashioned computers which >> don't move.
>> Nev.. >> '08 DL1000K8 > you know about usb connections ?
Yeah, but I don't have a 4,000,000,000mm usb cable. You didn't quite think that through did you?
Nev.. wrote: > atec7 7 wrote: >> Nev.. wrote: >>> atec7 7 wrote: >>>> Zebee Johnstone wrote: >>>>> In aus.motorcycles on Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:13:22 +1100 >>>>> bikerbetty <bikerbettyatgmaildotcom> wrote: >>>>>> I am, to put it mildly, somewhat peeved that my minimalist viewing >>>>>> habits (which are nonetheless extremely important to me!) will >>>>>> require an expensive outlay for either a bloody diigital telly OR >>>>>> a set top box that does
>>>>> You can get digital TVs that have input for your computer.
>>>>> So you mostly use it for your usenet habit and watch TV on it when the >>>>> GP's on.
>>>>> Else you get a digital TV doover that plugs into your PC.
>>>>> Zebee >>>> An inexpensive digital dual channel card makes your computer into a >>>> very capable dvr with free software , add ram and run the dvr in a >>>> virtual machine makes life easy
>>> Maybe... if you've got one of those old fashioned computers which >>> don't move.
>>> Nev.. >>> '08 DL1000K8 >> you know about usb connections ?
> Yeah, but I don't have a 4,000,000,000mm usb cable. You didn't quite > think that through did you?
> Nev.. > '08 DL1000K8
You really are a dickhead nev the usb cable needs only be long enough to connect the external digital tuner to the computer anything else your likely to beaujest is pure idiocy
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