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From: "PeteSig" <pete...@bigpond.com>
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Subject: Re: Crap respsonse from Connex about bikes on trains.
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"DJ"  wrote:
>
> Well no it's not ok but understandable to make restrictions at certain 
> peak times due to possible risk to other commuters.

Restrictions start to look like persecution when there are only ever a tiny 
number of people who would take a bike on a peak hour train.

> Say you weren't a bike rider, and your travelling in a fairly packed 
> carriage and someone gets on the train with a wet bike with some mud 
> splashed up the side of it or just dirty water from the roads, rubbed up 
> against your suit or workclothes,

And say you had a need to take your bike on a train, and had chosen a 
carriage that was not packed full?? And the bike was clean?

> or worse still, you get scraped along the leg with a sharp end of a pedal 
> or chainwheel or it rips your suit leg to peices, just because the bike 
> was in the carriage,

Some people just lack gross motor skills, I know.

> no fault to anyone but all it takes is a jerk from a sudden stop to send 
> standing passengers scurrying to get balance.

One thing all our crap train carriages lack is overhead straps and rails, so 
that stops and starts are not such a threat. Why blame the cyclist? We had 
plenty of straps and open spaces in the old carriages of the 70s and 80s.

> It's like on a bus, at no time are bicycles allowed on a bus due to the 
> tight confines of that type of vehicle.

Yes, but they can be carried on external rails vis. Brisbane and Canberra 
buses

> Prams are another pain in the arse,but unlike bicycles, don't have the 
> sharp peices to rip you open

!!!!

> and that's the only reason they restrict bikes at these times plus the 
> fact that for every bike on the train, they can fit 2 more people.

No, the rail authorities seem to have an innate antipathy to bikes. V-line 
is banning bikes on peak country services, despite the fact that NO 
additional passenger space will be available as a result (all bikes go into 
designated bike luggage areas)

Maybe things are differnet in NSW. You need to get a perspective on 
Victoria, where one of the best PT systems in Australia for bike/rail 
multimode travel, is being made much less usable... and all by a Labor 
government who lay claims to wanting greater sustainability!!!

-- 
Cheers
Peter

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