Message from discussion Crap respsonse from Connex about bikes on trains.

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From: Zebee Johnstone <zeb...@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Crap respsonse from Connex about bikes on trains.
Date: 6 Jan 2008 03:46:30 GMT
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In aus.bicycle on Sun, 06 Jan 2008 00:51:23 GMT
PeteSig <pete...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>
> "DJ"  wrote:
>>
>> carriage and someone gets on the train with a wet bike with some mud 
>> splashed up the side of it or just dirty water from the roads, rubbed up 
>> against your suit or workclothes,
>
> And say you had a need to take your bike on a train, and had chosen a 
> carriage that was not packed full?? And the bike was clean?

Except that the reason they are banned is because they are full.

Will you have an inspector who will check bikes for cleanliness before
they are allowed on?  Will you agree that if there are more than X
people on the train at any one time all cyclists are thrown off at the
next station?

>> or worse still, you get scraped along the leg with a sharp end of a pedal 
>> or chainwheel or it rips your suit leg to peices, just because the bike 
>> was in the carriage,
>
> Some people just lack gross motor skills, I know.

Some do, yes.  Elderly people, those with some varieties of MS, those
with injuries, those with some balance problems, some people with
Downs Syndrome, some people who are tired.

I am unsure why they don't count.

> One thing all our crap train carriages lack is overhead straps and rails, so 
> that stops and starts are not such a threat. Why blame the cyclist? We had 
> plenty of straps and open spaces in the old carriages of the 70s and 80s.

OPen spaces are usually about lack of people.  What's the population
of the city and the numbers using trains now compared to them?

>
>> It's like on a bus, at no time are bicycles allowed on a bus due to the 
>> tight confines of that type of vehicle.
>
> Yes, but they can be carried on external rails vis. Brisbane and Canberra 
> buses

How many?  And how much time does it take to insert and remove?
Should other passengers have to wait?

Zebee