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Re: Ed Dolan and liberalism

edo...@iw.net (Edward Dolan) — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:40:38 UT

The cost of providing education to everyone is simply enormous and so would
the cost of providing health care to everyone. We are talking about a huge
chunk of the economy. It is indeed the welfare state for government to
provide these two basic services. The best way to justify it is simply to
make it a right by virtue of citizenship.

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edo...@iw.net (Edward Dolan) — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 09:08:30 UT

It is a never ending mystery to me why I poke about liberalism like a cat
with a mouse. I want it to work but it seems like it never does.
I want a single payer health care system just like England has. But that is
almost as far as it goes with me. I consider health care a right, not
something you have to pay for in order to get it. It falls into the same

Faulconbridge Point firetrail closed (Blue Mountains mtb ride)

thefathi...@gmail.com (thefathippy) — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:19:01 UT

I'm detecting a pattern.
Faulco Point (aka Grose Lookout)
"Due to maintenance works Faulconbridge Pt Fire Trail will be CLOSED
Monday to Friday from 17th November until further notice. This closure
includes pedestrian and bike access."
from:
[link]

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Re: Transportable road bike

j...@fatcyclist.com (John Pitts) — Sat, 14 Nov 2009 21:53:50 UT

What city? Cheeky Transport in Sydney and Epic Cycles in Brisbane
spring to mind.

Ed Dolan the Great invites one and all ...

edo...@iw.net (Edward Dolan) — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:23:45 UT

Any and all posts of a general nature on these cycling newsgroups should be
posted to ARBR where Ed Dolan the great can dispose of them with the
expertise that they deserve. He is a genius and will know exactly how to
treat you. If you are stupid, then you will get your just deserts. If you
are smart, then you will be pleasantly surprised.

Ed Dolan the Great and the cycling newsgroups

edo...@iw.net (Edward Dolan) — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:21:29 UT

Ed Dolan the Great advises ...

edo...@iw.net (Edward Dolan) — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:16:04 UT

Re: Transportable road bike

ja...@norubbish.tpg.com.au (Jack Russell) — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 04:18:00 UT

I should also mention that if you get it done also have cable separators
fitted. I think they are made by Moulton.

Re: Transportable road bike

zeb...@gmail.com (Zebee Johnstone) — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:28:46 UT

In aus.bicycle on Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:57:11 +1100
Flying furniture has Airnimal folding bikes but they aren't all
that "normal" even though they have big wheels.
[link]
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Re: Transportable road bike

ja...@norubbish.tpg.com.au (Jack Russell) — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 01:57:11 UT

I thought one of the recumbent manufacturers stocked them. I have them
on my Thorn (UK). I must admit I do not use them as also have to remove
the frame, cranks, mudguards etc to get it into the box I have. Where
are you based Patrick?

Re: Scully proves he's an idiot......

patr...@keogh.net.au (Patrick Keogh) — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:39:37 UT

If you need more evidence, the Evans and Peck site has a white paper
around further extension to Sydney motorways. So not only does the
company have a financial interest in keeping bicycles off roads (it
makes the motorway cheaper to build) but they have no concept of social
good. For example it says that the ability to control vehicle speeds on

Transportable road bike

patr...@keogh.net.au (Patrick Keogh) — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:29:27 UT

HI all,
I'm looking to put together a more transportable road bike. I want to
use something like the Ritchey Break Away or Surly Travelers Check
frames that can be dismantled to two pieces (the two triangles),
allowing a complete bike to be packed in a relatively small case.
There are other similar frames from Dahon, and several that use the S&S

Re: Scully proves he's an idiot......

gl...@fake_address.com.au (Geoff Lock) — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 05:11:24 UT

I have read that article several times trying to understand Scully's POV.
One assertion that Scully makes is that he rejects the notion that cyclist
have a "right to be on the road". From my reading, it appears that such a
rejection is, in large, based on safety issues related to cycling. I do not

Re: Scully proves he's an idiot......

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Re: Scully proves he's an idiot......

zmvycmv0ntdac2n0zwxjby5uzxquy...@registered_user_usenet.com.au (ray) — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:29:51 UT

Aren't you glad this pig-ignorant bogan isn't minister any more? Yes, I
read it and was suitably disgusted. Same old fallacies and outright
garbage. One cyclist on the road, ANY road, is one less land barge,
reducing congestion, pollution, accidents and everything else. Any
statement to the contrary is so much bulls--- from cretins, usually with a

Re: Scully proves he's an idiot......

ja...@norubbish.tpg.com.au (Jack Russell) — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:45:42 UT

Apparently Scully works for Evans and peck. google their web site and
explain in English what they do!!!!

Scully proves he's an idiot......

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Re: Handlebar bag suggestions

nore...@bigpond.com (20cents) — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 01:05:21 UT

In article
<173090558279063286.033342p5m8 -REMOVE.THIS.yahoo.com...@news .optusnet.co
m.au>,
Turning the front light on/off while riding is not hard and I don't need
to adjust the light so not problems. Mostly, I turn the light on/off
when stopped anyway. I will eventually get one of the new batteries that

Re: I like shitting...do you?

john4...@inbox.com (John_H) — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 00:42:17 UT

What do you do with yours then?
Ike and Hymie were driving through the countryside in Ike's Caddy.
"Stop the car Ike, I need to take a crap"
Ike pulled over and Hymie headed for the bushes. Five minutes
later.... "Hey Ike, would there happen to be any paper in the car?".
"Don't be such a Jew Hymie, leave it where it is!"

Re: I like shitting...do you?

soa...@iinet.net.au (Stephen Oakes) — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 12:17:54 UT

OK
- soakes

Re: Handlebar bag suggestions

p...@remove.this.yahoo.com.au (Peter) — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:41:05 UT

Not a bad idea. In fact I've got it set up like that at present. The
main problem is that it's hard to turn lights on/off or adjust them
while riding. I'm thinking a mini front rack and ostrich bag is looking
good for Xmas.
Peter

I like shitting...do you?

d...@gmail.com (Dingaloo) — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:31:17 UT

I like shitting.
Do you like shitting more than me?
I like it heaps.
I reckon I like it more than you do, but I don't know
how much you like shitting so I can't be sure.
Tell me how much you like shitting so I can know if I like it more than you
do.
That is all.

Re: Handlebar bag suggestions

nore...@bigpond.com (20cents) — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 07:15:50 UT

In article <1j8edpe.1aisydcd2drlwN%p...@R EMOVE.THIS.yahoo.com.au>,
Peter,
I had exactly the same problem.
I have an Ortlieb Ultimate 5 (medium) handlebar bag that holds
everything I need during the day. It is waterproof and uses a lockable
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Re: Police, David Campbell need some perspective: Road rage incident

hagg...@hotmail.com (F Murtz) — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 12:00:38 UT

It is fairly obvious, it is not a lane as such it is a completely
separate walled off two way road with every entrance that I have seen
saying buses only.
It is a complete waste of money and space,it is almost always empty with
just an occasional bus doing 80 as no one is allowed to use it.
It is a pity motor cycles are not allowed, they would not cause any

Re: Police, David Campbell need some perspective: Road rage incident

zeb...@gmail.com (Zebee Johnstone) — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 10:57:35 UT

In aus.bicycle on Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:24:22 +1100
Until they find him no one will know for sure.
I recall seeing "Bus only" signs and much argument about bikes not
being allowed, but I don't know how good the signage is.
I wouldn't ride it as it's clear there's bugger all room for anything
but buses.

Re: Police, David Campbell need some perspective: Road rage incident

firsname.lastn...@bigpond.com (Peter Cremasco) — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 10:24:22 UT

Pardon the - what may seem to be a - really silly question but..... does
anyone know whether the cyclist actually KNEW he wasn't supposed to be
in that lane?

Re: Anderson's Fire Trail Closed Indefinitely (Blue Mountains)

stac...@bigpool.com (Ken & Stace) — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 09:50:39 UT

A sad week for Blue Mountains bike riders.
St Helena and the Andersons both closed indefinately.
Ken

Anderson's Fire Trail Closed Indefinitely (Blue Mountains)

thefathi...@gmail.com (thefathippy) — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 21:40:24 UT

Andos has been closed to all users as a result of the recent bushfire.
No ETA for reopening shown.
[link]
should show updates when they happen. Interestingly, the official page
doesn't say that St Helena Fire Trail is also closed (roadworks), but

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Sydney to Gong Ride

gl...@fake_address.com.au (Geoff Lock) — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 05:58:21 UT

I did this ride for the first time ever and I must say I enjoyed it :)
3hrs 40mins was my time to the Gong and I was a bit slow compared to this
other fellow who said he did 3hrs 2 mins. Anyway, there were kids on their
bikes who seemed to have got in BEFORE either of us so I guess there is
really nothing to brag about on our part.

St Helena (mtb ride, Blue Mountains) closed indefinitely

thefathi...@gmail.com (thefathippy) — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 22:06:18 UT

Closed for roadworks wef 31/10/09, until further notice.
Roadworks and singletrack tend not to go together, so I expect the
ride to be ruined for more experienced riders. So sad. It will be
sweet, technical, overgrown, *legal* singletrack (something that is in
very short supply), no more. :^(
Tony F

Re: I wonder what the clause was?

p...@remove.this.yahoo.com.au (Peter) — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 19:57:23 UT

"Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF" <""noujwas\"@yahoo.com

.">
wrote:
Boom-boom

Re: I wonder what the clause was?

""noujwa...@yahoo.com ." (Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF) — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 12:55:00 UT

You can't a fool a me. There ain't no Sanity Claus.

Re: I wonder what the clause was?

p...@remove.this.yahoo.com.au (Peter) — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 12:12:23 UT

That's in every contract, that's what you call a sanity clause.

I wonder what the clause was?

tconn...@no.spam.accepted.here-astro.swin.edu.au (TimC) — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 08:26:07 UT

Cadel Evans managed to find a clause in his contract according to the
ABC news, and he's leaving the team. I think next year was to be his
last year otherwise.
Interesting times.

Re: Police, David Campbell need some perspective: Road rage incident

hagg...@hotmail.com (F Murtz) — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 07:32:38 UT

The bus driver did not run over the cyclist. I do not know why some
cyclists seem to be condoning cyclists putting themselves in danger by
tresspassing on a road they are clearly not supposed to use.This road
is one of the few where buses do the speed limit of 80 kmph (because
the road is mostly empty)(bicycles do not do 80)

Re: Police, David Campbell need some perspective: Road rage incident

i...@turneraudio.com.au (Patrick Turner) — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 05:05:47 UT

Indeed we live in a country where we are not allowed to kill people
while they are breaking a road user law.
Those who enforce our laws may arrest, fine, or deal with an offender.
Then there is the issue of a citizen's arrest, and its a minefield for
anyone because a civil liberties lawyer could make a case of

Re: Police, David Campbell need some perspective: Road rage incident

i...@turneraudio.com.au (Patrick Turner) — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 04:39:52 UT

On Oct 29, 1:04 pm, "Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF"
somebody asked....
So its ok if the bus driver runs over the cyclist.
Next time your son or daughter or someone you know is in the wrong
place at the wrong time, don't cry when they lose their life by
"misadventure".
Indeed many motorists don't like sharing the same road space.

Re: Police, David Campbell need some perspective: Road rage incident

n...@this.address.com (Epsilon) — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 01:00:06 UT

If those facts are correct, the bike-rider is just another one of those who
thinks that he can do as he pleases, and tough luck to everyone else. The
sooner he is squashed, the better.

Re: Police, David Campbell need some perspective: Road rage incident

hagg...@hotmail.com (F Murtz) — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 00:44:44 UT

From what I read the driver was inconvenienced. He had to go around the
bicycle a number of times on a road specifically designed so that he
would have no such obstacles

Re: Police, David Campbell need some perspective: Road rage incident

posti...@remove-to-replyconfidential-counselling.com (David) — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 00:17:02 UT

In article <vc8Gm.50649$ze1.18...@news-se rver.bigpond.net.au>,
Very well said
David

Re: Handlebar bag suggestions

p...@remove.this.yahoo.com.au (Peter) — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 22:01:11 UT

Thanks again Zeebee. At present I have a full complement of other bags.
A small saddlebag for my lock (and a musette in case I decide to
purchase a baguette on the way home). A frame bag for tubes, patches and
tools. A top tube bag for lollies and other essentials. And then there
us the handlebar bag. That's holding lunch, spare lights and batteries,

Re: Handlebar bag suggestions

zeb...@gmail.com (Zebee Johnstone) — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 20:36:17 UT

In aus.bicycle on 31 Oct 2009 19:59:18 GMT
A top tube bag? Doesn't help with the map, but a standalone map
holder might do for the times you need that. I suppose it depends on
how much Stuff you want to carry.
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Re: Handlebar bag suggestions

p...@remove.this.yahoo.com.au (Peter) — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 19:59:18 UT

That's great. However I want a handlebar bag so I can find things while
riding.
Peter

Re: Handlebar bag suggestions

newsninespam-s...@woa.com.au (terryc) — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 14:16:43 UT

There are basically three main positions for lights; axle level, rack
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An axle mount is great for showing bumps/relief but lousy for depth of
holes and prone to damage if you drop bicycle on wrong (right?) side.
However, it would show your wheel and wheel in front if that is what you