Zebee Johnstone wrote: > In aus.bicycle on Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:17:01 +1000 > Oscar Trint <Os...@memento.mori.com> wrote: >> Sydney City Council has a cycle safety campaign:
"The Labour Party is corrupt beyond redemption!" - Labour hasbeen Mark Latham in a moment of honest clarity.
"This is the recession we had to have!" - Paul Keating explaining why he gave Australia another Labour recession.
"Silly old bugger!" - Well known ACTU pisspot and sometime Labour prime minister Bob Hawke responding to a pensioner who dared ask for more.
"By 1990, no child will live in poverty" - Bob Hawke again, desperate to win another election.
"A billion trees ..." - Borke, pissed as a newt again.
"Well may we say 'God save the Queen' because nothing will save the governor general!" - Egotistical shithead and pompous fuckwit E.G. Whitlam whining about his appointee for Governor General John Kerr.
> Don't really understand the mentality of people who make signs like > that.
> Do they think that red light runners don't know that you are supposed > to stop at lights?
> Do they think a red light runner will trust a signboard over their own > feelings about safety?
> Do they think that people who run red lights will stop and open their > eyes wide and say "My God! I never thought of it like that!"
And now I know why police always think that it was the cyclist at fault in any collision involving an motovehicle at an intersection. Why of course, the cyclist *must* have been going through a red light, because that's what cyclists do. Cars always only go through *green* lights!
> And now I know why police always think that it was the cyclist at > fault in any collision involving an motovehicle at an intersection. > Why of course, the cyclist *must* have been going through a red light, > because that's what cyclists do. Cars always only go through *green* > lights!
Paranoia may be fun, but isn't useful.
Not all intersections are controlled by lights and oddly enough the cops usually know quite well which side was green.
<Os...@memento.mori.com> wrote: >>Do they think that red light runners don't know that you are supposed >>to stop at lights?
>Do they? Amber also means stop unless unsafe to do so but most >Australian drivers seem to think it means floor the accelerator.
>So obviously there is a difference in interpretation as to what it >means, the sign clears it up ;)
Too many intersections, I start on the green and am well into the red before I have cleared the intersection. The timing just does not allow for bicycles.
> On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:30:09 +1000, Oscar Trint > <Os...@memento.mori.com> wrote:
> >>Do they think that red light runners don't know that you are supposed > >>to stop at lights?
> >Do they? Amber also means stop unless unsafe to do so but most > >Australian drivers seem to think it means floor the accelerator.
> >So obviously there is a difference in interpretation as to what it > >means, the sign clears it up ;)
> Too many intersections, I start on the green and am well into the red > before I have cleared the intersection. The timing just does not allow > for bicycles.
That's never happened to a slow old bugger like me.
Maybe you need to ride more and get faster, and stop gawking at the shielas waiting to cross the road.
>> >>Do they think that red light runners don't know that you are >> >>supposed to stop at lights? >> >Do they? Amber also means stop unless unsafe to do so but most >> >Australian drivers seem to think it means floor the accelerator.
>> >So obviously there is a difference in interpretation as to what it >> >means, the sign clears it up ;)
>> Too many intersections, I start on the green and am well into the red >> before I have cleared the intersection. The timing just does not >> allow for bicycles.
Patrick> That's never happened to a slow old bugger like me.
Plenty of intersections i know of where it happens where two multi-lane roads cross, especially if you're on an uphill start or arrive at the intersection and the lights are already green.
Patrick> Maybe you need to ride more and get faster, and stop gawking at Patrick> the shielas waiting to cross the road.
Maybe when programming the lights the councils and/or VicRoads, the RTA etc need to consider all road users, not just motorised ones and roadies as fit and fast as Patrick.
> > On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:30:09 +1000, Oscar Trint > > <Os...@memento.mori.com> wrote:
> > >>Do they think that red light runners don't know that you are supposed > > >>to stop at lights?
> > >Do they? Amber also means stop unless unsafe to do so but most > > >Australian drivers seem to think it means floor the accelerator.
> > >So obviously there is a difference in interpretation as to what it > > >means, the sign clears it up ;)
> > Too many intersections, I start on the green and am well into the red > > before I have cleared the intersection. The timing just does not allow > > for bicycles.
> That's never happened to a slow old bugger like me.
> Maybe you need to ride more and get faster, and stop gawking at the > shielas waiting to cross the road.
> Patrick Turner.
Patrick, Try riding across Northbourne Ave, late at night, when you are the only traffic going Eastwards from MacArthur Ave to Wakefield Ave. Even with my best effort, I can only get halfway across the South-bound lanes before my light turns red.
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