> The signal to noise ratio here is getting even worse. > Is there another forum, moderated perhaps, on this subject without the > junk?
AFAIK, there is no other cycling discussion group which invites public discussions. Many cycling clubs have their own private discussion group.
The reason why noise is so high as you suggest is that wanted informative signal is so damn low. Hardly anything is ever really discussed beyond a few guys grunting one liner sentiments.
This group ain't the land of the cultured intelectual with a thousand words to say about everything. Mainly leg tired physical types who are also brain tired after all that pedaling.
Moderated groups are usually the most boring places to be. Imagine going to the Pub With No Beer every night. Everyone is polite, nobody is challenged, nothing contentious is ever raised, and the women sit around knitting.
The lack of the moderator keeps the boring morons away. You just can't get away with bullshit here because some bastard will call you an arsole.
On Jun 18, 8:51 am, ken <k...@killcare.com> wrote:
> The signal to noise ratio here is getting even worse. > Is there another forum, moderated perhaps, on this subject without the > junk?
I think the signal to noise ratio is quite reasonable here. Volume is geting quite low.
Moderated forums are generally boring, and run by a nazi, or a group of nazis who disagree with one another re allowable content. People who are worth talking to leave early.
'The best way to see quality input of a type you desire is to provide it yourself. Start what you think is a meaningful thread.
Unfortunately people operate on the net from anonimity. I think every email addy should be a real one. Please tell me killcare.com is a real domain and that is your real addy.
On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 17:15:15 -0700, theo wrote: > Moderated forums are generally boring, and run by a nazi, or a group of > nazis who disagree with one another re allowable content.
Bah, you're just saying that because they enforce rules such as "Nazi" should be capitalised. And say nasty things about growing trees to offset the emissions from motorised toys.
-- Dave Hughes - d...@hired-goons.net Lithospheric flight paths typically result in extremely high drag coefficients, often quite a bit in excess of design parameters. - Rick Dickinson
On Jun 20, 6:25 pm, Dave Hughes <spamb...@hired-goons.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 17:15:15 -0700, theo wrote: > > Moderated forums are generally boring, and run by a nazi, or a group of > > nazis who disagree with one another re allowable content. > Bah, you're just saying that because they enforce rules such as "Nazi" > should be capitalised. And say nasty things about growing trees to offset > the emissions from motorised toys.
Nah, nazi should never be capitalised. I already have 500 trees on my property and a 1200 watt mains-connected solar power installation as from Friday.
And I wouldn't join a moderated forum that wpuld accept me. :-)
> On Jun 20, 6:25 pm, Dave Hughes <spamb...@hired-goons.net> wrote: > > On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 17:15:15 -0700, theo wrote: > > > Moderated forums are generally boring, and run by a nazi, or a group of > > > nazis who disagree with one another re allowable content.
> > Bah, you're just saying that because they enforce rules such as "Nazi" > > should be capitalised. And say nasty things about growing trees to offset > > the emissions from motorised toys.
> Nah, nazi should never be capitalised. I already have 500 trees on my > property and a 1200 watt mains-connected solar power installation as > from Friday.
> And I wouldn't join a moderated forum that wpuld accept me. :-)
> Theo
I don't often agree with you Theo.
But 3 cheers for your trees and your solar system.
I also don't see any point to being in a moderated forum because I am highly competitive in many things I do including debating online with anyone about anything, and I have no problems getting out the flame thrower and giving a trouble maker a real good fuckin burn if he/she begs for it. But I try to avoid it.
But regarding heat, and power generation, there was an article in today's Canberra Times under a headline, "new solar cells could compete with coal" and it went on to talk about Suntech and its fouding scientst Zhengrong Shi. Apparently, the new types of solar panels include something called "plasmonics" which can be up to 50% efficient.
I don't know more but i leave it to you clever dicks to Google on the subject, and then after you've found out how well solar technology appears to be blossoming, ram the findings down the earoles of the doubters all around you and your friends who mine coal.
One thing is certain, change is inevitable if we as a species insist it is our right to have about 9 billion of us by 2050 and with at least 40% of that number with a standard of living about up to what we have now. I somehow don't think the reductions in CO2 and the greening of the way we do just about everything will overcome the problem of increasing populations.
But I also believe humanity ( and huwomanity ) will do too little too late with regard to greenhouse. Maybe Lovelock is right about the Earth being a self regulating Gaia thingeme, and last time I looked, Gaia had big BOOT, and a big LEG. If some damn organism steps out of line by farting too much CO2 around then the BOOT will be propelled mightily by the LEG, and we'll all be doomed. Not by next week of course, but with luck over time, say a generation, it will cause ppl to think twice about breeding, and women might refuse the baby bonus, get depressed about future prospects and keep their legs together. Ppl can overcome their depression by buying another bicycle and boycotting all things that are currently propelled by the madness called Social Growth, and/or Economic Development. Why on earth would anyone want to go along with business as usual if in 100 years another 33% of species have been eliminated by our stupidity, and the sea has risen a metre, and things are looking grim for homo sapiens?
There is another couple of billion years between now and the end of the Earth because the sun will expand when its H2 supply runs out. So Nature could exterminate us and have another try at something else. But who knows what has been tried and failed on the millions of other planets out there?
If only we could make contact with half a dozen other ET civilisations, we might become smart fast enough to save ourselves for the next 2 billion years at least.
On Jun 22, 5:40 pm, Patrick Turner <i...@turneraudio.com.au> wrote:
> One thing is certain, change is inevitable if we as a species insist it > is our right to have about 9 billion of us by 2050 and with at least 40% > of that number with a standard of living about up to what we have now. I > somehow don't think the reductions in CO2 and the greening of the way we > do just about everything will overcome the problem of increasing > populations.
Yes, we need a cull. I went under the knife for my gallbladder this week but, unofrtunately ofr the planet, I survived.
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