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  <title type="text">Atheism vs Christianity Google Group</title>
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  Welcome to Atheism vs Christianity. A site for continuous, lively and engaging debate between atheists and theists. All religions are invited to take on the challenges offered by atheists to your beliefs.
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  <updated>2009-12-02T10:06:27Z</updated>
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  <author>
  <name>Rupert</name>
  <email>rupertmccal...@yahoo.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-12-02T10:06:27Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.au./group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/c86b0d8ad73f8a29/cb6b40c77cae808a?show_docid=cb6b40c77cae808a</id>
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  <title type="text">Re: How Pedophilia Lost Its Cool</title>
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  So, then, she could have repeated the testimony in court and then it &lt;br&gt; would have been admissible? She now doesn&#39;t want the matter to go to &lt;br&gt; court, right; can she still be compelled to appear in court and &lt;br&gt; testify about the matter?
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  <author>
  <name>Trance Gemini</name>
  <email>trancegemi...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-12-02T10:05:07Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.au./group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/c9f0ac079e57d839/8363466536b1b7ef?show_docid=8363466536b1b7ef</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.au./group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/c9f0ac079e57d839/8363466536b1b7ef?show_docid=8363466536b1b7ef"/>
  <title type="text">Re: [AvC] A social construct?</title>
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  Well, if it isn&#39;t that old cad, Lord Whatsisname who abandoned me, the poor &lt;br&gt; Lady Gemini whilst in the middle of tea time. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;You broke my poor heart, you did &amp;lt;sigh&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;And then you return without so much as a hideeho. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;For shame on you.... &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;-- &lt;br&gt; High Priestess of Ribbonology &lt;br&gt; God Is A Ribbon!
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Trance Gemini</name>
  <email>trancegemi...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-12-02T09:57:57Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.au./group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/b829a9d8440ee60b/eb4b4fd805479bc0?show_docid=eb4b4fd805479bc0</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.au./group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/b829a9d8440ee60b/eb4b4fd805479bc0?show_docid=eb4b4fd805479bc0"/>
  <title type="text">Re: OT. John Derringers 13 Days Of Christmas Campaign Against Child Abuse</title>
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  Child Abuse Awareness - Do You Care? video. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXqT4kbtPH0&amp;feature=fvw&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;-- &lt;br&gt; High Priestess of Ribbonology &lt;br&gt; God Is A Ribbon! &lt;br&gt; All Hail The Great Ribbon In The Sky &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2009/15oct_ibex.htm?list1303103&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt;
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>philosophy</name>
  <email>smwil...@tpg.com.au</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-12-02T09:41:34Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com.au./group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/c9f0ac079e57d839/25cefc1cf8bd6f04?show_docid=25cefc1cf8bd6f04"/>
  <title type="text">Re: A social construct?</title>
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  Yeah, where&#39;ve you been Maxy? &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Yes &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;I&#39;d probably get more out of you than Queen Lizzy. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Yes. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;It&#39;s been drummed into us that people like Lizzy, who have a social &lt;br&gt; status of history, which she takes seriously and lives it every moment &lt;br&gt; of her day. I would find that difficult to relate to because don&#39;t
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Trance Gemini</name>
  <email>trancegemi...@gmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-12-02T09:35:13Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com.au./group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/c86b0d8ad73f8a29/21fc1aab0b628cd9?show_docid=21fc1aab0b628cd9"/>
  <title type="text">Re: [AvC] Re: How Pedophilia Lost Its Cool</title>
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  On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:38 PM, ranjit_math...@yahoo.com &amp;lt; &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Nope. He&#39;d have to be 16 or under to avoid charges of statutory rape. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Although there may be variations depending on the state but I&#39;m reasonably &lt;br&gt; certain that&#39;s the standard. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;-- &lt;br&gt; High Priestess of Ribbonology &lt;br&gt; God Is A Ribbon!
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>TLC</name>
  <email>tlc.tere...@googlemail.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-12-02T09:34:24Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com.au./group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/c86b0d8ad73f8a29/0665dcf61b4b0fa4?show_docid=0665dcf61b4b0fa4"/>
  <title type="text">Re: How Pedophilia Lost Its Cool</title>
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  Statements to police qualify as “hearsay.” Hearsay is “a statement, &lt;br&gt; other than one made by the declarant while testifying at the trial or &lt;br&gt; hearing, offered in evidence to prove the truth of the matter &lt;br&gt; asserted.” In 2004, the U.S. Supreme Court re-examined when and how &lt;br&gt; hearsay should be used at trials. Under previous precedent, the key
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Trance Gemini</name>
  <email>trancegemi...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-12-02T09:32:09Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com.au./group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/c86b0d8ad73f8a29/44791eba3ffa2c23?show_docid=44791eba3ffa2c23"/>
  <title type="text">Re: [AvC] Re: How Pedophilia Lost Its Cool</title>
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  Here&#39;s the latest news that I found on the case. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/27/roman-polanski-arrested-d_n_301095.html&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;He pled guilty to &amp;quot;unlawful sexual conduct&amp;quot;, was convicted, and then fled &lt;br&gt; before the sentencing claiming that the judge was not planning to stick to &lt;br&gt; the plea bargain.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>philosophy</name>
  <email>smwil...@tpg.com.au</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-12-02T09:25:00Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com.au./group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/bfa57b7f895d7535/87b7d3a5338a45ef?show_docid=87b7d3a5338a45ef"/>
  <title type="text">Re: If Christians accept evolution. . .</title>
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  Not really, &lt;br&gt; Listen to this nobel prize winning theoretical physicist: &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com/members/mkaku.htm&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt;
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>ornamentalmind</name>
  <email>ornamentalm...@yahoo.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-12-02T09:12:11Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com.au./group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/8fdb93008717fb34/1c9653804773b707?show_docid=1c9653804773b707"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Trinity</title>
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  By definition, the following is dogmatic. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;“And yes, the Trinity is more of a mystery than the Trimurti, since &lt;br&gt; it &lt;br&gt; is an authentic Mystery of God. The Trimurti is either a &lt;br&gt; philosophical theory, and thus completely understandable by man, or a &lt;br&gt; doctrine of demons, and thus merely false.” – TC, aka JFG
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>ornamentalmind</name>
  <email>ornamentalm...@yahoo.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-12-02T09:06:13Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com.au./group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/8fdb93008717fb34/e81ab3611f301404?show_docid=e81ab3611f301404"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Trinity</title>
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  The current posts about 3 in one have been somewhat elucidating for &lt;br&gt; me. Upon seeing some of the different terms used when it comes to the &lt;br&gt; notion of a triune, I did a little research for myself and came up &lt;br&gt; with the following which is in no way exhaustive: &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Triune: &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/triune&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt;
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Max</name>
  <email>ass...@pcfin.net</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-12-02T08:17:27Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com.au./group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/c9f0ac079e57d839/dcbe5d3514e92474?show_docid=dcbe5d3514e92474"/>
  <title type="text">Re: A social construct?</title>
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  Hi Rupert, &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;When I stated that Time, Money, law &amp;amp; status are social constructs, I &lt;br&gt; was just musing about how *all* of us can accept that these concepts &lt;br&gt; (albeit not real) are simply observed for practical purposes. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;I look at my watch and that measures our &#39;concept&#39; of time, probably &lt;br&gt; for organisational reasons I think. Law, for social cohesion, status
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Rupert</name>
  <email>rupertmccal...@yahoo.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-12-02T08:11:14Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com.au./group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/c86b0d8ad73f8a29/e7e2496eae6a73d3?show_docid=e7e2496eae6a73d3"/>
  <title type="text">Re: How Pedophilia Lost Its Cool</title>
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  We are not talking about what we should do if we were on the jury. We &lt;br&gt; are talking about what views we are entitled to form about the matter. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;What is wrong with forming the view that it is more likely that she is &lt;br&gt; telling the truth than not? Is there any particular reason to think &lt;br&gt; otherwise? Is there any good reason why she would falsely accuse him
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Rupert</name>
  <email>rupertmccal...@yahoo.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-12-02T08:07:48Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.au./group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/c86b0d8ad73f8a29/53906baccc6abb21?show_docid=53906baccc6abb21</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.au./group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/c86b0d8ad73f8a29/53906baccc6abb21?show_docid=53906baccc6abb21"/>
  <title type="text">Re: How Pedophilia Lost Its Cool</title>
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  The claim under discussion is not the accuser should be believed &lt;br&gt; without question but that a sworn police statement should be &lt;br&gt; considered to be a form of evidence. If it is the accuser&#39;s word &lt;br&gt; against the accused and the accused&#39;s testimony is reasonably &lt;br&gt; credible, and that is the only evidence, then a jury would be most
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  </entry>
  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Rupert</name>
  <email>rupertmccal...@yahoo.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-12-02T08:03:28Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.au./group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/c86b0d8ad73f8a29/be2893c95d7e9218?show_docid=be2893c95d7e9218</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.au./group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/c86b0d8ad73f8a29/be2893c95d7e9218?show_docid=be2893c95d7e9218"/>
  <title type="text">Re: How Pedophilia Lost Its Cool</title>
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  I have been talking this matter over with Dad who recently did jury &lt;br&gt; duty for a rape case. He says that in that case police statements from &lt;br&gt; both the alleged victim and the accused were produced and the judge &lt;br&gt; gave no directions to discount their evidential weight in determining &lt;br&gt; guilt. Dad also said that it was established that the accused had lied
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>ornamentalmind</name>
  <email>ornamentalm...@yahoo.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-12-02T08:01:31Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com.au./group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/7af146e2c45b547d/b44f6db964a5e139?show_docid=b44f6db964a5e139"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Logos vs. Mythos</title>
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  Dear dood, thanks for the response…only one critical comment about &lt;br&gt; your response: &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;“I think comparing &amp;quot;the number of grains of &lt;br&gt; sand on earth, the number of atoms in the universe, the global total &lt;br&gt; of people with IQs lower than 50 etc.&amp;quot; to understanding the &lt;br&gt; origination &lt;br&gt; of creation is a moot, if not poor analogy. e.g. I don&#39;t care about
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