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Kofi  
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 More options Jun 1, 5:54 pm
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From: Kofi <k...@anon.un>
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 01:54:13 -0600
Local: Mon, Jun 1 2009 5:54 pm
Subject: Folic acid receptor autoantibodies, vitamin D3 and milk consumption in autoimmune disease
The FDA suspended manufacture of leucovorin (folinic acid) due to
quality issues in early March and since then, I've been off it and doing
rather poorly.  Supposedly production has resumed, but I've only been
able to get one bottle.  It's lasted about a week.  Since folinic acid
has become key in a number of chemotherapies, its availability may
remain limited for a while.

Now that I'm back on it, it's like somebody turned on the vitamin D
spigot again.  The results have been so dramatic it prompted me to dig
deeper.  It turns out regulatory T-cells have folic acid receptors [PMID
17613255] and certain autoimmune patients and low-functioning autistics
[PMID 18461502] generate autoantibodies against folic acid receptors -
quite possibly as the aftereffect of clearing out a viral infection or a
cancer that trained B-cells to target the receptor.

If these folic acid receptor antibodies are numerous enough, they can
block entry of folic acid into the central nervous system.  The receptor
is necessary for folic acid to cross the blood-brain barrier.  A patient
with normal serum folic acid levels might actually be deficient in the
CNS which would only show up in a tap - a procedure doctors rarely
perform.

It also turns out that low folic acid levels lead to higher vitamin D3
catabolism [PMID 19450178] so if the CNS is deficient in folic acid,
vitamin D3 isn't going to function properly - leading to a drop in redox
capacity (e.g., low glutathione)/metals detoxification/neurogenesis,
loss of antiviral functions/cathelicidin, increased cancer risk and
probably autoimmune issues as well.  But it's going to be invisible to
anybody checking strict serum levels.  It makes me wonder if certain
vital infections don't deliberately stir up anti-folic acid receptor
antibodies to block the antiviral effects of vitamin D3 within the
nervous system itself.

The upside, though, is that supplementing with folinic acid shots or a
high dose oral folic acid seems to restore CNS levels [PMID 19260931].  
Folic acid per se may stimulate Tregs even if patients don't have a
deficiency (which probably accounts for why tumors use folic acid and
are vulnerable to these antibodies).  This may mean folic acid is a good
general treatment for autoimmune disorders.

Serum folic acid in general can be affected by autoimmune diseases.  In
Celiac disease, the levels of transglutaminase antibodies seem inversely
correlated to serum folic acid levels [PMID 15861017, 17190764].  Given
how a serum drop would affect body-wide vitamin D3 levels and the
chemopreventative role of D3, this may be one reason bowel cancer risk
goes up in some of these autoimmune diseases.  Since estrogen helps
stimulate expression of the VDR, this may be a set of factors explaining
why bowel cancer is more common in men [PMID 19450178].

These folate receptor antibodies may be a cause of subfertility risk in
women [PMID 18950755].  They have been associated with high milk
consumption [PMID 19282368] and a milk-free diet can help reduce the
autoantibodies [PMID 18355335].  Given the role opioids play regulating
antibody production in B-cells [PMID 18387505], I have to wonder if this
cross-reaction to folate receptors caused by consuming cow's milk might
stem from the molecular similarities between the casein in milk and
opioids.

Given that my folinic acid supply will be sporadic for a while, does
anybody know where I can find an inexpensive, high dose folate
supplement - somewhere on the order of 10mg a day?


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Robert Miles  
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 More options Jun 2, 5:01 pm
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From: "Robert Miles" <robertmi...@bellsouthNOSPAM.net>
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 02:01:35 -0500
Local: Tues, Jun 2 2009 5:01 pm
Subject: Re: Folic acid receptor autoantibodies, vitamin D3 and milk consumption in autoimmune disease
"Kofi" <k...@anon.un> wrote in message

news:kofi-5081C9.01541301062009@news.west.earthlink.net...

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I don't, but I'll pass along a little about what I've found about vitamin
metabolism lately.  Vitamin B12 works together with a biochemical
produced from folic acid for some purposes.  This suggests that it
may be worthwhile checking if the methylcobalamin form of vitamin
B12 (the only form able to enter the brain, and normally produced
in a few steps from the cyanocobalamin form normally used for
vitamin B12 supplements in the US) offers you any help in using
folic acid or folinic acid more efficiently, and therefore decreasing
the amount you need.

<http://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/vitamin-b12-deficiency-anemia-topi...>

http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/vitamins/vitaminB12/

<http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/vitamin-deficiency-anemia/DS00325/DS...>

Although methylcobalamin is available as a supplement, some
people have enough trouble absorbing any form of vitamin B12
that they need it delivered as injections.  Since it's the normal
form of vitamin B12 supplements in Japan, looking for a Japanese
vitamin company may help.

I believe I've seen the brand name Methyl-B12 as one possibility.

Some information on vitamin B9, usually taken in the folic acid
form if you don't get enough from the folic acid added to most
bread:

http://www.spineuniverse.com/displayarticle.php/article963.html

http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/ART02809/vitamin-b9-folate.html

http://www.umm.edu/altmed/articles/vitamin-b9-000338.htm

I've forgotten the full name of the form of vitamin B9 which
can enter the brain, but I believe it includes tetrahydrofolate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetrahydrofolate

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folic_acid

http://www.biocheminfo.org/klotho/html/tetrahydrofolate.html

<http://biocyc.org/META/NEW-IMAGE?type=COMPOUND&object=THF>

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11752472

http://biocyc.org/META/new-image?object=FOLSYN-PWY

http://www.ebi.ac.uk/interpro/DisplayIproEntry?ac=IPR000672

http://www.nd.edu/~aseriann/thf.html

Vitamin D3 is closer to the form of vitamin D that the body
actually uses than the vitamin D2 form often used for vitamin D
supplements.  Vitamin D is better absorbed if taken along with
some oil; therefore the forms of vitamin D3 already dissolved
in oil are especially active.

Robert Miles


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Kofi  
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 More options Jun 3, 3:36 pm
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From: Kofi <k...@anon.un>
Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2009 23:36:05 -0600
Local: Wed, Jun 3 2009 3:36 pm
Subject: Re: Folic acid receptor autoantibodies, vitamin D3 and milk consumption in autoimmune disease

> I don't, but I'll pass along a little about what I've found about vitamin
> metabolism lately.  Vitamin B12 works together with a biochemical
> produced from folic acid for some purposes.

I've been taking magnesium, methyl-B12 and folinic acid shots together
for several years now, since I read a paper on homocysteine blocking
GABAergic transmission.  Once I read the paper, it seemed the right
combination to throw against my neuropathy and it worked quite well.  
All of the methylators I tried from SAMe to TMG worked well too, so that
reinforced my decision.

> Vitamin D3 is closer to the form of vitamin D that the body
> actually uses than the vitamin D2 form often used for vitamin D
> supplements.  Vitamin D is better absorbed if taken along with
> some oil; therefore the forms of vitamin D3 already dissolved
> in oil are especially active.

I've been taking D3 for a while too.  It was only when I went off
folinic acid that the D3 became ineffective.

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Michael B  
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 More options Jun 28, 12:26 pm
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From: Michael B <baugh...@bellsouth.net>
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 19:26:48 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sun, Jun 28 2009 12:26 pm
Subject: Re: Folic acid receptor autoantibodies, vitamin D3 and milk consumption in autoimmune disease

You're talking about your immune system working against you.

Curious thing, there. For a little over a year, I had been hearing
about low-dose Naltrexone, and quite frankly not believing it. My
clinical background caused me to be disdainful of a product with
essentially no clinical trials.

You all know how misleading anecdotal evidence can be. But a
woman that was pretty much written off as having only a few
months to live told me how the Naltrexone had given her a
second chance, and I attributed her surge to the sort of thing
very common before death. I didn't tell her she was deluding
herself, but I told a friend to be ready for a funeral.

Perhaps I was wrong. Low dose Naltrexone is being prescribed
by doctors all over the place, and a serious clinical trial showed
it helped a small group of women with fibromyalgia. I've seen
stories by people with Crohn's, Lupus, Rheumatoid Arthritis,
other autoimmune issues, several varieties of cancer.

But those are purely academic till you see someone getting
better from lung cancer.

I'm impressed. It's not a cure, it just helps the body's immune
processes be more appropriately directed, and that would be a
good thing to have on board for celiac, Crohn's, carcinoma,
or so many other conditions that depend on the immune
system to do its job by distinguishing its targets better.

But I'm not trying to sell something, don't know or care if you
do any research on it, don't care if you decide it is or isn't for
you or someone you know. But I do care that the protocol isn't
even being mentioned. Well, it is, but not much. I'm mentioning
it. Just for the purpose of inviting people to do some checking
on it. Your research, your choice, my invitation to look at a
"can't hurt, might help" thing.

On Jun 1, 3:54 am, Kofi <k...@anon.un> wrote:


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