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George H  
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 More options Jul 28, 9:57 am
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From: AikenRa...@webtv.net (George H)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 19:57:15 -0400
Local: Tues, Jul 28 2009 9:57 am
Subject: PARTIAL COMPLEX
I've had partial complex seizures since 63. How many other types of
seizures are there ???

Its not the size of the dog in a fight.... But the size of the fight in
a dog...


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From: "G." <gar...@rogers.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 07:50:18 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Jul 31 2009 12:50 am
Subject: Re: PARTIAL COMPLEX
On Jul 27, 7:57 pm, AikenRa...@webtv.net (George H) wrote:
> I've had partial complex seizures since 63. How many other types of
> seizures are there ???

   I think there were about 5 main ones (categories) depending on the
symptoms you exhibit, that are often unique to the area of the brain
where the szr. starts (the seizure focus).
   For us with Complex Partial, a seizure can start in one area (like
mine in Right Temporal Lobe) and before it's fully controlled after
1-2 minutes it can Generalize (spread) to other areas of the Brain as
is 'completes'.   Usually at that point we pass out or at least
partially collapse.
    The sensation or feeling some of us get at the start can be called
an Aura or be part of Simple Partial seizure-- as I got nearer full
control (with pills),  mine changed to that but were still
uncomfortable as before that it meant I could lose awareness of what I
was doing and then a few times wake up in Hospital 1-2 days later..
    I think our Complex Partials occur in one of the 2 Temporal Lobes,
but may (possibly)  start elsewhere too.   The Aura can tell the
Doctor where the seizure focus is of those 2 types.   If the sensation
is a feeling of Deja Vu, a false taste or aroma that's Sour or Lemony,
then the szr. Focus is in the Right Temporal Lobe.   If the sensations
is a Jamais Vu  (where your own place can feel like you've wandered
into a stranger's house), sometimes with an Acrid or Eggy taste or
aroma, the Seizure Focus is in the Left Temporal Lobe ?

   If you have a Search Option (on this group)  look for Subject like
"Websites of Use to Newer People" by me.  I used to post those about
each 3 weeks, assembled from the about 20-30 active members from
around the world in 1998 through about 2005 or so.     Many of the
regulars either found other groups, got tired of some of the people
posting who didn't appear to have seizures but were self-appointed
experts on what it was, which elixir they had (for sale) to cure it,
or just generally nutbars.
    By far the *vast number of posters were Real People who came here
for Support, to Exchange valid info. and Links, and it was an
extremely useful Social Group for us to discuss what it's like
learning to live with this, *with other people who understood what a
szr. was like and how we felt about our "New Normal".
    Also since the posters were in about 5 timezones in N.and South
America, plus Europe (east and west), Australia and New Zealand,  you
could pose a question 'here'  and get replies over the next 2-3 days
as the various Timezones picked up their posts and offered experiences
or suggestions.
    If you can't find that Post I mentioned above (I thought I had
sent a copy to this group about June? or sooner), post here, and I'll
see if I can find it and cut and paste it back here.   The main ones I
found of use were Julie's Idaho U.S. site that included 2 FIrst aid
Printable charts (one szrs on land, the other if in water /swimming ),
and some more detail on above types of seizures and what the symptoms
looked like.
    The U.S. Ep. Foundation (I think) also has the types of szrs.
listed somewhere inside it/   it was at http://efa.org  and if it's
still active had a lot of info. including your question answers.
Howdie Dave and a few others had their own sites (if Those too are
still active), plus provided other links that I added to original Post
I mentioned at top, so it has as much as I had about 3 years ago.
     Since my szrs. were controlled (with pills) since 1998, I still
read here and enjoyed it as a social group, but only had about 6 auras
over time since then.     Heck I even had a couple of light Beers last
week at my Inlaw's Memorial Service in West Canada last week, and
*occasionally (very occas.)  have *1 glass of wine, even though
Tegretol isn't supposed to like that a lot-- at least before full
control is reached.   **Many of the Anti Ep Drugs can Magnify the
effect of Alcohol so more of the latter can produce stronger feelings
of intoxication and in some people can turn *off the positive effects
of the AEDs we use.
     Post a short (!!)  note on this group over next few days if you
**didn't see that Websites link and I'll try cut and paste the last
version on the group for you to file and use.   There was even a
Medications Glossary (I think under EFA group)  were I found things
like Tegretol and *Grapefruit Juice don't mix.  That was the last
piece of my puzzle of where some of my szrs. were still coming from
Randomly near the end, as I only used G.Fruit juice as a juice drink
infrequently.   So I never related the szr. or Aura I got 12+ hours
after with the AM time I had used that.
  It (Grapefruit) should probably only be used as Patio Lanterns
anyway, but that's just *my opinion....  :-<     G./.


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George H  
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From: AikenRa...@webtv.net (George H)
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 20:09:03 -0400
Local: Fri, Aug 7 2009 10:09 am
Subject: Re: PARTIAL COMPLEX
please repost

Its not the size of the dog in a fight.... But the size of the fight in
a dog...


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From: "G." <gar...@rogers.com>
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 18:22:16 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Aug 7 2009 11:22 am
Subject: Re: PARTIAL COMPLEX
On Aug 6, 8:09 pm, AikenRa...@webtv.net (George H) wrote:
> please repost

   I can't find the original post that had about 5 sites on it.
Topic was something like "Websites of use to newer people".    Google
(mine) might discard olde posts more than e.g. 2 years old.   If I
find a copy in a folder (assuming I kept one, I thought I had),  I'll
put it back.
    As you can see the site has been filled with crap posts and
usually a post like this attracts more of the scum who use programs to
read internet sites by robot.  I have a Spamkiller who discards all
those, and just provides a sum of messages that it had discarded.
Usually when I do **this (post),  tomorrow will be about 40, then 30
next day, etc. to under 10.   Most of them are not too bright, and
don't realize they mess up their country's Exports, as I don't buy
from countries who enable the Sources of most junlkmails-- 2-3
countries in Europe and about 5 in Asia.
   Eventually if enough others do that, their standards of living will
fall and they won't be able to afford to be online.

     Two sites I used in addition to Howdy Dave's site (one I can't
find right now),  is the U.S.  Ep. Foundation of America at http://efa.org
and the Idaho Website that includes 2 First Aid charts (on land and in
water)  that have a Printable Option, plus has lots of introductory
stuff for people newly diagnosed or who want to educate others in
their family or peer group.   The Seizure Recognition link should have
an option to travel through the rest of the site.  It's at
http://www.epilepsyidaho.org/learn-epilepsy/seizure-recognition.html
...   If that doesn't get to the chart and a doorway, then
http://www.epilepsyidaho.org   should get to the Front Page, and there
are tabs that can be clicked onto to open particular topics.   (I
didn't test those, as I haven't used them for some time.)    Probably
explains why the history no longer has my 5-group post.   My provider
put in a new Webcleaner as part of their Anti Virus, so may have
removed the older messages I had assembled for posts like
this..)         G./


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 More options Aug 7, 11:46 am
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From: "G." <gar...@rogers.com>
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 18:46:06 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Aug 7 2009 11:46 am
Subject: Re: PARTIAL COMPLEX
On Aug 6, 9:22 pm, "G." < wrote:

>    I can't find the original post that had about 5 sites on it.
> Topic was something like "Websites of use to newer people".  

January 21st (Google)  found this collection of sites.  I'll cut out
parts that the Copy function picks up whether it might be relavent
(it's not)  or not before I send this off -->    G./
alt.support.epilepsy

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Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 11:25:08 -0800 (PST)

Subject: Websites of use to newer people

Below is a 'Paste' of older message I posted about last November?

There may have been other posts on the same thread (if you have
access
to history with similar Subject line to above).

So far as I know these sites are still in use and updated by their
various providers.
   If you or someone else knows of others that might be of use to
people who read here (formerly people were posting from 8-10
timezones),  you can add them below on this thread, and people who
read here only once or twice a week can benefit from them.   G./

(Note-- I didn't go back and Re-click any of the sites to make sure
they're all still active. Some sites could expire after some time if
the Authors stopped keeping them up-to-date.  )

Below is part of an older post I put together of various websites we
had appear here over last ~5 years. Then some others added their
favorite sites to the threads so I picked those up and added them to
give the total of 7, below.
***************
Sites 1 - 7 of 7
1 From: G.
This is the Website post I said I'd post again. The First Aid Site
that
lists what each seizure type looks like is below. Inside that
link is another one for First Aid in Water (swimming).
If the page has a coloured background, there is a button
that says "Printable Version" and if you Click on that, it takes off
colours so you can print it on White Paper to keep. G./

A new site (to me) someone suggested is at http://www.epilepsy.com .

The main Idaho Epilepsy News site is at http://www.epilepsyidaho.org
.
(Julie Walton posts here regularly and maintains the Idaho Website
for
people there and us too. )

Within that are links that also go through an Education area called
Learn about Epilepsy -- at http://www.epilepsyidaho.org/learn.htm   .

Often some *symptoms people **exhibit give clues to *type of seizures
they're having and best described on a First Aid for Seizures Chart.

These are my favorites -- also from Epilepsy Idaho. One is
http://www.epilepsyidaho.org/seizure2.htm   and that links to
http://www.epilepsyidaho.org/seizure.htm  . One of those is easier to
print, although both display well for information or reference.
/////////
Howdy Dave has a site he put together ~10? years ago and he regularly
updates. He was also one of the oldest :-< members of this group and
someone told me he was one of the Founders too. His site is at
http://www.howdydave.com .
//////////
The main U.S. Ep. Foundation website is at http://efa.org . THIS SITE
Has a Medication Glossary, although I found my own pharmacist a
useful
source of information if I had Side Effects or Questions about a
particular prescribed pill.

2 From: howdydave
Date: Tues, Jan 31 2006 8:52 pm
Email: "howdydave" <>
Groups: alt.support.epilepsy

Howdy!
Another good site is the BrainTalk Forums.

Brain Talk has forums related to just about every neurological
disease
and disorder under the sun.

The Epilepsy forum is:
http://brain.hastypastry.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=133

At the present time they are having server problems so the response
is
VERY slow... but There's a LOT of good information there.
****** G. ON A LATER POST the Website of above one that Howdy Dave
posted had **Changed to this one.  (I left them both in case this
second doesn't link to the site he mentioned.)  The LATER Post listed
this -->
http://brain.hastypastry.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?=144  /

3 From: guitarmom
Date: Wed, Feb 1 2006 8:00 am
Email: "guitarmom" <>
Groups: alt.support.epilepsy

Great sites!  I find so much information on
Emedicine to help understand seizures as well as the syndromes, EEG,
and variants. it is based on articles that neurologists have written
and peers have edited and reviewed. There is a place for definitions
as well -->

http://www.emedicine.com/neuro/topic415.htm
  You can do a search there for all things epilepsy or neurology as
well.

http://www.neuropat.dote.hu/epilepsy.htm   Internet handbook for
neurology has a great number of quality sites as well. this is
compiled
by a neuro in Hungary.
Ginny

4 From: howdydave
Date: Wed, Feb 1 2006 11:41 pm
Email: "howdydave" <>
Groups: alt.support.epilepsy

Let's not forget:
Strathearn Neurological Access Point
aka: SNAP
http://www.sol.co.uk/k/keir/snap1.htm

Set up by Dave Ferguson (the REAL founder of this group) in Scotland.

5 From: Rocking4Epilepsy
Date: Wed, Feb 8 2006 12:01 pm
Email: "Rocking4Epilepsy" <>
Groups: alt.support.epilepsy

You also may find all your first aid and safety precautions on our
site
below
http://dannyjr.proboards44.com/index.cgi

6 From: polaris
Date: Thurs, Feb 2 2006 2:54 pm
Email: polaris <>
Groups: alt.support.epilepsy

BrainTalk looks very good. (listed above at #2 )
Thanks for the suggestion.

7 From: guitarmom
Date: Thurs, Feb 9 2006 8:37 am
Email: "guitarmom" <>
Groups: alt.support.epilepsy

Another great site that I have found is
http://www.epilepsy.ca/eng/mainSet.html

if you go to the opening page where it has English or French it does
have a flickering candle. This page does not have it.
There is a great deal of information here, well done and easy to
maneuver.

Basic facts, myth busters, info for children, teens and adults,
research, safety, coping!
Hope this helps someone.
Gin
********* There, some light reading !! I hope is ~up to date for a
while... /G./


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From: Sofia <pinkmonster2000REM...@ALLCAPSyahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 18:52:18 +0100
Local: Wed, Sep 9 2009 3:52 am
Subject: Re: PARTIAL COMPLEX
On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 07:50:18 -0700 (PDT)

"G." <gar...@rogers.com> wrote:

.   The Aura can tell the

> Doctor where the seizure focus is of those 2 types.   If the sensation
> is a feeling of Deja Vu, a false taste or aroma that's Sour or Lemony,
> then the szr. Focus is in the Right Temporal Lobe.   If the sensations
> is a Jamais Vu  (where your own place can feel like you've wandered
> into a stranger's house), sometimes with an Acrid or Eggy taste or
> aroma, the Seizure Focus is in the Left Temporal Lobe ?

It's strange that there are so many "aura" type of seizures, I've had
so many different types of seizures throughout my life including
absences, complex partials, tonics, tonic-clonics and nocturnal
seizures, but I've never had a seizure with an aura or a sign of any
kind!!

I've never actually heard of a Deja Vu type aura, or a Jamais Vu
aura because It wasn't necessary for me to know I suppose, but as you
were saying that your seizures began on the right side of your temporal
lobe, I suppose you used to get the sour or lemony aroma just before
they happened... I perhaps just wake up somewhere on the floor, all wet,
with the entire place torn apart , and hope you found somewhere
to sit down or get out of the way of any danger before your seizures
actually occurred!  

All the best

Sofie
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From: AikenRa...@webtv.net (George H)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 19:47:12 -0400
Local: Tues, Sep 15 2009 9:47 am
Subject: Re: PARTIAL COMPLEX
Thank you Sofie, its good to have a friend who understands....

Its not the size of the dog in a fight.... But the size of the fight in
a dog...


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