My alcoholic friend recently told me that one of her AA friends wrecked her car and fell off the wagon after 32 years! Would that be a record for greatest period of time between two binges?
<tsbru...@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote: >My alcoholic friend recently told me that one of her AA friends wrecked >her car and fell off the wagon after 32 years! Would that be a record >for greatest period of time between two binges?
Fellow had 36 years sober ....wife of 50 years...died....he got fucked up!
Tex wrote: > On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 10:33:45 -0700, Tim Bruening > <tsbru...@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
>> My alcoholic friend recently told me that one of her AA >> friends wrecked her car and fell off the wagon after 32 >> years! Would that be a record for greatest period of >> time between two binges?
> Fellow had 36 years sober ....wife of 50 > years...died....he got fucked up!
Jack wrote: > Tex wrote: >> On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 10:33:45 -0700, Tim Bruening >> <tsbru...@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
>>> My alcoholic friend recently told me that one of her AA >>> friends wrecked her car and fell off the wagon after 32 >>> years! Would that be a record for greatest period of >>> time between two binges? >> Fellow had 36 years sober ....wife of 50 >> years...died....he got fucked up!
> I don't see anything wrong with that.
IMHO it is about the surest way for an alcoholic to make a bad situation worse.
At least that's one of the things I've tried very hard to remember for the past twenty months.
On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:41:45 -0400, "Jack" <furgfurgf...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Tex wrote: >> On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 10:33:45 -0700, Tim Bruening >> <tsbru...@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
>>> My alcoholic friend recently told me that one of her AA >>> friends wrecked her car and fell off the wagon after 32 >>> years! Would that be a record for greatest period of >>> time between two binges?
>> Fellow had 36 years sober ....wife of 50 >> years...died....he got fucked up!
JoeRaisin wrote: > Jack wrote: >> Tex wrote: >>> On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 10:33:45 -0700, Tim Bruening >>> <tsbru...@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
>>>> My alcoholic friend recently told me that one of her AA >>>> friends wrecked her car and fell off the wagon after 32 >>>> years! Would that be a record for greatest period of >>>> time between two binges? >>> Fellow had 36 years sober ....wife of 50 >>> years...died....he got fucked up!
>> I don't see anything wrong with that.
> IMHO it is about the surest way for an alcoholic to make a bad situation > worse.
> At least that's one of the things I've tried very hard to remember for > the past twenty months.
My experience as well. I would have both feet in a pile of shit. So I would decide to put one of my feet into another pile of shit. I was soon having to find a way out of two piles of shit.
Jack wrote: > Tex wrote: >> On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 10:33:45 -0700, Tim Bruening >> <tsbru...@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
>>> My alcoholic friend recently told me that one of her AA >>> friends wrecked her car and fell off the wagon after 32 >>> years! Would that be a record for greatest period of >>> time between two binges?
>> Fellow had 36 years sober ....wife of 50 >> years...died....he got fucked up!
> I don't see anything wrong with that.
Ah Christ. It is not encouraging to realize that after 32 YEARS I still may not be done with this beast.
>Jack wrote: >> Tex wrote: >>> On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 10:33:45 -0700, Tim Bruening >>> <tsbru...@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
>>>> My alcoholic friend recently told me that one of her AA >>>> friends wrecked her car and fell off the wagon after 32 >>>> years! Would that be a record for greatest period of >>>> time between two binges?
>>> Fellow had 36 years sober ....wife of 50 >>> years...died....he got fucked up!
>> I don't see anything wrong with that.
>Ah Christ. It is not encouraging to realize that after 32 YEARS I still may >not be done with this beast.
There's only one way to really beat the beast....die. :)
Tex wrote: > On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 16:48:19 -0500, "Stephanie" <h...@noway.net> > wrote:
>> Jack wrote: >>> Tex wrote: >>>> On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 10:33:45 -0700, Tim Bruening >>>> <tsbru...@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
>>>>> My alcoholic friend recently told me that one of her AA >>>>> friends wrecked her car and fell off the wagon after 32 >>>>> years! Would that be a record for greatest period of >>>>> time between two binges? >>>> Fellow had 36 years sober ....wife of 50 >>>> years...died....he got fucked up! >>> I don't see anything wrong with that.
>> Ah Christ. It is not encouraging to realize that after 32 YEARS I still may >> not be done with this beast.
> There's only one way to really beat the beast....die. :)
> Jack wrote: >> Tex wrote: >>> On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 10:33:45 -0700, Tim Bruening >>> <tsbru...@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
>>>> My alcoholic friend recently told me that one of her AA >>>> friends wrecked her car and fell off the wagon after 32 >>>> years! Would that be a record for greatest period of >>>> time between two binges?
>>> Fellow had 36 years sober ....wife of 50 >>> years...died....he got fucked up!
>> I don't see anything wrong with that.
> Ah Christ. It is not encouraging to realize that after 32 YEARS I still may > not be done with this beast.
Ah yes, but it's optional now. And what happens to someone else happens to someone else. Not eveything you hear about alcohol is necessarily true. I know a guy who is 83 years old. He has been drinking daily for at least 50 years, probably more. He defies the AA stereotypes. His wife is gone (she drank with him until she passed at age 80) and he lives in a nice home, travels, and drinks a lot. Of course we could say that hes not a 'real' alcoholic, but no, he's one that just doesn't apparently need to sober up.
Gary wrote: > On 2008-11-14 15:48:19 -0600, "Stephanie" <h...@noway.net> said:
>> Jack wrote: >>> Tex wrote: >>>> On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 10:33:45 -0700, Tim Bruening >>>> <tsbru...@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
>>>>> My alcoholic friend recently told me that one of her AA >>>>> friends wrecked her car and fell off the wagon after 32 >>>>> years! Would that be a record for greatest period of >>>>> time between two binges?
>>>> Fellow had 36 years sober ....wife of 50 >>>> years...died....he got fucked up!
>>> I don't see anything wrong with that.
>> Ah Christ. It is not encouraging to realize that after 32 YEARS I >> still may not be done with this beast.
> Ah yes, but it's optional now. And what happens to someone else > happens to someone else. > Not eveything you hear about alcohol is necessarily true. I know a > guy who is 83 years old. He has been drinking daily for at least 50 > years, probably more. He defies the AA stereotypes. His wife > is gone (she drank with him until she passed at age 80) and he lives > in a nice home, travels, > and drinks a lot. Of course we could say that hes not a 'real' > alcoholic, but no, he's one that just doesn't apparently need to sober > up.
> Gary
Anyone who makes it to 83 years old can do as they damned well please.
>>>Ah Christ. It is not encouraging to realize that after 32 YEARS I >>>still may >>not be done with this beast. > There's only one way to really beat the beast....die. :)
Real, natured or nurtured, If I could only drink without hangovers and guilt trips i reckon I'd still be drinking today.
Goodammit I'd drink tomorrow if I could get away with it. but sure whats the use. I'd have to sell my car, get rid of my material things and sart to hang my head in shame again.
Nahh, I love my hobbies, my comforts and my growing 'feck-off' bank account :-))
>>>>My alcoholic friend recently told me that one of her AA >>>>friends wrecked her car and fell off the wagon after 32 >>>>years! Would that be a record for greatest period of >>>>time between two binges?
>>>Fellow had 36 years sober ....wife of 50 >>>years...died....he got fucked up!
>>I don't see anything wrong with that.
> Ah Christ. It is not encouraging to realize that after 32 YEARS I still may > not be done with this beast.
> My alcoholic friend recently told me that one of her AA friends > wrecked her car and fell off the wagon after 32 years! Would that be > a record for greatest period of time between two binges?
No real alcoholic is ever immune from taking the next drink. What we have is a daily reprieve contingent upon the maintenance of our spititual condition. Surely you've heard that line before!
The reality is that God has given me the grace to not drink each day since I decided to turn my will and my life over to Him. The moment I take that commitment back I am on my own again, trying to use my own will power to manage my life.
No matter how long one has been sober they are only one drink away from being a wreck again if they are not dependent upon God to help them get through their daily lives. Unfortunately the longer we stay sober the harder it becomes to remember the pain and humiliation we suffered in our last days of drinking. That is why regular meetings, service work, home group, sponsor/sponsee, and above all a constant attempt to keep God forefront in my recovery process has helped me to not take a drink of alcohol since I had my first spiritual experience.
>> My alcoholic friend recently told me that one of her AA friends >> wrecked her car and fell off the wagon after 32 years! Would that be >> a record for greatest period of time between two binges?
> No real alcoholic is ever immune from taking the next drink. What we > have is a daily reprieve contingent upon the maintenance of our > spititual condition. Surely you've heard that line before!
> The reality is that God has given me the grace to not drink each day > since I decided to turn my will and my life over to Him. The moment I > take that commitment back I am on my own again, trying to use my own > will power to manage my life.
Well feck it, for a minute there I thought you said that Goz gave you the grace :-))
I wonder what the hell that person was doing on the wagon, was she standing when she shoulda been sitting, hey maybe she had a little wine before she stood up. Youre very funny people over there, driving a wagon for 32 years seems strange - maybe shes Amish, but they don't drink.
wolderm...@none.com wrote: > Just like with everything, people are all different. I know a guy who > was an alcoholic in his 20s. He stayed completely off alcohol for > about 20 years after. Then one day after he lost a loved one and had > a few drinks (he said to releive the pain). Since that day he has > been drinking, but he said he only drinks about once a month and never > drinks enough to get drunk. I know him well, and I never see him > drunk, so I know he is being honest. I even tried to discourage him > from it, but he said he is fine with it now, and old enough to know > when he has had enough. (he's almost 60 years old now). He has a > limit of 3 drinks or something like that. He has not been to an AA > meeting in years either. He told me that AA is a great program, but > he don't need it anymore. I guess some can, and others can not go > back to drinking.
Amazing! I had understood that any alcoholic who drinks even a little is doomed to go on an uncontrollable drinking binge!
>> Just like with everything, people are all different. I know a guy who >> was an alcoholic in his 20s. He stayed completely off alcohol for >> about 20 years after. Then one day after he lost a loved one and had >> a few drinks (he said to releive the pain). Since that day he has >> been drinking, but he said he only drinks about once a month and never >> drinks enough to get drunk. I know him well, and I never see him >> drunk, so I know he is being honest. I even tried to discourage him >> from it, but he said he is fine with it now, and old enough to know >> when he has had enough. (he's almost 60 years old now). He has a >> limit of 3 drinks or something like that. He has not been to an AA >> meeting in years either. He told me that AA is a great program, but >> he don't need it anymore. I guess some can, and others can not go >> back to drinking.
> Amazing! I had understood that any alcoholic who drinks even a little is > doomed > to go on an uncontrollable drinking binge!
Nope, just that there is no predicting. In my case it is MUCH more likely that now however. Really is easier to stay sober knowing this.
the problem is that there is no clear definition of "alcoholic". Perhaps he was called one years ago and worked his way thru AA, but now he knows what he's doing.
"Tim Bruening" <tsbru...@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote in message
>> Just like with everything, people are all different. I know a guy who >> was an alcoholic in his 20s. He stayed completely off alcohol for >> about 20 years after. Then one day after he lost a loved one and had >> a few drinks (he said to releive the pain). Since that day he has >> been drinking, but he said he only drinks about once a month and never >> drinks enough to get drunk. I know him well, and I never see him >> drunk, so I know he is being honest. I even tried to discourage him >> from it, but he said he is fine with it now, and old enough to know >> when he has had enough. (he's almost 60 years old now). He has a >> limit of 3 drinks or something like that. He has not been to an AA >> meeting in years either. He told me that AA is a great program, but >> he don't need it anymore. I guess some can, and others can not go >> back to drinking.
> Amazing! I had understood that any alcoholic who drinks even a little is > doomed > to go on an uncontrollable drinking binge!
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